View Full Version : Real world benefits of switching to VPS
Okay so I'm with Vidahost on a shared plan at the moment (have to say they're excellent by the way), so good in fact if you PM I'll reply back with a 10% coupon code
Anyway I've been with them for 3 years now and as I've learnt more I've started to outgrow the shared hosting that I have, in short there are limitations to what I can do with my space. For example I would like to swap in digital point's sphynx search and like to try some form of caching too.
So what I want to know before I really consider switching from them is, is it really worth it.
At the moment I get 25Gb/Files, 100GB/Bandwidth, One2One support R1 Soft backup every 4 hours with a 2 week history. In the last year I can hand on heart say that I've had total downtime of less than 20 minutes. That's pretty good huh especially at £9.99, VPS minimum I can see is at about £15 starting but I'm not sure what specs I should go for.
Help please.
vbresults
06-25-2011, 01:30 AM
So what I want to know before I really consider switching from them is, is it really worth it.
I would like to swap in digital point's sphynx search and like to try some form of caching too.
Is it worth it? :)
TBH no. I hate when people smugly turn a question back round :p
+ I'd lose cPanel for Plesk
Having the automatic backups is a huge bonus and I'm not sure I'd forgive myself if I lost everything
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How much RAM would you need to comfortably run vBulletin?
Videx
06-26-2011, 12:56 AM
How much RAM would you need to comfortably run vBulletin?Being faced with this problem myself, I've been doing some reading. I found an old post at vb.com that says they were running a busy board with 512mb, so I guess that's a minimum.
But for $30 USD/mo my host includes 1gb ram and Cpanel managed hosting, so that's what I'm looking at right now. Their basic VPS ($15USD/mo) also does not include managed hosting or Cpanel and is only 512mb.
I don't think my host includes any backups, but that doesn't matter as I like to keep backups here, not there anyway, so I download my db daily. And I can still live with monthly Cpanel backups as I'm doing now.
Which host are you with at the moment that's offering $30 a month. Are you State side. UK prices seem considerably more expensive sigh.
The back ups is an issue for me, I honestly couldn't commit to downloading a back up every day. What I was thinking was keeping a bare minimum shared hosting account open and replicating the database to that via the config file. I think there's a slave db option so that could potentially solve that one.
The other issue is my confidence being able to successfully move to a new host with minimum downtime.
Would really see a performance gain from switching? I'm going to email my current host and ask for some stats, I'll post back the response.
Videx
06-26-2011, 03:59 PM
No, I just checked and WHB (http://www.webhostingbuzz.co.uk/web-hosting.php) doesn't offer VPS in the UK.
You should be backing up your db daily! There's no "commitment" involved once you have it set up. A cron script compresses it in the morning, and my desktop task scheduler FTPs it to home at noon. Once a month I go in and delete all but the last couple and at the same time use Cpanel to manually do a full site backup.
The folly of depending on the host came home a couple years ago when we were suspended. Although we were quickly reinstated, I learned my lesson. If we had to move to a new host at that point, all the backups in the world stored at the host would have been totally useless.
No, I just checked and WHB (http://www.webhostingbuzz.co.uk/web-hosting.php) doesn't offer VPS in the UK.
You should be backing up your db daily! There's no "commitment" involved once you have it set up. A cron script compresses it in the morning, and my desktop task scheduler FTPs it to home at noon. Once a month I go in and delete all but the last couple and at the same time use Cpanel to manually do a full site backup.
The folly of depending on the host came home a couple years ago when we were suspended. Although we were quickly reinstated, I learned my lesson. If we had to move to a new host at that point, all the backups in the world stored at the host would have been totally useless.
Yeah I know I *should* but I couldn't do a set up like you at the moment anyway as I'm relying on my GF lappy for internet access at the moment, apart from my phone that is.
Look mate I got a quote for a fully managed VPS either 1GB of Ram or 2Gb. Seems like a good quote to me but still not sure on spec. No one is giving a definitive (not that I can see) as to what I actually need.
I plan on swapping Sphinx search in and getting some memcache going so I'm thinking I'll need two GB. My current host reckoned for my forum I would need a bare minimum of 1.
The quotes you got, where they for unmanaged?
Videx
06-26-2011, 07:39 PM
No, the $30USD/mo is managed, with Cpanel. I just noticed though it's 512mb "guaranteed ram" and 1gb "burstable ram".
What they asking for 1GB and 2GB just so I can compare and do they include daily backups, mine are throwing in R1.
Videx
06-26-2011, 10:44 PM
I gave their link in post 6. No idea what "R1" is.
Boofo
06-26-2011, 10:49 PM
I am on a VPS from ServInt (http://www.servint.net/vps.php). It is a little more but they have more disc space and bandwidth as well as excellent service all for $49 USD a month.
I gave their link in post 6. No idea what "R1" is.
From what I can see you're linking to shared hosting plans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R1Soft :)
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I am on a VPS from ServInt (http://www.servint.net/vps.php). It is a little more but they have more disc space and bandwidth as well as excellent service all for $49 USD a month.
You're on Essential VPS?
Have you ran into any limits with the RAM, do you have any caching etc enabled?
:)
Zachery
06-26-2011, 11:01 PM
DO NOT give up cPanel.
I'm currently with ASO (http://www.asmallorange.com), there is an affilate link on geekydesigns.com (http://geekydesigns.com) if you're so inclined.
They've provided great support. I'm currently on a cloud vps.
Downsides of almost any vps/dedicated server is backups you're on your own. But you now have 100% complete control over your software on the server.
This is the link to what Videx is talking about is anyone is interested http://www.webhostingbuzz.com/vps-web-hosting.php
That's a good deal TBH.
There is a huge difference in pricing between the UK and States even adjusting for conversion. If I could get the rates you guys are paying I'd be paying ++++ all. Take for example https://order.webhostingbuzz.com/order/details/7712 for roughly $50, over here I'm paying $100+. Granted the hardware is better I seem to be getting offered is better and there's no mention of backups but what really causes the cost difference?
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DO NOT give up cPanel.
I'm currently with ASO (http://www.asmallorange.com), there is an affilate link on geekydesigns.com (http://geekydesigns.com) if you're so inclined.
They've provided great support. I'm currently on a cloud vps.
Downsides of almost any vps/dedicated server is backups you're on your own. But you now have 100% complete control over your software on the server.
Zach, I've got another thread in this forum for a quote I've been given. They've thrown everything in for me most importantly R1Soft, does it seem like a good deal?
Zachery
06-26-2011, 11:07 PM
Who with?
Videx
06-26-2011, 11:25 PM
Glancing at R1Soft, it looks more like software than some sort of free service. i.e., You'll have to pay extra to keep that data in the cloud.
Boofo
06-26-2011, 11:29 PM
You're on Essential VPS?
Have you ran into any limits with the RAM, do you have any caching etc enabled?
:)
No problems at all with the ram. I used to have Xcache running but took it off as it messed up something I wanted to show in real time. But the server handles it fine. And their support is top-notch. The nice thing about it is you can upgrade only when you need to.
Glancing at R1Soft, it looks more like software than some sort of free service. i.e., You'll have to pay extra to keep that data in the cloud.
Yeah it's chargable but they've chucked it on for free.
Lynne
06-26-2011, 11:56 PM
DO NOT give up cPanel.
Why not? I've never had cPanel on any of my servers. I do have webmin on one of mine right now, but only use it to easily read/delete all the spam email we get.
Zachery
06-27-2011, 01:44 AM
Why not? I've never had cPanel on any of my servers. I do have webmin on one of mine right now, but only use it to easily read/delete all the spam email we get.
If I had to choose between cPanel and plesk, the answer is cPanel. If I had to choose between plesk or nothing, I'd choose nothing.
cPanel is pretty great for making your life easier in a lot of ways. Esp if you're going to have multiple websites on the same server. It just makes life easy.
Boofo
06-27-2011, 02:29 AM
I have to agree. CPanel is the only way to go. I used to have Direct Admin on another host and it was really bad compared to CPanel.
radiofranky
07-05-2011, 09:35 PM
I have to agree. CPanel is the only way to go. I used to have Direct Admin on another host and it was really bad compared to CPanel.
my VPS is located at Sweden. 1024RAM, 50G HD for $31 month
the only bad thing is no cpanel, everything need to be config in the raw way.
cheers,
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