mod cross posting.

[Carnage]

I was doing some work for a client a few days ago and told them to have a look on here to see if there were any mods they needed installing. They came back to me and said that there wasn't a mod available for what they wanted. When I looked, there was however it was posted in the vb 3.7 section, not 3.8 however the mod was listed as compatible with 3.8

I think there needs to be some slight reorganization such that threads for mods get cross posted to all the relevant forums so if a mod is available for vb 3.5,3.6,3.7 and 3.8 it'll turn up in all the mod forums for those versions.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

It is up to the author in which forums he releases his work.

[Carnage]

Make it optional then; a simple check box for which forums the mod should appear in.

I have a chess modification; it works on 3.6, 3.7 and probably 3.8 - I've not tested it there yet. I'd like it in both forums; however posting two threads means support requests get split between two threads; installs and ratings get split between two threads etc etc

I wasn't 100% clear with my original suggestions - what i actually meant was to have a thread appear in all the relevant forums - the SAME thread.

Lets say i was to release a mod now for 3.8 and 3.9 was to come out, i test the mod on 3.9 and it works just as well as 3.8 I should be able to go back to the mod thread, check the 3.9 box and it'd show up in both the 3.8 forum and the 3.9 forum.

[Paul M]

A thread can only be in one forum, thats basic forum functionality.

[TheLastSuperman]

A thread can only be in one forum, thats basic forum functionality.

BUT... (lol) is there not one of you uber genious coders who can tweak or modify the system to do such? Just saying... it would be the most useful mod her e on vb.org that's for sure (IMO!!!! IMO!!!! :p) and I have seen an older mod which shared forums between the two... posts on the other forum would show up as guest and perhaps you could make any post automatically go to the original mod thread for support if supported or just for conversation between the users of the mod etc and then any replies to the OEM thread but visible in the other threads if the mod was compatible w/ other versions. Just an idea to tinker with if your interested and I know it would require some tweaking to other mod son here so sorry for bringing it up if no time to do so. I cannot see your code or tinker in a child style else I might but honestly Paul M, your a better coder than me, I'll admit one when I see one.

None of my post was meant to come across wrong but please consider this as I have seen comments regarding this since I have been on here Sept of 08' and I'm sure others thought about it and mentioned it long before that.

Mike

[nexialys]

BUT... (lol) is ther enot one of you uber genious coders who can tweak or modify the system to do such? Just saying...

actually guys up there are not the admins because they are genius, but because they are volunteer and available, and representing the community thoughts...
(ok, they can have a bit of genius someway)

... and the more you modify the system, the less it is the system... convert the matrix and it will become a mattress...

[TheLastSuperman]

Ahh but 3.6 to 3.7 to 3.8, were those not improved upon or in your terms modified to become a mattress ;) eh? :D

Volunteers, but most have taken the time to become very well associated w/ the system and creating mods of their own! I know it would require more work but I know this can be done, doing it sooner rather than later would only make more appreciate the site that much more, hello I love it now and can manage but having to post the same mod 3-4 times just to have some member put me down for doing so when "members" only look in 3.7 for a mod when a 3.6 or 3.8 mod will work but since it was not posted they did not know or even attempt. The simplest things are often the most complicated whether you see it or not, so again I'm just asking and regardless will appreciate any effort of even another "forum functionality" from Paul (love you bud but :p).

Mike

[Paul M]

Im afraid that for the moment we are stuck with the current system, and a thread will only appear in one forum. If the site was being designed from scratch then we would not use such a system. :)

[TheLastSuperman]

Well when are you redesigning it???















































J/K :erm: I know :p

Point well taken :(

Mike

[Carnage]

There are numerous ways that this could be implemented; utalising thread prefixes, tags or perhaps the move post functionality. If there was created a mod that allowed thread redirects to be posted directly into a forum that also updated their views and post counts etc and got bumped when there was a new post in the thread it was redirecting to; it would work out quite well.

[TheLastSuperman]

There are numerous ways that this could be implemented; utalising thread prefixes, tags or perhaps the move post functionality. If there was created a mod that allowed thread redirects to be posted directly into a forum that also updated their views and post counts etc and got bumped when there was a new post in the thread it was redirecting to; it would work out quite well.

Well then we shall have to do it, I don't have time now and I suspect Paul was being nice when posting but read his sig for more info eh? Long story short I know, you know but I do not need this on my forum and have 3 clients I'm working w/ now so to put them on hold just to tinker is a big no-no. Contact me via PM later... I will find that mod thread that let you post on one forum and it shows up on the next, perhaps it can serve a purpose if you plan on tinkering!

Mike

[Dismounted]

Getting the threads to show in multiple forum,s is actually the easy part. The hard part is getting the navigation breadcrumbs, etc. right.

[Paul M]

Well when are you redesigning it???

As posted elsewhere, no major changes are likely until the summer. :)

[Carnage]

Then I hope that this is something you'll take into consideration in the summer.

As mods will hopefully be compatible with a wide range of vb versions being able to put them in more than one category will be important.

[nexialys]

i think the only real solution would be to exploit the Tags engine to maximum... members can not add tags but can use them for their releases, so they can tag their scripts to be in version 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8 etc... so if you click the 3.6 tag, you have a list of all the releases within that version, no need to change any structure inside vBulletin...

so the filtering inside this site would be :

- thread prefix: to indicate the kind of addon we have
- thread tags: to indicate the versions you have

with that, no more need of sub-sub-sub-forums...

[Carnage]

vborg is using 3.6; before tags were introduced

[nexialys]

hey, it's a long term plan... lol

vb 4.0 will be released by the end of the year, maybe it will be time to drive an upgrade of vb.org ...

so if everybody is ok with this idea, we have like 6 months to build the bridge between these two generations... if someone say "we do not have time to make it so..." i would suggest to let the competent guys do it.

[Paul M]

I think this has been posted elsewhere, but even if not, its not really hard to work out that the next upgrade of vb.org will almost certainly be to 4.0, not 3.8.

[TheLastSuperman]

I think this has been posted elsewhere, but even if not, its not really hard to work out that the next upgrade of vb.org will almost certainly be to 4.0, not 3.8.

I can't WAIT :D

I bet all of the staff who are coders/designers already have some fantastic ideas... I'll be like a kid in a new candy store and Paul, your my Willy Wonka :p

Edit: And we need a Dr. Pepper Addict showdown soon Paul, I call shenanigans on you good sir... maybe bad for my health but 2-12 packs a weekend :p

[hambil]

It's fairly solvable while keeping the current system, which is important because of all the customizations around the current system. It would be a matter of making a thread a view of a mod. That may not mean anything to most people lol - but, it just means that a mod would have it's own life somewhere in the database, and any thread about that mod would just be a 'view' of that mod. Different views into the same data.

It's sound harder and more complex than it really would be - there are some very simple and clever ways to implement such an idea.

Anyway, I remember when we had a lot less than we do now - before the current mod system was built. It's pretty damn nice actually :)