I need the Karma Hack and I am willing to pay

[caserini]

Okay, I know this has been mentioned a million times, but I want this hack, and am willing to pay for it.

I would like it to be based on Overgrown's adaptation of the hack. With the little bars and such. I would like it to be member rating member not solely admin rating member.

This can be like a mini auction.

I will make my decision based on price, quality of the member, and ease of installation.

Let the bidding begin!

:)

PS - You can take a look at my forum to see the color scheme which is basically the same as the default (I just love this color blue!)

[BradC]

back to back requests... one above the other.. one below the other.. geeze

[caserini]

Obviously, you can see this is something that people want...

BADLY!

[BradC]

Yah I noticed... lol :)

Don't worry we are working on it.. but got side tracked by a crap load of other things.. don't ya just hate that :)

But if someone can get this done for ya.. and you pay for it... it most likely will not be released... unless you want to spend your money only to share it hehe..

btw.. like was stated maybe elance.com can help.

[snyx]

icq me, I can get it done in like 3 days

[caserini]

I don't have icq...you can mail me at: caserini@yahoo.com

[theflow]

Originally posted by snyx
icq me, I can get it done in like 3 days Snyx, do you mean you have already attempted components of this, know the requirements and have deternined you could achieve it in 3 days? I ask because I am considering paying someone right now to create this hack for me ...

As BradC notes, and from reading many prior karma requests, apparently this feature-set is both:

(1) high in demand
(2) sufficiently complex so as not to want to simply give it away considering such hard work & resource time

Last I have followed, wluke (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=868) at one point was going to create this hack and release it here, but mostly due to (2) above, is reserving it for use at his sitepoint community, for competitive edge purposes (which makes perfect sense.) Overgrow (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=219) also created a karma hack, but chooses not to release it here, same reasons. BradC (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=4645) and ToraTora! (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=5313) were collaborating to solve their version of karma. But sounds like same thing -- (2) above.

So, seems one approach is to hire someone to hack a solution -- in which case you are paying for that person's time.

But because of (1) above, makes sense to me that someone might consider finding a way to sell their already-completed hack code. Can someone explain to me the "rules", if any, about selling hack code? Is vB okay with this? Is it expressly prohibited? Is it "culturally" encouraged or discouraged?

I am already clear on the main issue that: vB will not officially support any user who has installed any hack code. But if a vB license holder chooses to buy and install hack code, does vB have a problem with this? Please give me the lowdown.

Thanks, Richard

[theflow]

http://baseball.fanhome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=689017&pagenumber=2

I have not tried it yet -- but maybe it is most efficient to contact vB site owner MattR (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=392) and discuss buying the hack he created. The question is: does it perform well? Anyone know?

MattR, Overgrow, wluke, Freddie discuss/compare how they'd prefer "karma" hacks to work: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=54414#post54414

===========================================

Here's vB user Overgrow's (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=219) description of the "karma" hack he created (inspired by wluke) on his vB site overgrow.com: http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?threadid=20338

Here are search results for the word "karma" on that site, with explanations about how they employ it there: http://www.overgrow.com/edge/search.php?query=karma&forumchoice=-1&booleanand=yes&searchin=subject&searchdate=-1&searchuser=&searchdateline=&exactname=yes&action=dosearch&getdaily=&pagenum=&threadstart=&sortorder=views&sortdesc=

===========================================

More discussion of various versions of "karma":
This thread has wluke's last status on karma for vB incl some code written for vB 1.x versions: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21668

[caserini]

Just so everyone knows...I would really like the "karma" in the Karma Hack...meaning I would like it to be like Overgrown's.

I don't want a simple little rating system with pluses or minuses... I want to make it fun.

That's MY requirement.

[snyx]

SOME of my krama hack features would include (ruff type up)

-full CP features (ie. features below editable via CP)
-admins set a vote flooding (ie. user can only give karma ot a user, once a day, once a week, once a month)
-all users start at 0 karma, one GOOD karma gives them +1 one BAD karma gives them -1
-users gain a CP set number of +karma when they hit posting marks (ie. user is at +5 karma, he hits his 100 post, he gets +5 karma
-karma reset (ie. set all karma on users to reset after 1,5,12 month(s) or never
-users can't give karma until set number of posts (ie. new users can't give karma until they hit 10 posts, or from when they join)
-when mods, or admins give karma it counts for more (ie. you can set your mods to give +2 or -2 karma when normal users would be +1 or -1)

so many other features, most number ones are editable from CP, I don't have time to type them all out, cuz I gotta do some lawn work :p email me, or icq me if ya wanna talk more

[joecrow]

synx if you have it like you told me you do on icq why dont you release it people are cryin out for this hack. Soon this hack will end up like lockdown no one will have it.

[theflow]

Thread URL:
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?threadid=44213&highlight=karma#searchjump

Excerpt
...I know what you mean, "If you give other people, they would give you". I actually observed that, it doesn't even work like that. When you are welknown in OG forums, then people give you karma, even for the smallest buds or simple jokes. And a lot of new users try to make wellknown users like them, to get some karma. I give everytime karma when I like something.

Check out for example this thread ... I uploaded 17 pictures in that thread, I think the pictures look good. The thread has been viewed +1500 times , let's say 200 people viewed 7 times (I think more ppl less times viewed), and from those ppl just 6 of them responded, and 2 of them gave karma. If I would be all about karma, 2 karmas and 6 responses wouldn't be enough for 17 pictures. Ppl just want to look at the pictures, and even if they enjoy or like them they don't respond, this is what I don't understand.

Compare an unknown user's thread (including nice pictures) with a wellknown user's. There is a huge difference. The whole karma thing has nothing to do with that what you grow, it has smthing to do with popularity. Maybe in my case the problem is my broken English, I saw some of the wellknown users complaining about ppl's wrong spelling and stuff, which I find not o.k to discuss about.

Moderator wrote "You gotta give to receive."
It looks like you haven't given enough in 2 years to get some. Here is some (I guess just one) karma for you.
You gave and received, I know how it works now ..."

[theflow]

Originally posted by snyx
SOME of my krama hack features would include -when mods, or admins give karma it counts for more (ie. you can set your mods to give +2 or -2 karma when normal users would be +1 or -1)General Question for all:
How do you compare the best "karma" systems out there to slashdot's points & filtration system?

http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml#cm600

Do those of you who want some kind of "karma" system also want the filtration that enables you to say, "show me only threads/posts that have a minimum threshold of xx points" ?? -- or do you mostly just care about the raw karma points themselves, and how they differentiate various users from one another?

[MrLister]

how much are you willing to pay?

[caserini]

For me, it's a bidding war...

Name your price...

[theflow]

Originally posted by caserini
For me, it's a bidding war...
Name your price... I agree.

[JoshFink]

So, "TheFlow", what's your definition of the Karma hack? How would you like it to work?

Josh

[snyx]

Originally posted by joecrow
synx if you have it like you told me you do on icq why dont you release it people are cryin out for this hack. Soon this hack will end up like lockdown no one will have it.
I told you I had most of it, and it would take me a week "rush" to finish. (if I was lucky) Personally, I don't like releasing my own work, selfish as it may seem. Sell it to a few people sure, but not publicly release. This will never be a lockdown hack, arg, I wish people would forget that hack. joecrow, maybe you should stick to pokemon, and not fake cc until you grow up a little.

snyx

PS- please don't refer to my private ICQ conversations unless I say its okay, for that your conversation is also publicly known.

[theflow]

Originally posted by JoshFink
So, "TheFlow", what's your definition of the Karma hack? How would you like it to work?For my purposes, the cuteness of karma points is irrelevant to me. What I want is in many ways opposite of what I have now read more closely on overgrow.com -- where they state it is less about the content of any given post and more about a "niceness" and reciprocation style of the user, in general. (That's oversimplifying it).

I'm much more interested in a tool that enables users to rate the usefullness (to them) of the content of the posts, independent of whether you like anything about the author himself/herself. Obvious restrictions against multiple voting, voting for self, etc.

Formulas, thresholds etc for tabulating & displaying of rating results need to have a relevance beyond simply "if there are 10 votes, display results as an average". I'm not a coder so I cannot define those requirements.

My real intent is to enable filtration in three principal ways:

(1) Browse Mode: whatever graphical display system is chosen to communicate ratings (stars are good), users can scan thread lists, member lists, search return lists, etc and easily see these displays, much like exists already for thread ratings.

(2) Targeted filtration: Posters who have negative ratings are good candidates for "ignore" lists

(3) Filtered browse: "show me only posts/threads that have a minimum threshold of x rating"

Edit: Oh yes, I want to be able to filter out annoying Guests, not just Registered users. Thus, the unreliable IP checking... But maybe someone knows a way of handling this.

[theflow]

Originally posted by snyx
Sell it to a few people sure, but not publicly release. Let me try again: how does selling work? is vB okay with this? Is this something that has to be done on the sly, as private transaction? Or do hacks like this sometimes get sold, legitimately, as something kind of like a 3rd-party plug-in? (I understand hacks are not plug & play auto-installed. I'm asking is vB cool with 3rd party sales of hacks, knowing already that anyone who installs any hack is ineligible for vB support of their licensed software? Any thoughts on this?

[snyx]

why wouldnt you be able to? its a hack, it includes no source code, and is written by the user.

[JoshFink]

Originally posted by snyx


snyx

PS- please don't refer to my private ICQ conversations unless I say its okay, for that your conversation is also publicly known.

Snyx, did he try contact you too? What happened? I believe it was him whom contacted me this morning about installing vbPortal 3 for him..

Hopefully I'm wrong.. If so, I apologise joecrow

Josh

[Bane]

No its the same guy.

[Overgrow]

I'm here and my Karma hack is solid code.

As stated above, I'm wary to release it publically due to competition now running vB. I am willing to sell it.

It needs a few hours work to have it 2.0.3 and CP workable. If you are willing to pay, I will incorporate whatever additional features you require. I'm sorry but I don't do bidding wars. This is my livelihood and I'm willing to customize it to your exact specs.

Please e-mail me if you wish to purchase the Overgrow Karma System:

webmaster@overgrow.com

[NL5]

Originally posted by Overgrow
If you are willing to pay, I will incorporate whatever additional features you require.

I'm already working on this hack for some time and I have it nearly finished. Few hours of coding and it will be ready.

Let me know your requests by PM if you're not satisfied with Overgrow's price and I will make it for you.

[ToraTora!]

nice to see capitalism is not dead within the confines of the hack release forum. :rolleyes:

[BradC]

I stated this awhile back.. a voodoo witch doctor gave me some good karma... which has helped on some things.. not all but some.. so I think I can pass along some of my karma to ya if ya want it :)

for maybe 5 bucks.. hehe :D

[ToraTora!]

NL5
Junior Member

Registered: Sep 2001
Location:
Posts: 1

does this seem just a bit odd to anyone else but me?
and now he is going to be a part of this bidding war?
whatever be the case, this is getting out of hand..this is not ebay.

[Overgrow]

Just to clarify, I am not involved in any bidding wars. I don't do business like that. People are offering to pay for the karma hack so I am obliging them by offering to sell it.

My Karma software has been running for over 8 months on a forum with 13,000 members and 250 people online. I have balanced my ratings and karmic power system over this period of time and have made all of the fixes and adjustments necessary for the system to run smoothly. This is not new code, it has been thorougly tested in a mid-level traffic environment. Believe me, a new Karma script will not be balanced and smooth out of the box.

[BradC]

Amen Overgrown :)

a lot of great things come with time and a lot of effort... I mean ya we can all slap something together.. but for it to work perfectly and smoothly.. there will have to be a lot of testing that will take time.

[NL5]

Originally posted by Overgrow
My Karma software has been running for over 8 months on a forum with 13,000 members and 250 people online.

I know you are experienced vB user. But be honest! Such thing as karma hack needs one karma.php file ~10kb, one new table and few template adjustments. You really don't need an army of users to test this one.

Anybody interested PM me and I will send you specifications of this script- it will be working in 2.x (and after few changes in 1.1.x too). Its mechanism is based on description in discussions here.

Overgrow, many people are interested in this one-- why don't you release it? Its great but just little hack.

[BradC]

I would be interested in any one that has got this complete... just to give me some insite.. cause for some reason I just cannot get mine to work..

I might just have to start over... cause as me and Tora try to put one togethre it flops lol...

[JoshFink]

Originally posted by NL5


I know you are experienced vB user. But be honest! Such thing as karma hack needs one karma.php file ~10kb, one new table and few template adjustments. You really don't need an army of users to test this one.

Anybody interested PM me and I will send you specifications of this script- it will be working in 2.x (and after few changes in 1.1.x too). Its mechanism is based on description in discussions here.

Overgrow, many people are interested in this one-- why don't you release it? Its great but just little hack.

NL5, instead of asking for Overgrow to release his. Why don't you release yours.. Your almost done you said.

Josh

[Overgrow]

I know you are experienced vB user. But be honest! Such thing as karma hack needs one karma.php file ~10kb, one new table and few template adjustments. You really don't need an army of users to test this one.


Mine has modifications to showthread and member for additional features. No, it is not a very complicated hack... as evident by the number of people who started writing it. It is a tough hack to do correctly, as evident by the number of people who have finished it and are running it (2).

I'm not downing what you're writing... just letting you know, if you just put some karmic power numbers in there and let it loose, hope it goes well, you will be in for a surprise. What I'm saying is that there were many many tweaks that went into the system only months after it had been online. Ask W.Luke if his Karma system worked out of the box.... I'm sure he'll agree.

>>Overgrow, many people are interested in this one-- why don't you release it? Its great but just little hack.

I know.. and I've always released every feature we've written for vBulletin (Images, Spiderfriend, query caching, etc)... but this is one thing that we have over the competition. Also I can only imagine the request for support if I put a hack of this sort out... Also I don't make pretty install routines and nice table creators, which pisses people off. I'd rather sell to a few clients if they're interested and make a bit of cash.. this is what I do after all.

More power to you if yours works out as a public release.

[NL5]

>>What I'm saying is that there were many many tweaks that went into the system only months after it had been online.

True-- it has to be balanced. But more important than time spent with testing is size & traffic of the site. That needs to be really fine tuned.

>>this is one thing that we have over the competition.

I agree and don't plan to "release" it for public. Second reason as you already stated is that I want pure functional hack and don't plan to make real installation script.

And good luck to you with sales.

[Overgrow]

Karma for vB 2.03: Installation routine and everything...

[Overgrow]

Control Panel 1...

[Overgrow]

Cpanel 2...

[Overgrow]

Cpanel 3... It was fun learning how to hack on 2.0...

[BradC]

I am in love :)

[ToraTora!]

Overgrow, i must say that is one of the most impressive and comprehensive hacks in the form of administrative, and member areas i have seen...very nice work!

No doubt in my mind you should charge for this hack. None what-so-ever. :)

[bitbender]

50.00 US Dollars ??

Great work Overgrow! I just spent an hour reading all the post about karma hack. Your gif's got me excited, and I've been up all night fighting mainframes~!

Please let me/us all know what you want for this hack?

I will pay. Being a career programmer, I know that your time and testing/tuning/observation is worth money!!

The reason I was out here searching? The Emails from my small membership already asking about a rating system other than post counts!

I await, along with everybody else! Albeit I am a relative newbie (I sport exactly three months experience in PHP!), I have written other code long enough to recognize a masterpiece.

[ToraTora!]

just thought i would throw in a compliment for bit's signature. Top notch quote there bit. :)

[Thurian]

Hmmm, I like. I want to buy license! How much?

[Overgrow]

Thanks for the compliments and interest..! let me finish up the package, news at 11...

[VirtueTech]

Very very cool....I can't wait :)

[BradC]

Lol News at 11 :)

contact me too Overgrown.. depends on the price but I would be willing to purchase this great addon also... :)

I have a new site that I am going to launch which might take 2 vb licences lol and this would be beneficial :)

[Overgrow]

User CPanel (myVB)

[Overgrow]

Comments on your posts...

[JohnV]

Greetings:

I'd be willing to purchase this as well.

[BradC]

Seriously if you sell this.. tell me about... I won't need support.. just some basic installation instructions and I will be a happy camper :D

[bitbender]

Is it 11 yet?

I've got fresh, crisp American cash waiting for you, OverGrown!

Or one bill with a quality portrait of American President Grant.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2001/09/1.gif

Or was it film at 11????

Cheers!

[brady]

Arg, THE WAITING IS KILLING ME!

Overgrow, your hack looks amazing... and like others, I would be willing to pay!

[Overgrow]

Anyone interested in Karma?

webmaster@overgrow.com (mailto:webmaster@overgrow.com)

[brady]

YAY!

Just finished installing my karma hack by overgrow!

works perfect!
easy to install too!

[bitbender]

Completely AWSOME Hack!

1) Easy to install - If you have the Stars Hack, TAKE IT OUT..It's like toothpicks compared to California's Giant Redwood tree's!!

2) Easy to use!!! Just start rating members! Tell the membership, watch them start rating everybody Else!!

3) Installation "wizard" - Awsome work. Smoothest hack applied, "to date"!!


:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

OG, D'is Heah Hack is the Stone Cold, Action Attraction!!

[BradC]

I want to add to this thread.. I have paid for the hack... and let me tell everyone, this is so simple to install. VERY very well put together and thought out. I truely can't see how you could possibly go wrong purchasing it if this is something you have been wanting.

[MrLister]

I'd also like to add to this thread that I AM buying it whenever i get the chance to give him the money.. we live about 10 mins away from each other. :) but i don't know him still.

[Digimack]

The Karma hack by Overgrow is very nice.
The install is a breeze. Thanks again Overgrow.

Check it out if you want...
http://www.DSSLounge.com

[mADmAX`]

The hack is very easy to install and very easy to understand exactly what you have to edit. You can take a look if you want to but its a must for VB.

Thanks,
mADmAX`
http://www.DSSMafiaForums.COM

[rockergrrl]

I wish I had the money for this hack... I could use it for a board project I'm going to do...

[Santa]

where can I get this hack ???

Santa

[bitbender]

send and email to webmaster@overgrow.com

[\/ash]

I have it =]

[Grandmaster]

I have it installed on my board too, and it was a breeze.

[ozone2000]

darn, i wish i could afford it, but my license comes first... darn

[Hotte]

I´ve installed it too
Great Hack

[maverick1236]

Easy to Install

NOT ONE ERROR!!!

Well worth the $$!!

TX Overgrow

[Scott MacVicar]

i found it plastered all over some warez sites, it was the version by Overgrown.

I ignored it as i don't like the concept :P

[Admin]

I suggest you give Overgrow the URL so he can maybe do something about this.

[maverick1236]

so u were browsing the warez site?:rolleyes:

lol-j/k

[Scott MacVicar]

they had my retail topsites script up to -_-' i was moaning at them to remove it.

[Dalius]

I love it!
GO TEAM OVERGROW!!! :)

[Kameleon]

i found it plastered all over some warez sites, it was the version by Overgrown.
You're kidding, right? Cause that's messed up.

[Dalius]

Ack, I have a problem

My karma bar is right beside my avatar!

How do I get at the bottem of that

[Dalius]

Originally posted by Dalius
Ack, I have a problem

My karma bar is right beside my avatar!



How do I get at the bottem of that

[Overgrow]

Originally posted by Dalius:
>>Ack, I have a problem

Yea, the problem is you didn't pay for the Karma software and you are expecting support. THAT is your problem.

A big thank you to SNYX for distributing my Karma package to the Warez community and also for posting it for download here at vBulletin.com. That's right, he even posted my copyrighted software here for download until the admin's removed it.

I even gave Snyx a small discount! He offered me $100 for the hack because a client had already paid him the $100 and he did not want to write it himself. So he pocketed the profit, installed it on his site and his client's, and gave out the package to every kid on the Warez sites.

And a big screw you to Vash who enjoys bragging of his thievery (www.anime-z-online.com and hololith.com). Vash's co-admin, Nanoentity, was already banned here at vBulletin for unlicensed software. Let's hope he and Snyx are next.

[almighty one]

it is an easy fix but seeing this **** was stolen and all i will not even begin to tell how to fix that simple problem sorry and to thiink i would have installed this as well looks like a pretty nice hack i must say nice work overgrow sorry people rob you of your work

[Dalius]

Hey, I just registered, I see the hack posted under Releases. I didn't know you had to buy it. Instead of flaming me, how about telling someone HOW to buy it maybe :(

[Overgrow]

Sorry Dalius, I assumed you got it from a Warez site and not from here since the offending post has been removed. If you wish to purchase a license, please write to me at

webmaster@overgrow.com

[Dalius]

Originally posted by Overgrow
Sorry Dalius, I assumed you got it from a Warez site and not from here since the offending post has been removed. If you wish to purchase a license, please write to me at

webmaster@overgrow.com

Okay Thanks :)

[c-pr0mpt]

Hopefully Dalius's debit card works for paying you. Couldnt get it work when attempting to pay me for work. :rolleyes:

[maverick1236]

TX-now the guy will probably never release his good work here again-even if there is a price

IMMATURE!!

[snyx]

okay, lets get this stright. I didnt give your work to anyone, and stop dragging my name around overgrow. im probolly half your age, and even if you pulled some crap like this on me, I wouldnt go around posting about you. you have my email, use it. and people are calling me imature?

snyx

[AJR]

Overgrow... excellent hack! I have installed it at http://www.vpforums.com and it works great! Easy installation and great features! Overall the response is positive on my forum.

[Dalius]

Actually, c-prompt, I'm using my credit card this time. I thought it would be easier with a debit card so I don't have to pay any bills.

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by bitbender
If you have the Stars Hack, TAKE IT OUT..It's like toothpicks compared to California's Giant Redwood tree's!!Thanks. :rolleyes: You know even though some of us can't program as well as Overgrow we still have feelings.

[Dalius]

lol dont worry tubdogg, you still have kickass hacks!

[ozone2000]

Originally posted by Dalius
lol dont worry tubdogg, you still have kickass hacks!

I agree, tubedogg still does make GREAT hacks, its just a matter of the idea!

[Dalius]

Yep
Sweet, I'm going to have my boards 1337!!1

[Nicholas Brown]

Tubedoggs hacks are very cool hacks and I get to see them a lot earlier than most of you do :p

I think all Kev's hacks have been great! :)

[Dalius]

Ok
This is REALLY annoying
I have had people contact me on ICQ, asking for the Karma Hack
Listen before you ask, I WILL NOT GIVE IT OUT.
I BOUGHT IT
IF YOU WANT IT, YOU BUY IT

So stop asking

People who asked me:

Some guy named boya

I think the forums shoumd be acessed by members /w lisences only, or some forums. Add a lisenced user acess group, and we acess this, while normal users can't

Dal

[snyx]

Dalius you things thats bad? How about being ACCUSED of somthing you DIDNT DO! Thats right overgrow! After a few hours of looking around, I found my proof. YOU SCREWED UP BOY! And you tried to place the blame on me! When you get my little email, things should change. IM NOT A CROOK BUDDY!

Myles

[Dalius]

It's extremely annoying

:mad: :mad:

[Phrozen2001]

i have the Karma Hack installed on my forums!! ....works great!!

if anyone wants it ...i will send them to a place of where they can get it ....LEGALLY ofcourse!!

never pirate software :mad:

phrozen2001

[snyx]

gold mate. :p
next think your going to say is you got it from me.
(oh, wouldnt you just LOVE that overgrow)

snyx

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by snyx
gold mate. :p
next think your going to say is you got it from me.
(oh, wouldnt you just LOVE that overgrow)

snyx

Take it out of the forums... Y ou can talk to each other by IM, email, telepathy, I don't care. Take it out of these forums now or you may be banned.

[snyx]

wow, how one sided is this?
I hope your giving the SAME message to overgrow!
whatever, im done here anyways.

snyx

[Sinecure]

Ok what is going on here?? I just looked at this thread for the first time. I wanted the vbhacks thread to get more replys heheh :) sneaky me!

Anyways, whats with all this complaining and screaming over a hack?? Cant we all be civilized??

[Domenico]

What's all the fuss about?

Anyone still wants this hack?
Just PM me...

[hacker]

I tried contacting overgrow, but still no reply.:confused:

[theflow]

Originally posted by hacker
I tried contacting overgrow, but still no reply.:confused: What do you expect? He's pissed off at being ripped off. No confusion necessary.

[Domenico]

Originally posted by theflow
What do you expect? He's pissed off at being ripped off. No confusion necessary.

Why be PISSED OFF at someone who wants to BUY his hack?
I don't think he knows what doing business really is.

[theflow]

Originally posted by Domenico
Why be PISSED OFF at someone who wants to BUY his hack?
I don't think he knows what doing business really is.

Very simple: because TRUST broke down, and he doesn't really need/want another person buying it only to then turn around and post it somewhere for others to get for free.

Many of you must have missed the point: He didn't start this as a business entrprise. He responded to demand. But it required considerable energy for him to pull together his work aggregated over a year's time; and he clearly stated he didn't feel it a win-win scenario if he simply did all that work and posted it for free. It is a far more complex hack with a richer feature-set than almost any hack found on vB. But, because there was demand, he suggested people contact him via email and they could transact privately. He got enough inquires to make it worth his while, he then packaged it together into a releasable hack, with instructions, etc, priced it fairly and reasonably, and transacted.

Someone ripped him off. He rightfully so got pissed. And he doesn't need the business.

Maybe you need a business lesson, no?

[Admin]

And by the way, the hack was again posted in the releases forum.
I'm posting this only now, since I didn't want too many to know about it (deleted now).

[hacker]

I have bought all my software, and I want to pay him for the code that is his hack. In fact, I have a Support Desk code that I have contributed to this community for anyone who asks (only one so far), but this is better than commercial software (WonderDesk, Dapper, etc, etc with FAQ and Surveys built in).

I like it, I contacted him, and I want to pay him, even suggesting via Paypal o MC. Still no reply.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...

[Domenico]

Nah, I don't need a business lesson. I know in what world we are living and I don't need to shout it out when someone rips me off.

I wonder if he ever bought his windows in the shop. Get with this world or stay inside and keep on crying.

No it is not good that people spread these things but please grow up and see how it is.

There isn't a person in this world that doesn't get ripped off at least once a day. Think about that.

[hacker]

A pity, I only wish to improve my site, and I wish to pay and enhance the board's features. I have looked at overgrow.com and the karma hack is real cool.

My other alternative is to use the star hack, but it just denotes the number of posts with more/different stars. It's more or less a visual interpretation of the Titles.

It's cool too, but it's different.

[ToraTora!]

Originally posted by Nicholas Brown
Tubedoggs hacks are very cool hacks and I get to see them a lot earlier than most of you do :p

I think all Kev's hacks have been great! :)


give credit where credit is due...many of the fine features we now have on standard issued vb's, are his doing.

I would also like to comment on the accusations presented here as well against synx. He was honest enought to tell overgrow about his situation with that girl and the proposed code, so why would he go giving it away as a cheat or liar. did you ever stop and think, that the person that the hack was installed for (the girl) gave it away, thus including snyx's licence info....I mean, it was his copy...

i have worked pretty closely with snyx, and i have had nothing to worry about with his honesty or integrety. He has always asked if he could use any of my hacks, ideas, templates...etc...and has never give any of them out to anybody else....this is coming also from a person who in the past, offered me total access to his server, while our boards were down. That is pretty trusting dont you think>? Pretty nice of the guy i might add, considering i could of shut down any facet of his freinds sites, his site, and made life a living hell for him if i were that type of person.
Point being, he is a trusting person, and honest. if he wasnt honest with you overgrow, he would of never told you about the situation with that girl.

[Dalius]

Damn Cheap !()%*#

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[hacker]

All I'm asking, does anyone know whether Overgrow is interested to sell his hack anymore? I hate to see it go to waste when I clearly have a great use for my board.

[bitbender]

I agree with overgrows position. I was contacted about giving it away, and I refused. It was worth MORE than the purchase price for me! Not to mention the spurned ones registered all sorts of vulgar names on my site until I prevented them from doing so further. Now I see they took their immaturity public. Pity.

Those that ripped him off have their OWN special karma about them. One day in the real world they will find out what low character gets in the real busines world! Theft is just that, theft. Probably the same type who steal from their parents, I presume.

Cheers, OG!!

[maverick1236]

im glad i did-nice coding....
SYNX-Tora Tora's right-i dont blame you-just spur of the moment anger
i dont have all the facts-sorry

[hacker]

Originally posted by hacker
All I'm asking, does anyone know whether Overgrow is interested to sell his hack anymore? I hate to see it go to waste when I clearly have a great use for my board.

Does anyone have the answer to the above? Does anyone know? If so, I would appreaciate it if someone could enlighten me or know how to contact Overgrow besides the webmaster@overgrow.com email which I have tried.

[BradC]

He might be busy.. or not around.. like maybe out of the office for the week or for a couple of weeks on vacation... or just might be not replying to certain emails.. not saying from individuals.. but about different things.. I mean we all reserve the right .. to reply or not to reply.. :)

just suggestions.. cause I don't know.

[hacker]

Originally posted by BradC
He might be busy.. or not around.. like maybe out of the office for the week or for a couple of weeks on vacation... or just might be not replying to certain emails.. not saying from individuals.. but about different things.. I mean we all reserve the right .. to reply or not to reply.. :)

just suggestions.. cause I don't know.

I really hope that this is the case. I tried to pm also, no luck. Anyway, I'll check back once in a while before giving up all hope. :(

[Sinecure]

Overgrow has the right to refuse anyone business. If you dont like the fact that you can get what you want, its something your going to have to deal with, thats life! Overgrow is a very nice guy, I asked him a few questions when I couldn't get a certain feature working on my board. He responded with more then 1 suggestion and was nice enough to give me the code he uses on his own board! I respect his decision to not let anyone else have this great hack.

Synx is also a close friend of mine. He is one of the most trustworthy people I know. He has always asked before using, and he actually said "Thanks", after using my button set. Something that NO ONE ELSE has done, even after close to 500 downloads! Just a thanks is enough to make feel as though my efforts are appreciated. If synx ever asked for help he has my full support!

[snyx]

thanks Sinecure!
I donno what to say without stepping on any toes
cuz I have been "warned" so yeah

thanks man, good to know I still got some buddys out there.
snyx

btw tora, I never gave out the zip file man!
I mearly installed it!

I paied for 1.5 licences, and I told overgrow I would pay him the rest, then he jumped on me.

BUT PLEASE! Leave it, ALONE! Overgrow has, why can't everyone else? Someone, ANYONE, please, PLEASE close this thread!

Its pointless!

[Sinecure]

I agree, save both overgrow and synx from being the victim of people jumping to conclusions. Close the thread..