Dont Buy VBSEO

[Yucar]

if u are going to buy vBseo dont buy it. When you pay the money they doesnt send you download link or instructions and they never reply your tickets,mails etc. I'm going to take legal action against Crawlability. There is too many ppl like me at vbseo forums.

[Yucar]

!bump

[Krusty1231]

That's some nice work there Lou. Why not complain over at VBSEO forums where it might actually make a difference.

Good luck!

[ideguru]

until now?

[New Joe]

I love VBSEO

[Yucar]

i share it here coz its biggest vbulletin forum here so i can prevent others get ....ed. I make an thread in vbseo forums. and no one answers.

[ar15dcm]

I have it and love it. They always respond to my inquiries... and I paid for them to install it. It was installed within 2 days. No complaints here about VBSEO.

[theoutlawed]

The support as of late has taken a pretty big hit. I've got a ticket in for a week now still waiting to get any kind of reply. People making purchases getting the CC $ taken out but hearing nothing from the company. A couple threads open on the topic and staff stonewalling the threads.

I've used it for years, and needed to make a change after a server move. The natives on the forums restless missing features so I just removed it entirely and decided to move forward with the other quality plug-ins out there that can do the exact same thing.

[TheLastSuperman]

I have left it running on only one forum I own, the thing that made me think twice was this many moons ago and ever since then I simply can't trust it 100% and avoid it honestly - http://www.vbseo.com/f5/vbseo-security-bulletin-all-supported-versions-patch-release-52783/index11.html#post325749

^ Left quite a sour taste in my mouth as you can imagine :(.

[Yucar]

i just disputed on paypal they sent me an e-mail, replied it and waiting now.

[joeychgo]

I'm going to take legal action against Crawlability. There is too many ppl like me at vbseo forums.

Sure you are...

[mdawg]

vbseo is no more, the company website is shut down as well.

[final kaoss]

Wrong, the site is now back up.

[mdawg]

Only partly correct - while the website is up for sales of vbseo (yes, they want your money), the support section of the site is dead. This is because vbseo is already dead; it just forgot to lie down.
http://admin-talk.com/threads/dear-vbulletin-forum-community-vbseo-is-suspending-operations.43684/

There will be no further versions of vbseo (none for vbulletin 5, for example); there will be no further support from vbseo.

[Brandon Sheley]

There will be no further versions of vbseo (none for vbulletin 5, for example); there will be no further support from vbseo.

Source? :rolleyes:

[mdawg]

From vbseo 7/30/2013: "Hello,

Unfortunately we will not offer compatibility with vBulletin 5.

Kind regards,
Andr?s Dur?n / Crawlability Inc.
vBSEO Sales Specialist."

vbseo no longer responds to support tickets. Open one and see if you ever get a response.

As well, the sibling founders of vbseo have been feuding for some time and the sister states, as noted in the above link, that vbseo will be closing down soon.

[DownNout87]

So what is the best replacement SEO software for vBulletin forums if/when VBSEO shuts down for good?

[Zachery]

You don't need vbseo in the first place, so I don't see the need for a replacement ;)

[CAG CheechDogg]

Proper use of keywords and thread titles is all you need. I get hit by google and other search engines like crazy and I am not having problems with SEO on my site at all.

If you have fresh content and manage to figure out how to get your forum's members involved in the discussions you don't need anything like vbseo.

[Lutece]

i share it here coz its biggest vbulletin forum here so i can prevent others get ....ed. I make an thread in vbseo forums. and no one answers.

You'll also get smart aleck snark and attitude from "support" here, just so you know. But thanks for sharing. I hope your paypal dispute works out.....

[I, Brian]

Hell - I was just about to move a forum to a new domain. I saw the vbseo.com site was down and found this thread.

Presumably I won't be able to move the forum to a new domain, without vbseo giving a warning of being an unlicenced copy because the new domain is not in their records?

[WEBDosser]

That would mean that vbseo has a link back system built in, so would that not give everyone errors?.

[Max Taxable]

You don't need vbseo in the first place, so I don't see the need for a replacement ;)It lost a great deal of its relevance with the release of the much more SEO friendly vB version 4. I honestly don't know why v4 owners think they need VBSEO. They don't.

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Proper use of keywords and thread titles is all you need. I get hit by google and other search engines like crazy and I am not having problems with SEO on my site at all.

If you have fresh content and manage to figure out how to get your forum's members involved in the discussions you don't need anything like vbseo.Roger that, same here. In fact my pagerank is better than some competitors who HAVE VBSEO.

[dizzynation]

Proper use of keywords and thread titles is all you need. I get hit by google and other search engines like crazy and I am not having problems with SEO on my site at all.

If you have fresh content and manage to figure out how to get your forum's members involved in the discussions you don't need anything like vbseo.

Just throwing this out there, but typically people who have never used it on a populated site tend to state comments just as yours but they would never know how much "more" traffic they would be getting.

I personally (from google analytics) saw an increase in organic traffic of 40% in the first month.

I see people talking about one or two options that vBSEO has but if you have it, then you know what I mean when I say "there are 30-40 options that can really help the SEO of your site"

If anyone is looking to get into SEO I suggest following WebmasterTools (Matt Cutts) on youtube, in the 500 videos he has you can see how many of the features vbseo provides is crucial to being optimized

Though.... This was with 3.8.7, now with 4.2 I do see it being needed less and less, but there are still some options that VB cannot provide that as an SEO I would not do without.

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Roger that, same here. In fact my pagerank is better than some competitors who HAVE VBSEO.

PageRank has nothing to do with vbseo

[Max Taxable]

PageRank has nothing to do with vbseo:D

No rolling laugh smilie here.

[dizzynation]

:D

No rolling laugh smilie here.

Young SEO's so cute

For those that do not know, whether you have vbseo or not or even content on your page, pagerank and vbseo have nothing to do with each other.

[Thunderbird8]

Hell - I was just about to move a forum to a new domain. I saw the vbseo.com site was down and found this thread.

Presumably I won't be able to move the forum to a new domain, without vbseo giving a warning of being an unlicenced copy because the new domain is not in their records?

You'll not only get a warning, vBSEO just plain won't work at all if the new domain isn't in their records. I tried to use it on my site's test server (which isn't in their database) to try and test fixing of some of the PHP 5.5 issues that occur...no dice (though I was able to test and fix the lone PHP 5.4 issue that is present, since it triggers during the initialization process).

[SPEEDKILLZ]

What If The URL in Vbseo's database Is Forwarded To The New Domain?

[I, Brian]

You'll not only get a warning, vBSEO just plain won't work at all if the new domain isn't in their records. I tried to use it on my site's test server (which isn't in their database) to try and test fixing of some of the PHP 5.5 issues that occur...no dice (though I was able to test and fix the lone PHP 5.4 issue that is present, since it triggers during the initialization process).

Yeah, it's a total pain - more because for some reason vbseo on the original domain will no longer work, and thinks it's on the new domain, even though I removed the content from there.

No idea why it's doing that - seems to have crashed - but no expectation of help from the vbseo team.

Am going to have to do an emergency upgrade of the forums to vb5, which I really wasn't planning to do until later.

[dizzynation]

:D

No rolling laugh smilie here.

I have a feeling that this comment suggested I was wrong, but now you realized I was right :)

[CAG CheechDogg]

Just throwing this out there, but typically people who have never used it on a populated site tend to state comments just as yours but they would never know how much "more" traffic they would be getting.

I personally (from google analytics) saw an increase in organic traffic of 40% in the first month.

I see people talking about one or two options that vBSEO has but if you have it, then you know what I mean when I say "there are 30-40 options that can really help the SEO of your site"

If anyone is looking to get into SEO I suggest following WebmasterTools (Matt Cutts) on youtube, in the 500 videos he has you can see how many of the features vbseo provides is crucial to being optimized

Though.... This was with 3.8.7, now with 4.2 I do see it being needed less and less, but there are still some options that VB cannot provide that as an SEO I would not do without.

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PageRank has nothing to do with vbseo

What makes you think I have never worked with vBSEO? lol...

I don't use it because I do not need it, I haven't in the past and I have worked on sites that use it or have used it and if you do have fresh content all the time with proper titles you will be fine.

You have your opinion on this and I have mine, I am doing just great without it and have been in the past. Don't go assuming my Man, I could actually say more here but I will not because causing an argument with you is not what I want to do .

Have a good day !

[Max Taxable]

I have a feeling that this comment suggested I was wrong, but now you realized I was right :)Umm, neither. My post was a "inside joke" taking a dig at a friend. But you made it more entertaining!:D

[dizzynation]

Umm, neither. My post was a "inside joke" taking a dig at a friend. But you made it more entertaining!:D

Inside jokes on a forum - Ive used that one :)

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What makes you think I have never worked with vBSEO? lol...

I don't use it because I do not need it, I haven't in the past and I have worked on sites that use it or have used it and if you do have fresh content all the time with proper titles you will be fine.

You have your opinion on this and I have mine, I am doing just great without it and have been in the past. Don't go assuming my Man, I could actually say more here but I will not because causing an argument with you is not what I want to do .

Have a good day !

Nobody needs vBSEO

[Max Taxable]

Inside jokes on a forum - Ive used that one :)Now you're just being silly.:erm:

Nobody needs vBSEOE-Zackly.

[Afrika]

the vbseo page seems to come back ;) there is an database error now

[BGObsession]

Just verifying - it sounds like if we try to install vbseo files we are using on a current site on another domain, that not only will it not work on the new domain, but it may cease working on the original domain as well? Can anyone verify that's the case?

[FreshFroot]

Just verifying - it sounds like if we try to install vbseo files we are using on a current site on another domain, that not only will it not work on the new domain, but it may cease working on the original domain as well? Can anyone verify that's the case?
No it should work on the domain listed no matter.

However, as of last week many people have problems with vBSEO. It seems like it's due to their server not functioning properly. Therefore, keys cannot be verified and vBSEO doesn't function.

I have made fixes myself to make vBSEO work and function still.

If you are interested feel free to privately contact me.

[RichieBoy67]

No it should work on the domain listed no matter.

However, as of last week many people have problems with vBSEO. It seems like it's due to their server not functioning properly. Therefore, keys cannot be verified and vBSEO doesn't function.

I have made fixes myself to make vBSEO work and function still.

If you are interested feel free to privately contact me.

Yeah, nice..selling fixes to profit from Vbseo demise. And you don't post public because of policy?

Anyhow, Vbseo is gone I think without a word to anyone about it or any support what so ever. Nice bunch of people there..:mad:

[r5e]

I actually had disabled vbseo plugins some time ago, then later removed them and deleted all the files. However, I have still got the suspect file versions tool reporting vbseo files missing. I realised I still had .htaccess and have since amended that, but still I have this problem.

Additionally, my site will only work when I disable plugins globally, even though I have individually disabled each plugin. It just started happening suddenly last week (like the others I also hear about). I have re-uploaded every single file (from a fresh 4.2.2 download), but somehow remnants of VBSEO hang on and I can't seem to remove it properly from my site.

Does anyone know of a step by step process to properly remove it (apart from uninstalling the product and deleting the files - which I've already done)?

[Digital Jedi]

Yeah, nice..selling fixes to profit from Vbseo demise. And you don't post public because of policy?

Anyhow, Vbseo is gone I think without a word to anyone about it or any support what so ever. Nice bunch of people there..:mad:
From the little bit I've been able to glean, it wasn't "a bunch of people", as it were, but a number of things involving dispute over site ownership, and yes, malaise, too. As with any business, you didn't have people just not showing up to work little by little. Something happened at the top.

[RichieBoy67]

I agree with that Jedi. The person who is responsible is the guy at the top. The least they could have done was to leave some support options or maybe even send an email explaining. I feel worst though for the people that just bought this product.

r5e - What urls are you using now? If not using mod rewrite than you need no htaccess at all. If you are using Vbulletin seo mod rewrite than you will need to use the htaccess for it.

When you uninstalled Vbseo be removing the plug in, when you got to the part where it asked you if you wanted to delete all the data did you say yes?

Post what is showing up from Vbseo rememanants as you say.

Thanks

[r5e]

r5e - What urls are you using now? If not using mod rewrite than you need no htaccess at all. If you are using Vbulletin seo mod rewrite than you will need to use the htaccess for it.

I'm using the built-in vbulletin rewrite and I've got their .htaccess file going. Seems to be working.

When you uninstalled Vbseo be removing the plug in, when you got to the part where it asked you if you wanted to delete all the data did you say yes?

Actually, I did this some months ago and I can't remember exactly whether I did say "yes" to removing data or not. Perhaps I thought it safer not to.... Sadly, I have no way of going back and finding out, short of reinstalling VBSEO and re-uninstalling. I did consider doing this, but of course there is no VBSEO left to download it from.

Post what is showing up from Vbseo rememanants as you say.
I have posted a pic of my current plugins. You'll see that no VBSEO plugins exist and also that all of them are disabled individually, as well as globally (yet as soon as I enable globally, my forum instantly breaks - white pages only). I have also posted a pic of my suspect file versions. As you can see, it is reporting index and forum.php with wrong content. I have verified these files are fine and reuploaded many times, but no difference. You'll also see that old VBSEO files I deleted long ago are still reported missing.

Any ideas to properly remove this would be greatly appreciated.

[RichieBoy67]

Are you getting any errors or anything like that? If not I would not worry about it but otherwise I am sure there are still vbseo tables left in your database.

Also, are you sure you removed all of the files?

[Bob_R]

Would someone be kind enough to post the exact directions on how to uninstall VBSEO?

Since their site no longer exists I cannot get their directions.

I have no problems with it installed but obviously they'll be no more updates. I don't think it's hurting anything by leaving it installed. Yes or No?

[RichieBoy67]

Use the Way Back machine and just find the url. If you give me a few minutes I will do it.. Instructions though are basic..Uninstall plug in, remove all files, remove htaccess..

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Here ya go

https://web.archive.org/web/20130122142454/http://www.vbseo.com/blogs/mert-goekceimam/how-uninstall-vbseo-238/

[Simon Lloyd]

Dont guess at what needs doing, if you want to uninstall it properly follow the instructions in this thread:
http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?t=238951

[RichieBoy67]

Dont guess at what needs doing, if you want to uninstall it properly follow the instructions in this thread:
http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?t=238951

Think you missed my post as I posted the same instructions link.

In addition, those rewrite rules only cover 3 combinations and not all which is what screwed me. I had the same urls set up as Vbseo I believe with the forum numbers instead of forum titles and there is no rule up there for that and nobody seems to know of one. I could not be more upset with Vbseo and the damage it has done to one of my sites.

[FreshFroot]

Yeah, nice..selling fixes to profit from Vbseo demise. And you don't post public because of policy?

Anyhow, Vbseo is gone I think without a word to anyone about it or any support what so ever. Nice bunch of people there..:mad:

Whether I sell a fix or not... that's up to me.

I am providing you a SERVICE, as I did all the work to find out how to fix vBSEO and make it work. Which means I have created files and found a way to make it work. It means my time was spent on it, and the least anyone could do is also compensate me for that work.

Just like other coders here, they could sell their work. And, yes some of them do.

my vBSEO works fine now and several people have contacted me for the fixes to make it work. Those people are super happy, because their vBSEO is also running perfectly now. No problems so far and this is the BEST short term solution.

I actually had disabled vbseo plugins some time ago, then later removed them and deleted all the files. However, I have still got the suspect file versions tool reporting vbseo files missing. I realised I still had .htaccess and have since amended that, but still I have this problem.

Additionally, my site will only work when I disable plugins globally, even though I have individually disabled each plugin. It just started happening suddenly last week (like the others I also hear about). I have re-uploaded every single file (from a fresh 4.2.2 download), but somehow remnants of VBSEO hang on and I can't seem to remove it properly from my site.

Does anyone know of a step by step process to properly remove it (apart from uninstalling the product and deleting the files - which I've already done)?

Well from what I know it was a fight between 2 family members. It got bad and the person running it at the top fired his family member(s) working there. From then on things went bad, because those family members did A LOT of the vBSEO work. Now without those staff members, it basically meant the end of vBSEO as time went on....

I've seen family fights ruin MANY businesses.... Probably one reason I would NEVER run a business with a family member.

[ozzy47]

No Trading: This site is not a market place. You may not sell or solicit to purchase any product or software anywhere on this forum. You may request paid services only in the "Request for Paid Services" forum.
Discussion of commercial modifications is permitted on the forums at vBulletin.org as long as they are discussed with no promotion. Any promotional threads will be closed and/or deleted on sight.
Promotion of commercial modifications is not allowed.
Commercial modification authors are not permitted to create threads regarding their own products or promote their products in any way, shape or form, or to encourage another user to do so.

[Simon Lloyd]

Think you missed my post as I posted the same instructions link.

In addition, those rewrite rules only cover 3 combinations and not all which is what screwed me. I had the same urls set up as Vbseo I believe with the forum numbers instead of forum titles and there is no rule up there for that and nobody seems to know of one. I could not be more upset with Vbseo and the damage it has done to one of my sites.It seems they do have one (kinda):
RewriteRule ^unix-desktop-dummies-questions-answers/$ /forumdisplay.php?f=33
So it appears you have to do each forum individually so if you have 30 forums you'll have to do this 30 times!, shame there's not a one line fixes all but then the hard work will be worth it and eventually you'll probably build new back links with the correct urls.

[r5e]

Are you getting any errors or anything like that? If not I would not worry about it but otherwise I am sure there are still vbseo tables left in your database.

Also, are you sure you removed all of the files?
Sadly I am getting errors. I cannot enable plugins at all (even though no VBSEO plugins remain and all other plugins are disabled). I have to globally disable plugins for my site to work at all.
I have removed all VBSEO files, but my suspect version checker is complaining about them missing - not complaining that they are present. I have checked the removal instructions, but this does me no good as I cannot go back and do them as I have no vbseo files or scripts to run, no plugins left to remove and no ability to download them, install them and try re-removal.
Is it possible that if there were VBSEO entries still in my database, that they could cause the suspect file versions to mis-report VBSEO files missing and also that it could cause plugins to malfunction, even if there were no VBSEO plugins mentioned in my list?
I have cleaned, deleted, reuploaded my site as much as I can, but the DB is about all that is left. How do I solve this?

[Simon Lloyd]

And you're also dead sure that there isn't anything in your .htaccess files relating to vbseo?

[r5e]

Dead sure. There is a .htaccess file in my forum's root. It is identical to the one that came with the VB 4.2.2 download (in the \do_not_upload\rewrite\apache2 folder).
RewriteEngine on

# If you are having problems or are using VirtualDocumentRoot, uncomment this line and set it to your vBulletin directory.
# RewriteBase /forum/

# If you are having problems with the rewrite from content/ to content.php, uncomment this line to turn MultiViews off.
# Options -MultiViews

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d

RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# Forum
RewriteRule ^threads/.* showthread.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^forums/.* forumdisplay.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^members/.* member.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^blogs/.* blog.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^entries/.* entry.php [QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d

RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# MVC
RewriteRule ^(?:(.*?)(?:/|$))(.*|$)$ $1.php?r=$2 [QSA]

# Check MVC result
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ - [NC,L]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ - [R=404,L]

This is of course different to the VBSEO .htaccess file that used to be in my forum's root. Additionally, I can confirm that I have "Mod Rewrite Friendly URLS" turned on from my admincp.

[Simon Lloyd]

You will find vbseo in your database in:
(and they may not exist in all these places depending on your installation..etc)
adminutil
cron
cronlog
datastore (dont mess with this, after removing all other traces just edit a forum slightly and save to force a rebuild of the datastore)
language
phrase
plugin
product
productcode
setting
settinggroup
style
template

Make sure that all the files that have been listed for vbseo have been removed too.

HTH!

[RichieBoy67]

It seems they do have one (kinda):
RewriteRule ^unix-desktop-dummies-questions-answers/$ /forumdisplay.php?f=33
So it appears you have to do each forum individually so if you have 30 forums you'll have to do this 30 times!, shame there's not a one line fixes all but then the hard work will be worth it and eventually you'll probably build new back links with the correct urls.

Totally not true.. Rafel wrote the rules for the urls I was using and there were just a few.

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Dead sure. There is a .htaccess file in my forum's root. It is identical to the one that came with the VB 4.2.2 download (in the \do_not_upload\rewrite\apache2 folder).
RewriteEngine on

# If you are having problems or are using VirtualDocumentRoot, uncomment this line and set it to your vBulletin directory.
# RewriteBase /forum/

# If you are having problems with the rewrite from content/ to content.php, uncomment this line to turn MultiViews off.
# Options -MultiViews

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d

RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# Forum
RewriteRule ^threads/.* showthread.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^forums/.* forumdisplay.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^members/.* member.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^blogs/.* blog.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^entries/.* entry.php [QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d

RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# MVC
RewriteRule ^(?:(.*?)(?:/|$))(.*|$)$ $1.php?r=$2 [QSA]

# Check MVC result
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ - [NC,L]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ - [R=404,L]This is of course different to the VBSEO .htaccess file that used to be in my forum's root. Additionally, I can confirm that I have "Mod Rewrite Friendly URLS" turned on from my admincp.


What errors are you getting besides seeeing them in your diagnostics?

[r5e]

Thanks Simon.
Checking from phpMYAdmin, a search for "vbseo" turns up turns up 4055 entries in cronlog, these are mostly records of it creating "vbseo_sitemap_task". In the datastore, there are 2 - forumcache contains what looks like linkbacks on the homepage; vbseo_options contains what looks like my license and a whole bunch of config.
There are other smatterings in some posts and PMs, but these are just where someone's typed that text, so nothing sinister. There is a table called "searchcore_text" that seems to mention the same posts where this text appears.
I have 4 tables - vbseo_blacklist, vbseo_likes, vbseo_linkback and vbseo_serviceupdate. Only the linkback table contains data, which just looks like a few old linkbacks.

Without knowing too much about what I am doing, I suspect I can delete these last 4 tables altogether. Then I only need to worry about the vbseo_options and forumcache in the datastore. As I've been warned about messing with datastore, I'm not about to wade into delete these from phpMyAdmin. What would you recommend is the best way to clean this up?

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What errors are you getting besides seeeing them in your diagnostics?
No other error, apart from the moment I globally activate plugins, I get no pages being served. I can only get my forum working with plugins deactivated (individually disabling all of them makes no difference). The only hints I can get for what might be causing this is VBSEO bits still hanging around.
I can also confirm that I've reverted all templates, but there was nothing changed there anyway.

[Simon Lloyd]

Any table that starts "vbseo.." you can delete safely, dont worry about the text in pms or posts, dont' mess with datastore but that can be refreshed by editing a forum, anywhere else where you have an entry for vbseo like "product" table you can remove that entire row (i recommend making a back up of any tables you intend to edit first just to be safe rather than sorry).

Did you search for "vbseo" or did you search for %vbseo%, so i'm asking did you use quotes to search for a specific term or did you use the wildcard % ?

[r5e]

Thanks. I'll roll up my sleeves, backup and then get deleting. I will stay away from the datastore, but I will try to make forum edits and then see if this clears it.
When I searched, I didn't use any wildcard, I just entered vbseo in the search box.

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Have deleted most of what I think is offensive (left posts, PMs and cronlog entries). I left the datastore alone. I went to the forum manager in admincp and edited each of the 4 parent forums that are used (there are quite a few child forums). At first I tried simply clicking "edit" and then save. That seemed to make no difference, so I tried changing a property, saving, then putting it back and saving again. I also went to maintenance/rebuild forum information and ran this.
However, I look at the tables in the datastore and it still contains the same 2 vbseo tables as before.
When I run the suspect version checker, it still complains about vbseo files not found, as well as index and forum.php being wrong.

Is there something more drastic I should do with the datastore? Just editing and saving does not seem to remove these tables.

[Simon Lloyd]

Are you sure that vbseo isn't showing in the PRODUCT and/or PRODUCTCODE tables?

[r5e]

Yes, positive it is not in either of these tables (as attached images show). When I searched on vbseo through my database, only the tables mentioned previously showed any matches. The product tables are clean and match what is shown from the admincp.

[imported_silkroad]

First of all, the "three simple rewrite rule examples" in the vBSEO post (discussed earlier) do not rewrite (undo) all the VBSEO URLs in various search engine indexes.

Whoever above said "you only need these simple rules and nothing else" .. that poster is wrong.

For example, if you were using vBSEO to rewrite your forums titles, and your forum was (before vBSEO):

/showforum?f=111

and after vBSEO it was:

/this-is-my-forum-above/

... and you have many forums, there is no way to have a single mod_rewrite rule to for the forums.

Each forum will need a rewrite rule similar to this:

RewriteRule ^this-is-my-forum-above/$ /showforum?f=111 [R=301,L]

So, if you had 100 forums using this scheme, you will need 100 rewrite rules under this same scheme.

Please, do not be "fooled" by those who think a few simple mod_rewrite rules will work for all vBSEO configurations in all forums!

.. if you were running vBSEO and just used a few simple rules, simply go look at your access log file for all the 404 errors (simple example below), and you will quickly understand what I am talking about.

tail -f access.log | grep " 404 "


If you were using a vBSEO schema with the forum number in the URL, then you can do it with one rule, for example:


/this-is-my-forum-above-f111/

You can get by with a rule such as:

RewriteRule ^this-is-my-forum-above-f([0-9]+)/$ /showforum?f=$1 [R=301,L]


vBSEO had many different configurations, and many people did not use the forum id in the vBSEO URL.

If there is a lesson to be learned here (and there are many), is to make sure you use the forum ID (or thread ID, etc) in our "friendly URLs" because if you don't have unique ids in your "friendly URLs' then you will have trouble to undo them if something like this happens again (you need to revert back).

Cheers.

[RichieBoy67]

First of all, the "three simple rewrite rule examples" in the vBSEO post (discussed earlier) do not rewrite (undo) all the VBSEO URLs in various search engine indexes.

Whoever above said "you only need these simple rules and nothing else" .. that poster is wrong.

For example, if you were using vBSEO to rewrite your forums titles, and your forum was (before vBSEO):

/showforum?f=111 and after vBSEO it was:

/this-is-my-forum-above/... and you have many forums, there is no way to have a single mod_rewrite rule to for the forums.

Each forum will need a rewrite rule similar to this:

RewriteRule ^this-is-my-forum-above/$ /showforum?f=111 [R=301,L]So, if you had 100 forums using this scheme, you will need 100 rewrite rules under this same scheme.

Please, do not be "fooled" by those who think a few simple mod_rewrite rules will work for all vBSEO configurations in all forums!

.. if you were running vBSEO and just used a few simple rules, simply go look at your access log file for all the 404 errors (simple example below), and you will quickly understand what I am talking about.

tail -f access.log | grep " 404 "
If you were using a vBSEO schema with the forum number in the URL, then you can do it with one rule, for example:


/this-is-my-forum-above-f111/You can get by with a rule such as:

RewriteRule ^this-is-my-forum-above-f([0-9]+)/$ /showforum?f=$1 [R=301,L]
vBSEO had many different configurations, and many people did not use the forum id in the vBSEO URL.

If there is a lesson to be learned here (and there are many), is to make sure you use the forum ID (or thread ID, etc) in our "friendly URLs" because if you don't have unique ids in your "friendly URLs' then you will have trouble to undo them if something like this happens again (you need to revert back).

Cheers.

I was using forum id numbers just like Vbseo used to have.

Now my issue is the characters that appear after the url's such as my forum--

forum.php#axzz2jy7qTEM3

I am using Vb mod rewrite--standard canonical - using ignore for unicode now but have tried various settings..

Here is my htaccess.. Is there any way to fix this or does it even matter? I have been using Vbseo for years up until recently. I do remember dealing with this issue years ago but cannot remember details.

RewriteEngine on

RewriteRule f[\d]+/.+-([\d]+)/index([\d]+).html showthread.php?t=$1&page=$2 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule f[\d]+/.+-([\d]+)/ showthread.php?t=$1 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule f([\d]+)/index([\d]+).html forumdisplay.php?f=$1&page=$2 [L,R=301]
RewriteRule f([\d]+)/ forumdisplay.php?f=$1 [L,R=301]

# If you are having problems or are using VirtualDocumentRoot, uncomment this line and set it to your vBulletin directory.
RewriteBase /

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www\.mydomain\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://mydomain.com/$1 [L,R=301]

RewriteRule ^((urllist|sitemap_).*\.(xml|txt)(\.gz)?)$ vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_getsitemap.php?sitemap=$1 [L]

# If you are having problems with the rewrite from content/ to content.php, uncomment this line to turn MultiViews off.
# Options -MultiViews

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d

RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# Forum
RewriteRule ^threads/.* showthread.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^forums/.* forumdisplay.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^members/.* member.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^blogs/.* blog.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^entries/.* entry.php [QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d

RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# MVC
RewriteRule ^(?:(.*?)(?:/|$))(.*|$)$ $1.php?r=$2 [QSA]

# Check MVC result
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ - [NC,L]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ - [R=404,L]

## Expires
<ifModule mod_expires.c>
ExpiresActive On
ExpiresDefault "access plus 1 seconds"
ExpiresByType text/html "access plus 1 seconds"
ExpiresByType image/gif "access plus 3456000 seconds"
ExpiresByType image/jpeg "access plus 3456000 seconds"
ExpiresByType image/png "access plus 3456000 seconds"
ExpiresByType text/css "access plus 3456000 seconds"
ExpiresByType text/javascript "access plus 3456000 seconds"
ExpiresByType application/javascript "access plus 3456000 seconds"
ExpiresByType application/x-javascript "access plus 3456000 seconds"
</ifModule>

## Compression
<ifmodule mod_headers.c>
<ifmodule mod_deflate.c>
AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE text/html text/css text/xml application/x-javascript
BrowserMatch ^Mozilla/4 gzip-only-text/html
BrowserMatch ^Mozilla/4\.0[678] no-gzip
BrowserMatch \bMSIE !no-gzip !gzip-only-text/html
</ifmodule>
</ifmodule>

## Rewrites
<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine on
Options +FollowSymlinks

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -s [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d
RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# Media Library
ReWriteRule ^media/m(\d+).*/tags$ media.php?do=tags_edit&mid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/m(\d+).*/edit$ media.php?do=details_edit&mid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/m(\d+).*/report$ media.php?do=report&mid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/m(\d+).*/c(\d+)$ media.php?do=comment_edit&cmt=$2 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/m(\d+).*/p(\d+).*$ media.php?do=details&mid=$1&pid=$2 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/m(\d+).* media.php?do=details&mid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/p(\d+).*/edit$ media.php?do=playlist_edit&pid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/p(\d+).* media.php?do=playlist&pid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/c(\d+).* media.php?do=category&cid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/u(\d+).* media.php?do=user&uid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/tag/(.*) media.php?do=tag&tid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/results/(.*) media.php?do=results&query=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/advresults/(.*) media.php?do=advresults&query=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/letter/(.*) media.php?do=letter&query=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/browse.* media.php?do=browse [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/search.* media.php?do=search [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/random.* media.php?do=random [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/submit.* media.php?do=submit [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/tagcloud.* media.php?do=tagcloud [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/playlists.* media.php?do=playlists [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/pcreate.* media.php?do=playlists_create [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/pmine.* media.php?do=playlists_mine [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/favorites.* media.php?do=favorites [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/subscriptions.* media.php?do=subscriptions [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/admin/edit/s(\d+).* media.php?do=admin_host_edit&sid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/admin/delete/s(\d+).* media.php?do=admin_host_delete&sid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/admin/export/s(\d+).* media.php?do=admin_host_export&sid=$1 [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^media/admin/(\w+).* media.php?do=admin_$1 [QSA]

# Media Library from Video Directory
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} do=viewdetails&videoid=(\d+)
RewriteRule ^video\.php$ media.php?do=details&mid=%1
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} viewcategory&categoryid=(\d+)
RewriteRule ^video\.php$ media.php?do=category&cid=%1
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} viewuser&userid=(\d+)
RewriteRule ^video\.php$ media.php?do=user&uid=%1
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} viewtag&tag=(.*)
RewriteRule ^video\.php$ media.php?do=tag&tid=%1
ReWriteRule ^video\.php$ media.php

# Forum
RewriteRule ^threads/.* showthread.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^forums/.* forumdisplay.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^members/.* member.php [QSA]
RewriteRule ^blogs/.* blog.php [QSA]
ReWriteRule ^entries/.* entry.php [QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -s [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -l [OR]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d
RewriteRule ^.*$ - [NC,L]

# MVC
RewriteRule ^(?:(.*?)(?:/|$))(.*|$)$ $1.php?r=$2 [QSA]
</ifmodule>

<IfModule mod_headers.c>
<FilesMatch "\.(bmp|css|flv|gif|ico|jpg|jpeg|js|pdf|png|svg|swf |tif|tiff)$">
Header set Last-Modified "Mon, 15 Feb 2013 00:00:00 GMT"
</FilesMatch>
</IfModule>

[adonato]

Hello to all now I would like to do, because I had problems with the forum and I have to delete it all however I pay for a license that I don't have the vbseo software right now, please can you help me to know where can I download the software vbseo? or tell me how can I get my money back?
Thank you very much to all.

[ozzy47]

There is no place to download it since the site closed up. How long ago did you purchase it?

[adonato]

Hello, I did buy it 11/21/2012

What should to do? I want my money back because they must have the software active to download up to they sad to us , I mean now I payed something that I won't have any more I can't bealive because I thought that the software will be available as the page did show us, however don't know why but now my page was hacked and when I upload all again, just a few days a go... I don't have the VBSEO. Now what to do? please did some one ask for money back?

In my country we use Argentine PESO so... Ten Pesos is one dollar... so I saved a lot of money for buy that license.

What to do please help me.

[Simon Lloyd]

Unfortunately this isnt the place to air your views, you'll need to find out how to contact the owners of VBSEO like Crawlability President, Juan Muriente or ask advice from their estranged partner http://admin-talk.com/members/ilia-vbseo.8156/ but in all honesty i don't think you're going to have much luck! :(

Edit: you could try:
Joseph Ward
CRAWLABILITY INC.
1-866-558-3653
Email him here http://www.prweb.com/EmailContact.aspx?prid=325570

[Zachery]

Hello, I did buy it 11/21/2012

What should to do? I want my money back because they must have the software active to download up to they sad to us , I mean now I payed something that I won't have any more I can't bealive because I thought that the software will be available as the page did show us, however don't know why but now my page was hacked and when I upload all again, just a few days a go... I don't have the VBSEO. Now what to do? please did some one ask for money back?

In my country we use Argentine PESO so... Ten Pesos is one dollar... so I saved a lot of money for buy that license.

What to do please help me.
If you used a credit card, or paypal, issue a charge back for non delivery.

[mdawg]

Only partly correct - while the website is up for sales of vbseo (yes, they want your money), the support section of the site is dead. This is because vbseo is already dead; it just forgot to lie down.
http://admin-talk.com/threads/dear-vbulletin-forum-community-vbseo-is-suspending-operations.43684/

There will be no further versions of vbseo (none for vbulletin 5, for example); there will be no further support from vbseo.

As I said - vbseo is dead. It was dead when I posted last year, and it continues to be dead.

[Brandon Sheley]

If you used a credit card, or paypal, issue a charge back for non delivery.

I'm pretty sure paypal has a 6 month window on that, the op's purchase was well over a year ago. :confused:

[RichieBoy67]

I am not sure PayPal would be too helpful with this type of a purchase anyways.

I really think Vbseo could have handled this closing in a much more professional and honest manner. I am disappointed to say the least.