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HellRZR
02-24-2011, 01:54 PM
Starting a new community, havent used VBulletin in many years and noticed many changes.
I am wondering, is it worth purchasing the CMS portion? Is the CMS better than lets say VBadvanced?

Also, if I purchase the publishing suite, are they skins (themes) easily avalaible?

thanks for the help...

BirdOPrey5
02-24-2011, 05:17 PM
Using the VB CMS over VB Advanced will be a matter of opinion, but there are other advantages for buying the Suite over the Forum Only package including better support that should also figure into your decision.

As for styles, there are a number available for download in the 4.x Styles (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=247) section. Style versions are more specific in 4.x then they were in older versions so you'll be best using a style that exactly matches your specific version, or at least very close to it. You wouldn't even try to use a style for 4.0.1 for example on 4.1.2.

Smiler2009
02-24-2011, 05:33 PM
Can't say how it compares with vBAdvanced but if you are thinking it is anything like Joomla or Drupal for ease of use and features (like me at the pre-sale) then think again. By those standards it is rudimentary at best. I know, I know, I should have waited for the reports to come in before I jumped.

Hoping and praying it gets better because it is a bear to work with although a single login is nice (only thing that is).

Jeff.

cpvrx
02-25-2011, 06:14 AM
Starting a new community, havent used VBulletin in many years and noticed many changes.
I am wondering, is it worth purchasing the CMS portion? Is the CMS better than lets say VBadvanced?

Also, if I purchase the publishing suite, are they skins (themes) easily avalaible?

thanks for the help...

If you're looking to build more content outside your forums, then I'd recommend the CMS. I haven't checked out vBadvanced, so I can't speak on that.

buchanan.bryan
02-25-2011, 05:23 PM
I wish they'd just work on the forum vs. adding an entire CMS to spread improvements even more thin. No way they'll ever catch up with any other CMS already mentioned, and just by trying, they're taking attention away from the forum.

Brandon Sheley
02-25-2011, 05:29 PM
I don't think the CMS is really that great, but I do like the blogs.

fanyap
02-25-2011, 06:00 PM
vBCMS is terrible, but get the Suite.

NLPLegacy
02-28-2011, 03:59 PM
Don't buy Suite, it sucks. I suggest downloading 3.8.x instead. vBulletin screwed up vB 4 major since the new owners can't do anything

thecore762
08-18-2011, 03:54 AM
I bought suite, terrible mistake, I went back to forums only.
I am looking to use a custom CMS....the vB CMS is nowhere near gold...
Editing or updating CMS is terrible, they need to make it easy to edit like vBAdvanced..
Worst piece of software I've had to deal in a long time.

frankw
08-18-2011, 11:31 PM
the cms is no good, not friendly to you or seo

cm.
08-19-2011, 02:17 PM
No it's not worth it.

I'm currently using a joomla/vbulletin hybrid but I am moving to IPB soon.I bought the suite hoping for symmetry across the site but vB CMS is so archaic I gave up and went back to joomla. I love joomla but the integrated forums suck, IPB seems to be a nice medium between a good forum and a good CMS that has a single log-in without using a bridge.

BSMedia
08-19-2011, 07:26 PM
No it's not worth it.

I'm currently using a joomla/vbulletin hybrid but I am moving to IPB soon.I bought the suite hoping for symmetry across the site but vB CMS is so archaic I gave up and went back to joomla. I love joomla but the integrated forums suck, IPB seems to be a nice medium between a good forum and a good CMS that has a single log-in without using a bridge.

IPB Is a pretty good solution, also a XenForo and Wordpress solution is great too!

thecore762
08-22-2011, 05:19 AM
Wordpress is great.
I honestly think CMS still somewhat beta stage.

8thos
08-23-2011, 09:42 AM
Just got done attempting to integrate Joomla's JFusion vbulletin plugin with vb4.1.4.

Turns out there's a bug they are still working on so it's not working. Will have to figure out something else.

vbresults
08-23-2011, 03:17 PM
The OP* has already bought the CMS. :p

8thos
08-23-2011, 05:57 PM
Okay. I just researched a Drupal bridge and none of them work for vb4.1 series.

That includes vbDrupal, Drupal VB and Drupaltin.

bremereric
08-24-2011, 02:22 AM
Nothing was there when the owner upgraded to 4.1.3....The front page sucked because it only had articles explaining how to publish articles and such. I use it now to attrack new members..I placed some articles on there and the front page has about 30 pictures of our members cars...I didn't buy it but I like it and it doesn't clutter up the forum with side bars. I do not use and will never use CSS on my site..I opened up a advertising forum for people to post their legit businesses and approve there posts after checking them out. M2C

8thos
10-01-2011, 02:08 AM
You should use Wordpress as your CMS. http://www.the8thlegion.com/threads/20043-Wordpress-As-vBulletin4-Homepage

S S0DEN
10-01-2011, 07:14 AM
I have done the Wordpress and Joomla to Vbulletin bridges, but I like the VBCMS once you get into it and learn your way around.

http://sodenbowl.com

Magnumutz
10-01-2011, 05:38 PM
I have done the Wordpress and Joomla to Vbulletin bridges, but I like the VBCMS once you get into it and learn your way around.

http://sodenbowl.com
Sorry for the offtopic, but you should have your copyright text visible.
It's one of vB's rules.

JacquiiDesigns
10-06-2011, 05:02 PM
IS the CMS worth it?

IMO no! I would never purchase a vB 4.x publishing suite license just because the 'cms' is included. It's clunky and overrated.

WP is good enough, but sometimes may be difficult to style to look exactly like your forum. I prefer Subdreamer CMS (http://subdreamer.com) which I have used for my forum at http://jpicforum.info -- From what I understand - SD now supports user login integration with the 4.x series vBulletin. :)

J.

thecore762
10-10-2011, 07:23 AM
I agree with what he said ^.
Save your money and get vBadvanced. Tons of possibilities with it!
User friendly setup, easy to manage and maintain.

JacquiiDesigns
10-10-2011, 07:48 AM
It's actually "she" https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/
I agree though = vBadvanced (http://vbadvanced.com) is sweetness! I use it for side columns on both of my forums. It's probably the best free modification available for vBulletin.

J.

btw = nice looking forum you have there core

thecore762
10-12-2011, 01:17 AM
Opps, sorry J http://www.mecho.com.au/wp-includes/images/embarrassed-smiley.jpg

and thanks :)

Yep, comparing the CMS options I do agree the vB CMS is more powerful but vBadvanced is so much easier to manage, the integration is seamless and the plugin is well supported.
Brian did a great job creating vBadvanced and hopefully he keeps supporting it. I love his products.
If you can do without Blog then vBadvanced is the way to go.
You have nothing to lose, and it's free.

blind-eddie
10-12-2011, 03:52 AM
Don't buy Suite, it sucks. I suggest downloading 3.8.x instead. vBulletin screwed up vB 4 major since the new owners can't do anything

I am speechless! This has got to be the best post ever written & shared on the this site.
I think I am going to edit the words a bit and use it in my sig, if that is OK with you?

thecore762
10-12-2011, 05:47 AM
Trust me, if you know what you are doing CMS is great, but you will need a lot of skills to be able to accomplish something like this:
http://www.united-forum.de/news/
http://www.nationofblue.com/

I still think CMS has long ways to go.
I bought CMS, but I am not using it because for me it's a lot of work and it's very confusing the whole thing.

I hope they make CMS a bit easier to configure.
Right now, it will take you a lot of time to configure things and even at that point it may not look like the way you want it to.

utomo
12-18-2011, 08:52 AM
I hope the vbulletin listening to what user complain and try to make better CMS and hopefully it will make more money for them, and more happy to user who purchase the vbulletin publisher

bremereric
12-21-2011, 04:55 AM
I am new and not confused by it...I worked on the home page for two nights and got it done.

TheLastSuperman
12-21-2011, 07:13 PM
Do you pay extra for Vbulletin Advanced?

No, it's a free Content Management Portal System i.e. CMPS available at http://www.vbadvanced.com/ :cool:.

Alfa1
12-22-2011, 05:27 AM
Nothing has changed, except some bug fixes. Theres still 300 queries, no inline moderation tools, no notifications, no content types, no portal page functions, comments are still in the forum, editor workflow is missing, code is SEO suicide, the design is still problematic.

But if you just want to run a few articles, do not have much traffic and do not want your community to submit articles, then its alright.

Alfa1
12-23-2011, 12:14 AM
It depends on your needs. vba is a portal system. vbcms is an article system.none of them can be compared to a real cms like for example joomla. If you need a portal system, then use vba.

Alfa1
12-23-2011, 10:11 AM
A portal page is a a home page, which shows the users featured / important content from the rest of the site or links to that content. Mostly using blocks / modules.

What you need is a real CMS like Joomla or Wordpress and can not be done with vbCMS nor vbadvanced out of the box. It is possible to hack vba / vbcms enough to show whatever html content you want.

BirdOPrey5
12-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Joomla is always free.

BirdOPrey5
12-23-2011, 10:14 PM
No, there is no Joomla-VB bridge... it would be a major pain to keep a consistent theme across the two.

Static pages are pretty easy in the vBulletin CMS, if that is what you need it for you'll be fine with the suite. I haven't used vBAdvanced for VB4 so I don't know if it's easy(er) then vB CMS or not.

BirdOPrey5
12-24-2011, 12:45 AM
I would say it would be extremely difficult to make joomla look like vbulletin or vice-versa. The navbar, breadcrumbs, footer- this would all need serious custom programming and designing. If you intend to use joomla forget about having the same style across both platforms. You can maybe have the same colors but it will never look like the same product.