Which Version?

[Atakan KOC]

When I checked big-boards.com, I see that they are still using version 3.6.x and still lot of sites insist to use old versions.

So please let me know which version you are using and why still old version?

[Quillz]

I use v3.7 because I don't care what a "big board" runs.

[KTBleeding]

Well, I imagine that most sites don't want to be a myspace clone, so 3.7 is just a waste of time and energy to install and maintain.. I still see a handful of 2.x installations, because even 3.x is jam packed with a lot of unneeded features for those looking for exactly what vB is. A forum.

[cheat-master30]

I use version 3.7, because it suits my forum and my members like the features. The reasons though that big boards don't use 3.7 is likely because either:

1. They've modified the board to almost unrecognisable degrees for various features and style stuff, and it'd be a massive undertaking to upgrade, and either they can't be bothered or are slowly upgrading their forums.

2. They want mega simple features and such like.

3. License expired and they're using an owned license? Or maybe they just really don't care about the software because keeping the forum running is enough to worry about.

[iogames]

Very modified board, not worth to upgrade... some are running 3.6.8 wich success, besides 3.7x is just couple of hours newer than 3.6.10 PL3 Revision 10347 Chapter 228 Paragraph 25668 :D

and in 2 months we will have this same poll asking between 3.7x vs 3.8x :p

[Shazz]

I say big old boards are still on 3.6
There scared of whats ahead of them :D

[Brandon Sheley]

big-boards.com is a broken down dinosaur
I'm surprised it isn't running vb 2.x still..lol
I'd say most big boards are running a modified version of 3.5 or 3.6

[Kinneas]

I'd imagine a lot of big boards will just wait for 4.0 before they consider a big fat upgrade.

But yeah, I'd imagine the main reason is not needing the new 3.7 features and having so many hacks it wouldn't be worth doing.

I only run a small forum and I like to keep up-to-date, so It's 3.7 for me, even if I don't use all the new features :)

[jizwood125]

I'd prefer the vBulletin 3.7.x version.

[iogames]

Since they announced their goal to start working on 4.0... I will wait by then and re-start my site :)

[Paul M]

We recently moved to 3.7, but turned off the social networking and photo stuff as its not needed.

[legionofangels]

Very modified board, not worth to upgrade... some are running 3.6.8 wich success, besides 3.7x is just couple of hours newer than 3.6.10 PL3 Revision 10347 Chapter 228 Paragraph 25668 :D

and in 2 months we will have this same poll asking between 3.7x vs 3.8x :p

Totally true. We're expiring 3.6 is what we hear, then we hear 5 different fixes for security leaks. 18 versions later and we still have security issues, seriously what's the point of continuing to spend money if there is always going to be another security leak?

I say big old boards are still on 3.6
There scared of whats ahead of them :D

I'm not scared, it's just pointless to upgrade.

We recently moved to 3.7, but turned off the social networking and photo stuff as its not needed.

So basically there was no reason to do it at all. Thanks for the input.

[iogames]

Totally true. We're expiring 3.6 is what we hear, then we hear 5 different fixes for security leaks. 18 versions later and we still have security issues, seriously what's the point of continuing to spend money if there is always going to be another security leak?


then now you see the biz side! we paid licenses for they to keep a team on fixing leaks! :D
and that's the way how we advance ;)

[cheat-master30]

Totally true. We're expiring 3.6 is what we hear, then we hear 5 different fixes for security leaks. 18 versions later and we still have security issues, seriously what's the point of continuing to spend money if there is always going to be another security leak?



I'm not scared, it's just pointless to upgrade.



So basically there was no reason to do it at all. Thanks for the input.

One major problem with that idea... If there's a security problem in the version you're using AND the last version of 3.7, there not upgrading is putting the forum at risk of the security issue. Then, you're basically relying on them releasing a security patch for an old version...

[iogames]

One major problem with that idea... If there's a security problem in the version you're using AND the last version of 3.7, there not upgrading is putting the forum at risk of the security issue. Then, you're basically relying on them releasing a security patch for an old version...

But no version of vB has been perfect [I'm Ok with that don't take me wrong] so by the same logic, never buy a vB's license :rolleyes: [not-you but the end user]

[Paul M]

So basically there was no reason to do it at all. Thanks for the input.
Where did I say that ? Dont put words into my mouth please.

[Spank]

I'm running 3.7 and will upgrade to the newest as soon as it comes out. I have albums turned off, cos it's a pointless feature when you have photoplog.

[cheat-master30]

But no version of vB has been perfect [I'm Ok with that don't take me wrong] so by the same logic, never buy a vB's license :rolleyes: [not-you but the end user]

Huh? I'm all for them buying and using the latest version of any forum software, and I have no idea how you got to that logic...

[Ryan Ashbrook]

I always run the latest version, I even run through Beta's to have the latest technology. It's an OCD thing for me.

[Shazz]

I'm not scared, it's just pointless to upgrade.


Whats pointless about it...

[iogames]

Huh? I'm all for them buying and using the latest version of any forum software, and I have no idea how you got to that logic...

I just pointed the fact that we are paying for flawed items [Ok for me] and the Money is used to fix those flaws... [like the Donkey and the carrot allegory :D]

But is the only way this can advance! do you see the beauty!?!?!

p.s. some who doesn't understand the cycle, complaint about it... just a THOUGHT!

p.s. or Maybe we get to the point/day were we pay $180 for something 'Perfect' ;)

[legionofangels]

But no version of vB has been perfect [I'm Ok with that don't take me wrong] so by the same logic, never buy a vB's license :rolleyes: [not-you but the end user]

This was what I was going for. There never has been a version without a security leak and there won't ever be one, so at the end of the day why buy vBulletin when you can have just as much of a security issue with any other software out there that does the same thing vBulletin has.

I'm not a fanboy, I think practically, and if vBulletin has as many security issues as the other software, that's probably why major companies just take free software versions. Like you said, why pay for something that is flawed?

Where did I say that ? Dont put words into my mouth please.

You outright said it. You don't use any features that came with 3.7 aside from maybe the image resizing, which is an addon here, so there was no point to upgrade.

Don't back out of statements that you already made.

I'm running 3.7 and will upgrade to the newest as soon as it comes out. I have albums turned off, cos it's a pointless feature when you have photoplog.

Exactly, when they add new programs it eliminates the need for either vbulletin.org's modifications that members make, or you can upgrade and have the same thing.

You use photoplog on your forum just as we do, you use 3.7 because that was what they were selling when you bought it. I have photoplog like you, so why should I upgrade?

No point.

Whats pointless about it...

What reason should anyone upgrade? To have the latest version with the latest security leak?

Features that we won't use or many of you like Paul have turned off, and Spank who has a mod already that does the same thing. Hello?

I just pointed the fact that we are paying for flawed items [Ok for me] and the Money is used to fix those flaws... [like the Donkey and the carrot allegory :D]

But is the only way this can advance! do you see the beauty!?!?!

p.s. some who doesn't understand the cycle, complaint about it... just a THOUGHT!

p.s. or Maybe we get to the point/day were we pay $180 for something 'Perfect' ;)

My PS2 worked for 7 years before it broke, it cost me 200 dollars, my first pc cost 1300 dollars and lasted 7 years. Nothing is perfect, but if you're going to be hacked, you're going to be hacked. There is no software anyone will ever make that I believe will be totally flawless.

Therefore I see no need to rebuy a software when I have a copy of it. That's the advantage and difference between the software and the hardware.

Also, I was wrong my PS 2 still works, on PS2 games only, so it's on it's last legs.

But I've bought the software, copied all my images, templates and codings, in effect we have backups, if we get hacked we can just reinstall everything rather than fighting through upgrades that we don't need.

I honestly went back and forth for awhile but I kept finding another solution with help from others, or coders that made it so that I just don't need another version of vBulletin, which is awesome. I would never get sucked in by it's initial popularity, it's not like Car Insurance you really don't need to keep upgrading.

That's a delusion to keep money flowing into there company.

[iogames]

Are you high?

Nothing is wrong! is the way it is! you think vB got the bags of money under their matress? the money is gone! they use the money to make improvements...

man you worry too much...

[legionofangels]

Are you high?

Nothing is wrong! is the way it is! you think vB got the bags of money under their matress? the money is gone! they use the money to make improvements...

man you worry too much...

...and how about this for irony, but you have too much faith in people.

If you honestly think they are running a company only to use that money to make improvements, of which have never been security leak free, your own words, then your the one with the good drugs here.

They're in business to make money, just like everyone else.

[iogames]

I'm just realistic, I do business all the time and is to give my family why I think they deserve, I'm not 'evilish' chasing ppl's money and laugh alone in the darkness :cool:

And yu can get high with many things, I didn't mentioned DRUGS! I use M&Ms :D

p.s. what was the topic?

[gamerfu]

Reading everyones comments about the new features like Albums and Social Network... that stuff actually help my forums and are a great additon. I run a small site.

[Spank]

Exactly, when they add new programs it eliminates the need for either vbulletin.org's modifications that members make, or you can upgrade and have the same thing.

You use photoplog on your forum just as we do, you use 3.7 because that was what they were selling when you bought it. I have photoplog like you, so why should I upgrade?

No point.


I use 3.7 cos it's the latest version, when you buy you have the option to download an earlier version if you wish.

I don't use the albums because I have photoplog, but there are quite a few features that are very useful 3.7 has that 3.6 doesn't have, even something that there are not mods for.

If you have a license and able to download the latest version, it's worth doing because everything in 3.6 is in 3.7, and you get more.

[cheat-master30]

Reading everyones comments about the new features like Albums and Social Network... that stuff actually help my forums and are a great additon. I run a small site.

I agree with this. I have like, 200 odd social groups with 1000s of messages as well as huge amounts of albums and images and visitor messages getting used every day.

[Ryan Ashbrook]

I agree with this. I have like, 200 odd social groups with 1000s of messages as well as huge amounts of albums and images and visitor messages getting used every day.
I'm in the same boat.

[RiSiCO]

If you have/are a good programmer and know how to patch any security issues why to upgrade? I personally i know how to defend my forum but i am upgrading just for fun ^_^

[Kimmi]

3.7.2 becuz its a stable version

[iogames]

3.7.2 becuz its a stable version

" I use vBulletin 3.6.10 like vBulletin.org! :D the #1 site for vBulletiners! :up:'

[Subah]

Why is vbulletin.org still on 3.6.10 :p

[King Kovifor]

Why is vbulletin.org still on 3.6.10 :p

Paul is the only one working on the update. :p It takes a lot with the custom modifications / styles to make it 'perfect'.

[legionofangels]

Paul is the only one working on the update. :p It takes a lot with the custom modifications / styles to make it 'perfect'.

That's why upgrading isn't cool.

I can't even imagine all the coding he has to reapply on some test board to make sure it's all going to switch over properly.


I use 3.7 cos it's the latest version, when you buy you have the option to download an earlier version if you wish.

I don't use the albums because I have photoplog, but there are quite a few features that are very useful 3.7 has that 3.6 doesn't have, even something that there are not mods for.

If you have a license and able to download the latest version, it's worth doing because everything in 3.6 is in 3.7, and you get more.

It doesn't have everything 3.6 has, it has a completely different User Interface or User Profile page.

You get more, yet you're getting features that are at vb.org. I looked through and Zoints does tags and social networking and blogs, there is also a journal hack and it's basically the same thing. The image resizing was here before it was on 3.7 and the photogallery was here as well.

So I must be missing the things that 3.7 has that 3.6 doesn't. 3.6 is also going to eventually be terminated so whether you like it or not, buying when you did made it a natural choice to choose 3.7 over 3.6, because it won't be terminated or whatever in a few months or whatever date they gave for "end of life for 3.6".

[Spank]

It doesn't have everything 3.6 has, it has a completely different User Interface or User Profile page.
Different look maybe, but anything in 3.6 is in 3.7 none of the actual features have been dropped AFAIK.

You get more, yet you're getting features that are at vb.org. I looked through and Zoints does tags and social networking and blogs, there is also a journal hack and it's basically the same thing. The image resizing was here before it was on 3.7 and the photogallery was here as well.

So I must be missing the things that 3.7 has that 3.6 doesn't. 3.6 is also going to eventually be terminated so whether you like it or not, buying when you did made it a natural choice to choose 3.7 over 3.6, because it won't be terminated or whatever in a few months or whatever date they gave for "end of life for 3.6".

I'm pretty sure 3.6 being terminated never crossed my mind when I came to download, so it wasn't something that affected my choice. 3.7 will also be terminated at some point in the future, most likely at the same time as 3.6 as they'll drop support for vbulletin 3 in general at the same time most likely (just as they did with v2).

And if you're counting the stuff at vb.org, you'll have to take into consideration the mods that are available for 3.7. Not only that but most mod development goes into the newest version, so there will be no doubt plenty more things 3.7 will have that 3.6 doesn't have.

[dethfire]

What reason should anyone upgrade? To have the latest version with the latest security leak?


Yes please, I'd rather have a new security problem that fewer people know about than an old leak that has been exposed and abused for years. Wouldn't you?

You get more, yet you're getting features that are at vb.org.

If you want to trust some kid in middle school in his parents basement who could disappear any day then have fun. I'd rather have actual support and reliablity. btw are you still running windows 3.1?

[King Kovifor]

If you want to trust some kid in middle school in his parents basement who could disappear any day then have fun. I'd rather have actual support and reliablity. btw are you still running windows 3.1?

Hey! I was that kid. LOL. Just not in the basement. :p

[legionofangels]

Yes please, I'd rather have a new security problem that fewer people know about than an old leak that has been exposed and abused for years. Wouldn't you?

If you want to trust some kid in middle school in his parents basement who could disappear any day then have fun. I'd rather have actual support and reliablity. btw are you still running windows 3.1?

A neverending security problem makes continually purchasing something a bad investment. It actually promotes the use of free forum software rather than paying for something that is simply going to have more security leaks down the road.

I see you have a lot of faith in the vb coders here that made those modifications, thats a laugh.

[Ziki]

3.6,because 3.7 is way too full of features,seems a bit messy to me.

[legionofangels]

Not even 7 days after my last post a new release.

In that release email they also mention another release the next week after, 3.6.11, and 3.7.?

I think I've proved my point, but I guess they might not be able to terminate 3.6 as soon as they would have wanted.

[iogames]

Not even 7 days after my last post a new release.

In that release email they also mention another release the next week after, 3.6.11, and 3.7.?

I think I've proved my point, but I guess they might not be able to terminate 3.6 as soon as they would have wanted.

The first thing I thought when I received the upgrade notification [besides my regular Liver's pain :mad: ] was 'Legion of Angels gonna be mad...'

we already are in v899 if they count correctly :D

[Vindictive]

3.6.10 ftw.

[Madlike]

vBulletin 3.7.3 PL1

[Baldilocks]

I still use 3.7.0. :) Works for me. Besides, Big-Boards is pretty much abandoned and i think TheBiggestBoards is going to outdo them soon. (At least being up to date.)

[Wayne Luke]

One big thing about 3.6.X that people seem to be forgetting is that as of the end of next month, it is End of Life. This means no more versions, bug fixes or security patches for it. While we will try to continue supporting it, the answer to a support question may well be, "You'll need to upgrade to 3.7.x" to fix that."

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268829

[Vindictive]

3.6.x - everything just looks better IMO. Easier to navigate...

[legionofangels]

The first thing I thought when I received the upgrade notification [besides my regular Liver's pain :mad: ] was 'Legion of Angels gonna be mad...'

we already are in v899 if they count correctly :D

You thought right.

One big thing about 3.6.X that people seem to be forgetting is that as of the end of next month, it is End of Life. This means no more versions, bug fixes or security patches for it. While we will try to continue supporting it, the answer to a support question may well be, "You'll need to upgrade to 3.7.x" to fix that."

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268829

Keep the never fully secured software, money machine rollin :down:.

[r1s1n]

I'm gonna try 3.7.x then..

[iogames]

and why we didn't receive our weekly patch then? :confused:

[KTBleeding]

They're really killing 3.6 entirely?

Not that you haven't been making them a lot lately, Jelsoft, but bad move. Really bad move.

[cheat-master30]

I don't see why. All 3.7 specific options are completely disableable, it's likely more secure, and the newest additions better coded and it has more features and stuff for the typical buyer. Don't say that's going to annoying any big forums, because the last time I checked, early versions like version 1, version 2 and version 3-3.5 were end of life for a long time, yet it didn't stop anyone from using them...

[KTBleeding]

Because the only reason to upgrade to 3.7 is if you want to make a myspace clone.. What about those of us who don't care for myspace, or the hassle of trying to run our own? What about those of us who want just a forum. 2.x is gone, 3.6 is the next best supported thing.

3.6 isn't even two versions old. To not update security risks for it is ridiculous. I'm not going to install 3.7, ever.. I guess that's my choice.

[iogames]

Because the only reason to upgrade to 3.7 is if you want to make a myspace clone.. What about those of us who don't care for myspace, or the hassle of trying to run our own? What about those of us who want just a forum. 2.x is gone, 3.6 is the next best supported thing.

3.6 isn't even two versions old. To not update security risks for it is ridiculous. I'm not going to install 3.7, ever.. I guess that's my choice.

I'm with you... :up:

[cheat-master30]

Can't you just disable the new features? I mean, if Sitepoint has upgraded, I wouldn't see most business sites having a problem with it...

[Baldilocks]

I love the features of 3.7 over 3.6.x.