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vB.Org System
09-18-2008, 07:20 PM
As you may have noticed, we have just upgraded the vBulletin.com forums to version 3.8 in order to get some initial production testing.

We'll post more details as time allows, but for now please have a look around and give some of our new features a try. Look out for social group discussions, lightbox navigation, the new 'Community' menu on the navbar and lots more!

Have fun, we're sure you will.


More... (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285273&goto=newpost)

nexialys
09-18-2008, 08:48 PM
seems to be no difference right now, as there is no detail on what is new in 3.8 ???

Spank
09-18-2008, 08:52 PM
The only difference I notice is the quick reply on pms

ragtek
09-18-2008, 08:55 PM
look into the blog;)

Opserty
09-18-2008, 08:56 PM
Seems the same as always to me... though I suppose most 3.8 changes are admin side.

bobster65
09-18-2008, 09:07 PM
look into the blog;)

what does the BLOG have to do with core vb tho? The Blog is a paid addon.

Hasann
09-18-2008, 09:29 PM
don't like it no changes :(

ragtek
09-18-2008, 10:05 PM
i mean: the changes are posted in the blog;)

1. navbar: communitymenu
2. http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/group.php?
3. http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/album.php?
4. pm system

Wayne Luke
09-18-2008, 10:09 PM
don't like it no changes :(
Actually there are over 30 new features in vBulletin 3.8.0. The developers will post more on them as they are able to.

cheat-master30
09-18-2008, 10:42 PM
The social groups and PMs are pretty big and extremely obvious changes, for the better (how you couldn't notice them being changed I don't know). Looks good though, although it needs some more features for each area of the forum/board, and it's impossible to know what moderator and admin features are new.

Lynne
09-18-2008, 10:59 PM
Go look in a thread that has multiple images - the lightbox now has a next and previous button (I think that's new, no?).

Social groups are a bit different too.

rootnik
09-18-2008, 11:46 PM
Please, take your time developers. I'm just now getting comfortable with the changes made in 3.7.

Alfa1
09-19-2008, 01:00 AM
Actually there are over 30 new features in vBulletin 3.8.0. The developers will post more on them as they are able to.
Suspense is building...

At first glance it seems quite a much less changes than the number of changes between 3.6 and 3.7 and therefore looks more like a 3.7.x
But looks may be deceiving. I wonder what's hidden in there. :)

Wayne Luke
09-19-2008, 01:03 AM
At first glance it seems quite a much less changes than the number of changes between 3.6 and 3.7 and therefore looks more like a 3.7.x

I only show 22 features added to 3.7.0... Though some of them were bigger features to be honest.

Brandon Sheley
09-19-2008, 01:44 AM
I like the changes :)

Ziki
09-19-2008, 03:37 AM
Any code changes?

Baldilocks
09-19-2008, 04:09 AM
Most of the changes I have seen in 3.8 so far have already been addressed in 3.7.x with add-ons.

The Social Group Forums, All User Albums, Better Social Group Page layout modifications for 3.7.x still look quite better than what I have seen with 3.8.0 Alpha 1 so far.

GrendelKhan{TSU
09-19-2008, 04:31 AM
can't seem to figure out how add a category pic for the social groups. and can't tell if there have been any NOTIFICATION features aded fro the albums and social groups as well.

but still...much improved can't wait to implement it :)

Vackrick
09-19-2008, 05:12 AM
erm where vbulletin 3.8.0 will be release???

RedeemedWarrior
09-19-2008, 05:14 AM
sounds good, Though i'll most likely stay with 3.7 series till 4

valdet
09-19-2008, 05:52 AM
I thought that from 3.7.x series vBulletin would be moving to vB 4.0

3.7.0 is slated to be the final major release of the vBulletin 3.x series before all forum development efforts are switched over to vBulletin 4.x, after which 3.x will receive only bug fix releases.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=163433

I don't mean to sound rude, but is this another setback from moving to vBulletin 4.0?

Baldilocks
09-19-2008, 06:02 AM
I don't think so. I think they want to differentiate all of the new features in the current version. It makes more sense to add them to a 3.8.x than screw with the maintenance releases of 3.7.x.

vip-q.com
09-19-2008, 07:04 AM
there is bug in 3.8

I can't active my account !!!

I do registered but it give me blank page :s

and my account didn't active :s

could any one post this bug in the project page ?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php

thanks

Opserty
09-19-2008, 07:06 AM
<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280752" target="_blank">http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280752</a>

Atakan KOC
09-19-2008, 07:15 AM
very nice :)

Hornstar
09-19-2008, 07:15 AM
I am so glad to see that there is now a report button in the private messages. Hooray!
:D

gamerfu
09-19-2008, 08:13 AM
I do not see the UserCP Icons as promised. :(
I am so glad to see that there is now a report button in the private messages. Hooray!
:Dagreed!

Baldilocks
09-19-2008, 08:17 AM
Well it's still in Alpha. Perhaps the UserCP icons will still be added.

Would be nice to have PNG navbar icons as well like MyBB has.

Thijmen1992
09-19-2008, 08:25 AM
Looks deffo nice.

Great work of the vBulletin Development Team!

Kinneas
09-19-2008, 08:59 AM
Some good changes :)

I don't use social groups on my forum, but I'm really going to appreciate the revamped PM system. I keep lots of PMs (in the thousands) and the only way I've been able to search through them before is by exorting to CSV and looking that way.

Thijmen1992
09-19-2008, 09:07 AM
But the changes that are made, can also be made with some plugins for 3.7.x?

Baldilocks
09-19-2008, 10:10 AM
Most of them so far.....

Kinneas
09-19-2008, 10:49 AM
But the changes that are made, can also be made with some plugins for 3.7.x?
As with any big update, some mods will still work on later versions, some won't. It all depends what's been changed, and you won't really know that until the Beta/RC is out.

Alfa1
09-19-2008, 11:53 AM
But the changes that are made, can also be made with some plugins for 3.7.x?
That is a good thing in a way: better to have code included in the standard and supported software, than added as plugins.
It seems that most of the new features are improvements of the features that where introduced with vb 3.7
I guess all the major changes will be in vb 4

Wayne Luke
09-19-2008, 12:11 PM
I do not see the UserCP Icons as promised. :(


Where was this promised?

Thijmen1992
09-19-2008, 12:12 PM
As with any big update, some mods will still work on later versions, some won't. It all depends what's been changed, and you won't really know that until the Beta/RC is out.

That is a good think in a way: better to have code included in the standard and supported software, than added as plugins.
It seems that most of the new features are improvements of the features that where introduced with vb 3.7
I guess all the major changes will be in vb 4


No, i mean that if you don't upgrade it, you can still have the same features with some mods for 3.7.x

Kinneas
09-19-2008, 12:45 PM
No, i mean that if you don't upgrade it, you can still have the same features with some mods for 3.7.x

Yes you can, but most people would much prefer to use official, supported functions, rather than third party ones. Don't get me wrong, I love vBorg and use a lot of modifications myself, but if I had the choice between an official one and a 3rd party one (which is only supported as far as the author's free time permits) it should be quite obvious which one I'd go for.

Fergal C
09-19-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm about to have someone upgrade my forum 3.6.8, should I have them upgrade to 3.8 or should I wait until it is out on stable release?

When is the stable release expected?

Kinneas
09-19-2008, 01:16 PM
3.8 hasn't been released at all yet. It's still in Alpha and is only on vb.com for testing purposes.

If you're going to upgrade soon you may as well upgrade to the latest stable version, which is currently 3.7.3 PL1

Fergal C
09-19-2008, 02:15 PM
3.8 hasn't been released at all yet. It's still in Alpha and is only on vb.com for testing purposes.

If you're going to upgrade soon you may as well upgrade to the latest stable version, which is currently 3.7.3 PL1

Thanks for the clarification.

Hitterman
09-19-2008, 04:38 PM
I will like 3.8 if it will have drastic changed from 3.7 just like 3.7 has from 3.6.x.

Wayne Luke
09-19-2008, 05:06 PM
Here is the list of changes:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog.php?b=2334

Hasann
09-19-2008, 05:18 PM
Here is the list of changes:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog.php?b=2334

Huuuuuuuuuu I like it :D

Shazz
09-19-2008, 08:06 PM
And right after a 3.8.1 :)

MadK
09-20-2008, 01:38 AM
The changes are great, but my favorite change is the lightbox "previous" and "next" buttons! :)

Vackrick
09-20-2008, 02:10 AM
I Love The changes

rapidphim
09-20-2008, 03:10 AM
changed too fast man.... just give it a go on 3.7.3 and now ready for 3.8.0 ???? why changed so fast????

Wayne Luke
09-20-2008, 04:04 AM
You do realize that 3.8.0 is only at the beginning of its testing state. It can be a while before it is released. 3.7.0 was released 5 months ago. 3.8.0 can take 2-3 months to release, depending on testing.

Vackrick
09-20-2008, 04:51 AM
i hope 3.8.0 release no more bugs.... i hoping only...

gamerfu
09-20-2008, 04:53 AM
Where was this promised?
Sorry Wayne Luke, I didn't mean to put words in the dev team's mouth. I jumped the gun! You said you would consider UserCP Icons for 4.0, sorry. :(

link below:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282371

Ray2khax
09-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Yeah you guys got to remember not every new feature can be big as the other. Just like every new video game can't be the best or no one would have awards and everyone wouldn't play different games. Also remember that some new features may be more popular than others.

Shazz
09-20-2008, 03:32 PM
You do realize that 3.8.0 is only at the beginning of its testing state. It can be a while before it is released. 3.7.0 was released 5 months ago. 3.8.0 can take 2-3 months to release, depending on testing.

Yea, Ill put my bets on 4 more months

NAZIA
09-20-2008, 04:52 PM
Asalam o Alaikum..(peace be upon you)
I like the changes.
changes are important..
I will give suggestion...
It is about users profile display..
Most of the people use Orkut community,

In visitor messages there should be AJAX reply system, So that user can reply the Visitor messages easily, without open the page of the other member..It is necessary because I have notice that many peoples are replying their visitors message in their own profile. So other people cant get the replies of their messages..I mean to say that If we are using visitor messages system It should be simple and every member can access it easily.
There should be Option in Admincp of forum manager by which Admin change the forum status Icon easily according to the relevancy of the Forum..Which always attract the user on the forum more.CYA.
Have a nice life.
Happy Ramdan
Nazia Jabeen:)

SmashinYoungMan
09-20-2008, 08:37 PM
I always enjoy having something to look forward to, so this is all good to me.

smacklan
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
More bloat and garbage not needed...disappointing to see vbulletin going down this road :(

Shazz
09-21-2008, 12:45 AM
More bloat and garbage not needed...disappointing to see vbulletin going down this road :(

More template edits, more skins to update :D

smacklan
09-21-2008, 02:34 AM
More template edits, more skins to update :D
Haha, this is true, but not the main reason for my sour tone. I just really think vb is wandering around and expending a lot of energy on stuff most board owners don't want or will never use. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling I'm not ;)

Rene Kriest
09-21-2008, 04:43 AM
vb 3.8 is great news to me and I really love the changes. I really appreciate your effort to make vb even better all the times. 3.8 will give the vb fans a small preview on what kind of functions and style is going to be implemented in the highly anticipated vb 4.

One thing that I would really like to see here at vb is a list of compatible add-ons for new vb versions when 3.8 is out for sale.

I would really like to upgrade to 3.8 (3.9/4/5/6 ;) ) when it is available but I really need to know whether most of my used 3.7.X add-ons will or won't be compatible with 3.8. Giving out such a list or maybe a feature restricted 3.8 version for testing purpose would really be an edge to me and many of the (c)raving vb fans. :)

I need to know how 3.8 works for me before upgrading. It won't make much sense to me to buy respectively upgrade from 3.7.X to 3.8 just to recognize that most of my currently used add-ons won't work. And it takes some time until coders and testers comment on add-ons threads regarding compatibility issues.

Thank you in advance!

Digital Jedi
09-21-2008, 05:10 AM
Haha, this is true, but not the main reason for my sour tone. I just really think vb is wandering around and expending a lot of energy on stuff most board owners don't want or will never use. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling I'm not ;)
I think the main reason they added these features was because of the demand of their core group of customers. More of these sites use the Social Group features then don't. Especially larger boards.

vb 3.8 is great news to me and I really love the changes. I really appreciate your effort to make vb even better all the times. 3.8 will give the vb fans a small preview on what kind of functions and style is going to be implemented in the highly anticipated vb 4.

One thing that I would really like to see here at vb is a list of compatible add-ons for new vb versions when 3.8 is out for sale.

I would really like to upgrade to 3.8 (3.9/4/5/6 ;) ) when it is available but I really need to know whether most of my used 3.7.X add-ons will or won't be compatible with 3.8. Giving out such a list or maybe a feature restricted 3.8 version for testing purpose would really be an edge to me and many of the (c)raving vb fans. :)

I need to know how 3.8 works for me before upgrading. It won't make much sense to me to buy respectively upgrade from 3.7.X to 3.8 just to recognize that most of my currently used add-ons won't work. And it takes some time until coders and testers comment on add-ons threads regarding compatibility issues.

Thank you in advance!
It's a little early for a list to be out, being that no one but the vBulletin team has access to 3.8. The 3rd party developers wouldn't know that without being able to test it, and Jelsoft is unlikely to be testing hundreds of modifications to find out either. If vB.org holds true to form, when 3.8 is released then they'll open a 3.8 modifications section. But it will be up to the respective authors of your modifications to let you know when and if they are compatible with 3.8. And by "when and if" I mean when and if they get around to it.

Paul M
09-21-2008, 07:45 AM
Yea, Ill put my bets on 4 more monthsI assume by that you mean final release. Given that vb.com is already running the Alpha, I would expect the first beta in something like 2/3 weeks.

M-Tuning
09-21-2008, 08:47 AM
Nice, Now we only need threaded PM view!

Baldilocks
09-21-2008, 02:26 PM
Nice, Now we only need threaded PM view!

You mean like SMF uses? No thanks. That has to be the worst PM system I have ever used.

M-Tuning
09-21-2008, 03:20 PM
Don't know how it works with SMF but I like how it works with phpBB

Shazz
09-21-2008, 03:23 PM
I wouldn't really like looking simular to a free forum software :o

Digital Jedi
09-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Actually, I wouldn't mind threaded PMs.

Shazz
09-21-2008, 04:52 PM
I assume by that you mean final release. Given that vb.com is already running the Alpha, I would expect the first beta in something like 2/3 weeks.
Yes the final release to the public, It seems there very careful in making sure everything is there so they don't have to send a email to everyone that they missed a small fix and a quick patch comes out moments later, which is good.
Haha, this is true, but not the main reason for my sour tone. I just really think vb is wandering around and expending a lot of energy on stuff most board owners don't want or will never use. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling I'm not ;)
Yea, I would agree. Its causing alot of less work for new forum owners who need something though and its already built in.

rapidphim
09-21-2008, 05:01 PM
I'd like to see better vBulletin default skin... the default skin is same old all over the years...

Thijmen1992
09-21-2008, 07:26 PM
Yes, a better standard skin would be great!:D

King Kovifor
09-21-2008, 07:43 PM
Yes, a better standard skin would be great!:D

A new skin won't arrive until vB 4.0

Shazz
09-21-2008, 07:56 PM
A new skin won't arrive until vB 4.0

Who designed vB3?

King Kovifor
09-21-2008, 08:11 PM
Who designed vB3?

vBulletin 3's default skin, as far as I'm away was created completely by Jelsoft, minus a few images.

The skin hasn't changed since Beta 3 due to the fact that they wanted an easier upgrade path for users without requiring redesigning skins and modifications.

vBulletin 4.x code line for the most part will be completely independent from 3.x code line and allows them the opportunity for a new default skin.

thestaton
09-22-2008, 02:45 AM
What's the time frame on 4.x?

Shazz
09-22-2008, 02:46 AM
What's the time frame on 4.x?

You can get an idea going 1 page back

Paul M
09-22-2008, 07:04 AM
I just really think vb is wandering around and expending a lot of energy on stuff most board owners don't want or will never use. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling I'm not ;)
I have no idea about most, but I would agree with you on the three boards I help admin, so for us the main thing in 3.8 that will make much difference is the PM changes.

gamerfu
09-22-2008, 07:55 AM
vBulletin 3's default skin, as far as I'm away was created completely by Jelsoft, minus a few images.

The skin hasn't changed since Beta 3 due to the fact that they wanted an easier upgrade path for users without requiring redesigning skins and modifications.

vBulletin 4.x code line for the most part will be completely independent from 3.x code line and allows them the opportunity for a new default skin.As much as I complain about template upgrades, if Jelsoft is going to do a complete redo of the style for 4.0. I am all up for it! :cool:

Thijmen1992
09-22-2008, 08:25 AM
It sounds good so far..
Now just wait for the first alpha....

Paul M
09-22-2008, 10:31 AM
Alpha 1 is already on vb.com, unless you mean public release in which case I think you are waiting for something that wont happen.

silvermerc
09-22-2008, 11:53 AM
I'd like to see the Admin panel changes. Thats the only thing im looking forward too.

shlomot
09-22-2008, 02:30 PM
In my opinion, having the ability to embed bbcodes of otherwise html tags in the social group's description is mandatory, and should be subject to the usual permissions methodology.

Please add a.s.a.p. Social groups are about user experience, and the latter is very dull with no formatting options.

Thanks for listening and for your rapid development.

smacklan
09-22-2008, 04:05 PM
I have no idea about most, but I would agree with you on the three boards I help admin, so for us the main thing in 3.8 that will make much difference is the PM changes.
Yes, saying "most board owners" probably is a stretch on my part. Most of the ones I'm aware of would be more accurate. I am liking the looks of the PM changes as well. Overall, I will say I do still trust in the development "vision" of the vb team and will continue to be a fan of the product :)

gamerfu
09-22-2008, 04:48 PM
I like the Social Networking features... :cool: Why are people complaining? Isn't Social Networking the goal of forums? :confused:

Why would you pay $60 a year for less features?I do admit User Privacy and Full Admin Control should be the Administrator's call. :)

Digital Jedi
09-22-2008, 05:42 PM
Seems like vBulletin is in a Kobayashi Maru (no-win situation) with some of their customers. When new features are added, on the one hand you have those that think the addition of those features are useless or just not necessary. And on the other you have those that think vB is stealing the good ideas of mod developers (because I guess they think they're in competition with them or something).

Taragon
09-23-2008, 12:05 AM
I assume by that you mean final release. Given that vb.com is already running the Alpha, I would expect the first beta in something like 2/3 weeks.
we thought that about the blog as well ;)

axi
09-23-2008, 03:03 PM
speaking of upgrades, howcome vbulletin.org is still using 3.6x ?

Kaelon
09-23-2008, 04:08 PM
The challenge for a sizable segment of vBulletin Customers are those of us who run "Big Boards" (which I define as more than 1,000,000 posts, and thousands of users, with hundreds of concurrent connections at peak), because the addition of optional features often are done at a premium cost of depreciating overall performance. With a sub-par search system that lags the competition badly, vBulletin should make it a priority to invest in a completely redesigned, scalable, high-performance search solution for its forum software. When free solutions, like phpBB, have a fully supported Sphinx Search integration, but the best that vBulletin can hope for is a patchwork of guesstimates by its (very loyal) userbase, there is a huge problem of scalability that makes vBulletin a less-than-ideal solution for sites that are beginning to outgrow dual-server configurations. It becomes a real client value proposition at that point: why stick with vBulletin over the competition?

Having been with vBulletin for the past decade, I am holding on to the hope that they will rise to the challenge that matches performance and scalability with new features and functionality the way that CommunityBulletin, OpenTopic, and LiquidFusion do.

King Kovifor
09-23-2008, 11:08 PM
speaking of upgrades, howcome vbulletin.org is still using 3.6x ?

Search the site feedback forum.

Orakk
09-24-2008, 01:50 AM
Actually there are over 30 new features in vBulletin 3.8.0. The developers will post more on them as they are able to.
What a nightmare for those of us just want a solid, basic & secure forum. We don't use, reputation, ratings, infractions, social groups, tags, reason for edit message, advertising etc. A global 'feature rich' on/off button or a script to revert to 36 would be the go. Great forum, don't need the rest.

Digital Jedi
09-24-2008, 02:12 AM
What a nightmare for those of us just want a solid, basic & secure forum. We don't use, reputation, ratings, infractions, social groups, tags, reason for edit message, advertising etc. A global 'feature rich' on/off button or a script to revert to 36 would be the go. Great forum, don't need the rest.
Being that everyone's needs are going to particular and specific, it would impossible to choose which features to group as "feature rich". That's kind of the point of having a feature rich forum to begin with. You get to decide what you don't want and what you do based on your specific needs.

basilrath
09-24-2008, 08:55 AM
does this mean we as customers dont recieve the 3.8?

Why demonstrate the product?

Marco van Herwaarden
09-24-2008, 09:01 AM
Customers will not get an Alpha version, but will probably be able t download beta versions.

We are not demonstrating the product on vB.com but Alpha testing.

nexialys
09-24-2008, 10:32 AM
does this mean we as customers dont recieve the 3.8?

Why demonstrate the product?
the goal is to tease the client... if you are more frustrated than teased, your best shot would be to not visit the site too much often...

Ky Kiske
09-24-2008, 11:37 AM
<-- Is Exclusively waiting for vBulletin 4.0.0 BETA

GoTTi
09-24-2008, 04:21 PM
<-- Is Exclusively waiting for vBulletin 4.0.0 BETA

why? its just gunna be the same as what you already have, just with more addons and ideas they get from vb.org coders preinstalled with a vb touch.

there isnt really anything else major they can do to the forum yet. no new technology is out.

sensimilla
09-25-2008, 06:28 AM
why? its just gunna be the same as what you already have, just with more addons and ideas they get from vb.org coders preinstalled with a vb touch.

there isnt really anything else major they can do to the forum yet. no new technology is out.

I agree, additionaly 3.8 changes are really unnoticable, dunno what for waiting 2 months.
Probably just to keep the old customers updating accounts.

Kinneas
09-25-2008, 08:54 AM
why? its just gunna be the same as what you already have, just with more addons and ideas they get from vb.org coders preinstalled with a vb touch.

there isnt really anything else major they can do to the forum yet. no new technology is out.

Lol. I seem to recall vB saying their developers tended not to go on the vborg for that very reason. Not enough to stop you still, obviously.

"no new technology is out" is a nonsensical sweeping statement. A lot of things have changed since vb3 was first released.

I suppose you and sensimilla would be happier if they just didn't bother updating it anymore and just left it to rot? Clearly a better idea than trying to keep it updated and relevant to the times.

I just love the cynical negativity lol. As if everyone is just out to take your money and has no interest in making the product better. Damned either way.

Eikinskjaldi
09-26-2008, 02:25 AM
I really think some of the larger feature sets like social groups, albums, and things like that should be opt-out. Additionally, there are a lot of things just added to the datastore that, under heavy usage, result in using a ridiculous amount of memory per script site-wide, when alleviating the mysql/disk usage from querying that information isn't worth it.

Nadeemjp
09-26-2008, 03:17 AM
hey team. thanx for the new version:).
but could i know that all the add ons or mods or hacks that i installed on 3.7.3, would they all be null and void and i will have to re-do everything again by searching for the compatible ones?

Or all the add ons for 3.7.3 would work with 3.8?

Digital Jedi
09-26-2008, 05:13 AM
hey team. thanx for the new version:).
but could i know that all the add ons or mods or hacks that i installed on 3.7.3, would they all be null and void and i will have to re-do everything again by searching for the compatible ones?

Or all the add ons for 3.7.3 would work with 3.8?
As with any update, we would just have to wait and see by checking with the individual authors of the modifications.

Alfa1
09-26-2008, 12:43 PM
The vb 3.8 bug tracker in project tools shows that all 3.8 bugs thusfar have been fixed. It seems as if it can't be long before 3.8 will be in beta. Hopefully more functionality will be added along the way.

gamerfu
09-26-2008, 04:51 PM
I always feel Jelsoft (vBulletin) is Microsoft because they update often and they are a slow turtle to gain new features. The only problem is the updates act like Microsoft, you never know when exactly to do an upgrade because a patch might come out a week later. I am happy for the schedule (patch Tuesday = M$), but I am affraid my forum is going to break everytime I upgrade. :(

The little vB releases scare me. Like 3.7.2 to 3.7.3 with all the changes, isn't the 3rd digit suppose to be a minor change, not a major change? I don't know, but the minor releases scare me just as much as the major releases. Jelsoft acts like M$, do not modify our product or buy 3rd party, just stick to the standard default templates and code we give you. A style is considered a modification, that is like saying a background I downloaded off the internet in Windows is conidered a moficiation and it isn't supported. Then what am i suppose to do? Leave the boring white style and hope Jelsoft makes 100 styles for me to choose from? :confused:

Then I feel like IP.Board is like Apple (Mac). They make few updates, yet it uses standardize hardware. They have all these cool little gadgets and cost a lot of money for upgrades. Apples are more expensive than PCs, but ppl don't realize it. Anyways, the whole point is IP.Board looks stylish and feels flexible. :cool:

And lastly, phpBB is like Linux to me. They are free and community based. A ton of nice features, but the techical support is by the community. If the community doesn't fix it, it stays broken until someone fixes it. But, those types of software/codes are open-sources and much can be accomplished. But, not much can be fixed quickly until a member of the community fixes it. So a fix can be anywhere from 1 hour to whenever. :erm:

Bottom-line: I pay for the upgrades at Jelsoft and I expect not to be scared to upgrade. And when I have a custom template, I shouldn't be scared that it might break in the future releases. :)

What a nightmare for those of us just want a solid, basic & secure forum. We don't use, reputation, ratings, infractions, social groups, tags, reason for edit message, advertising etc. A global 'feature rich' on/off button or a script to revert to 36 would be the go. Great forum, don't need the rest.

I really think some of the larger feature sets like social groups, albums, and things like that should be opt-out. Additionally, there are a lot of things just added to the datastore that, under heavy usage, result in using a ridiculous amount of memory per script site-wide, when alleviating the mysql/disk usage from querying that information isn't worth it.Turn off the features and read the change logs... simple

GoTTi
09-26-2008, 05:09 PM
Lol. I seem to recall vB saying their developers tended not to go on the vborg for that very reason. Not enough to stop you still, obviously.

"no new technology is out" is a nonsensical sweeping statement. A lot of things have changed since vb3 was first released.

I suppose you and sensimilla would be happier if they just didn't bother updating it anymore and just left it to rot? Clearly a better idea than trying to keep it updated and relevant to the times.

I just love the cynical negativity lol. As if everyone is just out to take your money and has no interest in making the product better. Damned either way.

hey im not knockin the sofrware, i love vbulletin and i push this forum software to all my clients. but whats just foolish is that every other week or month we have this new version, like gamerfu says, that alot of us feel should just be small releaes, but more as patches. but its all good. i dont renew my license unless i need to, and i tell my clients to do the same, but i have just renew it when its time to so i get the latest version. i never mentioned anything about trying to get peoples money or whatever, i just said there really is no changes. now, i did think differently a LONG time ago, but someone on vb.com i think posted a thread talking about how upset they were spending money on the forum and upgrades, and just feels there is nothing really new or worth it to keep making versions numbers and having us get renewals. once i saw this guys point, i considered it and he was kinda right. thats all im sayin.

and ofcourse vb.org developers come here. they know whats going on here. watching vbulletin grow over the years, and working with almost every version number since the 1.x days, we've all seen the software expand itself, and those noticing know that the add features are always coming after a coder here makes it. nothing wrong with making stuff here default items in the forum software, but ive always said if its gunna be done atleast give the people releasing the hacks credit for it in the credits like we see when we go into the admincp, and you see the vBulletin Developers & Contributors .

Xtrato
09-26-2008, 07:40 PM
vB Should consider alot more CSS... its getting a little(VERY) old with the whole table stuff and as well as its design , they aren't getting innovative... They need to push that much more than what its currently capable of.

Pixel-Peeps
09-26-2008, 07:56 PM
Is Profile Privacy in usercp new because i dont have that on my forum?

Alfa1
09-26-2008, 11:32 PM
vB Should consider alot more CSS... its getting a little(VERY) old with the whole table stuff and as well as its design , they aren't getting innovative... They need to push that much more than what its currently capable of.

That should be added to vb4 if I understand correctly.

hydn
09-27-2008, 11:27 AM
Please, take your time developers. I'm just now getting comfortable with the changes made in 3.7.

I'm so glad we didn't move from 3.6.11 to 3.7 lol

It was 3.6.8 when we noticed 3.7

Think we'll wait for 3.8 release to be stable at which point im sure there will be 3.9 or 4.0

basilrath
09-27-2008, 11:43 AM
With a view to........... ?

imported_pmay68
09-29-2008, 12:41 PM
Would love to see the rsv'p function added to the calendar.. I have a scooter riding website and we use this often to see who is going on one of our planned rides.. :)

gamerfu
09-29-2008, 04:19 PM
Would love to see the rsv'p function added to the calendar.. I have a scooter riding website and we use this often to see who is going on one of our planned rides.. :)This would help for online gaming, as well. :cool:

+1! :up:

siliconfinance
09-29-2008, 04:31 PM
how about a feature that allows members to search PMs ;) This SHOULD be coded as a usergroup feature so we can give to our donating members since they support the site and searching PMs would increase server load. We NEED that. I have already told vBulletin.com but we need more active members to get the message across.

King Kovifor
09-29-2008, 08:33 PM
how about a feature that allows members to search PMs ;) This SHOULD be coded as a usergroup feature so we can give to our donating members since they support the site and searching PMs would increase server load. We NEED that. I have already told vBulletin.com but we need more active members to get the message across.

3.8.0 Has search functionality for PMs.

SEOvB
09-29-2008, 08:34 PM
how about a feature that allows members to search PMs ;) This SHOULD be coded as a usergroup feature so we can give to our donating members since they support the site and searching PMs would increase server load. We NEED that. I have already told vBulletin.com but we need more active members to get the message across.

You'll be happy to hear, that i do beleive a pretty big list of PM improvements are in 3.8 and thats one of them.

Shazz
09-29-2008, 08:41 PM
You'll be happy to hear, that i do beleive a pretty big list of PM improvements are in 3.8 and thats one of them.

IMO thats still a minor change, they could just make a 3.7.4

GoTTi
10-05-2008, 08:12 AM
3.8.0 Has search functionality for PMs.


:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

now THAT is incredible

Fungsten
10-07-2008, 06:28 PM
so you don't have to scroll down after you've reached eight (?) titles. I'll get a screen shot if I can.

flOid
10-09-2008, 08:11 AM
vbulletin.com just went to vbulletin 3.8.0 Beta 1! I guess a downloadable release is on the way. :)