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DreadsUK
03-19-2014, 09:11 PM
Just saw this website and i want mine like that.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/

Can anyone tell me how i'd do this.

At the top is a scrolling clickable image
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/03/33.png

Is it a custom widget or is it something built in that i can do?

Also, this for us would be 'find your ideal dreadlocking method'
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/03/34.png

And this, the registration widget would be great
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/03/35.png

Also, just the general style and feel in terms of the layout fonts and everythings is really smooth.

Any help, info, tips very much appreciated!!

Elite_360_
03-19-2014, 10:31 PM
The stuff you are asking is not a vbulletin forum they use vbulletin for their forum but their main site could be Joomla, WordPress or Drupal.

Max Taxable
03-19-2014, 10:51 PM
And it is almost 2 MEGAbytes of pageload.... and loads slow.

Here's the breakdown. (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140319_EV_11RC/)

ozzy47
03-19-2014, 11:26 PM
Yeah that all just looks like fluff, that will not do nothing for the site overall, best to have good content. :) But I bet you can do the first image thing with this mod, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=277166

ForceHSS
03-19-2014, 11:33 PM
And it is almost 2 MEGAbytes of pageload.... and loads slow.

Here's the breakdown. (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140319_EV_11RC/)

loads very fast for me

Max Taxable
03-19-2014, 11:44 PM
loads very fast for meCaching.

5.4 seconds on a fast cable connection using IE 11 is slow.

ForceHSS
03-20-2014, 12:05 AM
Caching.

5.4 seconds on a fast cable connection using IE 11 is slow.

Does not take that long to load for me more like 2 sec's​ or a bit less in Firefox or IE this is on a 16mb line

Max Taxable
03-20-2014, 01:15 AM
Does not take that long to load for me more like 2 sec's​ or a bit less in Firefox or IE this is on a 16mb lineYou can run the test on several browsers, several connections. None of them cache pages so, what you get there is real and objective, not subjective. If it says 5.4 seconds it is 5.4 seconds, for that browser and that connection, at that time. The speed might vary a little for different times.

It's a 2mb page. That doesn't vary. It is bloated.

TheLastSuperman
03-20-2014, 01:28 AM
Just saw this website and i want mine like that.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/

Can anyone tell me how i'd do this.

At the top is a scrolling clickable image
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/03/33.png

Is it a custom widget or is it something built in that i can do?

Also, this for us would be 'find your ideal dreadlocking method'
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/03/34.png

And this, the registration widget would be great
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/03/35.png

Also, just the general style and feel in terms of the layout fonts and everythings is really smooth.

Any help, info, tips very much appreciated!!

The stuff you are asking is not a vbulletin forum they use vbulletin for their forum but their main site could be Joomla, WordPress or Drupal.

Worry about page load times later for your own site the folks at BodyBuilding.com can worry about theirs :p. For now lets get back on topic which is summed up with "How do I make my site look like that, it's awesome" pretty much ;). I believe Elite is correct they use something else to power the main site, you can just tell it's not vBulletin then view the source code to confirm. So this is one of those times you say, am I using the right thing for my front-end? If you feel a change is in order then looking into different CMS systems may be what you should do.

Can you make a vBulletin style resemble their site? Yes but it would take some work.
Can you create widgets or forum sidebar blocks for login to use on your forum like on their cms system? Yes but again a little work involved or not, I believe there are free template mods and such on here showing you how to do that if I recall correctly.

DreadsUK
03-20-2014, 01:57 AM
I believe Elite is correct they use something else to power the main site, you can just tell it's not vBulletin then view the source code to confirm. So this is one of those times you say, am I using the right thing for my front-end? If you feel a change is in order then looking into different CMS systems may be what you should do.

Can you make a vBulletin style resemble their site? Yes but it would take some work.
Can you create widgets or forum sidebar blocks for login to use on your forum like on their cms system? Yes but again a little work involved or not, I believe there are free template mods and such on here showing you how to do that if I recall correctly.


had a look at the source code but couldn't pin point the exact site.

I have had a look at a couple of other CMS platforms to do this. Its now a case of working out which its going to be the most cost effective and best results to weight it up.

its getting a bit overwhelming tonight, so im gonna sleep on it now. Been playing around with vB CMS.

expect i'll have to find some developer who can give a quote at some point for all the different mods/style changes to make it do those things. urrg... bed time

TheLastSuperman
03-20-2014, 02:07 AM
expect i'll have to find some developer who can give a quote at some point for all the different mods/style changes to make it do those things. urrg... bed time

I would simply "piece" it out and post in the unpaid forum request area OR in the respective forum so for example you could post a new thread asking in design or programming discussions for vB4 on how to do the login in a widget (if using the vB CMS) or sidebar block as well and see the replies some members may also post links to known mods.

This way you get free help from members who have time before you "pay" for something thereby saving you money and the helpful replies may save you frustration as well i.e. no need to track it down yourself if you can simply ask and someone be nice and reply back accordingly ;).

ozzy47
03-20-2014, 02:08 AM
For a CMS, you may want to check out, vBadvanced CMPS (http://www.vbadvanced.com/products.php?do=productinfo&productid=4)

Max Taxable
03-20-2014, 02:11 AM
Worry about page load times later for your own site the folks at BodyBuilding.com can worry about theirs My note was merely cautionary to the OP, since the OP wants to emulate the bloat, on his own site.:D

It's always a war between form and function if you have a site, annit?

TheLastSuperman
03-20-2014, 02:30 AM
My note was merely cautionary to the OP, since the OP wants to emulate the bloat, on his own site.:D

It's always a war between form and function if you have a site, annit?

Ahh copy that now and that it is, then sometimes stubborn forum owners who do not head warnings end up getting exactly what they wanted. We did warn them though to be fair ;).

Max Taxable
03-20-2014, 02:36 AM
Ahh copy that now and that it is, then sometimes stubborn forum owners who do not head warnings end up getting exactly what they wanted. We did warn them though to be fair ;).That's all I try to do my friend.:up:

RichieBoy67
03-20-2014, 05:14 AM
I am not sure why you would want to copy another site. Sure it is fine to get ideas but why would anyone go to a clone of a site worth millions when they can just go the real thing? Just saying...

Better off being original...

In terms of load times, BBD is the biggest bb forum in the world. They sponsor major events world wide, make videos, have writers, reports, the whole thing. If thier pages take time to load then people are willing to wait which is unfortunate to others(me) who own bb forums. Also, I am sure they have major servers all over the world to help with thier bloat. I do not think the op has the resources to cope with the bloat like bbd.

DreadsUK
03-20-2014, 02:45 PM
I am not sure why you would want to copy another site. Sure it is fine to get ideas but why would anyone go to a clone of a site worth millions when they can just go the real thing? Just saying...


i agree, but my site if for dreadlocks not body building. The intension is to build the features and tailor them for dreadlocks developement

Max Taxable
03-20-2014, 03:20 PM
I am not sure why you would want to copy another site. Sure it is fine to get ideas but why would anyone go to a clone of a site worth millions when they can just go the real thing? Just saying...

Better off being original...

In terms of load times, BBD is the biggest bb forum in the world. They sponsor major events world wide, make videos, have writers, reports, the whole thing. If thier pages take time to load then people are willing to wait which is unfortunate to others(me) who own bb forums. Also, I am sure they have major servers all over the world to help with thier bloat. I do not think the op has the resources to cope with the bloat like bbd.People WILL tolerate alot for a site with the right niche. Slow loading, bloat, adverts, even spam. Plus there's always the herd mentality, the sheep factor. Plus once a site is designated a authority by google and other search sites, it definitely gets the traffic. Snowball effect.

It doesn't change the fact that they have alot of optimization work to do and that it is proven, slow loading does hurt the bottom line. Article on that here. (http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/2400-We-might-soon-need-Michelle-Obama-to-start-working-on-website-obesity)

Here's their vBulletin installation test (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140320_EY_MCC/) by the way, it's a 4.1.4 and it is terrible - not for glut, but for loading. Three test attempts and never could get it to not time out, using IE 11.

Here's same test using Firefox. (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140320_BZ_MKW/) Clearly IE 11 doesn't like the site nearly as much. A problem they'll need to address.

To the OP - Richie has a great point about being a "me too" or a copycat. You most especially don't want to copy the bloat! :D

DreadsUK
03-20-2014, 03:55 PM
You most especially don't want to copy the bloat! :D

certainly not :p

just trying to achieve my vision and getting inspired. Its early days for us. Still gathering information and researching possibilities. :)

Digital Jedi
03-20-2014, 08:31 PM
I am not sure why you would want to copy another site. Sure it is fine to get ideas but why would anyone go to a clone of a site worth millions when they can just go the real thing? Just saying...
Er, isn't this kind of an ironic thing to say on site where all use the exact same forum script?

DreadsUK
03-20-2014, 10:43 PM
Er, isn't this kind of an ironic thing to say on site where all use the exact same forum script?

lol, guess it is :p

RichieBoy67
03-20-2014, 10:47 PM
Er, isn't this kind of an ironic thing to say on site where all use the exact same forum script?



Not at all. Using the same forum script is much different than copying a site. Don't you think?

At any rate, I don't think the op was looking to clone the site anyways. I think he just wanted to use some aspects which is cool. At first glance though from the title it appeared the idea was to "do my site like this". lol

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People WILL tolerate alot for a site with the right niche. Slow loading, bloat, adverts, even spam. Plus there's always the herd mentality, the sheep factor. Plus once a site is designated a authority by google and other search sites, it definitely gets the traffic. Snowball effect.

It doesn't change the fact that they have alot of optimization work to do and that it is proven, slow loading does hurt the bottom line. Article on that here. (http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/2400-We-might-soon-need-Michelle-Obama-to-start-working-on-website-obesity)

Here's their vBulletin installation test (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140320_EY_MCC/) by the way, it's a 4.1.4 and it is terrible - not for glut, but for loading. Three test attempts and never could get it to not time out, using IE 11.

Here's same test using Firefox. (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140320_BZ_MKW/) Clearly IE 11 doesn't like the site nearly as much. A problem they'll need to address.

To the OP - Richie has a great point about being a "me too" or a copycat. You most especially don't want to copy the bloat! :D


Honestly I visit that site almost on a daily basis and I really never noticed any loading time issues. It always seems fairly quick to me but then again I am not running a test on it, just going to the site. :)

I agree about not copying the bloat because most average hosts or servers would probably not handle it so well.

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i agree, but my site if for dreadlocks not body building. The intension is to build the features and tailor them for dreadlocks developement

You never know! You just could turn out to be the BB.com of dreadlocks! Now that would be cool! :D

DreadsUK
03-22-2014, 01:36 AM
You never know! You just could turn out to be the BB.com of dreadlocks! Now that would be cool! :D

Working on it ;)

Max Taxable
03-22-2014, 01:51 AM
Honestly I visit that site almost on a daily basis and I really never noticed any loading time issues. It always seems fairly quick to me but then again I am not running a test on it, just going to the site. Right and, your browser caching it is why what we see when we load a site on our computers is subjective. It's "fast" because you have alot of its elements cached.:D

DreadsUK
03-22-2014, 01:53 AM
Right and, your browser caching it is why what we see when we load a site on our computers is subjective. It's "fast" because you have alot of its elements cached.:D

oh crap, that means my site must be really flippin slow to people on it for the first time! There would be no way of me knowing

Max Taxable
03-22-2014, 01:57 AM
oh crap, that means my site must be really flippin slow to people on it for the first time! There would be no way of me knowingThat is what WebPagetest (http://www.webpagetest.org/)is for.

Ozzy's helping you with optimization as we type, correct? That's the tool he is using.

DreadsUK
03-22-2014, 02:05 AM
That is what WebPagetest (http://www.webpagetest.org/)is for.

Ozzy's helping you with optimization as we type, correct? That's the tool he is using.

yea, im just wondering how long its been so bad for :p

Max Taxable
03-22-2014, 02:06 AM
yea, im just wondering how long its been so bad for :pTake heart, it's not as bad as alot we've seen.

Digital Jedi
03-22-2014, 06:23 AM
Not at all. Using the same forum script is much different than copying a site. Don't you think?
My point is, "copying" something we see on someone else's site is pretty much what we did the first time we saw someone using vBulletin and decided to get one of our own.

cellarius
03-24-2014, 09:40 AM
oh crap, that means my site must be really flippin slow to people on it for the first time! There would be no way of me knowing
As a webmaster, I'm sure you have installed more than one browser for testing purposes. While you probably use one on a day to day basis, use another one for testing such stuff. Make sure you clear the cache before doing speed tests.