vBulletin 3.7.1 Released

[vB.Org System]

vBulletin 3.7.1

It is four weeks today since the 'gold' release of vBulletin 3.7.0. In that time, we have been busy squashing the inevitable collection of bugs that get reported after large numbers of customers deploy a new major version to their servers.

We would like to take this opportunity to convey the details of a new release schedule that we will now be rolling out.
Scheduled Maintenance Releases

In order to make our maintenance release schedule more predictable for customers, and in an attempt to ensure that bug fixes are passed on to users in a timely fashion, we will now be implementing a regime of pre-scheduled maintenance releases.

A maintenance release is classified as one that contains day-to-day bug fixes that do not include serious data loss issues or security flaws. They are designated (usually) by an incrementing of the third version digit, such as 3.7.1, 3.7.2, 3.7.3 etc.

From now on, the longest time customers will ever wait for bug fixes to be released will be two months.

Toward the end of each month, the developers will evaluate the quantity and severity of the bugs found and fixed in the previous month. If there has been an abnormally high number of bugs reported, or the severity of some of the bugs fixed is considered to warrant an early release, the next maintenance version will be brought forward and will be released to customers on the final Tuesday of that month.

If the quantity and severity of bugs is not unusual, the maintenance version will be released on the final Tuesday of the month, two months following the previous maintenance version.

Security Flaws and Data-Loss Bugs

As usual, we will any fix security flaws and serious data loss bugs as soon as we become aware of their existence, and will do a release as soon as the fix is implemented and tested.

Wherever possible, this will be done in the form of a Patch Level (PL) release, where only a small number of files are updated and no upgrade script is required, but when this is not possible, a full release will be performed, as was the case with 3.6.10 and 3.7.0 Release Candidate 4.
Notable Changes and Improvements


New Settings
Allow Owners to Delete Social Group if Empty
This option will allow any group owner to delete a Social Group if they are the only member of that group (even if they lack the "Can Delete Own Social Groups" permission)
Thread Tag Banned Words
These words will be checked in addition to those listed in includes/searchwords.php to form a list of words whose use is banned in tagging.
Thread Tag Allowed Words
Words entered here will be allowed as tags, regardless of whether or not their use would be otherwise disallowed due to length, censorship, commonality etc.
Tag Cloud: Build Usergroup
The tag cloud pulls together data from threads in many forums. Users may not be able to see all the threads that make up the tag cloud results. With this option, you can force the tag cloud to be built as if it were viewed by a particular usergroup.
Feature Improvements

Option to control deletion of empty social groups.
Previously, users without permission to delete their own group could always delete the group if no one else was a member of the group. This caused a potential loophole, related to kicking members from the group. There is a new option to control whether owners can delete empty groups without the normal delete group permissions.

Tag delimiter now customizable.
Board administrators can now customer the delimiter used for tagging threads. The comma will still always be used, but this allows administrators to specify a language-specific delimiter (like an Arabic comma) or change to use spaces to separate tags.

Customizable "good words" and "bad words" lists for tags.
Administrators can now specify words that they always want to allow as tags, regardless of commonality or length ("good words"). They can also specifically list words that would be valid tags, but shouldn't be allowed ("bad words"). Be aware that these settings are for exact matches only, not tags that contain particular words.

Tachy Support for Visitor Messages and Picture Comments
Visitor messages and picture comments now fully support the Tachy Goes to Coventry global ignore system.

Upload Memory Improvements
The way file uploads are handled have been re-written in order to reduce memory usage, it is now possible to upload an attachment of several hundred megabytes while only using a few kilobytes of memory. This new method only works when attachments are stored in the filesystem.

Upgrading from Previous Versions

3.7.1 is a maintenance release. We recommend that all customers running prior versions of vBulletin 3.7 upgrade to benefit from bug fixes and stability improvements.

Full instructions for upgrading vBulletin are available here. (http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/upgrade)

PHP and MySQL Requirements

Please note that vBulletin 3.7.x requires at least PHP 4.3.3 and MySQL 4.0.16 or later.

However, we recommend that vBulletin 3.7.x is run on PHP 5.2.6 with APC (or a similar opcode cache) and MySQL 5.0.51 for best performance and stability.

End of Life for PHP 4

The PHP group has announced the end of life for PHP 4. We strongly recommend that customers update their servers to PHP 5.2.6 if they are still running PHP 4. vBulletin 3.7.1 supports PHP 5 without any problems, though you may need to disable strict mode for MySQL, see here (http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/editconfig) on how to enable 'force_sql_mode'.

Note: We will continue to support PHP 4 in the vBulletin 3 series.

Download vBulletin 3.7.1

As usual, vBulletin 3.7.1 is available for all customers with valid, active licenses to download from the vBulletin Members' Area.

vBulletin Members Area (http://members.vbulletin.com/)


More... (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273299&goto=newpost)

For support questions, please use the appropriate forums on vBulletin.com

[veenuisthebest]

wow.. i am the first one to read it !!

[Loget]

im number 2! im sticking with 3.7.0

[Devid_jj]

Im 3 :)
and the patch will not be for the transition from 3.7 to 3.7.1?

[veenuisthebest]

none of MY edited templates had been changed ... thats just soo good .. I hate reverting my customization !!

[H_A_R_R_Y]

thanks

[ExTincTi0N]

Thanks for the great update guys.
I will upgrade as soon as I get home from school today.

[choccyclaire]

Ah, not again. :eek:

[Neutral Singh]

Done!!

[steve1966]

Thanks for the new version

[CurtisK]

ooo great. NO template edits. i love the releases with no template edits

thanks installing now (although i had to renew for upgrades :S)

[veenuisthebest]

ooo great. NO template edits. i love the releases with no template edits

thanks installing now (although i had to renew for upgrades :S)
there are template edits. You missed this (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1570309&postcount=2) it seems

[steve1966]

there are template edits. You missed this (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1570309&postcount=2) it seems


does that mean we have to revert all the tempates before updating?

[RC.]

Great, job...

[iogames]

Wow...

[LeroyP]

cool, now does anyone know where I can find DETAILED instructions on how to do an upgrade? The "full instructions" listed above in that link were just not instructional at all.

[King Kovifor]

does that mean we have to revert all the tempates before updating?

No, you can update then revert the templates (not required) or incorporate the changes.

cool, now does anyone know where I can find DETAILED instructions on how to do an upgrade? The "full instructions" listed above in that link were just not instructional at all.

Pretty much upload files, run the upgrade script, and make template edits.

[LeroyP]

No, you can update then revert the templates (not required) or incorporate the changes.



Pretty much upload files, run the upgrade script, and make template edits.

when you upload them does it overwrite the existing files? what upgrade script? Template edits? Isnt there DETAILED instructions somewhere? This is all greek to me.

[Pcoders]

you will notice after upgrade. in your admin cp warns you of templates out of date..simply click the link and revert the templates.

it does over write the old templates. so if u have any customized, they will be lost. just a warning. compare temps before u revert. imo

sure wish there was a way that it would keep are customized add ons

my custom skins are what drives me crazy, im ready to pull them all off the site. getting tired of fixing them with every release. lmao

just last night i updated to 3.7.0, go figure:eek:

thanks for heads up on last tues of month now, at least i can time my fixes some now.

[RobDog888]

<font color="darkgreen">Say its good to have frequent updates for security flaws but to have to upgrade every 2 months is a nightmare since upgrading is not always th easiest thing.

I would have rather seen patches for security holes and upgrades less frequent.</font>

[Lee Wallace]

My board is only a week or so old and still being tweaked before "launch". I'm running a skin as well. Just upgraded and only one template needed to "revert" and it wasn't one that I have never edited before. Smooth upgrade. Was worried, but now I'm extremely relieved...

[Jase2]

Upgraded! Smooth as butter.

[Reeve of shinra]

Say its good to have frequent updates for security flaws but to have to upgrade every 2 months is a nightmare since upgrading is not always th easiest thing.

I would have rather seen patches for security holes and upgrades less frequent.

If the release doesn't address anything you need fixed, then skip it and do the next one.

[Smitty]

when you upload them does it overwrite the existing files? what upgrade script? Template edits? Isnt there DETAILED instructions somewhere? This is all greek to me. Read http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/

[cafenetland]

thx guys. we love you so much.

just installed.

[leanh]

Very Good !I am will make to looked up guiltily zero! I see mistake a number of sheets VBB abounded with

[projectego]

Woo-hoo! I'll be updating as soon as possible. :)

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Please be aware that the initial 3.7.1 package have been updated:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1570526&postcount=5

We have found an error in the 3.7.1 package that may cause PHP warnings when posting a message. As of this post, we have updated the package to include this fix.

The updated file is includes/functions_databuild.php. See this bug report for a manual fix:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php?issueid=25623

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1570715&postcount=6
Unfortunately, two more issues have come to light that have required a package update.

Includes/adminfunctions.php was modified to fix an issue with creating users via the administrators control panel.
Includes/class_vurl.php was modified to fix an issue when using reCAPTCHA as a human verification method.

We recommend you download the package again to retrieve the latest version of these files if you are affected by these issues. Apologies for any inconvenience this has caused.

[Blue-Inc]

Tip top. Thanks, going to be upgrading this evening! :)

[readjono]

I've updated by it still says I'm running 3.7.0?

Edit: Wrong directory :D

[Jase2]

I really hate the new updates every two months. That means I'll have to do a ton of work, templates edits, ect. (because I have a custom style).

Just trying to get more people renew the members area license and earn more money! Very disappointing.

readjono, it said I was still running 3.7.0 -- I just left it a few minutes, refreshed the page and it changed the version number.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Nobody is forcing you to install the 2-monthly updates.

[DJTREX]

thanks for this new version of vbulletin
but why vbulletin.org don't upgrade to vbulletin 3.7.1!???!!!!

[Jase2]

Nobody is forcing you to install the 2-monthly updates.

But you should always run the latest version anyway. What if one is a security patch? I'll have no choice to upgrade. Failed attempt IMO.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

If a security issue is discovered, then it will be released with an PL version, not during a scheduled bi-monthly update. All explained in the first post.

[Jase2]

I have my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. I've seen a lot of unhappy people on vbulletin.com, too. Not only that, but here at vbulletin.org. Threads just get closed, so there is no point discussing...

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Maybe if you had an opinion that wasn't already addressed in the announcement?

Stating that you don't want to install a new version every 2 month, has been replied to. You keep trying to make your point by introducing security updates into the debat, which already is covered in the announcement.

You are free to give normal constructive feedback and opinions, but if you just ignore the announcement and continue on the rant you have started, then i don't see how i can give a more accurate answer then what is already posted.

[Floris]

Everybody is allowed to have an opinion, you're even allowed to post it on a site as part of the discussion, providing constructive feedback with arguments. As with every situation you can't always please everybody. In this case you can't seem to be pleased. Thank you for expressing yourself I think everybody by now knows what you had to say. Leave some space for others to reply to this thread too dude.

[Jase2]

You keep trying to make your point by introducing security updates into the debat, which already is covered in the announcement.

Eh? I only mentioned it once, and it was an opinion. How have I ignored the announcement? I read the announcement and fully understand it. I just wanted to give my opinion in this thread, I thought that is what it is for? Is it not?

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Everybody is allowed to have an opinion, you're even allowed to post it on a site as part of the discussion, providing constructive feedback with arguments. As with every situation you can't always please everybody. In this case you can't seem to be pleased. Thank you for expressing yourself I think everybody by now knows what you had to say. Leave some space for others to reply to this thread too dude.

Floris, I know that everyone cannot be pleased, I was merely expressing my opinion. I am leaving space for others to reply, I'm not stopping them, am I? I don't want to get into argument how about this, but when someone replies to one of my certain posts, then I have to reply and give my thoughts again. Sorry, I guess.....

[TheInsaneManiac]

Eh? I only mentioned it once, and it was an opinion. How have I ignored the announcement? I read the announcement and fully understand it. I just wanted to give my opinion in this thread, I thought that is what it is for? Is it not?

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Floris, I know that everyone cannot be pleased, I was merely expressing my opinion. I am leaving space for others to reply, I'm not stopping them, am I? I don't want to get into argument how about this, but when someone replies to one of my certain posts, then I have to reply and give my thoughts again. Sorry, I guess.....


You make a good point. If someone replies to you, you can't just leave them hanging. Your a coder and you are use to replying to every little post no matter how small the problem. You have expectations and I can see you are above them. I do agree with your points. All though I will always be renewing because I love updates I do have to say I hate the updates that cause me to revert my templates. This is an issue with me considering I have a highly customized template. Of course ever since VBulletin 3.7 hit most plugins are all plugin and no template edits so it isn't as bad as it use to be.

[nothing4me]

Hi,

I updated to 3.7.1, but in the admincp, it remains as 3.7.0. Is this normal?

[Jase2]

It did that on me, I just left it a few minutes, refreshed and it updated the version number.

[nothing4me]

It did that on me, I just left it a few minutes, refreshed and it updated the version number.NEvermind. My FTP broke the connection and the files never uploaded. :p I'm going to do it now.

[Baldilocks]

This upgrade screwed with my custom skins royally. Even after reverting affected templates, it totally ruined the whole forum. LOL.

Luckilly I had a backup.

Looks like I will be staying with 3.7.0 for a while. Come on vBulletin-- make upgrades easier already would you??

[Jase2]

If you're using a custom skin, then reverting the templates, obviously it is going to mess your skin up. This is because it is reverting to the default vBulletin code, and your style maybe coded slightly different. You will need to compare, then do the updates yourself. Sorry.

[KeyStalker]

I don't mean to be a suck up or anything, but I agree with both sides of view.

I mean, I love the updates, and it will surely help out and will benefits tons of users.

At the same time, i'm with jase2, I may not have a "custom" skin, but every two months is a pain in the rear end, I mean, I love to my forum to the latest version, just makes me feel safer, happier, and please.

Again, love the updates keep them coming, but perhaps these updates should only come when a security thread has occurred. This will eliminate any chances of vb.com updates creating a security breach. This way whenever an update is available it's meant to fix the security problem + add extra features.

I know the paragraph above is hard to understand, but some might get it.

[carrlos]

I only had to revert FORUMHOME!

[Baldilocks]

It totally screwed with mine. Also, ibproarcade stopped working as well.

3.7.0 will have to do for now.

[pedroenf]

I agree with Jase2 too. I understand that updates are important, but update the whole files and templates by overwriting them is a real pain in the ***. A patch would be great and much less painful. Not disagreeing with the necessity of updating, but you would be very costumer-friendly if you could update by patch. Somehow! For now i'll stick with 3.7.0 too. Just had too much hard work from updating 3.6.8 to 3.7.0!

[donal]

I will upgrade when they release 3.7.5 next month.

[Ohiosweetheart]

The bi-monthly upgrade release schedule is in direct response to alot of people asking for a tentative schedule at vb.com, so they can plan accordingly. It was asked for. The people who don't need it or want it of course are going to gripe about it.

I'm betting that if the devs don't feel that an upgrade is warranted, there won't be one. It's just a guideline. If people plan for one, and it isn't needed, there's a pleasant surprise.

[Jase2]

Ohiosweetheart, it was asked by the 'regulars' on vbulletin.com. There are plenty of people and big companies who run a vBulletin forum and haven't participated on the vB forums -- so how is it asked for by the majority? Just the regulars on vB.com. I just think that it's the small minority who are very loud. The majority don't visit the vB forums, let alone vote for new features ect.

Baldilocks, I explained why it messed your style up in post #45. :)

[Paul M]

No one forces you to upgrade every time - its your choice - so whats the issue ?

[Jase2]

Like I say, it's an opinion LOL.

All I'm saying is if patches for the fixes were given too, that way, anyone running custom skins, which is a large majority, can upgrade with ease. I know there's no pleasing everyone, that's why you should see both sides of the story....

Lets just move on.......... huh?

[Marco van Herwaarden]

All I'm saying is if patches for the fixes were given too, that way, anyone running custom skins, which is a large majority, can upgrade with ease.What kind of "patches" are you talking about?

Bug fixes or security updates. Also this wouldn't make any difference regarding styles: Either an update does require (mandatory) template changes or not. How it is distributed (patch/2-monthly update/security release) does not change if a template must be updated or not.

[masterross]

Hi support team,

After last night upgrade I face some problems with some custom functions which work with 3.7.0 and dont with 3.7.1

See details

I have defined function -> xbt_postbit_attachment
in file xbt_functions.php

function xbt_postbit_attachment(&$attachment)
{
global $stylevar, $vbulletin, $xbt_config;
if (isset($attachment['bt_size']))
$attachment['bt_size'] = xbt_b2a($attachment['bt_size']);
$attachment['download_target'] = $xbt_config['attachment_download_banner'] ? 'target=_blank' : '';
$attachment['bt_sub_files_rows'] = '';
$sub_files = $vbulletin->db->query_read(sprintf("select hash, name, size from xbt_sub_files where info_hash = '%s' order by name", addslashes($attachment['bt_info_hash'])));
while ($sub_file = $vbulletin->db->fetch_array($sub_files))
{
$hash = bin2hex($sub_file['hash']);
$name = htmlspecialchars($sub_file['name']);
$size = xbt_b2a($sub_file['size']);
eval('$attachment[\'bt_sub_files_rows\'] .= "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_sub_files_row') . '";');
}
if ($attachment['bt_sub_files_rows'])
eval('$attachment[\'bt_sub_files\'] = "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_sub_files') . '";');
$attachment['bt_users_rows'] = '';
$users = $vbulletin->db->query_read(sprintf("select xfu.*, u.username name from xbt_files inner join xbt_files_users xfu using (fid) left join %suser u on uid = userid where info_hash = '%s' and (xfu.completed or xfu.downloaded or xfu.uploaded) order by name", TABLE_PREFIX, addslashes($attachment['bt_info_hash'])));
while ($user = $vbulletin->db->fetch_array($users))
{
$uid = $user['uid'];
$name = htmlspecialchars($user['name']);
$announced = $user['announced'];
$completed = $user['completed'];
$downloaded = xbt_b2a($user['downloaded']);
$left = xbt_b2a($user['left']);
$uploaded = xbt_b2a($user['uploaded']);
$last_announce = gmdate('Y-m-d H:s', $user['mtime']);
eval('$attachment[\'bt_users_rows\'] .= "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_users_row') . '";');
}
if ($attachment['bt_users_rows'])
eval('$attachment[\'bt_users\'] = "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_users') . '";');
}
I call this function via plugin and hook -> postbit_attachment

require_once(DIR . '/includes/xbt_functions.php');
xbt_postbit_attachment($attachment);But not works anymore (not shows result in postbit)

Maybe some hooks or classes are changed?

Advise please!

thx

[Jase2]

Please create your own thread in the relevant forum. This is for discussions only. Thanks!

[Jubei]

Argh, I've just got all my templates back to normal after upgrading to 3.7.0. Don't tell me I'll have to do all that shit again...

[Ohiosweetheart]

Ohiosweetheart, it was asked by the 'regulars' on vbulletin.com. There are plenty of people and big companies who run a vBulletin forum and haven't participated on the vB forums -- so how is it asked for by the majority? Just the regulars on vB.com. I just think that it's the small minority who are very loud. The majority don't visit the vB forums, let alone vote for new features ect.
Jase I just re-read my post, and invite you to do the same. Nowhere in my post did I say that the schedule was asked for my any majority. I said "alot of people". And if you read the posts over there, you'll find 'em. Many of them are business people who want, and appreciate, a schedule so that they can plan accordingly. :) Also you should be aware, if you aren't already, that the vB staff does get requests and suggestions at other than the vb.com forums.

[Jase2]

And how do you know that many are business people who are requesting this?

Also you should be aware, if you aren't already, that the vB staff does get requests and suggestions at other than the vb.com forums.

I know that, what do you think this is for: http://www.vbulletin.com/testimonial_form.php -- :), but you or me, or anyone else for that matter will not know how many people use it, exception being the vB staff.

At the end of the day, I've said my opinion, and after some thought, I'm split about the decision. Lets just leave it as it is, for now. :)

[Ohiosweetheart]

How do I know? I read the posts :)

As I said hun, if you read them, many of the requests are by business people, or "big board" admins who have requested an upgrade schedule, and are very glad that they can now plan for them.

[Smitty]

Many of them are business people who want, and appreciate, a schedule so that they can plan accordingly. <Giggle...> Asking for a schedule in software is silly.</Giggle...> How many years did Vista take? All that money and all that time and look what MS put out....

Goodness - I can hardly believe all the 'beefs' about a schedule and template mods in this thread.

My suggestion - Relax and plan as best you can, and always wait at least 2 weeks after the 'gold' release to upgrade (more for more major software releases, like 8 to 10 weeks). If you have a good, solid site/forum, your visitors won't notice a 2 to 4 week wait in regard to a vB software update (Realistically, how many of your forum visitors are bugging you about when you're going to install 'The Latest' vBulletin update {unless you've been promising things you don't KNOW you can produce}?). If one is so anxious to update, I suspect vanity or hyperactivity is involved (if not simply personal impatience). Heck, even this site - vBulletin.org - doesn't update their forum software the minute or day that vB releases an update.... from what I see, this site is still on Version 3.6.10. Now - What does THAT tell us???? Hmmmmm.....? Personally I don't CARE when this site upgrades. It works. It works well. I'm a happy camper just as it is.

I've read all the template complaints and such with respect to 'special styles' and what not. I have quite a few templates modded. I have a list in an excel file. It also has about 8 significant php and xml files which I have to change when the main files change. The vB people have gone out of their way to list templates which are changed (not to mention changed Phrases...), including the admin panel checks. I have my list and I'm ready for major changes. I'm a Mac person so I use BBEdit and 'Compare Files'. Quick and easy. I do have a couple of PCs here, but don't do much real work on them. I'm sure there's a PC text editor which does the same, but I'll leave PC recommendations to PC people.

I am a 'business person'. I'm a semi-retired consultant who keeps a forum online which is a quite profitable addition to my retirement. In fact, my whole forum depends upon 'business' people. I'm not a programmer, although I do count looking back to taking PL1, FORTRAN and Cobol back in 1974-6. Over 30 years ago I was taught 'patience'. And if your site/forum is really important to you, the 'work' involved shouldn't be a significant issue. An 'irritant' I'll grant you, but.... Not 'work'.

My Opinion: For anyone whose site is important to them:
Keep track of the changes you KNOW you'll need to make.
Keep track of the 'mods' (aka addons, etc.) you have installed and any related template or other changes. vB 3.7.1 broke several 'mods' and people got mad. If they had waited 48 hours to see the 'fallout', they would have known what to expect. I haven't upgraded because I saw immediate reactions (people complaining about installed 'mods' failing).
Plan as best you can. Have something written out.
Don't rush the programmers. You'll only induce mistakes and problems.
If waiting a few weeks (or even a couple of months) to upgrade is a problem, you're making things worse for yourself. vB 3.7.1 just came out. I've seen the crying from people who whose mods broke and such - It's obvious none of them tried everything out on a test platform board. I have no sympathy for them.

In part, I 'make a living' off of my major site. I'm definitely a 'business person'. In fact, I'm a 'business person' who is in a business totally unrelated to software. In fact, my 'business' is charging companies to tell them how to 'do' business.

I know that software upgrades require a plan on the part of the 'business person' (or whoever is 'minding the site') more than a plan is required from the software vendor. Believing what any software supplier says is suicide... As a business person my #1 thought is what is my plan if this company goes out of business (or an installed mod I 'need' is not updated, among many other things).

If you are a business person, you plan your 'user experience' with 'catastrophe' planned for (especially if you don't have a test platform to check everything out on).

I am a VERY happy vB user since August 2001 and I have absolutely NO complaints about the vB team and their many upgrades during the last 7 years.

I haven't upgraded to 3.7.1 and don't plan to for a while. It has nothing to do with security. I can wait a few weeks to see what shakes out of the 3.7.1 update.

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As I said hun, if you read them, many of the requests are by business people, or "big board" admins who have requested an upgrade schedule, and are very glad that they can now plan for them. No, they can't expect a firm, guaranteed 'update schedule' or plan. 'Things' happen..... If you believe that you're wishing upon a star.... If you're telling clients that, ummm.... Well.... I sure wouldn't.

[Jase2]

If waiting a few weeks (or even a couple of months) to upgrade is a problem, you're making things worse for yourself. vB 3.7.1 just came out. I've seen the crying from people who whose mods broke and such - It's obvious none of them tried everything out on a test platform board. I have no sympathy for them.


While I partially agree with waiting, how can you have no sympathy for them? If vBulletin release it, then they know many of their customers are going to upgrade their forums -- because it is released as stable. To me, this scheduled maintenance will just cause problems within vBulletin its self, like the two small hiccups after the 3.7.1 release.

[aeturner89]

Even with the hiccups we somehow manage to survive and the world didn't end.

[Ohiosweetheart]

No, they can't expect a firm, guaranteed 'update schedule' or plan. 'Things' happen..... If you believe that you're wishing upon a star.... If you're telling clients that, ummm.... Well.... I sure wouldn't.Oh goodness no, lol. Why would anyone tell a client that? Personally, I don't believe that a schedule is needed. I'm very happy to upgrade whenever one comes along. The devs do a great job of trying to keep our forums secure and up-to-date. I merely pointed out that a schedule now exists because it was requested. That's all.

[mannaraja]

Thanks for the new version

[cheat-master30]

Real great timing [/sarcasm] since I was on holiday when it was released, but I have now upgraded my site to vBulletin 3.7.1

[Phaedrus]

Hmmm... Why does it not work when people are logging in? People who use old cookies have no problem. But even when I try to log in to my admin cp I can't log in...

forget it, I uploaded the login.php and everything is fine. I also had to re-upload the memberlist.php for some reason...