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topranger
08-21-2009, 01:32 AM
i always wonder being such a big company how come jelsoft is not stopping piracy?
i'm sure there is some kind of way to stop hacker/scripter/programmer from nulling the vBulletin software cuz no matter what version

if you search vBulletin 3.x.x or whatever on google, 3rd or 4th link would be nulled
why aren't jelsoft doing something about it??:(

i'm pretty sure jelsoft can double their sales every time if piracy is stopped completely

JacquiiDesigns
08-21-2009, 01:41 AM
Maybe Jelsoft is in loop with the pirates?
Every nulled script installed gets a 2-month try-before-you-by - the nuller gets credit for the install and then BAMN! Said pirate has to purchase the software or site gets shutdown? The nuller is credited 20% for the new sale, as if a regular old fashion affiliate. Could be an interesting gimmick...

And also - sales would not necessarily double based on nulled vBulletin use - are you kidding? If people had the money to purchase the software in the first place they would. A majority percentage of those who have been caught using nulled software - will not then go right to the purchase button on vBulletin.com - What a dream....

Anyway - vBulletin uses Pirate Reports (http://www.piratereports.com/) to enforce their copyright! :)

Jacquii.

Senti.Jatt
08-21-2009, 01:51 AM
^ i don't agree with you on that
Some people always look for ways to get something free instead of paying for it....

And believe me i know few sites who are using nulled software's for years!
I even sent e-mail to authorities but no response......
Do you really think jelsoft pay nuller's lol what a joke!
Matter of fact nuller's are using nulled vBulletin to share Nulled scripts huh

i mean c'mon lets get real!
What would you do if you want something real bad and the only way to get it is PAY FOR IT.
Lets take Paid Modifications for example, don't you think people spend 2-3 hours searching for certain modification before they actually create a thread in Paid requests?
There is no Free Lunch but if there is one, everyone waits in line to get it!

topranger
08-21-2009, 01:53 AM
^ +1

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i'm not trying to create an argument, just wanna hear from the officials about what they think about this matter

Winterfell
08-21-2009, 02:26 AM
In today's society, everyone feels they are entitled to everything, free of charge.

JacquiiDesigns
08-21-2009, 02:35 AM
^ i don't agree with you on that
Some people always look for ways to get something free instead of paying for it....

And believe me i know few sites who are using nulled software's for years!
I even sent e-mail to authorities but no response......
Do you really think jelsoft pay nuller's lol what a joke!
Matter of fact nuller's are using nulled vBulletin to share Nulled scripts huh

i mean c'mon lets get real!
What would you do if you want something real bad and the only way to get it is PAY FOR IT.
Lets take Paid Modifications for example, don't you think people spend 2-3 hours searching for certain modification before they actually create a thread in Paid requests?
There is no Free Lunch but if there is one, everyone waits in line to get it!

Wow - What ever happened to having a sense of humor?

Anyway - OBVIOUSLY I was joking in part. But I have been part of the warez scene so I KNOW! I have facts to back up my post. Of course there are low-lifes (like me haha) who will always want free stuff. Don't we all? Yes. But the majority of those in the vB warez scene that I've had personal interaction with are those who simply cannot afford the software. They want a top-of-the-line product for their online community and can't afford the $180 vB owned license. I know this because 1. I once used a nulled vBulletin before I became a license holder and 2. I have been part of the warez scene and have experience with people who have used nulled versions of different software.

So I can back up my statement through that experience. You perhaps do not have the same experience. Of course - there are different schools of thought on the entire p2p share scenario - no need to argue, as piracy is illegal. End of story.

But to answer the original question again, vBulletin uses Pirate Reports as a means to enforce their copyright. Question has been asked and answered numerous times - in fact - It's been asked and answered so many times (with people being concerned about affairs other than their own and wanting to report an ex-friend or whatever...) I believe this thread will be closed as soon as a Mod/Admin happens by it...

Jacquii.

topranger
08-21-2009, 03:22 AM
Wow - What ever happened to having a sense of humor?

Question has been asked and answered numerous times - in fact - It's been asked and answered so many times (with people being concerned about affairs other than their own and wanting to report an ex-friend or whatever...)

Jacquii.

lol very true:D

s0lidgr0und
08-21-2009, 04:07 AM
In today's society, everyone feels they are entitled to everything, free of charge.Hence the election of Barack Obama.

JacquiiDesigns
08-21-2009, 04:26 AM
Hence the election of Barack Obama.

LMAO!!!!
That was too funny - but I must say with all the seriousness I can muster, "No comment."
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

Jacquii.

Attilitus
08-21-2009, 06:45 AM
i'm sure there is some kind of way to stop hacker/scripter/programmer from nulling the vBulletin software.


There is no way to prevent scripts from being "nulled." PHP code is plain text, and can be modified by anyone. There is also no way to compile the source code in a way that cannot be trivially reverse engineered.

Marco van Herwaarden
08-21-2009, 07:48 AM
^ +1

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i'm not trying to create an argument, just wanna hear from the officials about what they think about this matter
Not only have you posted on the wrong site for that, if you want to hear from officials then you would need to post on vB.com. Also this forum is intended for feedback on vBulletin.org. Piracy of vBulletin software has nothing to do with this site. ;)

Stopping piracy is impossible, even encoded or compiled software gets cracked within days mostly. We could make it more difficult by encoding our software, but that would be a major setback for the regular users as modifying would become very difficult. Be happy that we are still on visible source software, even if that means that it will be easier to create a warez version.

All piracy that comes to our attention is always followed up on. Sometimes it is however not so easy to take action if a site for example is hosted offshore.

Closing this thread as it doesn't belong here and we can not provide you with any more answer anyway. If you think there is more to discuss regarding this or need more information then please post on vBulletin.com, although i doubt you would get any more information as we don't disclose all our methods to fight piracy.