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cybergas
12-02-2009, 06:21 PM
How to?

Been checking this around and just found 1 old thread.

Mine is 3.8.4 vB board, usergroup supermod should be able to delete and add new users but without any other access to admin cp.
Cannot find it through usergroups permissions and don't want them to be admin.

New usergroup with limited admin CP access? or how to?

Help please. :o

cybergas
12-05-2009, 10:40 PM
No one?

ChopSuey
12-06-2009, 09:51 AM
AdminCP> Usergroups > Usergroup Manager > Super Mods

Scroll down to:
Administrator Permissions Set to YES: then it will have a notice in red font saying to edit admin permissions

cybergas
12-06-2009, 03:21 PM
Thanks a lot ChopSuey

Was a little tricky to figure it before, but thanks to your simple explanations was able to grant them limited access to ACP without promoting them to Admins.:up::)

Speysider
12-06-2009, 03:29 PM
Make sure you allow AdminCP access to trustworthy users or you may find deleted accounts, and all sorts happen.

ChopSuey
12-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Make sure your account dont get edited.

cybergas
12-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Yes, thanks guys for the warns.

These are supermods that were admins and were downgraded due to forum new organization, is trustworthy people, they've played nicely with the ACP when they were admins.

The main reason why they need access is that they were taking care of eventual spammers signing up, deleting them accounts. They are not enough skilled to have access to the whole admincp and either fit the admin profile.

My account among with owners accounts are not editable or changeable as I modified the config.php and they don't have access to the file :up:

--------------- Added 1260122473 at 1260122473 ---------------

And forget to say that gave them permissions only to 'Can Administer Users'

Speysider
12-06-2009, 04:08 PM
Yes, just that only.
If you post in the Paid Services forum, you might be able to get an admin to help you. =)

cybergas
12-06-2009, 04:26 PM
Thanks Speysider, didn't figured that...

One thing, as now supermods can access to modifiy users, they can easily change usergroups.

For example, they can now change their status from SuperMods to Admin, I just tried that and this still give them acces to the same settings not to the whole control panel. Is there a way to restrict them to modify usergroups from a given user?

--------------- Added 1260124724 at 1260124724 ---------------

I've put the supermods on the list of UNDELETABLE / UNALTERABLE USERS so they wont be able to modify their profiles through the ACP, but still this is not the best as if I want to do some fast change I have to go trough the config.php...

Speysider
12-06-2009, 05:13 PM
They can only modify usergroups if the "Can Administer Usergroups" option is set to yes.

You could just have them set as protected users, that's the best option =)

cybergas
12-06-2009, 06:06 PM
They can only modify usergroups if the "Can Administer Usergroups" option is set to yes.

You could just have them set as protected users, that's the best option =)

where is this option?
I've looked into usergroupd supermods, there's not this option.
I've looked into administrator permissions: (username), there's not this option.

Sorry. Where to look for this option?

Speysider
12-06-2009, 06:25 PM
Go to AdminCP -> Usergroups -> Administrator Permissions.
There, you'll find every user who is able to go into the AdminCP. Click on the 'Edit Permissions' link of the user you wish to change permissions.

cybergas
12-06-2009, 10:13 PM
I guess I wasn't clear enough...
Yes, I know how to edit admin permissions, the second statement :

I've looked into administrator permissions: (username), there's not this option.

was referring exactly to where you point. There is no option "Can Administer Usergroups" on there for none of the admins.

This is copy and pasted directly from there:

Can Administer Settings
Yes No

Can Administer Styles
Yes No

Can Administer Languages
Yes No

Can Administer Forums
Yes No

Can Administer Threads
Yes No

Can Administer Calendars
Yes No

Can Administer Users
Yes No

Can Administer User Permissions
Yes No

Can Administer FAQs
Yes No

Can Administer Avatars / Icons / Smilies
Yes No

Can Administer BB Codes
Yes No

Can Administer CRON
Yes No

Can Run Maintenance Tools
Yes No

Can Administer Plugins
Yes No

Can Administer Notices
Yes No

Can Administer Moderator Log
Yes No

Control Panel Style Choice

Dismissed vBulletin News Item IDs

Right now I have the supermods with the 'Can Administer Users' set to YES everything else to NO.
This gives the supermods access to modify Usergroups; even their own to whatever they want, I have setup a supermod account which I'm testing this. The only way I could stop them to modify this is through marking them accounts via configh.php so they cannot modify it, but either I the main admin cannot modify it without going to the config.php first

With my tester supermod user I have change my user group to only admin and what happened is that the user is promoted to admin on the 'Forum leaders' page but still remains with the same access to ACP, no extra permissions or ACP access is granted.

Additionally we have a hidden forum that only 3 people can access (admins) this is to avoid tons of PMs and we can keep on same page, what happened when the supermod 'was able' to change his user group, then it automatically grants access to this hidden forum for supermods who should not be able to see to see this forum.

Anyway, I would like to have that option you mention 'Can administer Usergroups' it is simply that is not there?:(

ChopSuey
12-07-2009, 12:11 AM
It is set by Users & Users permissions.

cybergas
12-07-2009, 05:31 AM
yes? If you don't mind, where please?

ChopSuey
12-07-2009, 05:59 AM
Uh, if you dont mind scrolling up to your original post and reading this part :)
Can Administer Users
Yes No

Can Administer User Permissions
Yes No

If not that then it must be settings.

cybergas
12-07-2009, 06:18 AM
Guess I am not being probably clear here, sorry for being so annoy.

My original question is covered, 'how to make supermods to add/delete users'
I was able to do that by the settings on the above permissions you quoted to YES for only 2 particular users that are supermods. Just the 'Can Administer Users' settings to yes for 2 supermods only. That's all that gives them access to ACP users only.

These are the settings for them users:

YES for the 'Can Administer Users'
NO option for 'Can Administer User Permissions'
NO for everything else.
------------------------------

All that said, there's still a flaw (for my board) regarding USERGROUPS.

They cannot see the Usergroups Tab on the Left side of their limited ACP access, BUT if they do a search for specific user or click on the Edit Profile link of a given user, then when they see the full user edited profile settings, they are able to see AND MODIFY particular user's usergroups. Add, change usergroup, etc.

I just have founded minutes ago that this is a mayor flaw even having them users set to 'undeletable/unalterable users' on the config.php

They can easy create another user and grant admin permissions to a new created user, this way they will be able to see the hidden admins/owners forum they should not seen.

I would like them NOT to have access to modify USERGROUPS over the USER EDIT (user.php?do=edit&u=example123) module.
I guess I will have to dig on the config.php or wherever that is (if somebody can point) so they are not able to SAVE changes of usergroups over the edit user profile module.

Got me know?:o

ChopSuey
12-07-2009, 04:36 PM
Oooh, just let them have default Super Moderator settings then lol. Theyre like the same but no admincp access.

cybergas
12-07-2009, 05:08 PM
LOL! it is just like they are now... but I will need to figure how to let them use the user admincp but with NO access to Usergroups Options... perhaps I will have to write my first MOD...

Thanks for your help :D

ChopSuey
12-07-2009, 05:14 PM
Update us if you make a mod, or send me a PM. :)

cybergas
12-07-2009, 06:04 PM
Sure I will.

Will post the notice on this thread either if I find the way to do it, or modify the admincp USER EDIT module.

I guess I will have to write a simple 'IF usergroup id=5 (supermods) do not show usergroups options'... will figure it later.

I need to install a test forum for all this first :D