What happens to vb3 mods of the coders who no longer post here?

[Chris8]

What happens to vb3 modifications of the coders who no longer post here?
Examples: BlackThorn, Boofo
Are they all moved to graveyard? And if so then why it does not apply to vb4 mods?

Oh and another question, could I have an access to graveyard? Please.
There are plenty of mods and code buried there (if the attachments are not deleted and still accessible) and I would really desire to get to some of them. I don't care if they are not supported and if the code is still up to date or not. I would install and test them on my own responsibility.
I mean if there is a chance I could. Could I?

[socialteenz]

I have no idea about BlackThorn & boofo has passed away. Few coders have left Vb & many are planing to leave sooner. You won't have access to the graveyard as they were moved for some specific reasons.

[Chris8]

I have no idea about BlackThorn & boofo has passed away. Few coders have left Vb & many are planing to leave sooner.
I know. And it's really a shame what's happening to this software and community but I can't blame coders. :(


You won't have access to the graveyard as they were moved for some specific reasons.

huh... yes, that's what I was thinking but still perhaps a kind request could be accepted by the one in charge. The code is like poetry... and I bet some decent poems are buried there. I really crave to see some of them...

[Lynne]

The modifications will just stay up unless the developer asks to have them removed, in which case they are moved to the graveyard.

Nobody gets access to the graveyard. That is were removed modifications go. Most are moved there because the developer no longer wishes to share them any longer.

[Chris8]

The modifications will just stay up unless the developer asks to have them removed, in which case they are moved to the graveyard.

Nobody gets access to the graveyard. That is were removed modifications go. Most are moved there because the developer no longer wishes to share them any longer.

So, in other words no chance I can download them as you does no exceptions for anyone, even if he ask very nicely or is willing to pay?

How do you know if the coder who passed away (Boofo) or is not reachable (BlackThorn - I tried to contact him many times with no success as he developed some vbAdvanced Activity Stream mod I wanted to try) doesn't wish to have his/her vb3 mods up here?

[Lynne]

Modifications are the property of the developer. If they ask us to remove them, then we remove them. We can't then allow people to go download them when they have asked to not share them anymore. Nobody would share stuff here if we didn't remove the modification when they asked us to remove it.

[Chris8]

Modifications are the property of the developer. If they ask us to remove them, then we remove them. We can't then allow people to go download them when they have asked to not share them anymore. Nobody would share stuff here if we didn't remove the modification when they asked us to remove it.

Okay, thanks Lynne, I think I got it.

[vbresults]

There should at least be a protocol to transfer over the modification topic to someone else producing a modern version of the inactive/abandoned plugin, even if the modification itself can't be (for obvious reasons, IP and whatnot).

[Lynne]

If the developer wants to transfer it to someone else, then they can do so. But we can't allow someone else to just take it over without getting permission from the developer first.

[vbresults]

If the developer wants to transfer it to someone else, then they can do so. But we can't allow someone else to just take it over without getting permission from the developer first.

I mean in instances where the developer is unreachable.

[Lynne]

I mean in instances where the developer is unreachable.
If the developer is unreachable, then nobody has permission to take their modification and do anything with it and then release it. You may do so for your own site, but you may not share it. There absolutely must be explicit permission from the developer for somebody to take over a mod and then release it.

[vbresults]

If the developer is unreachable, then nobody has permission to take their modification and do anything with it and then release it. You may do so for your own site, but you may not share it. There absolutely must be explicit permission from the developer for somebody to take over a mod and then release it.

I'm not talking about the modification/code itself, I'm talking about the modification topic.

[Lynne]

You may do whatever you want with a modification *idea* as long as the code is totally your own.

[Chris8]

I'm sorry but I cannot resist... the laughter, and it's not a first time when users ask something controversial on vb.com or vb.org using plane and simple English but the real answer is evaded by admins, owners in series of posts and then after all thread closed.
Let's be realistic, they know very well what is a question about but they have to answer this way for some reason.
Well, whatever, I think that on the long distance vB owners shoot in their own foot by trying to kill vb3 in order to promote newer versions. But it's their choice. We only can try to save as much we can on our own.

So, who is the owner of vbulletin.org board/domain?

[Lynne]

Huh? How have I evaded the answer? If a developer wants his modification removed, it gets removed and noone is allowed to download it any longer. How is that unclear or an evasion in any way? And how does that answer 'kill' vB3?

(Blackthorn asked to have all his vB3 mods removed about a year ago. He no longer wanted to support them and so he didn't want them around.)

[Chris8]

Huh? How have I evaded the answer? If a developer wants his modification removed, it gets removed and noone is allowed to download it any longer. How is that unclear or an evasion in any way? And how does that answer 'kill' vB3?

(Blackthorn asked to have all his vB3 mods removed about a year ago. He no longer wanted to support them and so he didn't want them around.)

Well, because that was the actual question, if that modifications got really removed on the coders request or they were removed by admins on their own without modification author interference.

And of course I do not accuse anyone of anything. I just found it weird that these authors had all their vb3 mods removed, usually coders leave all of it there unless they want everything to be removed or specific one modifications to be removed. That's why I asked about it. And now you finally actually answered it, that Blackthorn asked for it himself and I assume from the answer Boofo asked for it too.

[Lynne]

We never remove a modification without the developers request unless there is a security flaw and the developer won't/can't fix it or it is a copy of someone else's mod that they didn't have permission to share. I can't think of any other reason why we would remove a modification.

Your Join Date says you have been here since 2009. If so, I would have thought you would have seen Boofo has shared modifications and then removed them several times before. I really liked the guy, but it was a habit of his. :)

[Paul M]

I'm sorry but I cannot resist... the laughter, and it's not a first time when users ask something controversial on vb.com or vb.org using plane and simple English but the real answer is evaded by admins, owners in series of posts and then after all thread closed.
Let's be realistic, they know very well what is a question about but they have to answer this way for some reason.
I dont know what planet you are on, but clearly not in the same reality as the rest of us. :erm:

No one has evaded anything. :rolleyes:



So, who is the owner of vbulletin.org board/domain?
Internet Brands own it. I am the Project Manager for it.

[Christos Teriakis]

"...even if he ask very nicely"

Nicely asked question was your first post. Since the time that you got a clear reply on how this site works, and you're continue posting again and again about this question, sorry but in this case the question stops to be "very nicely asked" and becomes frustating question.

As for final line. It's true that the coder(s)/designer(s) is the one who ask for placing their mods to graveyard. But even if it was that the admins move them, again there is always the same fact "Nobody can download anything from graveyard".

Chris

[Chris8]

I dont know what planet you are on, but clearly not in the same reality as the rest of us. :erm:

No one has evaded anything. :rolleyes:




Internet Brands own it. I am the Project Manager for it.


Planet Earth as you mate but indeed sometimes I find my head up in the clouds in a dreamworld. :)

We never remove a modification without the developers request unless there is a security flaw and the developer won't/can't fix it or it is a copy of someone else's mod that they didn't have permission to share. I can't think of any other reason why we would remove a modification.

Your Join Date says you have been here since 2009. If so, I would have thought you would have seen Boofo has shared modifications and then removed them several times before. I really liked the guy, but it was a habit of his. :)

"...even if he ask very nicely"

Nicely asked question was your first post. Since the time that you got a clear reply on how this site works, and you're continue posting again and again about this question, sorry but in this case the question stops to be "very nicely asked" and becomes frustating question.

As for final line. It's true that the coder(s)/designer(s) is the one who ask for placing their mods to graveyard. But even if it was that the admins move them, again there is always the same fact "Nobody can download anything from graveyard".

Chris


Yeah, I read it wrong perhaps, everyone makes mistakes, no?
I know that many coders ask to have their modifications removed and yes, I agree that if it's the will of an author no one should have an access to his/her code. But that was not the question. I'm sorry I misinterpreted things but I think my question had a valid base to be asked.