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AcidX
12-20-2010, 10:00 PM
NOTE:
This modification works for all versions of vBulletin.

DESCRIPTION:
Imagine if you could monitor every time someone copies and pastes something off your site. To make it even better, what if you can insert a backlink when you text is pasted somewhere else. It?s a great way for attribution, tracking what content is popular, and gaining some inbound links.

Tynt Insight allows you to do this. It?s a free service and there is even a slick reporting dashboard. You simply signup, generate your unique bit of JavaScript and insert it into your site.

Each time a user pastes content from your forum into an email, blog or website, Tynt automatically adds an URL link back to your site?s original content. When someone clicks that URL, they are directed back to your site and see the original content.

This drives incremental traffic to your site when your content is shared without your knowledge while maintaining a consistent user experience. Make link-backs to your content effortless for readers and gain new insight into user engagement with Tynt Insight. With this modification, you can bring up to 40% more visitors to ceratin pages on your forum.

INSTALLATION GUIDE:

1) Register your domain (https://id.tynt.com/account/sign_up);
2) Go to "Link setup" and customize your attribution link;
3) Click on "Get your script" to get the code;
4) Go to your forum admin panel > Open Styles & templates > Edit header > paste the code on top of everything > Save.

Optionally, you can test the code here (http://id.tynt.com/script/your_script), or try it out yourself! :)

VIDEO DEMO:
You can find the video demo here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7gyRb77lHw).

FReeSTER
12-21-2010, 03:00 PM
Great Mod Thanks

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 04:01 PM
Interesting that he decides to "release" this as a "template mod" 5 days after I made a thread about it.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255344

GamerPerfection
12-21-2010, 04:05 PM
Great Mod, but I just tested it and there is nothing to prevent the person copying it from deleting it when they post it in an email or on a forum etc. Therefore the fact the person can copy / paste and REMOVE the link makes this a fail mod. Sadly.

Interesting that he decides to "release" this as a "template mod" 5 days after I made a thread about it.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255344I don't have permission to view that page. :(

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 04:09 PM
That's why I posted it there but since it's out in the open now, here you go

OldSchoolDSL
12-21-2010, 04:21 PM
Interesting that he decides to "release" this as a "template mod" 5 days after I made a thread about it.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255344

*wonders where this points to*

Can't seem to see this either. Is there a hidden place on the site?!?

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 04:22 PM
There sure is

Private Coders Discussions
(1 Viewing)
A forum for Coders to discuss vBulletin modification with other coders.

Here's a little peek of what's in there for all you non coders.

OldSchoolDSL
12-21-2010, 05:17 PM
There sure is

Private Coders Discussions
(1 Viewing)
A forum for Coders to discuss vBulletin modification with other coders.

Here's a little peek of what's in there for all you non coders.

I really wish this part was viewable.

I understand and can even respect the need to keep your average end user from mindlessly posting in there (oh boy, can I ever understand that).

But it would sure help those like myself who do some "light coding" a world of good to review whats in there (read only). It surely can help a lot of others (myself included) to learn a thing or two. I think it may even help some of us produce more mods or even templates (themes) for vBulletin to learn something now and again.


EDIT: Installed, but I would not "count" this as MOD... More as someone pointing everyone to a 3rd party resource and even then, I'd give credit to extreme-gaming (assuming AcidX could have read the original source)

cyberchief
12-21-2010, 05:22 PM
Well, I sure feel left out now... lol

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 05:41 PM
Not a problem, I decided to release it under my name for other versions of vbulletin where it belongs, due to the evidence in this thread.

I really wish this part was viewable.

I understand and can even respect the need to keep your average end user from mindlessly posting in there (oh boy, can I ever understand that).

But it would sure help those like myself who do some "light coding" a world of good to review whats in there (read only). It surely can help a lot of others (myself included) to learn a thing or two. I think it may even help some of us produce more mods or even templates (themes) for vBulletin to learn something now and again.


EDIT: Installed, but I would not "count" this as MOD... More as someone pointing everyone to a 3rd party resource and even then, I'd give credit to extreme-gaming (assuming AcidX could have read the original source)

BadgerDog
12-21-2010, 05:45 PM
Registered domain, installed and testing ... :up:

Interesting concept ..... :)

I notice that when our members use copy and pastes within our own site, this mod picks up and shows the attribution data as well ....

I wonder how much this slows down a site, or if their server goes down, does it drag down ours as well?

Regards,
Doug

AcidX
12-21-2010, 05:52 PM
Interesting that he decides to "release" this as a "template mod" 5 days after I made a thread about it.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255344

So, if you made a thread about it, that automatically means that you're the only one that can publish the use of Tynt on vBulletin? Give us a break mate, and chill, i've never even read your thread before, nor do I ever read the Private coders forum - I just use Tynt on all my sites and thought it would be a nice idea to share this interesting tool.

It is a mod, a simple and useful third party integration mod.

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Tell you what, you give me credit where credit is due and that'll be the end of that.

People don't just go running around stealing other peoples ideas over at vb.org.

AcidX
12-21-2010, 06:01 PM
I wonder how much this slows down a site, or if their server goes down, does it drag down ours as well?

Regards,
Doug
None. The script is located on tynt's servers. There is no additional load on your forum.

Not a problem, I decided to release it under my name for other versions of vbulletin where it belongs, due to the evidence in this thread.
Great, maybe you can get the proper attention now. Jesus Christs.

Tell you what, you give me credit where credit is due and that'll be the end of that.

People don't just go running around stealing other peoples ideas over at vb.org.
Please stop ruining the thread. And for the last time, stop convicting me of "stealing" something "yours". Basically, you're the one that copy/pasted the whole thread from me. Every single word. Now THAT - everyone can see. You really do leverage the benefit of copy/paste ;)

Moderators, please be kind and take proper actions.

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 06:03 PM
Oh I suppose it was just "coincidence" then that you "just so happened" to make this thread only a mere 5 days after what I posted in the linked thread found in the attachments and my earlier posts. :mad:

None. The script is located on tynt's servers. There is no additional load on your forum.


Great, maybe you can get the proper attention now. Jesus Christs.


Please stop ruining the thread. And for the last time, stop convicting me of "stealing" something "yours". Basically, you're the one that copy/pasted the whole thread from me. Every single word.

Moderators, please be kind and take proper actions.

AcidX
12-21-2010, 06:11 PM
Oh I suppose it was just "coincidence" then that you "just so happened" to make this thread only a mere 5 days after what I posted in the linked thread found in the attachments and my earlier posts. :mad:

It is coincidence, believe it or not.

And now that I saw your thread, I really don't like it that you decided it to "keep it secret". It's a free service, and you're not that only one that knows about it's use. I published the mod after searching for a similar thread in all the forums here on VB.org. The search did not provide any results. I respect other people's work. But this is NOT your work. It's a public and free service.

Hey everyone, clap your hands for "extreme-gaming" discovering Tynt first :claps_hands:

OldSchoolDSL
12-21-2010, 06:19 PM
Reported.

Respectfully, I'm going to let a MOD here decide this. We do not need the two of you arguing this out.

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 06:22 PM
Agreed, I already reported the first post some 20 minutes or so ago.

AcidX
12-21-2010, 06:25 PM
Reported.

Respectfully, I'm going to let a MOD here decide this. We do not need the two of you arguing this out.
That's the right thing to do. A MOD should definitely clean this mess up.

But we're not arguing. He is attacking me and accusing me of stealing a (guess what) FREE integration tool.

Let's see:
- He basically threw the "punch" and convinced me of stealing something free;
- He copied all the text (including thread name) from me after I posted the modification, and started posting new threads on all forums claiming this to me his mod;
- He's continuously ruining the thread with his "attention" comments;

I do not mind him "stealing" the whole mod from me and posting it on other VB version forums (because the users deserve this tool) - he does. Having attention problems is not what we need atm.

Martin9887
12-21-2010, 07:06 PM
Hi, this looks interesting but have a question.

Does it work for literally all content, from threads, posts, articles, etc? everything on the website?

Tagged for now and thanks for posting, AcidX. I had not seen this before!

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 07:09 PM
Yes it works for anything that can be copied, including images and text.

AcidX
12-21-2010, 07:26 PM
Hi, this looks interesting but have a question.

Does it work for literally all content, from threads, posts, articles, etc? everything on the website?

Tagged for now and thanks for posting, AcidX. I had not seen this before!

Yes. It works with basically anything copied from your forum that contains over 50 characters. Text, images, HTML code - regardless of it's location on the forum. That's why you need to add the script in the header.

You're welcome ;)

Paul M
12-21-2010, 08:19 PM
This is not really a modification, more of an article on how to use tynt. Moved to articles.

Gn_Snake
12-21-2010, 08:25 PM
Sorry,
I copied the code in the header of my template but the test always fails?

final kaoss
12-21-2010, 08:31 PM
I just looked at your source and the code appears waaaaaaay at the bottom. I'm pretty sure you put it in the footer by accident.

<script type="text/javascript">
if(document.location.protocol=='http:'){
var Tynt=Tynt||[];Tynt.push('a2WvsCdvar4jEradbi-bpO');Tynt.i={"ap":"Leggi tutto: ","as":"Articolo su Hardwaregame.it","t":true};
(function(){var s=document.createElement('script');s.async="async";s.type="text/javascript";s.src='http://tcr.tynt.com/ti.js';var h=document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];h.parentNode.insertBefore(s,h);})();
}
</script> <div class="google_adsense_footer" style="width:728px; margin:0 auto; padding-top:1em"> <script type="text/javascript"><!--
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google_ad_width = 728;
google_ad_height = 90;
google_ad_format = "728x90_as";
google_ad_type = "text_image";
google_ad_channel = "";
google_color_border = "";
google_color_bg = "";
google_color_link = "";
google_color_text = "";
google_color_url = "";
google_ui_features = "rc:6";
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OldSchoolDSL
12-21-2010, 08:35 PM
This is not really a modification, more of an article on how to use tynt. Moved to articles.

Thank you Paul M :)

AcidX
12-22-2010, 05:25 AM
This is not really a modification, more of an article on how to use tynt. Moved to articles.

Well, since this is not a modification, and we already have this thread as an article here - I suppose you should delete the other threads claiming to be a mod opened in vb 3.5 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255657), vb 3.6 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255656), vb 3.7 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255655) and vb 3.8 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255654) template modifications forum by extreme-gaming. No need of an article and 4 additional threads about it.

Thanks.

GamerPerfection
12-22-2010, 07:39 AM
Well, since this is not a modification, and we already have this thread as an article here - I suppose you should delete the other threads claiming to be a mod opened in vb 3.5 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255657), vb 3.6 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255656), vb 3.7 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255655) and vb 3.8 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=255654) template modifications forum by extreme-gaming. No need of an article and 4 additional threads about it.

Thanks.Stop trying to win one over on someone else. You just look childish.

Now, as for this mod, whatever you want to call it, it's a good concept but it's a big fail. If someone copies content from your site to post on their own site or forum etc, then who in the hell is going to keep the link to the original site? I can tell you that no-one will. Until you provide a method to prevent people from removing the link this will be pointless.

AcidX
12-22-2010, 08:51 AM
Stop trying to win one over on someone else. You just look childish.Win what? Do you really think there should be 4 more threads abot this? I certainly don't.

Now, as for this mod, whatever you want to call it, it's a good concept but it's a big fail. If someone copies content from your site to post on their own site or forum etc, then who in the hell is going to keep the link to the original site? I can tell you that no-one will. Until you provide a method to prevent people from removing the link this will be pointless.
Certainly. But the point of the mod is not to protect your content from being copied, but to gain more visitors and gather statistics. Watch the demo video. You missed the point.

GamerPerfection
12-22-2010, 09:09 AM
Win what? Do you really think there should be 4 more threads abot this? I certainly don't.

Certainly. But the point of the mod is not to protect your content from being copied, but to gain more visitors and gather statistics. Watch the demo video. You missed the point.I never said anything about protecting content did I so stop assuming what I mean.

No-one on the internet will copy / paste and leave the link back to the original site when they are putting it on their own site or forum.

How can this gain more vistors when people will just remove the link when they paste the content?

Gn_Snake
12-22-2010, 10:25 AM
I just looked at your source and the code appears waaaaaaay at the bottom. I'm pretty sure you put it in the footer by accident.

<script type="text/javascript">
if(document.location.protocol=='http:'){
var Tynt=Tynt||[];Tynt.push('a2WvsCdvar4jEradbi-bpO');Tynt.i={"ap":"Leggi tutto: ","as":"Articolo su Hardwaregame.it","t":true};
(function(){var s=document.createElement('script');s.async="async";s.type="text/javascript";s.src='http://tcr.tynt.com/ti.js';var h=document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];h.parentNode.insertBefore(s,h);})();
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Hello,
I put the code in the header and the test said I failed. I put the code in the footer perhaps thinking that had to be put there, but again failed.
I own 4 templates, I put the code only in the default one to try, perhaps I have them all for the positive test?

BadgerDog
12-22-2010, 10:41 AM
I own 4 templates, I put the code only in the default one to try, perhaps I have them all for the positive test?

I had to do that and it passed the test fine....

Regards,
Doug

Gn_Snake
12-22-2010, 07:50 PM
I inserted the code into all my templates in the header.
The test always says failed
Any idea?

GamerPerfection
12-23-2010, 07:20 AM
I inserted the code into all my templates in the header.
The test always says failed
Any idea?First piece of advice.... remove the animated snow.... it makes your site incredibly slow and I nearly couldn't be bothered to look at you problem.

However, I had a look at your source code but couldn't se anything wrong straight off. Would you be able to enable the template labels so that when we look at your source code it shows what templates each section are?

Like mine: http://www.gamerperfection.com - view my source code and search for 'tynt' and you will see that it shows that it is in the header template.

If you do that then it will make reading your source code a lot easier.

BadgerDog
12-23-2010, 10:29 AM
I just noticed that their site install instructions for vBulletin differ from what is posted here, including the use of <vb:literal> and saying to put the code into the footer? :confused:

See attached pic..

Regards,
Doug

GamerPerfection
12-23-2010, 10:40 AM
I inserted the code into all my templates in the header.
The test always says failed
Any idea?Maybe it's something to do with vBSEO, because I don't have vBSEO.

Gn_Snake
12-23-2010, 07:33 PM
You're right, the snow is annoying ... but it's Christmas! :rolleyes:

Quote BadgerDog on the site instructions say to put it in the footer.
However, I also tried in footer (only one template) and does not work


I use vBSEO, so I can not activate it?

GamerPerfection
12-24-2010, 03:57 AM
I use vBSEO, so I can not activate it?I don't know for sure, i'm just saying that it could be related to vBSEO.

BirdOPrey5
12-26-2010, 05:24 PM
With all do respect to extreme-gaming and Acidx the first person to mention this service on vBulletin.org was DieselMinded back in November 2009 - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1910194&postcount=64

For what it's worth I also put it in my footer because I didn't want the whole page to wait for it to load.

BadgerDog
01-04-2011, 12:16 PM
Can some explain to me the benefit (pro or con) of additionally checking (turning ON) the second option below?

Tynt Insight allows you to track how many visitors are coming to your site by monitoring links copied from the address bar.

1. Enable Address Bar Tracking

2. Exclude Tracking Homepage

We use an add-on which works really well, even under 4.04, that converts ..

External Link Titles, retrieve descriptive titles for URLs
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=146679

I think Tynt's ## hash stuff is getting in the way of that when links are copied internally from one place to another on our site.

By the way, how can we STOP Tynt from doing any tracking on copies that stay just on our site? We're not interested in tracking data on those, just external copying.

Thanks for any feedback .. :)

Regards,
Doug

BirdOPrey5
01-04-2011, 12:48 PM
The con is, as you pointed out, it adds that hash code to your links which I don't like so I don't use that option.

There would be no way for tynt to know at the time info is copied if the user intends to paste it internally or not so it will never be able to disable itself for internal linking.

What would be possible would be a mod that scans all new posts for internal links and removes the hash if found but considering the limited use it may be hard to convince someone to make it.

A mod like AME (Automatic Media Embedder) could probably do this with the right settings.

BadgerDog
01-04-2011, 01:14 PM
The con is, as you pointed out, it adds that hash code to your links which I don't like so I don't use that option.


Thanks ... :)

I'm not sure this thing is adding that much value anyway, but I'll kill that "address bar" option for now and see what happens....

Regards,
Doug

BirdOPrey5
01-04-2011, 01:30 PM
In the last 7 days it says:

Content has left your site: 94 times
16 new visits
88 pageviews
22 new links

I really don't understand how they calculate the amount of times content has left the site- the act of copying and pasting can't possibly "trigger" anything for them to count.

Brandon Sheley
01-04-2011, 01:39 PM
Tell you what, you give me credit where credit is due and that'll be the end of that.

People don't just go running around stealing other peoples ideas over at vb.org.
This isn't a new idea, it's a script that's been around for a while.
I ran it on my site for the last year, I found it from the desiel guy post on my old forum which was sold november of 09, so it's not exactly a new idea :)
None. The script is located on tynt's servers. There is no additional load on your forum.

Even though it's hosted on their site, any script you add to your forum will infact slow it down some ;)
This is true with any script you add, even google analytics. :)
In the last 7 days it says:

Content has left your site: 94 times
16 new visits
88 pageviews
22 new links

I really don't understand how they calculate the amount of times content has left the site- the act of copying and pasting can't possibly "trigger" anything for them to count.

Even though it says 22 new links were made, it isn't exactly true.
If I was to simply go to your site and highlight, and control+c a chunk of text, it would show as a new link, even if I never pasted it on my site.

I actually removed this mod, I don't think it helped me much. Plus it was annoying when I would copy and past info from one thread to another on my site, it would show as a new link..

I removed this script because the slowness added to my site wasn't worth the few links it would pick up.

By all means, don't take my word for it, try it for yourself.
Maybe it'll be a good fit for your websites. (this isn't directed at anyone I quoted, just in general)

BadgerDog
01-04-2011, 02:38 PM
I actually removed this mod, I don't think it helped me much. Plus it was annoying when I would copy and past info from one thread to another on my site, it would show as a new link..

I removed this script because the slowness added to my site wasn't worth the few links it would pick up.


Upon reflection and looking at the stats I was getting, I agree... :up:

I think it's one of those "glossy" marketing things that sounds like a good idea, but lacks the right kind of implementation.

Anyway .. un-installed ..

Thanks for all the feedback from everyone ... :)

Regards,
Doug

BirdOPrey5
06-10-2016, 07:07 PM
FYI, I've had this installed for many years. In the last few days I noticed links in posts were no longer opening in a new tab, they would open in the current tab taking the user away from my forum. After a bunch of trouble shooting I finally tracked down the problem to the JavaScript supplied by tynt.com. I removed it and my links open in new tabs again.

Hopes this helps anyone with the same issue.