New PM System

[Tyran1]

That is a New PN System.

I recommend TMS-System for installation !!

What does this Addon do??

This Addon completly changes the surface area of your PM-System. A new design!!

New features are: (or old features removed)
- No more PM-System in User-Controle-Panel.
- No automated quotes anymore and when you answer you`ll see pm history directly below your message.
(Thanks to ragtek --> Http://www.ragtek.org)
- Message-Tracking is activated by default.
- Copies of your messages will be generated by default.
- New PMs will be highlighted by a blinking icon.
- You?ll be notified in the forums when there is a new PM in your box.

Translation for the text by FiMeTi - Thank you !!!

Translation the Addon by Jamesc70 - Thank you !!!

INSTALLING THIS MOD:

Upload the zipfile's folders to your vBulletin installation.

Import the translated XML files through Product Manager.

German: http://www.vbulletin-germany.org/showthread.php?t=5328

[Itchy Nips]

can someone translate that?

[Brandon Sheley]

you must post this in english, I believe it's a rule ;)

[Lynne]

This is an english only site. Please make the first post in english also.

[Speysider]

What the heck is a PN?

[BucWiLd]

im a bit confused.. i only see 2 differences.

it makes your pm system look like the actual forum?

[Canadians360]

From the little german I can read, this is what I am getting

This is a New PM system.
TMS(template modification system) is recommended!!

What does this Addon do?

This Addon changes the view of the PM system completely!!

New optional functionalities added:

The PM Addon removes the pm system from the User Control panel
You can turn off automatic quoting for PMs by setting the "automatic quotation" option to 'no'. Then when replying to a pm the PM conversation will be shown below. (Thanks @ragtek --> Http://www.ragtek.org)
Messages are tracked by default.
Coppies of the pm are automatical created

New PM's are emphasized by a Blink Icon.
Indication of a new PM is shown in the forums.

The part in red I am usure of, Im a bit stuck there. Sorry.
Ich kann nicht rote W?rter ?bersetzen. Es tut mir leid, dass.


That is a New PN System.
TMS wird empfohlen !!

Was macht dieses Addon??

Dieses Addon ver?ndert die Ansicht des PN System komplett!!

Neue Funktionen bzw entfernt:

PN Anhang Addon von Stoebi integriert.
Kein Kontrollzentrum mehr beim PN System.
Kein "automatisches Zitat mehr" beim antworten & PN Verlauf direkt unter der Nachricht. (Danke @ragtek --> Http://www.ragtek.org)
Standartm??ig ist die Nachrichtenverfolgung aktviert.
Standartm??ig ist die Kopie der PN aktviert.
Neue PN wird per Blink Icon hervorgehoben.
Hinweis einer Neuen PN im Forum.


Sorry for German my English is not good!
Where translate the Addon ??

If I could get a temporary acount on a board with this mod. I could explain it better.

Wenn ich einen vorl?ufigen acount auf einem Ausschuss mit dieser Modifizierung bekommen konnte. Ich konnte es besser erkl?ren.

[FiMeTi]

@BucWiLd
It moves your PM-System out of the control-panel where it is located by default.
Looks like there are Tabs for a better navigation in your new private messages box.

[Speysider]

Another thing is that the whole thing is probably in German, making it useless to those with English speaking run forums.

[Canadians360]

@BucWiLd
It moves your PM-System out of the control-panel where it is located by default.
Looks like there are Tabs for a better navigation in your new private messages box.

From the looks of it the tabs are also [ajax] powered.

Another thing is that the whole thing is probably in German, making it useless to those with English speaking run forums.

I can check that now but you shouldnt go claiming things unless you know them to be a fact. Most titles and names are simply dictionary look-ups. Though the admin cp controlls may still be an issue. anyway Ill take a look.

[Tyran1]

@FiMeTi - Thank you !!!

[Speysider]

I can check that now but you shouldnt go claiming things unless you know them to be a fact. Most titles and names are simply dictionary look-ups. Though the admin cp controlls may still be an issue. anyway Ill take a look.
They seem to be a fact because if you look at the attachments, it shows up in German, and the name of the .zip file looks half-English, half-German.

[Canadians360]

For now I would say unless you have TMS it would be best to skip on this modifcation if you dont speak german.

This is due to several template modifications which are in german.

[Hostboard]

If we can get past the German install directions is the modificaiton at least in English???

[drsli]

As far as I scrolled through the xmls, it´s a German-phrased modification. Unfortunately unusable for me, although I´m a German. My forum is an English-based one.

[Tyran1]

Unfortunately, my English for the translate does not reach!
Maybe somebody is found this is able to! Nevertheless,
I did not want to keep from you this Addon.
Because was asked quite several times.

Thus it goes for us German, however, also with your Addons...

[Speysider]

Since the whole modificatin is in German, might I suggest Tyran1 that you post this on www.vbulletin-germany.org?

[Tyran1]

Since the whole modificatin is in German, might I suggest Tyran1 that you post this on www.vbulletin-germany.org?

German Forum: http://www.vbulletin-germany.org/showthread.php?t=5328

[Ramsesx]

As far as I scrolled through the xmls, it?s a German-phrased modification. Unfortunately unusable for me, although I?m a German. My forum is an English-based one.
Doesn't have vbulletin a phrase system where phrases can be translated easily into several languages?

[Speysider]

Yes, it does, but imagine the work trying to understand what everything meant. Because the variable phrase names are also in German.

[skol]

Then why is the thread continuing.

[z0diac]

What the heck is a PN?

I think he meant PM but in his native language.

If someone fluent in both languages (and who knows coding) could do an English port of this, I think this looks like a GREAT add-on. I love vB but must admit, it's PM subsystem is very clumsy. I like the look of the layout of this mod. Hopefully we'll see an English version of it in the future.

[VonDoom]

I think he meant PM but in his native language.

If someone fluent in both languages (and who knows coding) could do an English port of this, I think this looks like a GREAT add-on. I love vB but must admit, it's PM subsystem is very clumsy. I like the look of the layout of this mod. Hopefully we'll see an English version of it in the future.
Was thinking the same, :up:

[edytwinky]

Can we get pics in English?

[MattGraal]

<font size="3">PS: Online translators do wonders.</font>

What this Addon makes:

This Addon changes the view of the PN system completely!!

The PN supplement Addon of Stoebi is integrated.

No control center more in the PN system. Answer no "automatic quotation more" in that. (Would thank @ragtek) PN course directly under the message. (Thanks @ragtek) Standartmäßig is the message pursuit act fourth. Standartmäßig is the copy of the PN act fourth. New PN with Blink Icon emphasized.
Reference of a new PN in the forum. Completely new view.

(Message pursuit is presently postal service exit & postal service exit is stored; it on that is worked both together gain)

Test before the installation:

Are following Templates originals? (must original be)

pm_message cunning pm_messagelistbit pm_messagelistbit_ignore pm_messagelist_periodgroup pm_newpm pm_receipts
pm_receiptsbit pm_showpm pm_trackpm pm_editfolders

If the PN supplement Addon installs, zumindets must be made the Template changes rückgänig!

Update on 1.4

1st product file „product-rth_pn_system" in the ACP under 'Add ons & plagued in that / Add ons administer' import (transferring).

Import (transferring) 2nd TMS file: „templateedits-rt_pn_system".

Newly installation:

Carry out please all changes:

1St upload file high store (Tabs farblich in css adapt)

2nd product file „product-rth_pn_system" & „product-pma_160906" (if supplement Addon already installed not necessarily) in the ACP under 'Add ons & plagued in that / Add ons administer' import.

3: Noted please that "can reject" requested harvest confirmations of private messages on no stands in the user groups!

Attentions only do not carry out stored become if the PN's IT!!

Carry out 4th SQL query:

(Copy of sent messages standard moderate in the postal service exit store)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------.

UPDATE user SET option = option + 33554432 WHERE NEEDS (option & 33554432);

----------------------------------------------------------------------------.

5: If no TMS in the use is carry out the Template changes per hand!!

Finished!

[JamesC70]

Exactly. :)

I took the time to translate most of the phrases into English. Screenshots and replacement XML files are attached.

The biggest reason *I* would want this addon is because it allows file attachments in PMs. The attachment limits are the same as the forum attachment limits.

However, I do see a few errors, which are very minor and the original author could probably fix fairly quickly:

- Personal PM folders: I can't add any more, as the limit of 3 has already been reached (see their tabs in the screenshots). There's no facility in this mod for users to rename the existing folders, either.

- When composing a new PM, if the user does not have a signature in their account, the Signature option box (above Send and Preview buttons) is blank. Author should add a conditional to be sure the user HAS a signature before prompting if they'd like it attached to their PM.

- On the Sent Messages tab, the timestamp column header uses the same phrase as the Track Messages tab. When I was translating the XML, I saw a seperate phrase for "Sent Date" -- I don't know why it wasn't used here. (See second screenshot.)

- The Tracking tab required no translation other than the tab name, which tells me that the author could have recycled vBulletin's phrasing if they wanted to.

NOTE: I translated only the phrases I saw on screen; there may be error messages that I missed and therefore didn't translate.


INSTALLING THIS MOD:

Upload the zipfile's folders to your vBulletin installation.

Import the translated XML files through Product Manager.

Open "Ohne TMS.TXT", this translates to "Without TMS". There's 12 template modifications to make. The first few are "search for _____" and "replace with _____", the rest are full template replacements. (Obviously, if you have TMS, you don't have to do these manually.)

In each usergroup's settings, there's a box where you can allow or deny PM attachment sending and PM attachment receiving. These are set to "allow" by default. I do not know what happens if you send an attachment to someone in a usergroup that isn't allowed to receive them.


MY THOUGHTS:

If the author fixes the problems noted above, and completes the translation to English, then I'd be satisfied with this mod. But as it stands now, I only rate it a 7 out of 10.

[Tyran1]

- On the Sent Messages tab, the timestamp column header uses the same phrase as the Track Messages tab. When I was translating the XML, I saw a seperate phrase for "Sent Date" -- I don't know why it wasn't used here. (See second screenshot.)

Unfortunately, this is thus I could make it not different. unfortunately. Also I wanted to lay Sent and postpursuit together, nevertheless, also this is not possible anyhow. There is not a solution of the vB team, unfortunately, also ... maybe with you??

[Tyran1]

Nothing save the Message

search in produkt:

<plugin active="1">
<title>save and track</title>
<hookname>private_insertpm_process</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[$pmdm->set_info('savecopy', 1);
$pmdm->set_info('receipt', 1);]]></phpcode>
</plugin>

and replace with:

<plugin active="1">
<title>track</title>
<hookname>private_insertpm_process</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[$pmdm->set_info('receipt', 1);]]></phpcode>
</plugin>

the User can self options to save copy message.


Or nothing tracking

search in produkt:

<plugin active="1">
<title>save and track</title>
<hookname>private_insertpm_process</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[$pmdm->set_info('savecopy', 1);
$pmdm->set_info('receipt', 1);]]></phpcode>
</plugin>

and replace with:

<plugin active="1">
<title>save and track</title>
<hookname>private_insertpm_process</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[$pmdm->set_info('savecopy', 1);]]></phpcode>
</plugin>

the User can self options to tracking the message.


I will not change this addon passing there it is standart for this.

[Black Tiger]

I like this, but I would like this inside my user cp, not as some link in my navbar or where is it getting?

Next to that I would be willing to help translate left over translations for you from German to English as far as I can do it myselve.
Please start by changing PN system to PM system.:)
Nachrichten=Messages or Messaging, depending on the way your are using them in a sentence.:)

[New Joe]

There are 2 xml files, do they both need to be imported?

[JamesC70]

There are 2 xml files, do they both need to be imported?
Only if you want the add-on to work correctly. ;)

[grey_goose]

I'd love to see this developed further. Like others, remaining in the CP is desired, but the tabs are bloody brilliant.

[Trescom]

This new PM system looks great for me. Much better designed than the default one. It looks much simplier and better for the eye, but... it doesn't work for me.
See the attachement for details what happened after installing.

And yes, i've uploaded all files few times and imported both XML files.

[grzywa92]

This new PM system looks great for me. Much better designed than the default one. It looks much simplier and better for the eye, but... it doesn't work for me.
See the attachement for details what happened after installing.

And yes, i've uploaded all files few times and imported both XML files.


you must before install this mod : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=152931 :)

[JamesC70]

This new PM system looks great for me. Much better designed than the default one. It looks much simplier and better for the eye, but... it doesn't work for me.

you must before install this mod : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=152931 :)

Either install the TMS mod linked above, or do the template edits as I said earlier in this thread:
INSTALLING THIS MOD:

Upload the zipfile's folders to your vBulletin installation.

Import the translated XML files through Product Manager.

Open "Ohne TMS.TXT", this translates to "Without TMS". There's 12 template modifications to make. The first few are "search for _____" and "replace with _____", the rest are full template replacements. (Obviously, if you have TMS, you don't have to do these manually.)

In each usergroup's settings, there's a box where you can allow or deny PM attachment sending and PM attachment receiving. These are set to "allow" by default. I do not know what happens if you send an attachment to someone in a usergroup that isn't allowed to receive them.

[Trescom]

Aye... i totally forgot about TMS mod. I was absolutely sure i've installed it, but it proved that i only downloaded it ;)
Anyway thanks for advice to both of you guys! Beer from me ;)
The only thing to do now is translate everything into polish.

$marked

Dzięki grzywa.

[Tyran1]

New Pictures for the PM System Addon 1.5:
(Version 1.5 with a English languagefile ;) )

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2010/12/67.jpg

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/10/10.jpg

[Mister Magoo]

Very cool, I may be opting for the User CP Inclusion addon. ;)

[Trescom]

Looks nice. When it will be available ? :P

Actually screenshots are so small that i can't see anything :P

[Tyran1]

Looks nice. When it will be available ? :P

Actually screenshots are so small that i can't see anything :P

ca. one Week!

[ChopSuey]

What the heck is a PN?

Im wondering the same thing...

[grey_goose]

ummm yeah, Tyran i want THAT

[Trescom]

I didn't realized that before, but after few PM's from my Users i started to think.
After installing this mod EVERY Message from any User (same from me) request a read receipt.
Even that this option is turned off.

Any idea how to fix that? For a longer period of time, clicking everytime "Confirm" while trying to read a new message is very annoying >.<

[Drocr]

Yeah that would be irritating but wow I absolutely love this mod. I hope its completed and stable soon!

[Mister Magoo]

There is a tut on page two that tells you how to switch that off. It involves editing the XML file.

No tracking
Search in XML File:

<plugin active="1">
<title>save and track</title>
<hookname>private_insertpm_process</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[$pmdm->set_info('savecopy', 1);
$pmdm->set_info('receipt', 1);]]></phpcode>
</plugin>
and replace with:

<plugin active="1">
<title>save and track</title>
<hookname>private_insertpm_process</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[$pmdm->set_info('savecopy', 1);]]></phpcode>
</plugin>

[Trescom]

Thanks Magoo! I've read all post at least few times. How i missed that >.<

[AeonGamer]

Installed.

Awesome addon. Thanks very much.

[Tyran1]

The New Version is Online 1.5 !!! With English language ;)

1 Bug is in the Addon.

see : http://www.vbulletin-germany.org/showpost.php?p=62141&postcount=214

[cindy helmond]

do you have english translation in the readme ? thx

[Tyran1]

do you have english translation in the readme ? thx

No, sorry :rolleyes:

load: Upload
import the file!

See: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1898168&postcount=26

[Taurus1]

Thank you....looks much better!! Just one thing please. I checked the settings in the Usergroups for attaching files in their PM's but even when enabled, I can't seem to find the option to upload an attachment.

Can you help please??

[Zi55]

Can this work in 3.7 , and where the templete edit file , i didn't find it anywhere .
Thanks ,
Zi5

[Taurus1]

I really need to get attachments in the PM's. Can someone help please!!??

[JamesC70]

I really need to get attachments in the PM's. Can someone help please!!??

Attachments worked fine when I did the English translation several months ago. Are both the sender and the recipient allowed to send attachments in PMs? Check the usergroup settings.

[Taurus1]

Attachments worked fine when I did the English translation several months ago. Are both the sender and the recipient allowed to send attachments in PMs? Check the usergroup settings.

I fail to find where to even upload the attachment? How is it suppose to look? Should there not also be a little 'paperclip' in the editor taskbar? Or how else then? Thank for the reply!

[JamesC70]

I fail to find where to even upload the attachment? How is it suppose to look? Should there not also be a little 'paperclip' in the editor taskbar? Or how else then? Thank for the reply!

I didn't save a screenshot of sending a PM when I did the other screenshots. I don't have the 3.8 test forum running anymore to make a screenshot of this (my test forum was upgraded to 4.0 last month).

But if I remember correctly, the option to attach to a PM is below the text entry area, as a "Manage Attachments" button, similar to how vBulletin allows attachments to forum posts.

[Taurus1]

I thought that it should be like that, but I don't have that.

110316

[lille L]

After innstalling this, the left colum with choices as :send ny message +++ gone. I only have the inbox colum. Is there any way to fix this, so the users want have to go all the way back to CP to send a message?

[JamesC70]

After innstalling this, the left colum with choices as :send ny message +++ gone. I only have the inbox colum. Is there any way to fix this, so the users want have to go all the way back to CP to send a message?

That's part of the point of this particular mod: to redesign the PM system.

I refer you to the screenshot I made several months ago: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=105293&d=1255379017

Things that used to be on the left side, such as Folders or Send A PM, are now in tabs along the top of the private message list, as seen in this screenshot.

If you really want the menu down the left, you might prefer this mod instead: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=230434

[JamesC70]

I thought that it should be like that, but I don't have that.


What do you see if you scroll down, below the Submit Message and Preview Message buttons?

[Taurus1]

What do you see if you scroll down, below the Submit Message and Preview Message buttons?

I also have this Mod installed: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=196249 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=196249)

So I think that this might have something to do with it. Is it possible to have both.

Thanks for your efforts mate. Appreciated!!

[mgurain]

Hi,
It seems a good system,
If I install it, then for any purpose I disabled it or uninstall it, will normal vb system works fine ?
I think PM system should be like threads with replies, if you can enhance this one.
Thanks,,

[JamesC70]

I also have this Mod installed: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=196249 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=196249)

So I think that this might have something to do with it. Is it possible to have both.

They could be conflicting. I've not used the mod you link to, so I can't tell you 100%. And as I said earlier, my test forum has been upgraded to 4.0, so I can't quickly install both of these mods to check for incompatibilities.

Have you tried disabling the Imageshack mod to see if the New PM file attachment option reappears? That'd be my first course of action.

Though it seems to me that having both would be redundant. The New PM mod stores attachments on your forum, where the Imageshack mod stores them off your forum, but they do the same thing. :rolleyes:

[JamesC70]

If I install it, then for any purpose I disabled it or uninstall it, will normal vb system works fine ?

If you uninstall this mod through Uninstall in AdminCP -> Plugins and Products -> Manage Products, then yes the normal vB system will work fine. :)

[ScottiG]

Marked as installed!

Display issue...

The mod installed quite easily using TMS, but after install I have noticed that my "send new message" shows as a button instead of a tab like it does in the screenshots for the mod.

What went wrong? Where/what/how can I fix this?

Thanks in advance!

ScottiG

[JamesC70]

The mod installed quite easily using TMS, but after install I have noticed that my "send new message" shows as a button instead of a tab like it does in the screenshots for the mod.

What went wrong? Where/what/how can I fix this?

My screenshots are from 1.4, this may have been changed in 1.5.

Personally, I think the button makes more sense than the tab. The tabs select different existing message and receipt folders, and having the "Send New Message" tab in the middle of them just seemed out of place to me.

Edit: Yeah, this looks to have been changed in 1.5. Looking at the white-ish screenshots above, there's an envelope with a pencil, and a link, where you have the button. Maybe that link is inheriting some styling from your theme, making it look like a button? (Yours looks good, though. The button makes that link stand out so your members can find it.)

[ScottiG]

James,

Thanks for the response. I hear what you are saying in regard to the button instead of the tab, but the tab just looks cleaner to me. Perhaps I can make a new button graphic and figure out how to move it to a more visually pleasing location - Still, I think the tab looks cleaner and more refined.

The button displays in different locations in different styles, so it is not as intuitive as I would like. Whereas the tab would be in the same location in each style.

If I had the template code from version 1.4 I could probably merge the two to get the look I'd like.

[JamesC70]

The button displays in different locations in different styles, so it is not as intuitive as I would like. Whereas the tab would be in the same location in each style.

If I had the template code from version 1.4 I could probably merge the two to get the look I'd like.

Um..... 1.4 is still available to download, it's in the first post of this thread.

[tlwwolfseye]

I dont have TMS installed. I just installed this Mod (1.5) but it still looks like before, my PM area. I do have a custom theme !

It would help if i would know what template changes to do manually. But nowhere in the Readme or TXT File i see how to do that.

Please help !

UPDATE:

I could only find the mention of a "OHNE TMS.TXT" file in this thread. That File isnt included in the 1.5 Release but only in the 1.4 (GERMAN) Release. Then I did all the Template changes to the letter that are mentioned in this .TXT File.
These Templates were, like necessary for this Mod, not altered before !

After that I took a look at my PM area and it doesn't look anything like in the pictures.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8407/pnsystemprob4.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/909/pnsystemprob3.jpg
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/3959/pnsystemprob2.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2391/pnsystemprob1.jpg

Also you can see in the Footer of the Inbox (Image 1) that it says Version 1.31 of that Mod. Typo ? Wrong ZIP content ?
Whats wrong ? :eek:

[JamesC70]

I dont have TMS installed. I just installed this Mod (1.5) but it still looks like before, my PM area. I do have a custom theme !

It would help if i would know what template changes to do manually. But nowhere in the Readme or TXT File i see how to do that.

I could only find the mention of a "OHNE TMS.TXT" file in this thread. That File isnt included in the 1.5 Release but only in the 1.4 (GERMAN) Release. Then I did all the Template changes to the letter that are mentioned in this .TXT File.

Sounds to me that you mixed 1.4 and 1.5. Either way, it's up to the installing forum owner to adjust code for a custom theme. No add-on author can predict every potential theme possibility and adjust for it.

I've not played with 1.5, but I documented installing 1.4 in post 26 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1898168&postcount=26) of this mod.

[Ljusya]

Will you create this hack for Vb4 ?

[Tyran1]

Will you create this hack for Vb4 ?

No!!

The New Version 1.5.1 is Online.

Fixed: errors when the delete the mails

[Mostjolly]

I've just installed this on vB version 3.8.2, doesn't seem to be working properly.. currently mine is looking like #1.. even tho I prefer having the UserCP Shell on left side like on #2:

#1: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=105619&d=1256388342

#2: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2010/12/67.jpg

Currently I'm not using TMS as it interfere with some of the mods I'm using... could someone provides details/info how one could custom edit templates without any TMS hacks?

Appreciate for all the support,
-LMN