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MaXimus
03-29-2014, 03:39 PM
Contacted support and they can't help

I posted in the thread of that damn add-on and the developer seems to be dead

I need to get rid of this ASAP!!

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I upgraded to vB4 so vMail caused the user registration page to be misaligned

I contacted suport and they advised me to uninstall vMail is it is not compatible with vB4

So when I tried to uninstall it I got this message:

Remove Table : nlp_vmail

I searched in the templates for it and I found 4 entires but I don't know how to remove it

please guide meh

thanks

kh99
03-29-2014, 04:03 PM
I'd guess that it's talking about a database table. If the error message is that the table doesn't exist, then you could try creating a database table (using phpMyAdmin for example) and then run uninstall again.

blind-eddie
03-29-2014, 04:04 PM
Table : nlp_vmail in a data base table, remove it via cpanel, phpmyadmin.
I am sure someone will post how to run a query to remove it.

MaXimus
03-29-2014, 04:38 PM
Table : nlp_vmail in a data base table, remove it via cpanel, phpmyadmin.
I am sure someone will post how to run a query to remove it.

crap! never had to do such thing installing a simple plugin! I will never install any mods anymore! now I have to reinvent the wheel to remove a line of code!

ForceHSS
03-29-2014, 04:46 PM
DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `nlp_vmail`;

Max Taxable
03-29-2014, 05:55 PM
crap! never had to do such thing installing a simple plugin! I will never install any mods anymore! now I have to reinvent the wheel to remove a line of code!Pay attention to the first post of any Mod.... If it says "DB Changes" you know it's likely to add tables to your DB.

Don't avoid Mods, just choose them more carefully.I upgraded to vB4^^ Might should have thought about this a tad more. (http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/1367-The-quot-need-to-upgrade-quot-myth-busted)

kh99
03-29-2014, 06:54 PM
Matrix Leader didn't say if the problem has been solved, but looking at the uninstall code for that mod, the "Remove Table : nlp_vmail" is a message displayed to say what's being done, not instructions asking you to remove the table yourself. But db errors are turned off, so it seems like if the table didn't exist (like I was thinking), then it shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe the only problem was that the message was confusing?

MaXimus
03-29-2014, 10:45 PM
Matrix Leader didn't say if the problem has been solved, but looking at the uninstall code for that mod, the "Remove Table : nlp_vmail" is a message displayed to say what's being done, not instructions asking you to remove the table yourself. But db errors are turned off, so it seems like if the table didn't exist (like I was thinking), then it shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe the only problem was that the message was confusing?

no I am downgrading back to Vb3 by restoring a backup.

RichieBoy67
03-30-2014, 03:30 AM
no I am downgrading back to Vb3 by restoring a backup.
I do not think this is a big deal to fix at all. What happened after you ran DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `nlp_vmail`; ??

When you upgrade versions like that you really need to remove plug ins that are not compatible.

If you decide to keep Vb4 let me know this week and I will help you fix the error, no charge.

MaXimus
03-30-2014, 07:34 AM
I do not think this is a big deal to fix at all. What happened after you ran DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `nlp_vmail`; ??

When you upgrade versions like that you really need to remove plug ins that are not compatible.

If you decide to keep Vb4 let me know this week and I will help you fix the error, no charge.

thanks a lot! there are some really helpful people on these forums!

I downgraded back, now i am gonna remove that plugin

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Strange, when I uninstalled it while I am on my vB3 forum, it didn't give me that error

but anyway, I'm glad its gone! I don't need to plugins that modify my database in such a way

Zachery
03-30-2014, 08:03 AM
thanks a lot! there are some really helpful people on these forums!

I downgraded back, now i am gonna remove that plugin

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Strange, when I uninstalled it while I am on my vB3 forum, it didn't give me that error

but anyway, I'm glad its gone! I don't need to plugins that modify my database in such a way
Because vBulletin 3 and 4 are completely different in some respects. The uninstaller was likely only designed to work on 3, and not 4. So you're trying to run install code for 3 which isn't compatible with 4.

Normally, removing the plugin/product from the AdminCP is enough. Unless the extra data in the database is really going to bother you. It won't do anything once the code to use it is removed.

RichieBoy67
03-30-2014, 10:32 AM
thanks a lot! there are some really helpful people on these forums!

I downgraded back, now i am gonna remove that plugin

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Strange, when I uninstalled it while I am on my vB3 forum, it didn't give me that error

but anyway, I'm glad its gone! I don't need to plugins that modify my database in such a way

Now that you uninstalled it you should be able to upgrade without issue. I would remove any mod though that is not going to work in the newer version. Most have updated versions for 4 anyhow.

MaXimus
03-30-2014, 02:42 PM
Now that you uninstalled it you should be able to upgrade without issue. I would remove any mod though that is not going to work in the newer version. Most have updated versions for 4 anyhow.

thanks chief, after reading the above post made by Max Table ( http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/1367-The-quot-need-to-upgrade-quot-myth-busted )

I am not going to upgrade since a lot of the big forums are still using vB3 including this very site

the only reason I upgraded was I got tired of having posts to moderate when I disabled post moderation and played around a bit in the permissions but couldn't find anything that states having to be moderated :(

I am a n00bie and I wish Lynn or someone can help me via teamviewer where she can take control of my mouse and login as admin to see what the duck is going on :(

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease help meh I'm small

Max Taxable
03-30-2014, 03:04 PM
thanks chief, after reading the above post made by Max Table ( http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/1367-The-quot-need-to-upgrade-quot-myth-busted )

I am not going to upgrade since a lot of the big forums are still using vB3 including this very siteI don't try to discourage people from upgrading, I merely try to get them to give it some real thought first. Plugins and Mods no longer compatible and custom templates and edits lost are just one part of the discussion. Trouble is, too many people never give it a thought and just jump in with both feet, then regret it.

RichieBoy67
03-30-2014, 05:00 PM
thanks chief, after reading the above post made by Max Table ( http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/1367-The-quot-need-to-upgrade-quot-myth-busted )

I am not going to upgrade since a lot of the big forums are still using vB3 including this very site

the only reason I upgraded was I got tired of having posts to moderate when I disabled post moderation and played around a bit in the permissions but couldn't find anything that states having to be moderated :(

I am a n00bie and I wish Lynn or someone can help me via teamviewer where she can take control of my mouse and login as admin to see what the duck is going on :(

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease help meh I'm small

Many "big forums" have also upgraded to Vb4##.. If your only reason though has to do with moderation features than I would not bother though there are many, many additional features.

It is a big change to move from the older versions and it takes some getting used to but change is not always a bad thing. :D

What do you need help with now? You are back to your original site? Right?

Most devs here would rather log in to your site directly and not mess about in Teamviewer.

ForceHSS
03-30-2014, 07:03 PM
thanks chief, after reading the above post made by Max Table ( http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/1367-The-quot-need-to-upgrade-quot-myth-busted )

I am not going to upgrade since a lot of the big forums are still using vB3 including this very site

the only reason I upgraded was I got tired of having posts to moderate when I disabled post moderation and played around a bit in the permissions but couldn't find anything that states having to be moderated :(

I am a n00bie and I wish Lynn or someone can help me via teamviewer where she can take control of my mouse and login as admin to see what the duck is going on :(

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease help meh I'm small
No one is going to login to your site using teamviewer if you have trust issues make a temp admin for them

TheLastSuperman
03-30-2014, 07:19 PM
No one is going to login to your site using teamviewer if you have trust issues make a temp admin for them

Teamviewer is more like Remote Desktop. I suspect the reason he mentioned that is, he is like may out there and if he sees this in action he would then remember and could do it again himself.

What many fail to realize is, without a basic understanding of something despite seeing a video... not everything you can do via phpmyadmin is safe i.e. one simple mistake or wrong wording of a query can leave you in worse shape than you started off in. So you start off small and work your way up until you feel comfortable working within phpmyadmin :cool:.

ForceHSS
03-30-2014, 07:23 PM
I use skype and I can share my screen so he can see what is being done have done this with many

katie hunter
03-30-2014, 08:12 PM
I've had a similar issue in the past with the donation plugin that use to be on here http://www.forumcoding.com/re-install-auto-removal-software-security/

So when i upgraded from vb 3.7.x to vb 4.2.x, i faced similar issues with tables being dropped and i had a Database error which prevented me from accessing the forum, when i tried to get rid of the plugin, i couldn't it uninstall it because of a missing table.

What i did is that i disabled hook through config.php by adding this line in the beginning

define('DISABLE_HOOKS', 1);

or you can disable it via admin cp if you can access it. Admin CP -> vBulletin Options -> Plugin/Hook System -> Enable Plugin/Hook System

Once i disabled the hook, i could access the forum without seeing the database error. I uninstall the plugin, or i think i reinstall it then i uninstall it, and that got rid of the plugin's table without needing to restore a back up.

MaXimus
03-30-2014, 08:13 PM
Well someone PM me and I will make them in Admin account to do this

my issue is, I have disabled new member moderation and post moderation

sometimes, when I check the moderation que, I find many posts there awaiting moderation

so I would appreciate if one of you Pros would login and look around to see what I am doing wrong

thanks a lot

The volunteer will be granted a 2 year license for avast Pro Antivirus that I don't use since I switched to NOD32

katie hunter
03-30-2014, 08:16 PM
Well someone PM me and I will make them in Admin account to do this

my issue is, I have disabled new member moderation and post moderation

sometimes, when I check the moderation que, I find many posts there awaiting moderation

so I would appreciate if one of you Pros would login and look around to see what I am doing wrong

thanks a lot

The volunteer will be granted a 2 year license for avast Pro Antivirus that I don't use since I switched to NOD32

Are you still having the same issue that you can't get rid of the plugin/mod tables ? Are you getting any db errors ?

You can disable the plugin hook via config.php and then reinstall the mod and then uninstall it. But take a backup just in case before doing this.

This should fix the issue, go to your config.php file and add this line

define('DISABLE_HOOKS', 1);

Here is how.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-3-8/vbulletin-3-8-questions-problems-and-troubleshooting/vbulletin-quick-tips-and-customizations/201532-disable-the-plugin-hook-system-globally

Disable your plugins then reinstall that mod and uninstall it later. Then when everything is run perfectly, delete that line from your config file to enable your plugins back.

MaXimus
03-30-2014, 08:26 PM
Are you still having the same issue that you can't get rid of the plugin/mod tables ? Are you getting any db errors ?

You can disable the plugin hook via config.php and then reinstall the mod and then uninstall it. But take a backup just in case before doing this.

This should fix the issue, go to your config.php file and add this line

define('DISABLE_HOOKS', 1);

Here is how.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-3-8/vbulletin-3-8-questions-problems-and-troubleshooting/vbulletin-quick-tips-and-customizations/201532-disable-the-plugin-hook-system-globally

Disable your plugins then reinstall that mod and uninstall it later. Then when everything is run perfectly, delete that line from your config file to enable your plugins back.

thanks a lot for the detailed reply katie, as I said earlier, once I downgraded back to vB3 by restoring a backup I took prior to upgrading to vB4, the plugin uninstalled properly without doing any extra steps

MaXimus
04-01-2014, 05:42 PM
noone gonna voluteer to help meh?

RichieBoy67
04-01-2014, 06:03 PM
What is the problem? I thought you down graded and were set?

MaXimus
04-03-2014, 08:07 AM
What is the problem? I thought you down graded and were set?

No the whole reason I upgraded ws to maybe get rid of this bug!

but when I saw the upgrade didn't go well and in addition, it made my forum slower, I downgraded.

I still need someone to take a look at my settings

RichieBoy67
04-03-2014, 09:27 AM
What bug?

If you want to pm me your admin log in details I will take a look.

MaXimus
04-04-2014, 11:30 AM
What bug?

If you want to pm me your admin log in details I will take a look.

PM sent with admin login details

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What bug?

If you want to pm me your admin log in details I will take a look.

Thanks to RichieBoy, he logged in to my forums and find out the problem, it was the GlowHost - Spam-O-Matic plug-in

he did the investigation for free and I am really thankful for that

there are some really helpful members on this forum

RichieBoy67
04-04-2014, 04:26 PM
No big deal. It only took a few minutes. :)