SocialForums 1.4

[Phalynx]

You can disable the show of last posts by disabling the plugin "group_prepareinfo" of SocialForums. I will try to do a cached version of this using forumcache.

[Hilary]

Thank you for this! It really completes Vb's social features, and I think my users are going to love it.

Can you answer a dumb question for me, please? :o

What does restriction mode do? What exactly happens or is possible when it's enabled? What stops working if I turn it off?

Wait! Another dumb question. What does 'show activity in forum' mean, in the options? Where are those last posts displayed?

Thanks!

[RvG2]

You can disable the show of last posts by disabling the plugin "group_prepareinfo" of SocialForums. I will try to do a cached version of this using forumcache.

thank you sir :)

can't live without this mod... hehehe

[vbboarder]

Thanks for this great mod! I have a feature request that would help reduce server load for sites with lots of forums. As you mentioned, lots of social groups creating lots of forums can lead to high server load. To limit the # of forums created while enabling social groups to have threaded discussions, provide an option for social groups to create a thread in a pre-designated forum (ie: Social Groups Forum). Then provide permissions based on usergroups that would allow social groups to either create a forum or create a thread. Thus, regular groups can only create threads in the predefined forum but VIP groups can create their own forums. The threads for social groups should have the same features as forums for social groups (ie: option to be viewable by members only, option to moderate posts, link back to social group page, etc). Thanks for considering this feature request. ;)

[jilly]

right now, my group is showing the membernumber instead of the membername for the 'created by' area - can we change that so that it shows the username and not the member id number?

[RvG2]

You can disable the show of last posts by disabling the plugin "group_prepareinfo" of SocialForums. I will try to do a cached version of this using forumcache.

yes this solve the problem... for the meantime :)

[vwdforum]

I've installed this mod but the create forum option is not showing.

I've set the admin usergroup to see/view all and still nothing.

do you have any suggestions?

Thanks

Mally

[gettingbetter]

I'm driving myself nuts with this - what could be causing mysite.com/groups.php to rewrite to mysite.com/groups/ ??? The mysite.com/groups/ link simply links to my main forum page and not the groups page! :confused::confused:

Not sure what I did to make this happen.

[Drocr]

Is there a way to set it so that the Social Group's moderator won't appear as a forum leader?

[IvyKeepMommy]

Is it possible, and if it is, how do I want my settings to be set, for ALL the social forums to be displayed by name on the main forum page, but you can only read the content of the forum if you are a member?

[Artes_Marciales]

Can we have the following feature please?
+ Administrators may edit/substitute/reassign a social group leader after it has been set up. Hope you get the idea :P

Thanks!

[Fraik]

Could someone help me to find the permissionsfor this mod? Its only showing the normal vBulletin permissions in the usergroup manager and the forum permissions page?

Edit: Geez, I'm so stupid - forgot to upload the bitfield XML file. Need to start reading readme files... sorry!

[karlm]

Interesting concept.. will keep my eye on it. Not sure if it would go well on my forum though, sadly, as the members aren't really into toys (as I've discovered throughing seemingly wasted efforts).

[Phalynx]

What does restriction mode do? What exactly happens or is possible when it's enabled? What stops working if I turn it off?
It just checks for permissions (defined per usergroup)

What does 'show activity in forum' mean, in the options? Where are those last posts displayed?
It shows the last threads from forum on group home.

I've installed this mod but the create forum option is not showing.

I've set the admin usergroup to see/view all and still nothing.
Admins must be able to create forum, check permissions. Also, check parent forum. Last but not least check count of members required.

Is there a way to set it so that the Social Group's moderator won't appear as a forum leader?
Disable forum leaders listing in vBulletin's settings.

Is it possible, and if it is, how do I want my settings to be set, for ALL the social forums to be displayed by name on the main forum page, but you can only read the content of the forum if you are a member?
It would require recoding the restrictions.

Can we have the following feature please?
+ Administrators may edit/substitute/reassign a social group leader after it has been set up. Hope you get the idea :P
Great Idea. I hope Jelsoft will implement such a thing :)

[ultimatearco]

Great work!

Nominated installed and downloaded

[Fraik]

Thanks so much for this mod! It allowed me to set up a clan hosting system on my board :up:

[The_Dan]

Is it possible to turn of the post incrementation ? Its a great mod, but i dont really want my forum members spamming their way to however many posts.

[Fraik]

Is it possible to not replace the messaging/guestbook feature for Social Groups with the forum, but instead add the forum as an additional feature and keep the messaging feature as well?

[Phalynx]

Is it possible to turn of the post incrementation ? Its a great mod, but i dont really want my forum members spamming their way to however many posts.
Check settings of Forums

Is it possible to not replace the messaging/guestbook feature for Social Groups with the forum, but instead add the forum as an additional feature and keep the messaging feature as well?
Check settings of SF

[BucWiLd]

very nice feature, thank you

[triff]

Great mod! Installed and nominated! :)

Is it possible to tweak the public socialforums so that they stay visible to all, but that only members of the individual socialgroups see the "unread posts" sign when there's any new posts there? (that is, that the socialforums you are not a member of stay marked "read"?)

That way non-members don't have to press the "mark read" button for all the forums they are not a member of, or actually read all the posts, like those of us with a touch of OCD might feel compelled to! (yes, ignoring forums marked "unread" is actually quite hard!) :rolleyes:

Cheers,
Sverre.

[subnet_rx]

So, if a group has permission to create a forum, and has the required number of members, what else could stop them from creating? I don't see a link as an admin, and my group creators don't either that have 75 members. When you say check parent forum, how would that stop the forum from being created (assuming it exists)?

Edit: Somehow, this solved itself.

[VinnyS]

Ok I installed the mod works great!! My question is when the forum is made it seem to place it at the top in my announcement forum. Let say I create a main forum called Social Forums is it possible when someone makes a social forum it would always be placed under the heading I want it to be placed? Is it possible to write this in the next update? The other thing if you delete the group the admin need to manualy remove the forum..

[The_Dan]

How do i uninstall this mod ?

[fly]

How do i uninstall this mod ?

Same way as other products, except you also have to delete the forums...

[Fraik]

I just found a SERIOUS bug in the mod.

Private forums are viewable trough the archives, along with all the topics and posts in that forum. I double-checked my permissions just to be sure, and they were all good. Forum isn't visible in the normal listing, but it is in the archives.

[fly]

Whoops! You're right.

[Mark.B]

I just found a SERIOUS bug in the mod.

Private forums are viewable trough the archives, along with all the topics and posts in that forum. I double-checked my permissions just to be sure, and they were all good. Forum isn't visible in the normal listing, but it is in the archives.
I can confirm this bug.

However, just so as not to alarm anyone, it is only private forums that relate to Social groups that are affected.

If you have something like a private moderators forum, as long as it isn't related to Social Groups then that is NOT affected by this.

[Fraik]

Yes, should have made that more clear. Actually noticed it while I was browsing my forums with my PDA, and I could see the private forums even without logging in.

[subnet_rx]

I'm having a problem with this locking out admins and global mods from the forums if they are not part of the group. I went in and set up the forum permissions so that we could see it, and I still can't get in.

[Phalynx]

Is it possible to tweak the public socialforums so that they stay visible to all, but that only members of the individual socialgroups see the "unread posts" sign when there's any new posts there? (that is, that the socialforums you are not a member of stay marked "read"?)

Ok I installed the mod works great!! My question is when the forum is made it seem to place it at the top in my announcement forum. Let say I create a main forum called Social Forums is it possible when someone makes a social forum it would always be placed under the heading I want it to be placed? Is it possible to write this in the next update? The other thing if you delete the group the admin need to manualy remove the forum..
To get support, you will need to click "Mark as Installed".

Private forums are viewable trough the archives, along with all the topics and posts in that forum. I double-checked my permissions just to be sure, and they were all good. Forum isn't visible in the normal listing, but it is in the archives.
Yes, that is because the SocialForums permissions are hooked as an overlay to the existing permissions. This is due to missing hooks in the vBulletin permission system. Addressed in next version.

I'm having a problem with this locking out admins and global mods from the forums if they are not part of the group. I went in and set up the forum permissions so that we could see it, and I still can't get in.
Check usergroup permissions (how many times did I say this already?!?)

[triff]

Is it possible to tweak the public socialforums so that they stay visible to all, but that only members of the individual socialgroups see the "unread posts" sign when there's any new posts there? (that is, that the socialforums you are not a member of stay marked "read"?)

To get support, you will need to click "Mark as Installed".

I have!!! :confused:

SGL.

[Phalynx]

That was an answer to VinnyS, sorry for not answering your question.

As for your question: No, not possible. If a users see a forum, he should see also threads. But if the users can see a thread, he has this also in new posts. That's a limitation in vBulletin.

[triff]

Okay, thanks for the reply!

SGL.

[subnet_rx]

Check usergroup permissions (how many times did I say this already?!?)

That must be in an addon, I don't have usergroup permissions. I only have forum permissions. Could someone link the url for usergroup permissions at their forum so I could see where it might be on mine?

[Fraik]

Usergroups -> Manage Usergroups

Make sure that you have installed all the files (not just the product file). One of them adds additional fields to the usergroups permissions.

[MrEyes]

I'll bet this question gets asked alot over the next few hours/days :)

It seems that a new announcement from the VB dev team regarding VB 3.8 has come out:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1604038

Part of the announcement states that they are going to add social forums, as usual details are fairly sketchy.

Anyway the question is, when further details are announced would this mod be "decomissioned"?

[Phalynx]

It's just adding threads, not forums. So I think I will maintain this also with vB 3.8

[akonze]

Problem: I can't see the "create forum" link in the group.

I installed it like the readme file says. The group has 8 members, 5 are needed to create forums. The usergroup "registered users" has permission to create forums. Did I forget something???

[maidos]

can the group the member who joined, displayed on postbit?

[Phalynx]

Problem: I can't see the "create forum" link in the group.

I installed it like the readme file says. The group has 8 members, 5 are needed to create forums. The usergroup "registered users" has permission to create forums. Did I forget something???
And YOUR group is registered users?

can the group the member who joined, displayed on postbit?
Don't understand this.

[punchbowl]

This is going to be standard in 3.8/4?! Hopefully vb don't ruin the great work done here by Phalynx and the upgrading works.

[Phalynx]

Read here:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1591372&postcount=538

[Fraik]

This is going to be standard in 3.8/4?! Hopefully vb don't ruin the great work done here by Phalynx and the upgrading works.

Not really, the feature in vB 3.8 is the ability to create topics within the groups messaging system, as opposed to a groups forums with all the features it comes with (moderation options, tagging, stickies etc.)

[Kaelon]

Not really, the feature in vB 3.8 is the ability to create topics within the groups messaging system, as opposed to a groups forums with all the features it comes with (moderation options, tagging, stickies etc.)
Not according to Jelsoft:

This is probably the most-requested feature since the introduction of social groups in vBulletin 3.7. While the current 'social group messages' system allows messages to be posted to a social group, unlike forums it does not allow messages to be divided up into discussions. vBulletin 3.8 rectifies this, and social groups in 3.8 now have the ability to contain individual topics, each with reporting, inline moderation and many of the other tools one would expect from vBulletin.

Note my emphasis in bold. It sounds like they are going to essentially port the entire forum functionality right into the Social Groups functionality, making this addon moot.

[fly]

I just found a SERIOUS bug in the mod.

Private forums are viewable trough the archives, along with all the topics and posts in that forum. I double-checked my permissions just to be sure, and they were all good. Forum isn't visible in the normal listing, but it is in the archives.

Has this been addressed?

[akonze]

And YOUR group is registered users?

Yes, sure. I think I found the problem. Today the 10th group member joined the group and now I can create the forum, althought I entered '4' as minimum in the settings.

Could you please check the code if the setting is properly integrated? Thanks.

[Mark.B]

Not according to Jelsoft:



Note my emphasis in bold. It sounds like they are going to essentially port the entire forum functionality right into the Social Groups functionality, making this addon moot.
NO, I disagree.

Unless there is going to be some sort of integration with "Today's Posts" and "New Posts" then the new Social Group Threads is going to be useless, at least on my site, as almost everyone navigates with getdaily and getnew.

Thus this mod will still be needed.

[RvG2]

better see and check it out which one is more usable. :)

[JKatz]

Has this been addressed?

Same question here.:)

[Phalynx]

Not yet.

[Mazoo]

Hello ,

i try to visit "group.php"in my forum but it seems that i don't have permission to visit the page ?!

where can i find that permission to change it .

Thank you

[sross]

I searched this thread but didnt see an answer. My issue is that i have some social forums that people post a lot of new threads in. My community in general does not want to see this in new posts. I have turned off to index posts for this forum but they are still showing up in the new posts list. I have a mod to ignore certains forums but since the forum is private it doesn't list in the ignore forums list. stuck between a rock and a hard place ugh

*i've even tried this on my search query do=getnew&exclude=293,294,305 and still they show up!

[realmr]

Do posts made on the social forums also count up for the total post count and member post count ?

[Ray2khax]

Dude this is amazing very nice job!

[Fraik]

Any word on when the archive security issue might be addressed? Its not a major concern, but those pages are being indexed by search engines.

[Ricsca]

Demo?

[Defkalion]

I have an error trying to create a forum for a group:

A required field called subforumcolumns is missing or has an invalid value.

What is that? Is it something to do with the hack that arranges sub-forums in columns?

[jluerken]

I have an error trying to create a forum for a group:



What is that? Is it something to do with the hack that arranges sub-forums in columns?

Check for the Addon "Arrange Forums in Columns" and disable it.

[Defkalion]

Thanks, that solved it. :)

[Zeb Zoober]

I'm getting this error when trying to create a social forum -

A required field called groupid is missing or has an invalid value

I have the parent ID set to 1 in the SocialForum settings. Any ideas?



******Nevermind. Found my database error.

[Fastbird]

Major error. I installed the template hack for the group display, which isn't written for this hack. I found this out after installing this hack.

I tried to uninstall and it did not uninstall the usergroup options. I am left with 3 blank selections at the bottom of my usergroups and I get a DB error everytime I try to change anything in the usergroup options.

I tried to reinstall and it did nothing. I would really like to just remove it since I can't use it with that template mod. Can anyone help me stop the DB error?

[Fastbird]

Anyone have any ideas?

MySQL Error : Unknown column 'uscpermissions' in 'field list'
Error Number : 1054
Request Date : Friday, September 12th 2008 @ 09:18:08 AM
Error Date : Friday, September 12th 2008 @ 09:18:08 AM
Script : http://ltxtech.com/forums/admincp/usergroup.php?do=update
Referrer : http://ltxtech.com/forums/admincp/usergroup.php?do=edit&usergroupid=2
IP Address :
Username : phantomzer0
Classname : vb_database
MySQL Version : 5.0.67-log

[Fastbird]

I'd really like to be able to edit my usergroups again.... :/

[Fastbird]

Comon' anybody?!?!?!?

[Fastbird]

Omg, I'm sorry. This product is fine. I uninstalled something right before this which was causing the problems. I'm so sorry!

[shri]

I like forums for social groups, but if you do it with regular forums you will totally blow up forums cache (datastore).

On (semi-)large forums this will be disastrous (even with the limitations) on performance.

In the past there was already a hack that created blogs by creating a forum for members as a blog, with the same results (ok, the blog thing will be worse than this, but still)

Could someone elaborate on the caching issues? We've noticed that with multiple front ends, there is a problem that sometimes the forums seem to disappear for some users.

[Defkalion]

NO, I disagree.

Unless there is going to be some sort of integration with "Today's Posts" and "New Posts" then the new Social Group Threads is going to be useless, at least on my site, as almost everyone navigates with getdaily and getnew.

Thus this mod will still be needed.

You're correct. Also, it's not only when members navigate with getnew searches. If you have the groups for ontopic discussions (and not for general community use with offtopic groups), then you need to keep all the content (discussions) in one place. With this mod, we have the groups' forums inside our forums list. With 3.8, discussions are only found inside each group. :)

[punchbowl]

You're correct. Also, it's not only when members navigate with getnew searches. If you have the groups for ontopic discussions (and not for general community use with offtopic groups), then you need to keep all the content (discussions) in one place. With this mod, we have the groups' forums inside our forums list. With 3.8, discussions are only found inside each group. :)

Yep this mod is much better than what's built into 3.8. Hopefully we'll be able to turn off social group thread completely and use this mod instead.

[Alfa1]

With vb 3.8 coming up with similar functionality, do you have any idea's about importing Social group threads from this mod into vb 3.8's 'social group discussion' threads?

[jilly]

If this hasn't been suggested already, I'd like a field in admincp to set on the back end that shows you how many posts a group needs, as one of the prerequisistes to make a social forum. Then, something that shows up on the groups home page, that says

Social Groups may create a Social Forum to add functionality to their Group. You must have at least (x) members, and at least (X) posts in your Social Group in order to create a Social Forum for your Group.

[Phalynx]

Could someone elaborate on the caching issues? We've noticed that with multiple front ends, there is a problem that sometimes the forums seem to disappear for some users.

You're correct. Also, it's not only when members navigate with getnew searches. If you have the groups for ontopic discussions (and not for general community use with offtopic groups), then you need to keep all the content (discussions) in one place. With this mod, we have the groups' forums inside our forums list. With 3.8, discussions are only found inside each group. :)
Yep this mod is much better than what's built into 3.8. Hopefully we'll be able to turn off social group thread completely and use this mod instead.
With vb 3.8 coming up with similar functionality, do you have any idea's about importing Social group threads from this mod into vb 3.8's 'social group discussion' threads?
As I currently don't know how they will exactly handle the threads, I cannot promise anything. But I think they will do it like with the blog.


If this hasn't been suggested already, I'd like a field in admincp to set on the back end that shows you how many posts a group needs, as one of the prerequisistes to make a social forum. Then, something that shows up on the groups home page, that says

Social Groups may create a Social Forum to add functionality to their Group. You must have at least (x) members, and at least (X) posts in your Social Group in order to create a Social Forum for your Group.
Nice idea, but let's see how 3.8 will interfere with this mod. If there are after 3.8 enough users that want to see this continued, I will probably do a v2.0

[Hamednet]

thanks dear

very nice !

[Phalynx]

Update to 1.4.5 has been released. Permissions are now also active in Archive.

How to update?
1. Upload functions_socialforums.php to existing folder /includes/
2. Import the product, allow overwrite. No forums get lost!
3. Check settings, especially for parent forum. Don't forget to set permissions via usergroups!

[fly]

My hats off to Phalynx. Making some of the best hacks available for vB.

[djilou]

Permission Can read messages in public socialforum didn't work for me.

[flOid]

Permission Can read messages in public socialforum didn't work for me.

same here

[OveB]

Permission Can read messages in public socialforum didn't work for me.Same here, actually "Can read messages in private socialforums" don't work either. Therefore, mods and admins no longer have access.

[punchbowl]

Group starters can't be ignored

vBulletin Message
Sorry xxxxxxxx is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

Any possibility of changing that?

[Phalynx]

Permission Can read messages in public socialforum didn't work for me.
Will take a look.

Group starters can't be ignored
Any possibility of changing that?
Remove them as moderator and disable setting which makes group leaders moderators of their forum.

[punchbowl]

Will take a look.


Remove them as moderator and disable setting which makes group leaders moderators of their forum.

but then i'd have group forums without mods? I want them mods of their groups but able to be ignored outside their groups.

not possible?

[Phalynx]

No. You must enable the setting that moderators can be set to be ignored.

[fly]

but then i'd have group forums without mods? I want them mods of their groups but able to be ignored outside their groups.

not possible?

Change the vb option to allow users to ignore moderators...

[punchbowl]

No. You must enable the setting that moderators can be set to be ignored.

Change the vb option to allow users to ignore moderators...


Cheers appreciate it - will do.

[FreewayOrange]

A moderator won't be able to give warnings to a user which is a owner of a socialforum. Is there a way to fix that ? Since they abuse it right now on my board.

Thanks.

[fly]

A moderator won't be able to give warnings to a user which is a owner of a socialforum. Is there a way to fix that ? Since they abuse it right now on my board.

Thanks.

Create another usergroup that isnt your main moderator group, put them in it, and assign that group permissions to open/close/delete threads. You'd have to create a group for each forum, but...

[Legal Chaos]

I installed this mod, however, when I tried to get it to work on my vBulletin, the create forum link will no appear. I have the forum ID set correctly and I also have reached the minimum members on my test group, yet it still won't pop up. I've read through 12 pages of this thread to try to find answers, however, everything I found hasn't helped. If you guys have any ideas, they would be greatly appreciated.

[Phalynx]

Please click Mark as Installed to get further support.

Check your usergroup's permissions.

[Legal Chaos]

Okay, I just did.

Nevermind. I got it working. Thanks!

[GoTTi]

admins cant view the forums users create? testing this with a user account and i can not view the forum created

[GoTTi]

also. if we have it enabled that users be moderators of their own forum, i would prefer that they do not get shown in the forum leaders under moderators. is there a way to fix that?

[flOid]

It's been almost a week now since buggy release of SF 1.4.5. I'm desperately waiting for a fix. Please fix this, or at least provide a link to the last release!

It's just very annoying that parts of the group permission settings are now being completely ignored.

[Phalynx]

I understand you, but I didn't find the time for the update. Now I fixed it.

Please upload functions_socialforums.php and reimport the XML.

[OveB]

Looks like it works like it should now. TY! :)

[GoTTi]

anyone else having a problem as an admin viewing a users forum?

[GoTTi]

can you guys see the forums created by members as admin if the permissions are set to yes for restriction mode?

[GoTTi]

just updated to 1.4.6 and it appears this problem is fixed. thanks.

[flOid]

I understand you, but I didn't find the time for the update. Now I fixed it.

Please upload functions_socialforums.php and reimport the XML.

Thank you very much! :)

Sorry about my impatience, but your mod has become an essential feature of my forums, and it was just not very nice to not have it functioning properly...

[mescalin]

fantastic job and a great mod thank yu for sharing.

It would be nice to see delete groups forum for admins just from admincp since some groups are inactive so it would be easier to manage groups forums..

[Chris11987]

Is this the same thing that they're adding into 3.8?

[punchbowl]

This should be made like MySpace where it doesn't create a forum on the actual board but creates a posting area in the group section.

Or just at least make it so people including admins and mods on the board can ONLY see forums THEY are apart of.

I mean otherwise it's going to look over flooded and stupid I think it would be best if there was a discussions area on the group page itself that's just my idea and suggestion would be nice to see.

Rick

Group threads are in 3.8. imo social forums are far, far better. Great mod.

[Phalynx]

It would be nice to see delete groups forum for admins just from admincp since some groups are inactive so it would be easier to manage groups forums..
There is no possibility for the user to delete a forum.

Is this the same thing that they're adding into 3.8?
Almost. Here the group discussions are directly integrated into the forum, with 3.8 you will have discussions like the Blog.

[flOid]

I know from Phalynx that the mod will possibly not being ported into 3.8. The current version of the mod can't be installed on a 3.8 forum anyway.

I'm aware that this mod is better in some ways than the new group discussion feature in 3.8, but nevertheless vB 3.8 does include some social group features which are bloody needed like the ability to transfer groups from one member to another.

So for those who decide to switch, there is something like a converter needed, and I actually hired a freelancer to get it coded. I'll keep you updated about it, and will probably post it here at vB.org as a mod when it's finished.

[fly]

I hope you have his permission...

[punchbowl]

I know from Phalynx that the mod will possibly not being ported into 3.8. The current version of the mod can't be installed on a 3.8 forum anyway.


Say it ain't so! It'll take until vb4.0 for them to copy the idea properly.

[Phalynx]

He does not need my permission for this as there are now changes in my code. Also, I would support such a tool. Based on this I would love to see a converter vB3.8 -> SocialForums.

[Morrus]

Eeek. I can't be sure, but I upgraded to 3.8.0 and social groups are now completely broken - no discussion capability at all.

[ReCom]

Installed! Looking good so far but ...


The display options (Sorted by, Sort order, From the, Show Threads) at the top of the thread listings doesn't work. Clicking the "Show Threads" button will return error page "Invalid Action Specified" in IE6 and "You did not select any valid threads" in Firefox 3
It would be nice if the thread list appear in the social group page as well ...


vB 3.7.3 PL1 btw ..

[Mark.B]

I have to say I shan't be upgrading to 3.8 because of Social Forums not working. vB's new system, whilst an improvement on what went before, still leaves Social Group discussions isolated just like the blogs...if like me you have a site where everyone uses Today's Posts/New Posts, then nobody EVER sees these things. My site's last blog post was in August, for example.

To be honest I'm starting to regret using all the blogs and social networking stuff, it's ill thought out and cobbled together very badly, and now they are having to change it all round again which breaks all the custom fixes people put in to make it work properly - such as this excellent mod!

The *only* way forward for Jelsoft is to have social group discussion posts and blog entries/comments mixed into getdaily and getnew searches, with an additional column to show what each result is..."Forum Post", "Blog Post", "Social Group Post" etc. That's the ONLY way it will ever work properly. But that's not really for this thread.

[Mark.B]

And with that, I successfully killed yet another thread.

It's a new service I offer.

Have YOU got a thread that's bubbling along nicely that you would like stopped in its tracks? Then drop me a line....I'll post to it, and I guarantee it won't get any more replies, ever!

[Reeve of shinra]

Does this service work on nagging ex girlfriends? lol

[Phalynx]

Eeek. I can't be sure, but I upgraded to 3.8.0 and social groups are now completely broken - no discussion capability at all.
There is no 3.8-ready version of SocialForums yet. I'm waiting for a more stable version.

The display options (Sorted by, Sort order, From the, Show Threads) at the top of the thread listings doesn't work. Clicking the "Show Threads" button will return error page "Invalid Action Specified" in IE6 and "You did not select any valid threads" in Firefox 3
Uhm, cannot confirm that. Are you using vB3.8?

It would be nice if the thread list appear in the social group page as well ...
That has already been requested, but it needs much work. I'm not sure if it worth it.

I have to say I shan't be upgrading to 3.8 because of Social Forums not working. vB's new system, whilst an improvement on what went before, still leaves Social Group discussions isolated just like the blogs...if like me you have a site where everyone uses Today's Posts/New Posts, then nobody EVER sees these things. My site's last blog post was in August, for example.

To be honest I'm starting to regret using all the blogs and social networking stuff, it's ill thought out and cobbled together very badly, and now they are having to change it all round again which breaks all the custom fixes people put in to make it work properly - such as this excellent mod!

The *only* way forward for Jelsoft is to have social group discussion posts and blog entries/comments mixed into getdaily and getnew searches, with an additional column to show what each result is..."Forum Post", "Blog Post", "Social Group Post" etc. That's the ONLY way it will ever work properly. But that's not really for this thread.
That's true, but with 3.8 they are already trying to bundle it alltogether.


And with that, I successfully killed yet another thread.

It's a new service I offer.

Have YOU got a thread that's bubbling along nicely that you would like stopped in its tracks? Then drop me a line....I'll post to it, and I guarantee it won't get any more replies, ever!
Haha :) I'll be breaking your service ;)

[YabbaDabba]

Thank you for a truly great mod!!

There is no 3.8-ready version of SocialForums yet. I'm waiting for a more stable version.So you will be porting this to 3.8???
(There was an earlier post that implied (to me at least :D ) you would not.)


That has already been requested, but it needs much work. I'm not sure if it worth it.Couldn't this be done trivially with an rss feed?


That's true, but with 3.8 they are already trying to bundle it altogether.:confused: Haven't seen anything from Jelsoft regarding bundled post/blog search results. Have you seen something official from them? Maybe their search engine rewrite will address this.

Again, thanks for your great effort.

[Mum]

Does this service work on nagging ex girlfriends? lolROFL Well you made me smile today :)

[thenewuser]

Amazing, thank you.

[wmlvb]

Newbie here! I was planning on upgrading to 3.8 when past beta mainly because of new blogging a social group features. I really want features like this on 3.8 for social groups! Should I just stick with 3.7 and use upload this social groups or wait until 3.8 comes out and it will be close to what this has to offer? I like the idea of groups having their own forums!!

[caldangel]

I installed it, and got most everything working — except: users who want to create the forum can't see the option. I made it so all usergroups could do that in any social group they are in, and the option still isn't showing up on the bottom bar like it does for me, the admin. Help please!

[caldangel]

Never mind about the previous post. I figured it out. The only person who can create the forum is the person who created the user group. And a user group needs to be created before a forum can be created.

Its all good and we're loving the mod!!!

[wmlvb]

Newbie here! I was planning on upgrading to 3.8 when past beta mainly because of new blogging a social group features. I really want features like this on 3.8 for social groups! Should I just stick with 3.7 and use upload this social groups or wait until 3.8 comes out and it will be close to what his has to offer? I like the idea of groups having their own forums!!

I still would like to know if this mod is necessary if updating to 3.8?

Is there a lot of difference between the update Groups on 3.8 and this mod?
if so please list! Thanks for the help

[Bilderback]

I finally have this working with vb3.8
Everything worked fine except the links in group footer.
I've found that the Hook Location (group_view_message_start) no longer exists in vb3.8
When I changed the plugin hook location to (group_view_discussion_start), everything is fine.
I am assuming that the group_view_discussion_start Hook Location has replaced the group_view_message_start maybe?

[rightsideforum]

Hey I have set this up and it creates the forum but when I try and visit them it gives me an error:

Database error in vBulletin 3.7.4:

Invalid SQL:

SELECT thread.threadid, lastpost, open
FROM thread AS thread
WHERE forumid = 14
AND (sticky = 1
OR threadid IN ())

AND visible IN (0,1,2);

MySQL Error : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '))

AND visible IN (0,1,2)' at line 5
Error Number : 1064
Request Date : Thursday, November 13th 2008 @ 01:53:36 PM
Error Date : Thursday, November 13th 2008 @ 01:53:36 PM
Script : http://my site
Referrer : http://my site
IP Address : ip address
Username : admin
Classname : vB_Database
MySQL Version : 5.0.45-community

[rightsideforum]

This now seems to be cocking up my whole forum making others unavailable even after I have uninstalled this product...some assistance would be much appreciated.

[ReCom]

First, thanks and good job for creating this mod. Just upgraded my forum to vb 3.7.x and introduced a bunch of new features to the members which include the socialforum. They love it.

Next is a suggestion: can you please change the error message that pops up when non-group members trying to reply to a thread in socialforum to a more friendly message like "please join this social group [link] before you can create a new post". Thanks in advance.

[itsbobtista]

Question: What settings do I change to make it so that only people in the social group can see the new social group forum on the front page?

Say I have a social group named COCA-COLA under parent category SODAS. I also have a social group named PEPSI. How do I make it so unregistered users do not see any of the social groups on the main forum page, members of COCA-COLA only see COCA-COLA, and PEPSI only sees PEPSI?

[itsbobtista]

Ah, I figured it out. Now.. is there a way to have a forum deleted when the social group is deleted?

[wmlvb]

I finally have this working with vb3.8
Everything worked fine except the links in group footer.
I've found that the Hook Location (group_view_message_start) no longer exists in vb3.8
When I changed the plugin hook location to (group_view_discussion_start), everything is fine.
I am assuming that the group_view_discussion_start Hook Location has replaced the group_view_message_start maybe?
Billderback,

So it wi worth while to have this mod if you are using 3.8? Are you using the default Vbulletin social group and does it compliment it? Or are you just using the this mod alone?? Thanks so much for the help!

[Bilderback]

I havent tested it completely - only noticed an outdated hook.
From what I can see, the vB Social Group message board is below each group
and the Social Forum adds a seperate forum to a specified forum id of choice.

The way I have it currently is using the group discussion area for only group members
and the created Social Forum as Public discussion as a Gaming Clan type setup.

[Phalynx]

This mod needs to be changed to run with vB 3.8

Will do this next week if I find some spare time.

[punchbowl]

Can I ask a quick slightly ot question Phalynx - is there no built in version of the conditional is_member_of for social groups?

[ReCom]

First, thanks for this great mod. It added much more value to the social groups feature.
(Well, it's a good gesture to thank/praise first before making bug report)

Next is a bug report: The "last post by" info in social groups listing are not displayed when the last activity in a social group was a post in the socialforum.

Please refer attached screenshot. Those with Last Post = "X days ago" with no "By userX" are social groups for which the last post was a post in the socialforum. Those with "By userX" are groups for which the last post was a social group message. Shouldn't the behavior for both situations be the same?

Thanks.

[ripperr]

Thank ya for this addon all worked fine.
edit: ive solved my problem, so just thank you, its a great addon :)

[ReCom]

Also, the mod seems to mess with the message count and last activity timestamp on social groups listing when both social group messages and social forum are available. Since you give an option to either turn off the group messages or leave them on, you should at least take in consideration cases when a social group has both group messages and forum posts. Message count should be sum of messages and posts and last activity timestamp should take the last message or the last post.

SocialForum 1.4.6
vBulletin 3.7.4 PL1
PHP 5.2.6
MySQL 5.0.51a-community

[flOid]

As promised, I'm now publishing a tool to convert the social forums of this mod to the new social group discussions feature in vB 3.8.

See https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=197898

[ReCom]

As promised, I'm now publishing a tool to convert the social forums of this mod to the new social group discussions feature in vB 3.8.
Hey thanks! I was worrying about upgrading to 3.8.x because of SocialForum. Now I can be relieved to plan the upgrade when 3.8 gold is out.

p/s: maybe you could put the tool up as a mod on its own? there's a setting in vb.org mod thread where you can relate your tool back with SocialForum.

[flOid]

Hey thanks! I was worrying about upgrading to 3.8.x because of SocialForum. Now I can be relieved to plan the upgrade when 3.8 gold is out.

p/s: maybe you could put the tool up as a mod on its own? there's a setting in vb.org mod thread where you can relate your tool back with SocialForum.

I was considering this, but since this is not really a vB mod, but just a converter script working completely independently from vB, I wasn't sure if it would be appropriate to publish it as a mod of it's own...

I guess i should contact a moderator to clarify this.

[ReCom]

Also, the mod seems to mess with the message count and last activity timestamp on social groups listing when both social group messages and social forum are available. Since you give an option to either turn off the group messages or leave them on, you should at least take in consideration cases when a social group has both group messages and forum posts. Message count should be sum of messages and posts and last activity timestamp should take the last message or the last post.

SocialForum 1.4.6
vBulletin 3.7.4 PL1
PHP 5.2.6
MySQL 5.0.51a-community
In reference of my bug report above, I'm tired of waiting so I've fixed it myself. For those forum admins who have both social group messages and social forums (i.e those who didn't disable group messages when installing socialforums), and are bothered with this mod messing the post counts and last post timestamps, here is how to fix it:

Open plugin SocialForums (group_prepareinfo).

Find the following codes: $group['lastpostdate'] = vbdate($vbulletin->options['dateformat'], $getlastpostinfo['lastpost'], true);
$group['lastposttime'] = vbdate($vbulletin->options['timeformat'], $getlastpostinfo['lastpost']);

$group['lastposterid'] = "";
$group['lastposter'] = "";

Wrap it in an IF block, resulting in: if ($getlastpostinfo['lastpost'] > $group['lastpost'])
{
$group['lastpostdate'] = vbdate($vbulletin->options['dateformat'], $getlastpostinfo['lastpost'], true);
$group['lastposttime'] = vbdate($vbulletin->options['timeformat'], $getlastpostinfo['lastpost']);

$group['lastposterid'] = "";
$group['lastposter'] = "";
}

Next find $group['visible'] = $getlastpostinfo['threads'] + $getlastpostinfo['replies'];

Change it to $group['visible'] += $getlastpostinfo['threads'] + $getlastpostinfo['replies'];


I sincerely hope for this mod creator to include this fix in the next version.

btw, these two lines in the plugin irritate me: $group['lastposterid'] = "";
$group['lastposter'] = "";

Is it too hard to find out the username of the last poster? My next post in this thread will be a fix for the two lines, if the next version doesn't fix it or it's taking too much time.

[powerful_rogue]

Hi,

Before I look at upgrading to 3.8, does 3.8 have the feature of allowing members to create a forum for their group like this mod allows?

[killa seven]

I've uploaded all of the files to there right spot, but when i go to upload the product...it says intall includes/socialforumfunctions.php first, can someone help me?

[flOid]

p/s: maybe you could put the tool up as a mod on its own? there's a setting in vb.org mod thread where you can relate your tool back with SocialForum.

Done now. See https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=197898

Would be nice if thise who already used this script would mark this mod as installed now.

[powerful_rogue]

Hi,

Before I look at upgrading to 3.8, does 3.8 have the feature of allowing members to create a forum for their group like this mod allows?

bump

[punchbowl]

powerful_rogue:

It's just adding threads, not forums. So I think I will maintain this also with vB 3.8

vb3.8 has social groups with threads but not really forums like this mod. I'm not upgrading my main forum because of this.

[powerful_rogue]

Thanks punchbowl. I think i'll hang fire for the time being.
Hopefully someone might create it as a mod for 3.8

[abdobasha2004]

gr8 work
thanx

[rob01]

this cant work for 3.8? :S

[Varsh]

vb3.8 has social groups with threads but not really forums like this mod. I'm not upgrading my main forum because of this.
Indeed. Phalanx made this mod a couple of weeks as I was thinking of a way myself of implementing it, then this came out of the blue and I was stoked to see it. As 3.8 still does not support attachments, then this is my only option until Jelsoft implement it itself.

Please update this soon Phalanx, we all love the mod. :D

[Phalynx]

Done now. See https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=197898

Would be nice if thise who already used this script would mark this mod as installed now.

Thanks for sharing.

[wmlvb]

HI,

I was waiting for 3.8 to come out as I really need a good social group feature. I am extremely disappointed because they have no notification when you subscribe the the group under group tools. Instead to be notified of new message you have to go check for new discussion and subscribe to each new discussion.

I really need it to be on one time thing where you are subscribe to the entire group discussion if you choose that option. I am not sure why vb has group subscription if there in no notification. Seems like a huge mistake or bug.

Any way, Does socialforums have this feature where you are already subscribed to every new discussion topic that comes up new or do you have to come back online to check for new discussion and then subscribe?

If so I need to get this as a compliment or instead of VB social groups.

Can I use it as a compliment to VB 3.8 social group or will I have to disable it to use social groups? Will I be able to easily transfer all the social groups already created over to socialforums if I have to disable vb social groups?

[Phalynx]

SocialForums have ALL features that a forum can have, incl. subscriptions.

You can have both enabled, but only discussions are visible on group's page.

[wmlvb]

SocialForums have ALL features that a forum can have, incl. subscriptions.

You can have both enabled, but only discussions are visible on group's page.

Thanks for reply. So does this mean that you actually have two groups systems or will the groups already created be integrated into the Socialforums system?

[Varsh]

All this plugin does is add the ability to have SG forums with the exact same ability that other forums can have. Why Jelsoft have not done this I do not know, it makes a lot more sense than SG discussions.

This plugin does allow you to turn off SG discussions (a very good idea as you'll be using forums).

[wmlvb]

All this plugin does is add the ability to have SG forums with the exact same ability that other forums can have. Why Jelsoft have not done this I do not know, it makes a lot more sense than SG discussions.

This plugin does allow you to turn off SG discussions (a very good idea as you'll be using forums).

I understand that but what I am asking is, I have about 20 groups already created by members who were excited by this SG feature, what will happen to those groups if I install SG Forums? Will they become a part of SG forums? Or will the only be in SG Discussions. If they stay as Sg discussions can I as an admin move them to Social Group forums? I do not want to have two totally separate system because they are not integrated. I need all groups to be on one or the other group system. Thanks for your help!

[Varsh]

What happens is that the SG leaders will be given a link at the bottom of their SG allowinf them to create a forum, when they click that the forum will be created and they will have their own forums. The current discussions are not converted to the forums but they will still be in the SG. It's just an addon and doesn't effect anything else.

[wmlvb]

What happens is that the SG leaders will be given a link at the bottom of their SG allowinf them to create a forum, when they click that the forum will be created and they will have their own forums. The current discussions are not converted to the forums but they will still be in the SG. It's just an addon and doesn't effect anything else.

Thanks for the good explainaion! So if I disable SDdiscussion will I lose those social groups that were created through SG discussion? I would like to just have to SGforums so there is not counfusion about which to choose between creating a Forum or a discussion but I do not want to lose those groups. Thanks again for the help

I should add that I do not mind if I lose the discussion already created as there were not that many but I do not want to lose the groups that were created

[Varsh]

You won't lose any Social Groups whatsoever otherwise the plugin won't work. :p

[punchbowl]

Why Jelsoft have not done this I do not know, it makes a lot more sense than SG discussions.

Makes me want to scream. There's groups that can have a leader that moderates joins and then there's social groups that have a leader that can moderate who joins. But the two are completely unrelated in the jelsoft thinking. One has functions like is_member_of the other doesn't.

We can only hope the we get social forums by vb4.0 and that all our boarded aren't f*cked in transition.

How can we turn off social group discussions?

[Varsh]

In the plugin options, there's an option to turn SG Discussions on or off. If you lot are trying it out on 3.8 then don't bother as it's not working yet.

[lingstar]

Is there a forum online that has this enabled? I'd love to see it. Thanks!

Barb

[jilly]

I have a board I am intentionally NOT upgrading to 3.8 yet because of the popularity and useage of the Social Forums feature - my question is, if a converter or upgrade is never developed, and I do finally have to upgrade, is there a way to keep the forums people have created? Like will they still be there, just the access masks will have to be adjusted? Several of the forums have lots of posts, polls, attachements, etc, and I don't want the people to lose access to them once I have to upgrade eventually..

[akonze]

I have a problem with this addon: The original founder of a group is not active anymore. Another user took over the group now using the new function to switch the owner in 3.8 RC. Now the new group leader wants to create a group forum. But he does not see the link to create the forum.

The new leaders user group has the right to create group forums. And the group has the minimum amount of group members. Did I forget to check anything else? Or is it a bug in the addon in combination with vb 3.8?

Thanks for any help!

[jilly]

I have a board I am intentionally NOT upgrading to 3.8 yet because of the popularity and useage of the Social Forums feature - my question is, if a converter or upgrade is never developed, and I do finally have to upgrade, is there a way to keep the forums people have created? Like will they still be there, just the access masks will have to be adjusted? Several of the forums have lots of posts, polls, attachements, etc, and I don't want the people to lose access to them once I have to upgrade eventually..

So has anyone upgraded yet, and if you did, what happened to the social forums your group created? Are they still there, just not connected to the groups anymore? Other than not being able to access them directly from the groups anymore, did any damage occur to the actual social forum?

[Farcaster]

I experienced no damage to the forums. It just doesn't have the link from or to the social group. Nor does it have the option to create a group any more.

[akonze]

Yesterday I deinstalled this addon. Somehow it deleted a bunch of topics created by group members.

As stated a few posts above I furthermore had many problems with ppl not able to create their group forums.

Therefore I can only recommend not to use this addon!

[Phalynx]

akonze, please don't spread such a nonsense. This mod does not even a single function to delete a post. "Somehow" it is technically NOT possible.

Please check your Moderator logs who has deleted the posts.

As for your problem not be able to create a forum - check permissions.

[MrEyes]

Well today I decided that I should look at 3.8 and start the process of working out my upgrade plan.

Everything seems to be fairly simple, however the 3.8 implementation of the Social Group messaging system is utterly dire, half hearted and should have taken some lessons from this mod, so I need to work out what to do.

So the question is what do you lot plan to do?

Use the mod and the new messaging system side by side?
Remove the mod and only use the new messaging system (using the migration tool mentioned in this thread)?
Disable group messages and use this mod?
Something else?

Phalynx, do you intend to make any changes to this brilliant mod for 3.8?

[Phalynx]

This really depends on how many users want this. Currently I'm thinking about it.

[MrEyes]

This really depends on how many users want this. Currently I'm thinking about it.

Well I would certainly be up for it, I would suggest a slightly different approach though...

This mod is fantastic but it has one problem that is not of its own making. The problem is vbulletins half hearted attempts at social group discussions, you only have a basic forum (or "mini forum" as they call it) and users expect to have the "bells & whistles".

I imagine that over the next year VB are going to twiddle and tweak and eventually get to the point where their default offering is a "bells & whistles" forum within the social group, with stickies, attachments, polls, announcements and a proper postbit etc.

Considering this and the glacial and somewhat blinkered pace that VB are developing SG forums I believe that continuing with the idea of this mod creating actual forums will always cause problems with upgrades and compatibility between whatever VB offers.

So all this being said, I would suggest creating a mod that adds the missing functionality to the default vBulletin social group messaging system. This means that as an when VB do decide to do something useful with SG messaging the mod can easily be changed and we get the benefit of useful messaging features.

[Varsh]

To be honest I'll be turning off the SG Board and use this mod simply because it benefits me a lot more (for particular reasons), creating a mod purely for the mini SG boards may be an idea but it's more beneficial (I feel) to have them directly on the main forum. One of the reasons for this, for me that is, is because for some SG's they're needing to have their own projects that only they will be able to see, this can't be done in a mini SG board.

[YabbaDabba]

This really depends on how many users want this. Currently I'm thinking about it.

I'm dedicated to this plug-in as it is essential to address missing vB functionality.

Are you considering bailing on the whole mod? Or whether its worth addressing SG messaging functionality?

[Bluefin221]

This really depends on how many users want this. Currently I'm thinking about it.

This has been downloaded over 500 times on this site, I would suggest that makes it popular and wanted, when I installed it I believe I said it was the best vBulletin addon I had come across, I have literally hundreds of my own users using social forums, they would not use it (social groups) if it was not for the social forums part and the integration it offers.

I really do hope you consider making it work for 3.8 as I will also be waiting to upgrade depending on what happens with social forums.

[subnet_rx]

I agree, my social group usage would drop significantly if this addon was dropped. I have 3.8 and my social forums are still working fine, is there some problem with this and 3.8 that I haven't seen yet?

[Bluefin221]

I agree, my social group usage would drop significantly if this addon was dropped. I have 3.8 and my social forums are still working fine, is there some problem with this and 3.8 that I haven't seen yet?

Check this post: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1698661&postcount=661

[Phalynx]

Just a short note: SocialForums 2.0 is now in work. It will work only with vBulletin 3.8 and replace it's Discussions.

I don't know when it will be finished, but I assume that a beta could be probably released in 1-2 weeks.

Please tell me what you are expecting from this, f.e. new features.

[MrEyes]

Please tell me what you are expecting from this, f.e. new features.

IMHO best case scenario would be this:

Entirely remove the default VB SG discussions and replace them with a fully functional forum, but have this on the SG page (like the default) rather than the forum list. I suppose I am saying a forum with the SG stuff (total pics, member list etc) at the top.

[GHC Webmaster]

Personally I liked the original way of the social forums, having the forums in the normal forum list/home, so would prefer to have at least the option to do that. On the other hand it would be nice to have the forum visible on the social groups page as well. So an option to choose one or both would be nice.

Actually if it would be possible to get the SG info on top of the forum when you click on it in the normal forum list that would be great as well. I suppose I could create a workaround by editing forums which are just links to another page (the SG page), if the forum would just be visible on the SG page.

[Bluefin221]

Just a short note: SocialForums 2.0 is now in work. It will work only with vBulletin 3.8 and replace it's Discussions.

I don't know when it will be finished, but I assume that a beta could be probably released in 1-2 weeks.

Please tell me what you are expecting from this, f.e. new features.

Keep it the way it is.

[YabbaDabba]

Just a short note: SocialForums 2.0 is now in work. It will work only with vBulletin 3.8 and replace it's Discussions.Thank you, thank you, thank you! :D

Please tell me what you are expecting from this, f.e. new features.Perhaps this is already possible and I just can't find it. Presently, we place all SF forums in a parent "Groups" forum that has a forced skin assignment (different from the regular non-group forums). It would be very useful if all the SF forums would inherit that "forced" skin. So a control in the SF Config such as "New forums automatically inherit Parent forum skin assignment? [ ] yes" would be wonderful!

Less important, but requiring non-trivial code:
The ability for a member to select a forum assignment for his new SF. That is, we have about a dozen "sub-category" forums to hold the member-created group forums. We'd like to allow the member to select the best match during the SF forum creation process. I imagine a control in the SF Config such as "SF creator-selectable parent forum assignments [ ]" with a text box that accepts a csv list of forum IDs would be necessary in the config panel and a drop down list of category names for the SF forum creator to select from.

"Groups" Forum set up as a category (parent forum)
-- Subgroup category A
---- SocialForum A1 run by member "XYZ"
---- SocialForum A2 run by member "Abc"
-- Subgroup category B
---- SocialForum B1 run by member "123"
---- SocialForum B2 run by member "asdf"
---- SocialForum B3 run by member "999"
-- Subgroup category C
---- SocialForum C1 run by member "XYZ"
---- SocialForum C2 run by member "jkl"


Other minor ideas/suggestions:
Help pop-ups for all SF config options
An option for "Show X threads" to enable "All"
"Parent forum" description suggestion: "All newly created social forums are placed here."

[Varsh]

Is there a possibility of allowing SG Leaders to be able to create a Project and have it added to their forum? Also maybe have an option to allow SG Leaders moved to a different usergroup if set to yes.

[subnet_rx]

I would almost say keep it the way it is also, the only thing that really confused me was permissioning. I had been operating with groups for a while before social groups came along using the groups that was built-in to vB. I'd create a group for someone, they would petition people to join, then upon getting enough members, I'd create a forum for them. The forum would show permissions for that group. With SG forums, you don't see permissions for the social group, just all other member groups on your forum.

Also, I don't know if I would put the forum inside the SG page. My members like the posts being listed in the new posts search. To be honest, I've always thought you could mod the old vB groups system to have a pretty comprehensive social group forum feature.

[Fraik]

Thats awesome! Here are a few features I'd think would be awesome, if possible:

Group avatar in forum description
Group category in forum description
Remove forum option for group leader
Automatically remove forum upon group removal
Automatically change forum moderator upon group leader changeAgain, great work and thanks for the effort :)

[punchbowl]

I'd like it pretty much as is.

[Bluefin221]

Has anyone encountered the following problem? I upgraded to 3.8.0 and when trying to approve pending members I received the following error: Fatal error: Call to a member function set_existing() on a non-object in /home/main/public_html/forums/group.php on line 3999

[Varsh]

There have been some hooks that have been renamed that's why, this plugin will not work with 3.8 so please keep this in mind, it most likely will be updated soon as this is a very popular mod.

[Thelonius Beck]

I'd like it pretty much as is.

Second.

The biggest issue with vB's Social Groups is it's lack of visibility. By creating forums to be displayed on forumhome, this mod greatly increased my members interest in using Social Groups.

[Mum]

Can't wait for the 3.8 version.

[Bluefin221]

Is there any movement on this? My members have been getting restless as they love the feature.

[Phalynx]

Currently in preparation, as my time is very limited for this. Also, I'm away from tomorrow until thursday, so no development will be done in this time.

[Varsh]

Is there any movement on this? My members have been getting restless as they love the feature.

Just tell them that they'll have to wait, patience my pedigree chum, we're all wanting and waiting for this, and I'm sure this'll be much better than before. :)

[Locutus2999]

I also can't wait for this to work with 3.8!

Thanks for the work you do.

[Bluefin221]

Currently in preparation, as my time is very limited for this. Also, I'm away from tomorrow until thursday, so no development will be done in this time.

Thanks very much for responding.

[jilly]

Currently in preparation, as my time is very limited for this. Also, I'm away from tomorrow until thursday, so no development will be done in this time.

Oh, you are going to upgrade this? Oh, that is so cool!! My members will be overjoyed!!!!

[WreckRman2]

I upgraded this with 3.8 and I wish I never did... I really miss having an actual forum for each group.

[GHC Webmaster]

I upgraded this with 3.8 and I wish I never did... I really miss having an actual forum for each group.

If with upgrading you mean running the "SocialForums to vB 3.8 Group Discussions Converter" script, that's not actually an upgrade of this mod. It just makes this mod obsolete.

As far as I now the real upgrade of SocialForums is still under construction.

[WreckRman2]

Yes, I did that and now I dislike it. :)

[GHC Webmaster]

You could restore a backup from before the update (if you have one), but that would obviously cost you everything that's been posted/done since then.

[nanaimobar]

Phalynx did a great job with this mod and coding takes time, for free or otherwise and that's why I donated a small amount to - hopefully - soon update mod for 3.8+. If you can afford a small donation then why not donate and show your appreciation too.

[Phalynx]

Thanks for nanaimobar and another donator for your support!

I'm still developing v2.0, hoping it will be finished at the beginning of the next week.

[BoyG]

donated a small amount too, hope we get the 3.8 version soon. good luck!!

[BoyG]

Donated a small amount too. Hope to get the 3.8 version soon. Good luck and thanks in advance!

[blogthea]

i am really looking forward for the 3.8 version! i would like to donate but i cant find the paypal link

[buro9]

This is a great mod, and when you have a 3.8 upgrade for it you'll have a donation from me.

Truly great work, this is what vbulletin should've done.

[blogthea]

and from me! you have done great work in SocialForums. Too bad vbulletin doesnt have an option for that

[Phalynx]

Good News: I finished the work on the first beta.

SocialForums 2.0 BETA has the following changes compared to 1.4.x:
- Works only with vBulletin 3.8
- New layout for threadlisting, similar to a real threadlist in a forum
- Possibility of a notice in Forums associated with a Social Group
- Minor changes and fixes

Install:
- Copy functions_socialforums.php to /includes/
- Import product XML

Awaiting your feedback.

[tldagent]

Good News: I finished the work on the first beta.

SocialForums 2.0 BETA has the following changes compared to 1.4.x:
- Works only with vBulletin 3.8
- New layout for threadlisting, similar to a real threadlist in a forum
- Possibility of a notice in Forums associated with a Social Group
- Minor changes and fixes

Install:
- Copy functions_socialforums.php to /includes/
- Import product XML

Awaiting your feedback.

Looks real good so far. Under threads though in the group, it shows one of them having a smiley and then below that is my forum home URL in the next forum thread where a smilie would be. If I remove the thread smiley it just moves up one. Not sure what causes this but it seems to widen my template out of order a little. Here's a link to the group (http://www.philosophyforum.com/forum/groups/16-pre-law-group.html).

[WreckRman2]

Yep mine too...

How do you create or link a group to a forum?

[jilly]

Good News: I finished the work on the first beta.

SocialForums 2.0 BETA has the following changes compared to 1.4.x:
- Works only with vBulletin 3.8
- New layout for threadlisting, similar to a real threadlist in a forum
- Possibility of a notice in Forums associated with a Social Group
- Minor changes and fixes

Install:
- Copy functions_socialforums.php to /includes/
- Import product XML

Awaiting your feedback.

f I want to put this on a board that has never had Social Forums on it before, do I use these instructions? Or do I install the main one in the beginning of the thread, and then do:

Install:
- Copy functions_socialforums.php to /includes/
- Import product XML

[Phalynx]

Looks real good so far. Under threads though in the group, it shows one of them having a smiley and then below that is my forum home URL in the next forum thread where a smilie would be. If I remove the thread smiley it just moves up one. Not sure what causes this but it seems to widen my template out of order a little. Here's a link to the group (http://www.philosophyforum.com/forum/groups/16-pre-law-group.html).
Will take a look.

Yep mine too...

How do you create or link a group to a forum?
There is a link at the bottom, near "Delete Group" and "Edit Group". It appears only if the group owner has the permission to create a forum and enough members.

f I want to put this on a board that has never had Social Forums on it before, do I use these instructions? Or do I install the main one in the beginning of the thread, and then do:

Install:
- Copy functions_socialforums.php to /includes/
- Import product XML
Yes, as this is only an update to the existing. I will release a complete install as soon as the beta is over.

[hollosch]

The situation in my forum:

Under vB 3.7 i had social forums 1.4 - after upgrade to vB 3.8 i deactivated the add-on and use the converter.

Is it right to use the new files now, re-activate the add-on an everything is fine ?
What about the converter and the group discussions made till now?

thx

[Phalynx]

The situation in my forum:

Under vB 3.7 i had social forums 1.4 - after upgrade to vB 3.8 i deactivated the add-on and use the converter.

Is it right to use the new files now, re-activate the add-on an everything is fine ?
What about the converter and the group discussions made till now?

thx

In this case all new discussions are hidden. I'm evaluating the possibility to move group discussions to forum threads.

[hollosch]

In this case all new discussions are hidden. I'm evaluating the possibility to move group discussions to forum threads.

cool, thanks

[Bluefin221]

I have found a few errors that have come up which I will post below.

This first one is when you try to accept or deny more members than one to a group, so you have to at this point do them one at a time.

Fatal error: Call to a member function set_existing() on a non-object in /home/main/public_html/forums/group.php on line 3999

This second one has only occured since I upgraded social forums.

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.0:

Invalid SQL:
SELECT
groupid
FROM vb_vforumssocialgroup
WHERE forumid=;

MySQL Error : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 4
Error Number : 1064
Request Date : Tuesday, March 3rd 2009 @ 01:08:55 PM
Error Date : Tuesday, March 3rd 2009 @ 01:08:55 PM
Script : /forums/forumdisplay.php
Referrer : /forums/index.php
IP Address : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx`
Username : Bluefin221
Classname : vB_Database
MySQL Version :

[Phalynx]

This first one is when you try to accept or deny more members than one to a group, so you have to at this point do them one at a time.

Fatal error: Call to a member function set_existing() on a non-object in /home/main/public_html/forums/group.php on line 3999

This error is *NOT* related to SocialForums. It will be fixed in vBulletin 3.8.2, see here:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php?issueid=27274

This second one has only occured since I upgraded social forums.

Fixed in next version (which will be RC)

[GHC Webmaster]

Done a quick test on my test version of vB. Noticed one thing:

Transfering the ownership of a group to another user doesn't change the forum's moderator as well. Which means this has to be changed manually by an admin.

For the rest it looks very good indeed.

[WreckRman2]

There is a link at the bottom, near "Delete Group" and "Edit Group". It appears only if the group owner has the permission to create a forum and enough members.




I do not have that link at all...

[WreckRman2]

If you visit "/forumdisplay.php?do=markread" it returns an SQL error:

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.0:
Invalid SQL:
SELECT
groupid
FROM socialgroup
WHERE forumid=;
MySQL Error : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 4
Error Number : 1064

[Bluefin221]

Thanks for the prompt answers guys.

[Phalynx]

Ok, I got the converter running. In the next release there will be a converter to transfer group discussions and messages into forums.


Done a quick test on my test version of vB. Noticed one thing:

Transfering the ownership of a group to another user doesn't change the forum's moderator as well. Which means this has to be changed manually by an admin.

For the rest it looks very good indeed.
I will try to implement this for the next version.

If you visit "/forumdisplay.php?do=markread" it returns an SQL error:
Already fixed in next version:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1759242&postcount=711

[WreckRman2]

When will we see the next version with it corrected so I'm not getting errors?

[Phalynx]

Tomorrow morning (European time).

[WreckRman2]

Cool, thanks...

[Phalynx]

SocialForums 2.0 has been released into the vBulletin 3.8 section. Support for 2.0 will be provided only there:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=207315

[abdelghani68]

*************

[Phalynx]

************* ?

[YabbaDabba]

Hi,

Love this Mod. We consider it essential. Excellent job!

Issue:
We want each Group Starter (Leader) to moderate his own social forum.

I see how that is enabled, and so far, so good.

However, the default Moderator permissions for Group Leaders are not quite what we want. They are more encompassing than we want to grant, so we want to dial the permissions down a little.

How do I set the default Moderator permissions for Group Leaders?
I know I can change them after the fact, but that still can cause dangerous situations.
The default settings give the Group Leaders too much power across the boards.
I'm hoping there's an easy way to set default Social Group Moderator permissions.

Thanks in advance.

[Phalynx]

YabbaDabba, please don't cross-post. I answered you in the 3.8 Thread.

[YabbaDabba]

Sorry for any confusion, but I intended it as 2 separate issues, not a cross post.

We currently run on vB 3.7 and use this SF 1.4.6 plug-in. The Moderator permissions issue is real for us right now. Hence my earlier post above.

We have been pushing back the upgrade to vB 3.8 until your SF 2.0 mod was released. We are running a vB3.8 dev site and trying a first pass integration with SF2. Various timing and resource issues are likely to delay the release of the our 3.8 site upgrade until mid-year.

We need the mod permissions issue resolved for both SF releases. You had indicated earlier that 2.0 was to be a substantial rewrite. So I asked the same question for both SF releases (1.4.6 and 2.0) in the expectation that there were two different answers.

[Phalynx]

Sorry for any confusion, but I intended it as 2 separate issues, not a cross post.

We currently run on vB 3.7 and use this SF 1.4.6 plug-in. The Moderator permissions issue is real for us right now. Hence my earlier post above.

We have been pushing back the upgrade to vB 3.8 until your SF 2.0 mod was released. We are running a vB3.8 dev site and trying a first pass integration with SF2. Various timing and resource issues are likely to delay the release of the our 3.8 site upgrade until mid-year.

We need the mod permissions issue resolved for both SF releases. You had indicated earlier that 2.0 was to be a substantial rewrite. So I asked the same question for both SF releases (1.4.6 and 2.0) in the expectation that there were two different answers.

As it was almost the same text I thought it was a cross post. Sorry.
In 2.0 the way the permissions are entered did not changed. In 1.4.6 you will change a plugin, in 2.0 you will need to edit a file.

[g00gl3r]

Any screenshots or demo's yet?

[Mum]

You can see my site for a demo :) Working and all in fine form.

[Wheezy]

This is amazing! It works flawlessly with my 3.7.0. Thanks SO much for sharing!!!

/me installs.

[pigsy]

Now that vb 3.8.x supports threaded discussion - is this mod no longer required?

[buro9]

Now that vb 3.8.x supports threaded discussion - is this mod no longer required?

Are you kidding?

Social group discussions are not rich discussions like forums. And this mod allows users to create their own forums. It's still very much required by some sites.

[Tettinntil]

I have this installed, but when I upgraded to VB3.8 the button disappeared, and everything got very messed up...

This group, feks, has more than 10 members (requirement to start a forum) - but see how messed up it is? It is all the way at the bottom, lots of blank spaces.

http://www.tettinntil.no/forumet/group.php?groupid=75

What should I do? I will gladly pay you to help me here... please?

[Tettinntil]

Someone? Please help? Just guide me...

[Phalynx]

Please make a screenshot or allow guests to view groups:
Du er ikke logget inn eller har ikke tillatelse til å komme inn på denne siden. Dette kan skyldes en av flere grunner:

[onealien]

installed and am looking forward to seeing how it works...

problem is im getting this vb error:
A required field called hasstatusicons is missing or has an invalid value.

not sure where its generating from. it happens as soon as i click on "create forum"...

thx

[dale09]

Will this ever work with 4.1.x ? Would like to check it out on the newer versions of vB

[ishare]

installed and am looking forward to seeing how it works...

problem is im getting this vb error:
A required field called hasstatusicons is missing or has an invalid value.

not sure where its generating from. it happens as soon as i click on "create forum"...

thx

i have same problem...

[sticky]

Will this ever work with 4.1.x ? Would like to check it out on the newer versions of vB
Same question would love this.

[Niak_Judge]

Will this ever work with 4.1.x ? Would like to check it out on the newer versions of vB

Would be very nice, I need that too...