Miserable Users

[Paul M]

As of 23 Nov 2017 this modification has been withdrawn.

The ever popular "Miserable Users" modification.

Basically a way to really annoy anyone you don't want visiting your forum. Credit to Zzed for the original idea.

When classed as miserable, a member suffers ;

1. Slow response (time delay) on every page (20 to 60 seconds default).
2. A chance they will get the "server busy" message (50% by default).
3. A chance they will get redirected to another preset page (25% & homepage by default).
4. A chance they will simply get a blank page (25% by default).

If they get past all this okay, then they will be served up their proper page.

Note: All the above are set in vBulletin Options > Miserable Users.

To Install ;

Download the xml file to your pc and import it into vbulletin as a product.
Ceate your 'Miserable Users' usergroup and set the value of this group, and your preferred other settings, in the modifications settings (vBulletin Options > Miserable Users).


To make a member suffer just edit their profile - add them to the Miserable Users group (it will work as either the primary group or as a secondary group). There is also the option to set ip addresses.


History:

v4.0.1 : 24-Dec-2009 : Initial release for vb 4.0.0 Gold.
v4.0.2 : 20-Jan-2010 : Not released.
v4.0.3 : 26-Jan-2010 : Various updates.
v4.0.4 : 16-Feb-2010 : Fix server busy, phrase blank page message.
v4.0.5 : 18-Feb-2010 : Installer update.
v4.0.6 : 07-Mar-2010 : Changed the way the delay works.
v4.0.7 : 29-May-2010 : Fix error in upgrade section of install code.
v4.0.8 : 06-Nov-2010 : Install code updated.

v4.1.0 : 04-Dec-2010 : Updated for vBulletin 4.1.

v4.1.7.0 : 16-Oct-2011 : Updated for vBulletin 4.1.7.

v4.2.0.0 : 24-May-2012 : Updated for vBulletin 4.2.0.

[fayax]

lol pretty good mod. But why do we really need this.

But definitely funny as hell!

[Snug]

say you have a member that you hate and you dont wanna ban them because itll look bad on your part, :D i could find some use to this

any ways of using an ip address so it does it to non users too. i could really use this :P

[Paul M]

lol pretty good mod. But why do we really need this.

This has been around for 5+ years, and requested on each vb version upgrade.


any ways of using an ip address so it does it to non users too. i could really use this :PThis is built into it already, but wasnt mentioned in the main post so Ive added it.

[Gnoll]

Really good :) , i'll use it in future

lol pretty good mod. But why do we really need this.

But definitely funny as hell!

why you need , you add delay on Guests & members , if your forum is big enough you add Premium membership with no delay , or add only delay to Guests then say " Register and surf faster"

[radmoose]

I use parts of it for persistent spammers or bots that try to spider my site without following the ROBOTS.TXT and META data.

Thanks for updating it to 4.0.x!

[Toxic2]

Tks Paul, This is a handy add on, is it possible in the future to add Miserable AND clean-up? (i.e. all the spammer posts) as a extra bonus to the Mod?

Tks again.

[CThiessen]

Hi,
thanks for the Update.
This is on of the Add-ons on my List: "Must have before upgrade"

Mary X-Mas
Christian

[Bounce]

This is on of the Add-ons on my List: "Must have before upgrade"



ditto, :up: althou don't use this one :D

[Delilahs]

What phrases we do edit for unregistered users to log in which we can then add 'to surf faster, register now'

[Zaiaku]

Thx Paul, was waiting for an update on this.

[kf4eok]

Thx Paul, was waiting for an update on this for I was using it on 3.8.4 and loved it.
marked as installed

[alfanexus]

Thanks, the perfect "moderating" tool for trols and other kind of people who otherwise would kill the forum.

This is the single most important mod for me, so now I can upgrade to vb4, thanks :)

[RDX1]

Great, thanks for the hack as always!

[Merjawy]

have used this for long time.. some of my users HATE me I wonder why :) .. I love it

Thanks Paul

[Robru]

Thank you for this upgrade to 4.X Paul :):)

[technishawn]

awesome! One of my most favorite mods :) Thank you thank you thank you!

[albibak]

Paul M,

Thanks for the mod
Please, find in attachment the french translation
You can find the french topic for this mod here: http://forum.vbulletin-fr.org/modifications.php?do=showmod&modid=1082

[j-n]

gooooooooooooooooood

[LuckyNeo]

Thank you! You are the best! My proposition is rename this mod in "Inglourious Basterds" :D:D:D Really, very usefull mod!

[kpa4941]

I have used this hack in the past before, but on the upgrade to 4.0.0 and this hack, I get this error message on the server redirect while under a miserable user's account:

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [path]/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code:23) in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 3736

[Vaupell]

i think its being used on vbulletin.org
site has been sooo slow the last couple of days..

[Paul M]

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [path]/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code:23) in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 3736
This suggests that something you have installed is inteferring. Its fine for me on my test forum.

[RedWingFan]

Most "Miserable" mod ever! :D

Long-time user, back before it was written as a "product". My mods love it! Thanks Paul!

[sportsoutlaw]

Thanks for continuing this mod!

[LadyBeth]

If you need a user in time out because they tend to be troublemakers in a cycle but are otherwise popular and add to the forums....

[GrossKopf]

I love this mod. I don't have much of a user for it because I rarely have a troublesome forum member, but it's really looks like a lot of fun!

[cosy]

on the older version u got more features
1. Slow response (time delay) on every page (20 to 60 seconds default).
2. A chance they will get the "server busy" message (50% by default).
3. A chance that no search facilities will be available (75% by default).
4. A chance they will get redirected to another preset page (25% & homepage by default).
5. A chance they will simply get a blank page (25% by default).
6. Post flood limit increased by a defined factor (10 times by default).
7. If they get past all this okay, then they will be served up their proper page

[Paul M]

Correct.

I removed the search and flood limit as they are fairly useless, the main 4 are more than adequate to do the job required.

[3DUInc]

hahaa Thanks :)

[junaid]

where I can edit messages "server busy"

[Paul M]

Its a standard vb phrase.

[murekhalir]

yesss my favorite mod returns!

[Fusion2]

OMG, this would be so wicked cruel :)

What a prank to play on friends... LOL

[Zaiaku]

The flood limit was good for people who post really fast all the time but for anyone that takes there time the post limit wouldn't even afect them.

[Paul M]

Its impossible to post fast if you use the delay function.

[Bergler]

Is there a way you could just enter the user ID of a member to make this mod work?

[Videx]

Is there a way you could just enter the user ID of a member to make this mod work?How would that be any easier than simply adding them to the miserable usergroup?

[Paul M]

Is there a way you could just enter the user ID of a member to make this mod work?
No. Thats never going to happen.

[Bergler]

How would that be any easier than simply adding them to the miserable usergroup?

Well if you have set usergroups, why would you want a miserable usergroup? You might as well just ban them then and not even use this hack!! Maybe I am wrong but It would be nice to use this on members without them knowing! If you make a special usergroup, they will know somethings up!! My 2 cents

No. Thats never going to happen.

Care to explain why?

[Videx]

Correct. If the user were to find out what was going on they could easily work around it. So don't ever tell anyone. But there's no reason they should find out just because you added them to the MU group.

[Bergler]

Correct. If the user were to find out what was going on they could easily work around it. So don't ever tell anyone. But there's no reason they should find out just because you added them to the MU group.

Do you mean, they could keep there promotion group and just assign them to an additional group? Wouldn't the know if they were assigned to another group?

[Videx]

Wouldn't the know if they were assigned to another group?Perhaps, if you had some system in place that told them, but not by default. Yes, as stated in the instructions this works simply by adding them to the MU group as a secondary, no need to move them there completely.

[Paul M]

Care to explain why?
Because there is no reason to. Therefore Im not going to spend time changing a system that works as intended.

Maybe I am wrong but It would be nice to use this on members without them knowing! If you make a special usergroup, they will know somethings up!! My 2 cents
No one is going to know unless (a) You tell them, or (b) they know about this mod and guess (and then they still wont actually know unless you tell them)

[RedFoxy]

I've a trouble with the users in the miserable usergroup, when they try to read a topic they got:

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [path]/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code:23) in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 3742

[Paul M]

Then you have something else installed that is clashing.

[RedFoxy]

that are all my plugin:

Auto HTML Emails
Automatic Tagger From Content and Title (DISABLED!)
Extended reputation display
iTrader
Make Prefixes Clickable to Filter Forumdisplay
MARCO1 Advanced Quick Reply And Edit With Smilies
MARCO1 Quick Admin Tools
Miserable Users (Actualy disabled for troubles)
Multiple Login Detector
Separate Sticky and Normal Threads
Sevenskins HeaderAvatar
Usergroup Color Bar
vBulletin Blog
vBulletin CMS
VSa - Check If Already Posted
VSa - Login To User Account

[Videx]

that are all my plugin:Clearly you misunderstood. He didn't ask for a list. You need to disable or uninstall all your add-ons then re-enable them one by one to see which one may be conflicting.

[Paul M]

I have no idea which of those may cause an issue, you need to do as suggested above.

[RedFoxy]

oh! ok now I check, but it's strange...

[Videx]

oh! ok now I check, but it's strange...If you read back a ways you'll see it can be difficult to test this mod. Or at least not as easy as it would seem. I know in one of my posts I had figured it out and posted how.

[Paul M]

Whats difficult ? Its very easy to test it.

[Videx]

Whats difficult ? Its very easy to test it.Arg. Terribly sorry! I was thinking of the Multiple login detector. So many mods they sometimes blur together.

[RedFoxy]

I'll test it tomorrow because my server goes offline -.-

[Magz]

I get lots of database error message reporting back to me, with the nick of the "miserable user" ive set? is this a real error, or just one that they see from the server busy setting?

[Paul M]

This does not generate database errors, so they must be real.

[Magz]

Thanks Paul, only got them when I enabled this and added a user. Not sure what it could be then, but i was getting loads of error emails, mostly containing different results. I've disabled for now, and the errors have stopped.

Will have a closer look when i get some more time, pity though, i could have found a use for this :)

[Paul M]

Most likely they are mysql gone away errors, because your server has a very low mysql timeout value - meaning it is lower than the delay setting you have set in the mod.

[Epic Mike]

I've a trouble with the users in the miserable usergroup, when they try to read a topic they got:

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [path]/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code:23) in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 3742

I'm getting the same error but the only plugin I have installed that RedFoxy has other than the stock blog and CMS is the multiple login detector. So I disabled it and the error remains. I then went through the other pulgins that I have and disabling all of those didn't help. I changed the timeout options to 1 and 2 seconds for min and max but that didn't help either.

I also have two other strange issues.

(1) When miserable users get the busy server message other than that message itself the rest of the site is completely blank. There are no words in the tabs, and the login box appears again as if the user isn't logged in. When on the CMS section everything appears normally but when on the forum pages that's when the words disappear.

(2) Instead of a blank page they get a blank page that says "Error - Please try again"

Any advice? I know you said it is working fine on your site but perhaps something I wrote would trigger an idea for me to try?

Thanks,

Mike

[Paul M]

The blank page option does actually put out the message "Error - Please try again", thats by design, the rest of the page is blank. Currently that message is fixed, but it will be optional in the next release.

The server busy message problem is due to the way it currently calls that standard message. vB4 completely changed the way the busy message works and when I ported this, that seemed the best way - however I have since re-designed that way this generates the message, and it should be ok in the next release.

[borbole]

This is a great mod. It is very useful when you don''t wantt o ban right away the troublesome users but wnat to have a little fun first :D

[pablete]

I have an error whem the user want logout. show that:

Archivo:/vhosts/web.com/httpdocs/foro/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code
Línea: 23

can i fixed that of someway? Thank's

[Paul M]

No, it cant be fixed, as it does not happen for me. I cannot explain or fix something I cannot replicate.

[KHALIK]

Installed and working on my board.

vb 4.0.1

[Paul M]

I'm getting the same error but the only plugin I have installed that RedFoxy has other than the stock blog and CMS is the multiple login detector. So I disabled it and the error remains. I then went through the other pulgins that I have and disabling all of those didn't help. I changed the timeout options to 1 and 2 seconds for min and max but that didn't help either.
As per post #63, since nothing I try causes this message, there is nothing I can do unless someone gives me admin access to their server so see what the cause is.

[pablete]

No, it cant be fixed, as it does not happen for me. I cannot explain or fix something I cannot replicate.

Ok, of course, not a problem, i unistall it for the moment, not is very important for me, i can live whithout it ha ha ha.

[JonnyThunder]

Hi Paul M,

I've got this installed and also get the same eval()'d error that some other people are getting. I tried disabling all my plugins (including CMS and Blog) with the intent of re-enabling individually, but the problem still exists with all plugins disabled.

If you'd like access to take a look at the issue in my environment, please let me know through PM and I'll send you details.

P.s.... loved this mod in previous version! :)

[pyrotactics]

how would i use it for vb3.8?

[sulasno]

vBulletin Message

Unable to add cookies, header already sent.
File: /var/www/xxx/forum/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code
Line: 23

[Paul M]

vBulletin Message

Unable to add cookies, header already sent.
File: /var/www/xxx/forum/includes/class_bootstrap.php(93) : eval()'d code
Line: 23

This is a weird problem caused by some server set-ups - they seem to be sending extra headers as part of the delay code. I have no idea why they do this.

The only answer appears to be to change the way the delay works slightly, which I have done in 4.0.6.

[sulasno]

thanks for the prompt response
will install the update :-)

edit

How do I update the Mod?

edit

uninstall and import new xml
and ACP->Options

[solidlink]

Paul, is there any way we can check if a forums is using this?

[Paul M]

Nope.

[FrankAZ]

Excellent mod! I am running a local forum (where people physically get together) and this will be an excellent addition to deal with a few people.

[Chickenpotpie]

tagged for now. It may be something I have to use at a later date.

-CP

[stained]

Thanks for this mod. One of my users is being subjected to miserable mode at the moment for habitually treating my forum as a one-way street where he sucks the information in but contributes nothing of any worth to others. It's great to have the facility to 'punish' people like him without having to ban them. The only shame is that I'll never see his face when he finally realises that he's the only one having problems accessing my forum :)

[BlueCheri]

I do not know why it is not working for me, it was working with older version.

Expecting some feed back and help on that.

[badawidollah]

thanks
help me so much

[Kat00]

Fixed one of my PITA.
This is perfect for the ****** I want to stir up. Thank you.

[Drache]

Hi Paul M.
First I have to say thank you for all your mods. They are very useful.

I have a question about this mod.

Will this use lots of server resource?

During peak hour my site is very slow so I want to use this script to redirect the unregistered users to a for thread and tell them to register or come back later when the low is down.

Would this plugin help to solve my site's speed during peak hour?

[Paul M]

No, is does not use a lot of resources - however, you should not really use this for what you want, thats not what it was designed for.

[sulasno]

The page or url that members will be re-direct to by the above option. DO NOT redirect to another page within the forum as this will set up a potential loop.

would this be a valid url ?

http://www.google.com

[Paul M]

Yes.

[Ken Sanders]

Too funny!
Installed, nominated and donated. Thanks for a great mod!:)

[Mrdby]

(vBulletin Oprions > You spelled Options wrong.. :)

[Paul M]

Just a typo ;)

[3ngin33r1]

Brilliant. I hate banning people because it just opens up a can of worms. It's so "authoritarian" and other users get up in arms about people getting banned, this is the perfect solution.

No, we didn't ban anyone, they must be having problems on their end because everything works fine here.

[Micronichos]

Installed, great work!!

xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy-zzz is that a correct IP range for this mod?

[Paul M]

No, that wont work.

[DAMINK]

:) Lovely work. Tested and working fine.
Rated and marked installed.

[parks72]

thank you very useful

[General of the]

AWESOME MOD!

works 5/5 on vb 4.0.5

[pissedbuddha]

Sorry to ask this, but it seems I've locked myself out of my forum with this mod. Is there anyway to change the settings here without logging into my forum? Yes, I know I'm an idiot.

[Paul M]

Nope.

You will need to disable your plugins via the vb config file if you cannot get into the ACP.

[paradoxx109]

Excellent, been using this long way back........thank you very much for the vb4 version!

[sierra513]

I love this mod. However I seem to have come across a glitch of some kind. I used it for the first time a few days ago. Yesterday I put the user back as a registered user. But he is still having access issues. It seems that he is still being treated as a miserable user and all of the consequences of that are still in place.

Is there something I need to do to fix this?

Thanks

I think I figured out what I did. I had added the IP addy to the controls and had changed the usergroup, but hadnt deleted the IP addy.

sorry.

[talkmaster]

Works great on vB 4.0.7 ;-)

[sulasno]

may I request for additional features ?

is it possible to revert to original usergroup after a period of time eg 3 hours ?

[starman?]

may I request for additional features ?

is it possible to revert to original usergroup after a period of time eg 3 hours ?

Now that would be an excellent feature indeed. A timed period of miserableness!! Excellent idea if it could be done.

[pretty.witch]

Absolutely wonderful!
Thanks a lot!

[OldSchoolDSL]

As always Paul, nice work

Installed 4.1 PL2

[denman75]

its making my total user group feeling miserable
even if i insert one ip ,than the total usergroup is getting pissed rofl

[conradk]

I had to disable the plug-in as it was slowing down my site for everyone. Looks like it was getting hung up on cron.php.

[Paul M]

This has no connection with cron.php

[alsiclani]

Hey Paul, Thank you for this hack.

Can I try to install it on a 4.1.1 version by editing <dependencies> in the xml file ?

[Paul M]

It should already install on 4.1.1

[alsiclani]

Thank you Paul,

I installed it after changing "dependencies" line in the xml file =)

[Paul M]

As I posted above you, there is no need to change the dependancies.

[Videx]

As I posted above you, there is no need to change the dependancies.Probably using an older version. Mine too cuts off at 4.0.99. Time to upgrade!

[Paul M]

It was updated for 4.1 at the start of December - all that changed was the dependancies. :)

[NarutoFTW]

How do I revert a user group a change? for example banned > miserable, back to banned?

[Paul M]

Um, I dont really understand.

You change a members usergroup in the ACP, but Im guessing you know that, so Im lost as to what you are asking.

[NarutoFTW]

Um, I dont really understand.

You change a members usergroup in the ACP, but Im guessing you know that, so Im lost as to what you are asking.

I accidently moved the whole member user group to miseriable. is there a sql query i can execute to reverse this?

[Mikevet1984]

Great mod!

Working in 4.1.2 great.

Thank you!

[Old-Git]

Never seen this before now but truly a great idea, and yes funny as hell! Why ban then when you can torment them first, fantastic!

[Internetcafe]

Very useful addition .. thanks.
Working on 4.1.2

[whitey92lx]

LOL this is awesome!

[Videx]

LOL this is awesome!Not as much as you might think. Unlike a few years ago, these days most people have access to multiple computers, so victims are finding out pretty quickly that something has been done to them. They'll start complaining about being banned and we end up thinking we probably just should have done that in the first place.

I'm not uninstalling it, I'm just saying it's not nearly as effective as it may have been in the recent past.

[Ole_Chilli]

god I missed this add on

[TheLastSuperman]

Not as much as you might think. Unlike a few years ago, these days most people have access to multiple computers, so victims are finding out pretty quickly that something has been done to them. They'll start complaining about being banned and we end up thinking we probably just should have done that in the first place.

I'm not uninstalling it, I'm just saying it's not nearly as effective as it may have been in the recent past.

It's all in how you use something ;).

[Mikevet1984]

Paul can you please upgrade this so as to be able to give user's id to whom the mod to be applied.

Just giving an ip does no satisfy complete as user can very easily changing ip in a minute with various methods.

Cn you please provide an update for he mod with this option?

[Paul M]

userids are not necessary, you create your MU group and add any users to it as a secondary group.

[MySaltyreef]

best hack ever !

[JoeBPC]

We tried this hack. It appeared to cause the "Miserable User" problem for many members that were not in that group. We un-installed it. Thanks for the effort, though.

vBulletin 4,1.4

[Paul M]

Im afraid that could only happen if you did something wrong, or missed a step.

[Mikevet1984]

Never happened to me sth like that!

[Videx]

Im afraid that could only happen if you did something wrong, or missed a step.I almost replied that, but I was afraid he'd ask "What could I have done wrong?". And I swear I can't imagine any way to accomplish that with this mod.

More likely, the server/internet hiccuped just as they were testing it. I mean, he didn't say "one or two members", he said "many members".

[DonosOdD]

That's what I call a troll mod. Haha :D

Tagged for later, I will discuss installing this with my fellow admins.

[jreuc]

Sorry, I am a beginner. Where exactly do you set the value of the usergroup number in the plug-in ?

[Paul M]

As it says ;

Note: All the above are set in vBulletin Options > Miserable Users.

(in your Admin Control Panel).

[Videx]

Sorry, I am a beginner. Where exactly do you set the value of the usergroup number in the plug-in ?If you're a beginner, presumably with a new board, then you really shouldn't be adding a bunch of modifications. Especially one like this where you likely won't need to use it for years. Wait until you've learned more about how the stock vbulletin works, and only add mods you really need.

[Luca_ITA]

Just installed in 4.1.5pl1
Working perfectly
Thank you for this mod!!

[cameraguru]

Love it and know who i'll add too ;)

[justinnethers]

Okay, I feel really stupid for questioning myself and having to ask this, and I know what the answer already is. But, I've got some dingleberry that I've hit with the "miserable user" tag and he claims he's written a script to circumvent him. And the while he double posts like crazy due to the throttling.

I'm not missing something here, am I? It's impossible for someone to circumvent this outside of creating a new account, right? There is no scenario I can dream up where it would be possible to get around this but he's hell bent in claiming he has all the while calling me every name in the book.

Again, sorry for the stupid question. :)

[Mooff]

Why would you tell anyone that you stuck him into this group? Why not just ban him?
I thought the point behind this is to silently drive them away.

And well, there should be an easy way... logging out. Your guests probably are not in the miserable user group.

[DonosOdD]

Okay, I feel really stupid for questioning myself and having to ask this, and I know what the answer already is. But, I've got some dingleberry that I've hit with the "miserable user" tag and he claims he's written a script to circumvent him. And the while he double posts like crazy due to the throttling.

I'm not missing something here, am I? It's impossible for someone to circumvent this outside of creating a new account, right? There is no scenario I can dream up where it would be possible to get around this but he's hell bent in claiming he has all the while calling me every name in the book.

Again, sorry for the stupid question. :)
roflchu.

Use the banhammer on him. Problem solved :P

If he ever creates a new account, you can always look up its IP and identify him. But, if he's using a proxy to do so...that's another story.

Anyway, it's all part of administrating a forum.

[Paul M]

I've got some dingleberry that I've hit with the "miserable user" tag and he claims he's written a script to circumvent him.
He is lying.

It's impossible to circumvent while logged in as the affected user.

[justinnethers]

He is lying.

It's impossible to circumvent while logged in as the affected user.

Like I said, I felt stupid asking.

Here is a thread he made (twice, by the way, because of the mod :)) after I told him it was impossible for him to get around it, called him a liar, and one of my moderators thread banned him for being annoying:

Your responses are awesome haha, the fact that you think that youre correct just because you dont know how to do something.

As usual this is just you making a bold claim of someone else with no proof. Its your opinion and as I always say you are entitled to that. Just dont cry like a b**** while trying to, and failing yet again, to pass off your opinion as fact.

You dont have to remove it, I already said it is weak and easily gotten around. Its not an inconvenience at all. Dont get your panties in a bunch because someone knows more about a subject than you do. For example I know nothing about politics but you dont see me acting like a girl like you are right now because someone knows more than I do.

If you dont think i have one then thats cool, just dont try to pass it off as fact and call people liars....unless of course you have proof to back up your bold claims of someone else.

DO you? No you dont, feel free to shut the f*** up whenever you want.

Thanks for playing.

[DonosOdD]

Thread banned only? My advice: he's a troll. Remove him from your forums.

[laebshade]

Like I said, I felt stupid asking.

Here is a thread he made (twice, by the way, because of the mod :)) after I told him it was impossible for him to get around it, called him a liar, and one of my moderators thread banned him for being annoying:

Don't feed the trolls. People I've put in the miserable users group I did so without telling them or posting it publicly. If they have no reason to believe you are the cause of their problems, they are more like to go away.

[justinnethers]

Well, I'm only keeping him around the lulz now. It's really hard to describe just how ridiculous this guy is. I set him up with the perfect opportunity to prove his skillz and set miserable user to give him an error 100% of the time. I told him to post with his original account (he's made a new one this morning) but of course he says he's not going to post just to appease my ego.

Anyway, thanks for the mod. Great stuff.

[Videx]

Just an FYI concerning the fact that MU works best when the user doesn't know it's happening.

There's an additional tool now - User Punishment by BOP5 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=264870) - which can be set to add x seconds page load delay, and these can be set to x*infraction points. I make it a point to tell people that their infraction point gives them a 4 second delay until expiration. It's not the random thing like MU, and there's no need to keep it secret like MU.

I still find MU useful for immediately cooling off hotheads. But that's just meant to give staff time to discuss an infraction.

[millerelex]

This is Troll-bane. Hah hah haaaaaa LOL

Nothing works better to get rid of those pesky PITA's. Just don't turn it on too strong to make it obvious.

I use the IP option as well.

[misericorde]

Thank you

Good Idea ;-)

Nice

[duvalm]

Just love it and installed it. Just trying it, i am annoyed.

One quick question. Is it ok to set the redirect to /index.php without setting a loop?

[Paul M]

No, never redirect back to the site, otherwise it *will* loop.

[shanef]

I have a user on my forum who likes to troll and report copyrighted content to whatever sites it came from, its hard too keep up on all the posts so it does happen. this guys is an A$$hole and i have banned him many times even by ip. i always end up figuring out who he is, maybe now i can make him not want to even bother with the forum. thanks for this mod i hope it makes it very unpleasant for his guy

[vb50kgpoo]

Isn't this addon an insult to professionalism? I mean, you either ban or warn users right? But to play such IMHO childish games surely only tempts retaliation? Wouldn't it be better to spend time on the content of your site and making more friends, less enemies? Is it OK to ask? Does my question break the forum / adminstrator's rules? I hope not, I think my questions are very valid. Also, does vB.org use this script. If it does, I think other forum software houses would love to know. Maybe it could be renamed to "miserable adminstrators"?

[Videx]

Although some here seem to express a childish glee at the prospect, I think most of us use it for far more serious reasons. We've used it maybe 3-4 times in as many years, for users that really just needed to calm down, and banning or infracting wouldn't have that effect. I think we may have had to eventually ban them anyway so I can't speak to the long term effectiveness of the process. But there was nothing childish about our use of it.

Now that we have the ability to simply add a page load delay, we may never use MU again, I don't know.

[Paul M]

Isn't this addon an insult to professionalism?
No.

Also, does vB.org use this script.
No.

[Paul M]

Updated: This is now available for the 4.1.x series of vBulletin only.

[misericorde]

Thank you very much Paul.

Updated

Very Nice

[doctorsexy]

Tar ..thanks duck

[MalluParadise]

v4.1.7.0 have sum problem when i install the latest version my site get slow loading and server busy it's working fine in v4.1.0

[Paul M]

There is no difference between them, other than the version number, so your issue must lie elsewhere.

[rootsxrocks]

Well I down loaded this ages ago but acually found the need to install it this morning We have a sexual predator ( lewd and lascivious molestation of a victim under the age of 12)that doesn't like the fact his picture is on the site. this is just perfect I had banned him once and he has come back with another profile (both facebook connect) but now my members want to play with him:D so this should crip him up just enough to make it fun without him screwing up a lot of the forum.

[sentinal]

thanks for the update,

i update the product from v4.1.0 to v4.1.7.0
i have a problem when opening the forum pages its stuck in the middle

i need the v4.1.0 please

[Paul M]

Please read post #155.

[Paul M]

Off topic posts removed. This is a support thread for the MU modification, not a place to discuss disputes you may have with people.

[Big Al]

<removed>

Which part of OFF TOPIC did you fail to understand.
Post again about it in here and you will get suspended from the site.

[CJD30]

Does anyone know a way to allow forum mods the ability to set usergroups, rather than just the admin? I'd love for my mods to be able to use this.

[Markos]

moderators should be able to change a usergroup that's below moderators

[rootsxrocks]

there are days I just want to stick this to a user like a voodoo doll pin and take it out before they get wise or check if someone else is having issues. Now I am becoming the sadist Paul and its fun Mu haha

[CJD30]

moderators should be able to change a usergroup that's below moderators

A moderator doesn't have the ability to change usergroups... They can view a user's profile in the modcp, but not change anything. Unless I'm missing something, but I'd love to know if anyone has a way for moderators to have access to the MU setting.

[Markos]

A moderator doesn't have the ability to change usergroups... They can view a user's profile in the modcp, but not change anything. Unless I'm missing something, but I'd love to know if anyone has a way for moderators to have access to the MU setting.

my mod's can change user groups just not change them to moderator and up unless i've set it for them to do it and cant remember doing it lol

[CJD30]

Are you on vb4? If so, if you can tell me how you did it, it'd be much appreciated!

[Luca_ITA]

Just updated vB to 4.1.9
Mod working perfectly!
+
italian translate

[FTDave]

This is great. Thank you very much for your work.

[Rebecca217]

Yes, thank you. This is classic. :)

[OmarK]

I wanted to ask if it were possible to tie this plugin with a user-rating system?

What I envision is a situation where users are capable of making a troll's life more difficult by reporting posts. If a troll receives x amount of reported posts within a particular timeframe, the plugin would kick in.

Is this a plausible feature?

[Videx]

You can already automatically change a user to the MU group using the User Infraction Manager.

You can allow members to give infraction points to other members in the Usergroup Manager. But that would quickly turn into a mess, wouldn't it?

[OmarK]

Thanks for the info! Hadn't thought of that way to work with it.

I'm okay with the idea of users giving users infractions provided I can find a way to control how many infractions they're allowed to give out. My hope is to find a way to allow the community to (up to a point) self-moderate.

Not sure how well that's going to work, but I figure it's a consideration worth contemplating.

[Videx]

Maybe in Fantasy Land. But in the Real World it's a horror too scary to contemplate. Maybe you're just young and still haven't had the idealism beaten out of you by petty people. :)

[OmarK]

Haha, perhaps! Truthfully, it's not idealism that's driving me --- it's laziness.

[DAMINK]

Haha, perhaps! Truthfully, it's not idealism that's driving me --- it's laziness.

Quote of the day EASILY!!! :D:D:D

[Paul M]

I would seriously suggest not giving members the ability to hand out infractions - war would break out very quickly.

[rootsxrocks]

No kidding in a world were you can eliminate hand guns absolutely (neg rep) you sure don't want to hand out cannons to everyone.:eek: just look at how youtubes spam report is abused

[lazytown]

Does anyone know a way to allow forum mods the ability to set usergroups, rather than just the admin? I'd love for my mods to be able to use this.

I am having the same problem. There is no way I can see for mods to use this plugin unless they have admin access.. Using infractions doesn't really work because we want to specifically set which users go to MM.. As far as I know, mods cannot changer a user's usergroup.

I though of creating a 'banned' group for Miserable Members. That way mods could 'ban' them to the MM group. However, you have to give a 'reason' for a ban and I think a may display that (or a ban notice) to a miserable member, defeating the purpose.

Any solutions for this issue?

[thecore762]

Nice mod!

[Videx]

Any solutions for this issue?I think you're obsessing for no reason. Assuming your forum is so incredibly busy with griefers that you would even think about using this more than once a month, what's wrong with using the automatic infraction system to engage it?

Maybe you just need to promote more admins - how many do you have now on such a busy site?

Also know that these days this mod is becoming a lot less effective since people have access to a lot of different computers in a way they didn't a few years ago.

[lazytown]

I think you're obsessing for no reason. Assuming your forum is so incredibly busy with griefers that you would even think about using this more than once a month, what's wrong with using the automatic infraction system to engage it?

Maybe you just need to promote more admins - how many do you have now on such a busy site?

Also know that these days this mod is becoming a lot less effective since people have access to a lot of different computers in a way they didn't a few years ago.

Obsessing? I made one post. Yes it's incredibly busy.. Why don't you worry about how you run your forum and I'll worry about mine. I know what works on mine. This is about the mod's features -- having it accessed by supermods and not only admins. No I don't want to use infractions for this because it defeats the point of them seeing their infractions (and hiding the power of MM). If you use infractions with MM, you basically can't use it for anything else.

You're arguing against the usefulness of this mod... It IS quite useful, and if mods can permanently BAN a member, they surely should be able to make them MM (which is a slightly lower action to take).

[Max Taxable]

Obsessing? I made one post. Yes it's incredibly busy.. Why don't you worry about how you run your forum and I'll worry about mine. I know what works on mine. This is about the mod's features -- having it accessed by supermods and not only admins. No I don't want to use infractions for this because it defeats the point of them seeing their infractions (and hiding the power of MM). If you use infractions with MM, you basically can't use it for anything else.

You're arguing against the usefulness of this mod... It IS quite useful, and if mods can permanently BAN a member, they surely should be able to make them MM (which is a slightly lower action to take).I might be wrong, but I am thinking that in your moderator permissions you can allow "manage usergroups" and this will allow them to put users in the "Miserable Users" usergroup.

[lazytown]

I might be wrong, but I am thinking that in your moderator permissions you can allow "manage usergroups" and this will allow them to put users in the "Miserable Users" usergroup.

Unfortunately, that option doesn't exist.

[Max Taxable]

Unfortunately, that option doesn't exist.Yes if you make them Super Moderators, you can permission them to manage usergroups. Therefore they will be able to place users in this MU group.

[Paul M]

There is no such ability in default vBulletin.

[Max Taxable]

There is no such ability in default vBulletin.So... They would have to make them a administrator, and set permissions the same as a super moderator, or even less - with the exception of the ability to manage usergroups?

Could they create a new usergroup based off the administrator usergroup, call it something like "Board Moderator" and do the same thing?

[lazytown]

So... They would have to make them a administrator, and set permissions the same as a super moderator, or even less - with the exception of the ability to manage usergroups?

Could they create a new usergroup based off the administrator usergroup, call it something like "Board Moderator" and do the same thing?

Thanks for the suggestion, but this won't work (I already tried it). There are some features administrators have that cannot be turned off. They unfortunately can't be made to just have mod powers.

[Max Taxable]

Thanks for the suggestion, but this won't work (I already tried it). There are some features administrators have that cannot be turned off. They unfortunately can't be made to just have mod powers.I have one such administrator, done this way so he could manage only smilies. And that's all he has powers for above and beyond a moderator. But then again I use v3.8.7 not v4 so, maybe there's a difference there.

[Mark.B]

Just a quickie on this, but I never realised this until today when I caught someone doing it.

Miserable users doesn't work on the archive. Meaning people smart enough (as my user was) can at least READ posts by using the archive link.

I fixed this by copying the contacts of the Miserable Users plugin at global_bootstrap_init_start, into a new plugin at archive_global.

It *seems* to work ok, I haven't done extensive testing though so don't blame me if anything goes wrong. :)

[Paul M]

No it doesnt. I was actually aware of that, but no one has ever mentioned it until now.

The main reason I guess is that you cannot post from the archive, its more or less the same as logging out and reading as a guest.

[Mark.B]

No it doesnt. I was actually aware of that, but no one has ever mentioned it until now.

The main reason I guess is that you cannot post from the archive, its more or less the same as logging out and reading as a guest.
My particular user is also "miserabled" by IP address (as theirs is fixed), so logging out won't do them a fat lot of good. :p

Not really a problem, just thought I'd mention it. I too had never given it any thought (I don't really 'miserable' people very often) until I noticed this person viewing the archives in WOL, so i thought, 'oh no you don't!'

I guess it's all about whether you just want to stop them POSTING, or don't really want them READING either. I should probably just ban this person but I like being a bit more subtle.

[hardboiled]

Any way to download earlier versions? My god man, not everyone can upgrade and there are a few loose cannons that need to feel this plugin's wrath. Hook it up Paul, 4.0.7!!

[dog-tag]

Thanks very much Paul... some people really deserve this!

[SuperDude]

Lol!! I Love It! :))

[mgurain]

It's working on 4.2, but shouldn't this be upgraded ?

Regards,,

[Robru]

Thanks for this update, Paul! :)

[Disco_Stu]

Works great with 4.2

Thanks. Marking as installed.

Great Mod.

[Big Engine]

Can someone in the Miserable user usergroup ever get to see what they want ? Is there a way to make it so everything works fine like 25% of the time ? Would I just adjust the other percentages to total 75% ?

[Paul M]

Can someone in the Miserable user usergroup ever get to see what they want ?
Yes.

Is there a way to make it so everything works fine like 25% of the time ? Would I just adjust the other percentages to total 75% ?
Yes, you can set any values you like, they dont need to total 100.

[Big Engine]

Yes.


Yes, you can set any values you like, they dont need to total 100.

Excellent, thank you.......:D

[ryancooper]

Thank you! installed 4.2.0

[elwizard]

Thank you so much. I was searching it!

[tambo]

Yes, you can set any values you like, they dont need to total 100.
I must admit that the default settings threw me when we first installed this.

I assumed that with them totalling 100%, that the user would never see the site. I hadn't realised that each factor and it's percentage was like a gateway that the user would have to pass through - essentially, meaning that the mod is built on cumulative probability.

Once you know that, you can easily work out the probability of someone succeeding in accessing your site per page load. It also allows you to be quite subtle in how you annoy your annoyers. :D

Still my favourite mod by a mile.

[DaNis]

Translation into Turkish language by SirtLan

[iraqiboy90]

LOOOOOOOOL I knew there was something like this around.... Took a while to find.
What goes around, comes back around.

Im not sure if I should thank the author/editor for something like this,
but since Im going to use it back now;
thanks :p

[furnival]

Love this mod, so useful! Thanks Paul M.

[mdawg]

Is this going to happen for vbulletin 5? Wish it would.

[dougdirac]

Is this going to happen for vbulletin 5? Wish it would.
I'm pretty sure that vB5 already has Miserable Users on as default for all users.

[kiddo]

Update for VB 4.2.1?

[Paul M]

As noted at the top of the main post :)

For vBulletin 4.1.0 Onwards

Versions Attached

4107: vBulletin 4.1.0 to 4.1.12
4200: vBulletin 4.2.0 (+) <<

[kiddo]

I see that, problem is the mod is not working. I tried it on another user with permission by him to test it out, but he said nothing occured. The pages didn't slow down, no 404 errors, and yes, I did increase the percentages but nothing affected him.

[DemOnstar]

Installed and and left to it's own devices..

[xyzmaria2001]

Works perfectly with vBulletin 4.2.4, and I just tested it myself. Very frustrating experience indeed =))

[mdawg]

How about vb 4.2.5 does it work? running php 7.1

[MarkFL]

How about vb 4.2.5 does it work? running php 7.1

I am very confident it does...I have it installed on my local dev site (vB 4.2.5/PHP 7.0.13) and it runs without issue.

[mdawg]

Okay I just added it. This particular forum was carried over from vb3 which had the MU Mod on it too, and I noticed that I still have the category of MU left over from the vb3 forum so it was pretty seamless to install and set up this vb4 Mod.

One thing I noticed is that when I instant ban someone, the forum gives 100 points and makes the user a MU - I looked and at
AdminCP > User Infractions > User Infraction Manager

I had set it when this was a vb3 forum to make 50 points a MU and 100 points instant ban, so I'm not sure why an instant ban is making someone a MU, versus banned?
It seems like when you give someone 100 points via Automatic Ban, that this Mod accounts for the 50 first, makes him MU, and not banned.