vBulleting 4.0 publishing suite mature enough yet?

[Ojlert]

Do you think that the 4.0 publishing suite is mature enough yet to be installed? I currently use minibb+wordpress but did pre-order the vBulletin publishing suite.

The 4.0.1 fixed 200 bugs and in the 4.0.2 release which is planned for February 4:th over 100 bugs will be fixed.

It is good that they fix so many bugs so quickly but it is a bit worrying that there seems to be many issues left to fix.

Would you recommend upgrading now from minibb+wordpress or would you recommend waiting a few months? Or maybe not upgrade at all and look at a different solution?

By the way is this site owned and operated by the vBulletin company or is it independent? Hmm, it says it is an official resource so I guess it's tied to the company..

[Marco van Herwaarden]

This site is owned by vBulletin Solutions and it targets functionality and designs beyond the default vBulletin software package.

For discussions and questions regarding the default vBulletin features you should post on the main company website www.vbulletin.com/forum (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum).

Please note that we are very open about the number of bugs (these also include usability issues) and the which bugs have been solved. Most of these bugs do not interfere greatly with the day to day operations of boards, or only apply to a specific setup. Most of these bugs are not clasified as severe.

In any case of a bug causing a security issue, a patch will be released immediatly.

Personally i would already migrate now and not wait any longer. Any production version released is considered stable enough to operate in a production version.

[Carnage]

Personally, i'll probably wait till 4.0.3; mearly because I have so many mods/skins to port.

I'd say wait until after 4.0.2 is released since its due in two days. Theres no point doing an install then having to upgrade 2 days later :) I'd probably go live with 4.0.2 if I didn't have so much testing/converting to do first.

[henrikhansen]

I wait at least 6 months before I upgrade my 3.8 site.
Yes, there are still a huge number of bugs but for new site I think
I will start with the 4 version.

[Digital Jedi]

Every release fixes bugs. If your sitting around waiting for a version that fixes bugs once and for all, you'd be waiting indefinitely. Once a release is stable, that means that the main day to day function of the software is stable, the core functionality. Mostly what's being worked on now is minor issues that only affect forums who's main goal might be tied to that function. But core-wise, it's as good to go as it's ever going to be.

[mousa19]

I think that issuing a new version is a solution to some problems with the previous version and that's how it is done

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I think that issuing a new version is a solution to some problems with the previous version and that's how it is done
Please stop posting senseless posts. They will be removed just as your previous 5 posts. Continuing with this behaviour might result in an infraction or ultimatly a ban from our forums.

[mousa19]

I think it must be tested before the version of the forums to solve their problems and thereby address the problem or any technical fault

[Wordplay]

since you're starting a new vbulletin forum i'd say go ahead and get started right now that vb 4.0.2 is out. there shouldn't be as many bugs to fix on 4.0.3 and the bugs fixed in 4.0.2 weren't anything that could have indangered a regular board in my opinion. even if you go live now with 4.0.2 you can always upgrade to 4.0.3 and later to 4.0.4+ without having to lose anything.

[BSMedia]

Do you think that the 4.0 publishing suite is mature enough yet to be installed? I currently use minibb+wordpress but did pre-order the vBulletin publishing suite.

The 4.0.1 fixed 200 bugs and in the 4.0.2 release which is planned for February 4:th over 100 bugs will be fixed.

It is good that they fix so many bugs so quickly but it is a bit worrying that there seems to be many issues left to fix.

Would you recommend upgrading now from minibb+wordpress or would you recommend waiting a few months? Or maybe not upgrade at all and look at a different solution?

By the way is this site owned and operated by the vBulletin company or is it independent? Hmm, it says it is an official resource so I guess it's tied to the company..

I wouldn't have a problem advising to use vBulletin4 over minibb, but there is no way I can sit here with a straight face and tell you to use vBulletin CMS over wordpress.

Well I could but I'd be lying.

Wordpress is light years ahead of vBCMS

[kall]

now that vb 4.0.2 is out..
Got a link to that?

As far as I can see, it's still coming out on the 4th.

[PixelFx]

4.0.2 unstable was released, install seemed good, haven't seen any major bugs yet, but still going through it. Just installed vbcredits II beta on it and no issues with that either, so far pretty happy with it. Thinking of upgrading our main vbc site to it when 4.0.2 goes gold, but we'll see how that goes.. With vbadvanced cmps 4.0 beta, it's really made me want to use vbulletin 4 now, over the standard cms system. But it's a matter of opion on your script tastes..

[Switch3130]

Not to piss off vBulletin, but just use microcms its FREE and appears to be doing the same job as the publishing suite.

[Mike Anime]

i am running 4.0.0 i plan my next upgrade when 4.0.2 is out to the public.

4.0.1 did fix some bug and made some others i have hopes 4.0.2 will be more user friendley.

@ switch why plugg a free software while keeping your current sig?
i would not someone like that working for me.

[Digital Jedi]

@ switch why plugg a free software while keeping your current sig?
i would not someone like that working for me.
microCMS is a content management system, not forum software.

[daveaite]

I saw microCMS, didn't like the layout as much as VB CMS. Anyways, The CMS is decent right now. Hoping they add functionality to have a background stylevars for it. Right now, whatever is the background of doc_background is the background of CMS.

[Ojlert]

If the demo is anything to go by the publishing suite is not ready to be used yet. I used it for like 5 minutes and have already found several issues ( http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php?issueid=36342 ).

The issues I found were very simple to find, they were almost the first thing that happened to me when I started using the publishing suite. I am surprised that such obvious issues still exists. I don't know if the demo is updated to the latest version but I guess it is..

I did like some aspects of the cms though.

[Ojlert]

It seems like the demo is being upgraded now. It is currently unavailable and says it's being upgraded. Maybe the upgrade will fix the issues I mentioned.

[Balazar]

I just installed 4.0.6 thinking it would be a great way to create a portal with a forum and store but I couldn't have been more wrong. It seems to lack many basic features still and needs a lot of polish to be anything close to vbadvanced let alone a replacement for other popular open source cms products. I would wait. I have it and I'm installing vbadvanced right now because it just isn't robust enough if you don't know php like the back of you hand.

[phpdesk]

Given the situation when some of us keep asking if vBulletin is mature enough while others complain about the frequent releases, I find it pretty hard for IB to please all. If you watch the changelogs with each point version of the product, you'll notice the amount of support and care it receives from the development crew.

I myself consider vB to be mature at its current stage, the few projects that I've worked on lately using the vBsuite package seem to be performing very well.

What impresses mostly is the running speed at large amounts of content so if your project consists of a 15-20 pages website, any of the available open-source content management systems would do. But if you have serious plans to make it big, vbulletin is definitely the platform to take a look at.

[Ninos]

But core-wise, it's as good to go as it's ever going to be.

Looking back on that post I would also find it funny if I wasn't so annoyed with IB/VB. It certainly was not good to go then, and still isn't now.

I myself consider vB to be mature at its current stage, the few projects that I've worked on lately using the vBsuite package seem to be performing very well.

What do you projects consist of? 5 forum members and 10 threads?

At the end of the day, if vB4.0.x is so "Good" then why isn't this site running it? No bullshit from the mods about upgrading will take time/hassle, if a product was really as good as 4.0.x is meant to be it would be done regardless.

[Alfa1]

There's still 1.685 bugs left, after all the releases we have recently seen. Here: CURRENT VBULLETIN BUG COUNT (http://tracker.vbulletin.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10329)

Mind that a very large part of websites have not migrated to vb4 yet, and it is likely that when they will more bugs will be found.

[phpdesk]

What do you projects consist of? 5 forum members and 10 threads?

Something around those lines, here's a copy and paste:

There are currently 61 users online. 9 members and 52 guests
Most users ever online was 143, 09-12-2010 at 02:37 AM.
Threads 27,935 Posts 296,069 Members 246,496 Active Members 2,364

[Alfa1]

Do you have a bug tracker on your site where members can post the vb4 bugs they encounter?