Prevent Bump on Forum Threads Before X Time

[IdanB]

Prevent Bump on Forum Threads Before X Time
By: Idan B.


Note:
This modification was coded to answer request given by vithorius @ https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=212173
As with other modifications i've take upon coding from requests section, this sounded like useful modification to entire community, so i believe the time i've spent to code it was worth it.

1. Description & Usage:
This hack will allow any forum admin to configure certain forum in a way that will prevent any users to bump his thread before certain time has passed from the time thread has been created. Any attempt by user to reply before time has passed will show user with error message & showing him the remaining time he has to wait before allowed to reply.

2. Installation:
Please click Mark as Installed.
Installation is pretty easy - just download & install:

Goto: AdminCP->Plugin System->Manage Products : Choose "Add/Import Product" and import this product xml (product-prevent_bump.xml)

3. Upgrade From Older Version:
1. Uninstall previous version
2. Download new version xml & install as instructed in previous section.

4. Configuration:
Once installed, the "Forum Manger" under admincp will have extra section for each forum:
Section name: "Prevent Threads Bump"

Enabled ? - Yes/No
Minimum time before thread bump (#d #h #m #s) - Text

5. Known Bugs:
- None at the moment - please report any found !

6. TO-DO's LIST (Next Versions):
- 2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again - fixed in v1.0.1.
- Bypass to certain usergroups

7. Extra Notes:
The text used in this modification is fully configured via phrase manager in admincp.
- Error messages is made from 3 phrases:
reply_access_denied_wait_x_time_please
prevent_bump_please_wait_1
prevent_bump_please_wait_2

Enjoy hack & dont forget to click Mark as Installed :)

[IdanB]

Changelog:

20 Jun 2009 11:31 - Version 1.0.1 Released:

2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again.

[CarpHunter]

This looks like a nice mod indeed.

One question: when someone answers the TS his first post and the TS wants to reply is that allowed by this hack? or does he still have to wait before the time set runs out before replying?

[vithorius]

Dear IdanB,

THANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH!!!


:up: :up: :up: :up:

[twitch]

awesome!

[IdanB]

This looks like a nice mod indeed.

One question: when someone answers the TS his first post and the TS wants to reply is that allowed by this hack? or does he still have to wait before the time set runs out before replying?

Yes.
This mod only prevent some1 to bump his own thread if no reply has been made.
Should any reply be made, he can reply to his own thread without problem.

[lm3a.net]

WoW

Installed

thank u,,

[bigcurt]

Can we configure this by usergroup? That way admins can bump whenever they like.

[IdanB]

Can we configure this by usergroup? That way admins can bump whenever they like.

Not available in current version, but it's already written on the TO-DO's list.
This will be available on next revision update.

[bigcurt]

Not available in current version, but it's already written on the TO-DO's list.
This will be available on next revision update.

Thanks bud.

[bigcurt]

Also, can a user reply to his own thread if someone other than him has replied since the last time he did? Like he is answering a question instead of purposely bumping.

[IdanB]

Yes. once thread has some repliy (or replies), thread starter has no longer any restrictions & can reply to his own thread. The mod idea was to prevent initial bump to thread no one has replied to.

[bigcurt]

Great! Thanks. Installed bud.

[jaymanfromTFX]

Can you set what forums you want to use this in or is it just set for every forum?

[vithorius]

Can you set what forums you want to use this in or is it just set for every forum?

Please read carefully what IdanB says on the first post:

4. Configuration:
Once installed, the "Forum Manger" under admincp will have extra section for each forum:
Section name: "Prevent Threads Bump"

* Enabled ? - Yes/No
* Minimum time before thread bump (#d #h #m #s) - Text

[jaymanfromTFX]

Thanks, must not have read it right the first time.I installed it but i tried to test it out and does not do anything when i try to bump a thread more then the time i set it for.I have it set for active and 6h.

[IdanB]

Thanks, must not have read it right the first time.I installed it but i tried to test it out and does not do anything when i try to bump a thread more then the time i set it for.I have it set for active and 6h.

Note it will only prevent to bump threads that has no reply (new htread).
Should there be any old thread with already more than 1 post in it, it will not prevent it to be bumped.

[vithorius]

Note it will only prevent to bump threads that has no reply (new htread).
Should there be any old thread with already more than 1 post in it, it will not prevent it to be bumped.

Dear IdanB,

I was NOT aware of this...! :( :erm:

Is it possible to add any way of preventing ANY kind of 'bump' from the thread's author BEFORE the time that we set on the admincp?

I mean:

- If the thread author wants to reply, he must wait for the 'X' days in order to be able to reply. When that 'X' days has passed, he CAN reply ('bump') the thread, but now, he must wait ANOTHER 'X' days to be able to 'bump' again...


In my case, nobody will reply in those threads, because only the thread Author is able to reply on those sections.

But if I would give permission to anyone reply on the thread, then the author should WAIT the 'X' days to 'bump' the thread again!



Well, the main idea would be to prevent ANY kind of 'bump' from the thread's author outside that 'X' days periods. Is that possible? :confused:
(that is so very much important for me! :eek: )


Thank you so very much!

[IdanB]

Dear IdanB,

I was aware of this...! :( :erm:

Is it possible to add any way of preventing ANY kind of 'bump' from the thread's author BEFORE the time that we set on the admincp?

I mean:

- If the thread author wants to reply, he must wait for the 'X' days in order to be able to reply. When that 'X' days has passed, he CAN reply ('bump') the thread, but now, he must wait ANOTHER 'X' days to be able to 'bump' again...


In my case, nobody will reply in those threads, because only the thread Author is able to reply on those sections.

But if I would give permission to anyone reply on the thread, then the author should WAIT the 'X' days to 'bump' the thread again!



Well, the main idea would be to prevent ANY kind of 'bump' from the thread's author outside that 'X' days periods. Is that possible? :confused:
(that is so very much important for me! :eek: )


Thank you so very much!

Problem is if you do that, he wouldnt be able to reply to someone, and i'm not sure this is desired effect.
Assumption is, if more than 1 reply, then some1 answered to him, then i would assume we want to allow thread starter to reply to his own thread.

EDIT: misread your answer.
i'll see what i can do to fix this, so any 2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again.

[vithorius]

Dear IdanB,

Please excuse my poor english (as my main language is portuguese... :rolleyes: )

When I sayd "I was aware of this...!" I meant "I was NOT aware of this...!" (I forget to write the word "NOT")


Ok, so answering you message:
EDIT: misread your answer.
i'll see what i can do to fix this, so any 2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again.
Ok! I believe that it would be simple to do that...

Maybe my case is very different from other people's needs, but what I need is just that:

"any 2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again."
(and so on... and so on... - until the thread becomes closed or deleted!)

[IdanB]

yea, understood what you meant. i'll do my best to upload a fix for it tonight.
First i need to finish work on some other mod that needs overdue update release (Alt Last Post). when that's finished, i will work on fix for this modification.

regards,
Idan.

[jaymanfromTFX]

Thanks!!! i got it to work.Will be looking forward to what else you do with this mod.

[TFEX]

...i'll see what i can do to fix this, so any 2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again.

This is exactly the functionality I am looking for. Did this get uploaded already as mentioned, or are we still waiting on the change?

Also, I can't seem to produce any results from this hack either. I've set it up in a test forum for 5m and active, started a new thread and promptly bumped it with no problems at all... many times... something I am doing wrong on my end?

[jaymanfromTFX]

Well it worked for me last night.I set up a new thread to test it in and it worked.But this morning i went to try it and it let me bump anytime i wanted to bump.Don't know what happened since none of the settings were messed with.

[IdanB]

As mentioned the current version only prevent 1st bump, should any1 already replied to that specific thread, current version doesnt prevent the bump. When next version is released, i'll have in it the feature as described by vithorius (it's already on the TO-DO's list) (read up few posts above)

[jaymanfromTFX]

Ok sorry mis understood what you meant.Thought you were meaning it will work on new threads but not just for the first bump.Thanks

[IdanB]

modification updated - now 2nd attempt to reply again after already replied will require to meet with x time rule again.

[jaymanfromTFX]

cool i am testing it out now.One thing i noticed is when you set the time is it is an hour off.So if i set for 12hrs it really makes them wait 11. So to set for 12hrs you must put 13h instead of 12h.Not that big of problem but just wanted to let you know about it.

[IdanB]

cool i am testing it out now.One thing i noticed is when you set the time is it is an hour off.So if i set for 12hrs it really makes them wait 11. So to set for 12hrs you must put 13h instead of 12h.Not that big of problem but just wanted to let you know about it.

it's probably the "daylight saving time feature" thingy. perhaps i'll allow it as admincp feature on next version.

[jaymanfromTFX]

Make sense, seems to be working great thanks.Nice mod!

[vithorius]

Dear IdanB,

I forgot to mention that my board is using vBulletin v 3.6.11.

What happens is that when I try to upgrade your hack to this new version, I get an SQL error and the upgrade fails... :confused: :(


3.6.11: Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE `forum` ADD `prevent_bump_enabled` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '0',
ADD `prevent_bump_min_time` VARCHAR( 10 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '14d';

MySQL Error: ->error

Error Number : ->errno

Date : Wednesday, June 24th 2009 @ 01:37:10 PM

Script : http://www.****.net/admincp/plugin.php?do=productimport

Referrer : http://www.****.net/admincp/plugin.php?do=productadd

IP address: ***.***.***.***>

Username : *****

Classname : vB_Database

Note: The asterisks (*) were added by me.

[IdanB]

have you uninstalled first and only after installed or tried to install over existing ?

[vithorius]

have you uninstalled first and only after installed or tried to install over existing ?
Glup...! :o :D Lame me...! :eek:

I was trying to install over the existing one...


Another question: The hack prevents the first and the second attempt to bump the thread... How about the 'next' times, if the user tries to invalid-bump a third, a fourth, a fifth time, etc...?

[jaymanfromTFX]

It is working fine for me for every time, not just the 2nd. I have been testing it for about 4 days and it has worked every time.

[IdanB]

Glup...! :o :D Lame me...! :eek:

I was trying to install over the existing one...


Another question: The hack prevents the first and the second attempt to bump the thread... How about the 'next' times, if the user tries to invalid-bump a third, a fourth, a fifth time, etc...?

Yes, it will prevent any "double posting" from author of thread, regardless of number of posts, meaning the author of thread cannot do 2 replies to his own thread one after another, he needs some1 else to reply to be able to reply to himself again :)

[spankaveli]

can this be setup to affect only certain subforums?

[vithorius]

can this be setup to affect only certain subforums?
Yes! :up:

[ageurtse]

When i translate this very nice peace of a hack, all is translated but Days, Hours Minutes and seconds

how do i translate these, when i search my board these words are translated to dutch (dag(en) etc.)

where do i change these words




U mag niet binnen de vastgestelde tijd uw eigen aanbieding omhoog sturen. Wacht 2 Day(s), 22 Hour(s), 43 Minute(s), 10 Second(s) voordat u uw advertentie opnieuw kunt opwaarderen

[IdanB]

That text currently inside the core code:


if ( $days_diff > 0 ) $time_remains = "$days_diff Day(s)";
if ( $hours_diff > 0 ) $time_remains .= ", $hours_diff Hour(s)";
if ( $mins_diff > 0 ) $time_remains .= ", $mins_diff Minute(s)";
if ( $secs_diff > 0 ) $time_remains .= ", $secs_diff Second(s)";


For next revision i'll take this "outside" of hack into phrase(s).
regards.

[phonexpo]

Installed. + I changed the phrase so it reads "You are not allowed to reply to your own thread before the minimum allowed time has passed. You may try edit your last post. Please wait , 21 Hour(s), 6 Minute(s), 10 Second(s) before attempting to reply to your own thread.", to stop spammers.

:)

Thanks

[ageurtse]

where do i find this code ?

[IdanB]

where do i find this code ?

Inside plugin called "Prevent bump".
Should there be problem for you to change code, please allow few days for next rev update, i'll have it as phrase, so it's easy for you to translate.

[ageurtse]

no that is not a issue, i can change it. thanks

[ageurtse]

i have i problem, when i uninstalled this mod and nexttime i wish to alter a usergroup i get this error message.
what could be done to prevent this error happend

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.2:

Invalid SQL:
UPDATE vb3_usergroup SET

### UPDATE QUERY GENERATED BY fetch_query_sql() ###
`title` = 'Moderators',
`description` = '',
`usertitle` = 'Beheerder',
`opentag` = '<FONT COLOR=\"#B113DE\">',
`closetag` = '</FONT>',
`passwordexpires` = '0',
`passwordhistory` = '0',
`forumpermissions` = '16777215',
`genericpermissions` = '1559230459',
`attachlimit` = '0',
`pmquota` = '500',
`pmpermissions` = '7',
`pmsendmax` = '20',
`pmthrottlequantity` = '0',
`calendarpermissions` = '63',
`wolpermissions` = '31',
`adminpermissions` = '1',
`genericpermissions2` = '1',
`genericoptions` = '63',
`profilepicmaxwidth` = '400',
`profilepicmaxheight` = '400',
`profilepicmaxsize` = '565535',
`avatarmaxwidth` = '80',
`avatarmaxheight` = '80',
`avatarmaxsize` = '20000',
`signaturepermissions` = '235263',
`sigpicmaxwidth` = '500',
`sigpicmaxheight` = '100',
`sigpicmaxsize` = '20000',
`sigmaxrawchars` = '1400',
`sigmaxchars` = '700',
`sigmaxlines` = '0',
`sigmaxsizebbcode` = '7',
`sigmaximages` = '0',
`albumpermissions` = '255',
`albumpicmaxwidth` = '2048',
`albumpicmaxheight` = '2048',
`albumpicmaxsize` = '10000000',
`albummaxpics` = '100',
`albummaxsize` = '0',
`usercsspermissions` = '63',
`visitormessagepermissions` = '63',
`socialgrouppermissions` = '65535',
`maximumsocialgroups` = '5',
`groupiconmaxsize` = '565535',
`bumpthreadspermissions` = '0',
`bumpthreadslimit` = '',
`itraderpermissions` = '3'
WHERE usergroupid=7;

MySQL Error : Unknown column 'bumpthreadspermissions' in 'field list'
Error Number : 1054
Request Date : Friday, July 17th 2009 @ 04:40:32 PM
Error Date : Friday, July 17th 2009 @ 04:40:32 PM
Script :
Referrer :
usergroupid=7
IP Address : xxxx
Username : xxxx
MySQL Version : 4.1.15-Debian_0.dotdeb.1-log

[IdanB]

That problem could NOT have been caused by my mod in under ANY situtation.

If you look into xml product you'll see i DONT have ANY mention of field named 'bumpthreadspermissions' (either in SELECT or ALTER query).

My mod INSTALLER adds 2 field: prevent_bump_enabled` and `prevent_bump_min_time`
My mod UNISNTALLER remove these 2 (and ONLY these 2).

Looking in the mysql error you've posted here - it's looks something (or some one) has deleted that column from your table db, but under no way that could be resulted from my mod.

[ageurtse]

oke, sorry i thought it was this mod. after searching a bit more and googled for the right words i vind the solution.

thanks.

i deinstalled this mod because users who sold there good thay couldn't add a message within three days that is has been sold. they have to ask an administrator to do this.

or......

you could make it so that when the owner gets an popup screen where he can select some options, like sold, reserverd or somthing else.
and this is added to the post.

becaus of the lack of this it is inusable for us.

[OsideRida06]

Thanks this is perfect for my forums. Installed!

[Asland]

I really need this hack, it's something I've been looking for almost 3+ years now. Only a slight problem for us though if maybe you could add this to the functionality. We only allow 1 post for the user in 24 hours, regardless if someone responds to it or not. If we could limit it to just 1 post every 24 hours for the thread that would be wonderful. Right now it's catching just a few, but we have a very very active forum so most of our threads get responded to. Which means that someone is almost guaranteed to get a response from someone else and it makes this hack not as effective as it could be for our forums.

Thank you!

[IdanB]

@asland - I'll add it as feature for next rev update.

[bigcurt]

Any chance of an update soon? Thanks.

[Gav-n-Tn]

How do I change the message that the poster will see in the pop up? Can I customize it to say exactly what I want?

[Gav-n-Tn]

I tried the mod and it did not work at all. Went with the one from Paul. Works fine

[Budweiser]

Good stuff !!

This double post/bump prevention hack is golden !!

Thank you !!
.
.

[MtEden]

@asland - I'll add it as feature for next rev update.

Any word on that update?

[aleclee]

Any word on that update?or on 4.0 compatibility?

[Joey Link]

Yeah, I can't switch to VB4 until this mod is compatible.

[Dingo14]

any word on the usergroups exclusions for this mod thanks

[Artes_Marciales]

Gread mod, thanks!!! : )

[Joey Link]

Still waiting for this to be ported to VB4 so I can upgrade my site :(

[Joey Link]

Anyone?

[Gav-n-Tn]

Anyone? Why are you waiting on this mod to upgrade to vB4? Refer back a couple of posts. There's another one that does the job just fine.

[Joey Link]

Which one? The doublepost prevention?

[Gav-n-Tn]

Which one? The doublepost prevention? The one by Paul M.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=233234&highlight=double+post

[Joey Link]

Unfortunately that one only applies to double posts. I need something like this that applies to all users, not just the OP or the last poster in a thread.

[www.nofal]

Good Work

[osix]

is there any option of this for VB4 user,

any good Bump related mod for VB4

[ladytechlv2012]

Great feature!

[badbob1337]

horrible addon. perfect idea but the rest......

[vithorius]

horrible addon. perfect idea but the rest......

Just what happened? This mod is just PERFECT! Are you using vB 3.x or 4.x?