vBulletin 3.7.0 Beta 5 Released

[vB.Org System]

vBulletin 3.7.0 Beta 5

THIS IS BETA SOFTWARE.
IT IS UNSUPPORTED.

If you are not fully at home with backing-up and restoring your forum, dealing with bugs and regular upgrades, DO NOT INSTALL THIS BETA VERSION

After an extended period of fixing bugs and polishing features, it's time to bring you what we hope to be the final beta release of vBulletin 3.7.0 before we go to the release candidate stage.

Customers running prior versions of vBulletin 3.7.0 Beta should upgrade as soon as possible, to ensure that any known problems are eliminated.

Conversation
vBulletin 3.7.0 Beta 5 introduces the Conversation feature; a means by which visitor messages posted between two users on each others' profile pages can be viewed in a unified form. Look for the 'View Conversation' link on visitor messages to use the feature.

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Significance of a Beta Release
This is beta software. If you are not fully at home with backing-up and restoring your forum, dealing with bugs and regular upgrades, do not install this beta version.

Customers should bear in mind that this is a public beta, not a certified 'stable' release so the following caveats apply:
Beta software is unsupported and you install beta versions at your own risk.
Some minor bugs remain unresolved at this time, so beta software should not be on production sites.
You should always back up your database fully before attempting to install beta software.
If you choose to install this version, you should be aware that we plan to release new beta versions in rapid succession as bugs are fixed and holes are plugged. Do not install this beta version if you are not willing or able to keep up-to-date with new releases.
The ImpEx import system does not support the 3.7 code yet, and will not support it until the release of 3.7.0 (stable).


More... (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260031&goto=newpost)

[cheat-master30]

I might install this soon, although people must remember that this is not the best time for a release...

[aseer_al7ob]

Iam waiting Gold version

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Before there will be a "Gold" version there will first be 1 or more RC (Release Candidate) versions.

[nexialys]

end of Beta just mean end of additions... does not mean end of debugs... :)

i did not check the codes yet, be sure i will find some problems to be solved... lol

[skrazydogz]

I waiting of gold status too :-/

[cheat-master30]

Forgot to just add that I have finally upgraded my version of vBulletin with no problems at all.

[skrazydogz]

yes i have 90 Hacks installed and i think they not compatible with vb3.7

[KURTZ]

on my board i've installed some hack ... fortunately they are ALL compatibles ... (i only disable the hooks system before the upgrade and all runs correctly)

nice job (many bugs are "solved")

[MrPHD]

Installed, working and stay 100%. regards
I´m a worker and i don´t understanding nothing about vBulletin.

[WFZ]

Nice, I look forward to upgrading.!

[Boofo]

I might install this soon, although people must remember that this is not the best time for a release...

Why is this not the best time and when is there really a best time, anyway? LOL

Also just upgraded and it went smooth and fast.

[Michael Biddle]

Upgraded as well. Took a wopping 8 clicks I think.

[Tefra]

On the other hand i believe it's a good day for release, i will probably upgrade this weekend. From what i managed to check most of the important new hooks have been added (or at least those i was expecting), there won't be any major template edit from now on, since no other features will be added so vb3.7.0 b5 here i come lol.

[Boofo]

Upgraded as well. Took a wopping 8 clicks I think.

I don't know about you but I missed half of a commercial message on TV while upgrading. I am upset to say the least. ;)

Time for a nap now. That button clicking has worn me out.

[Paul M]

... people must remember that this is not the best time for a release...
Why :confused:

[demgel]

Why :confused:
yes... why??? :S


UPGRADING % :D

Edited:
Upgraded :)

[Playa82]

*installed*

works great

[kiril_cvetkov]

when will be released the vbulletin 3.7.0 stable??

[dreads]

Hopfully soon, yet i probly wont upgrade till i know its safe in book

[Boofo]

Hopefully this will be the last beta and we can move on to the RCs. As far as my small site goes, it has been stable for me since beta 3. I upgraded to beta 4 the day after I installed beta 3, actually.

[Paul M]

when will be released the vbulletin 3.7.0 stable??
2008. :)

[Boofo]

You hope.

[Ryuk]

we hope lol

[Geez]

Hopefully this will be the last beta and we can move on to the RCs. As far as my small site goes, it has been stable for me since beta 3. I upgraded to beta 4 the day after I installed beta 3, actually.

im sort of a noob

once you are into the "rc" stage, does that mean its a "stable version" or is that the final step before it becomes stable?

[ZeroHour]

They really need to do something about the social groups and just the general way people are notified etc. My members dont really notice if anyone has posted there at all.
For that reason I hope there is at least *1* more beta :p

[rapidphim]

Hopfully soon, yet i probly wont upgrade till i know its safe in book

By the time it's safe in the book.. another vb upgrade soon to be released.

[cheat-master30]

Why :confused:

Semi personal reason about a lack of internet access, but still managed to upgrade site to vBulletin 3.7 beta 5.

[Boofo]

im sort of a noob

once you are into the "rc" stage, does that mean its a "stable version" or is that the final step before it becomes stable?

RC = Release Candidate

That means it's in the final stages and most of anything that was added has already been done. This is the serious bug-finding stage. Hopefully a lot of them have already been found and corrected. The RC versions are supposedly more stable than the betas although I have found the last couple of betas pretty stable.

[Geez]

RC = Release Candidate

That means it's in the final stages and most of anything that was added has already been done. This is the serious bug-finding stage. Hopefully a lot of them have already been found and corrected. The RC versions are supposedly more stable than the betas although I have found the last couple of betas pretty stable.

ok i got ya.

might i assume the bugs in the RC stage wouldnt be big enough to worry about too much? just minor inconvienences, not obvious, error causing bugs that would seriously affect the members?


thank you sir!

[Boofo]

It depends on how vb savvy you are and if you are willing to put up with a little discomfort every now and then. If you can paste and copy, then all you have to do is check out the bug reports for any fixes on the com as they happen and you will be fine. Like I said in the post above, the last 2 betas have been fairly stable for me. But then I run a small board so I don't get the beating a bigger site gets. I say...Go for it! ;)

[avsunforum]

3.7.0 Beta 5 Upgrade functions.php erorr:confused:

[Boofo]

Why are you posting this here? I answered it in the other thread.

[Geez]

It depends on how vb savvy you are and if you are willing to put up with a little discomfort every now and then. If you can paste and copy, then all you have to do is check out the bug reports for any fixes on the com as they happen and you will be fine. Like I said in the post above, the last 2 betas have been fairly stable for me. But then I run a small board so I don't get the beating a bigger site gets. I say...Go for it! ;)

I bet you my board is smaller :)

Yeah, I'm comfortable with all that.... thank you for your help, I appreciate it

[Boofo]

If you run into any problems let me know. Chances are I will have already found them and have the fix for it. ;)

[halkum]

Upgraded with no issue. The fun upgrade was from 3.6.8 to 3.7.0b4. The 5b was piece of cake. All my mods work great, had to do a little configuring nav bar wise and such after reverting templates, but its all good.

[rinkrat]

I live on the edge and install these the day they come out! :)

[Boofo]

You are such a rebel! ;)

[Geez]

If you run into any problems let me know. Chances are I will have already found them and have the fix for it. ;)

Thanks man. Ill let ya know! :D

[idbuchanan]

RC = Release Candidate

That means it's in the final stages and most of anything that was added has already been done. This is the serious bug-finding stage. Hopefully a lot of them have already been found and corrected. The RC versions are supposedly more stable than the betas although I have found the last couple of betas pretty stable.

Sorry to be pedantic but I think it's important in this case... RC's should NOT be the serious bug finding stage!!! Betas are the serious bug finding stages. A "Release Candidate" does exactly what it says on the tin, it's a candidate for release and is a final safeguard to spot any final bugs.

In an ideal world all bugs are fixed after the last beta, and then a RC is released without bugs - that RC then goes Gold/RTM and Bob's your cousin's father. Of course in many cases there'll rightly be several RCs just to ensure that all bugs are indeed caught - but when a RC is released with no bugs (or just a couple of minor ones that can be fixed without having an impact elsewhere), then the code is ready to go Gold/RTM.

I know - I need a slap for being so pedantic, but it's happening more and more where RCs are treated like Betas, and final software is treated like RCs, and I think it's healthy just to stop and think about each part of the design/release cycle of software - to set expectations correctly and to back up programmers/coders when users/owners are expecting too much.

Oh, and happily been using 3.7b3 since its release without any issues - will be upgrading to 3.7b5 this weekend!

[nexialys]

Sorry to be pedantic but I think it's important in this case... RC's should NOT be the serious bug finding stage!!! Betas are the serious bug finding stages. A "Release Candidate" does exactly what it says on the tin, it's a candidate for release and is a final safeguard to spot any final bugs.

actually, even if you do not agree with the terms and definitions, you can't do a thing about it... it is general usage in the code development and in the industry that Beta is for fixing development and RC is for bugs roundup... you would have to argue with the base of the internet to make it change...

>>> Software Release life Cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_candidate), by Wikipedia

[Boofo]

Sorry to be pedantic but I think it's important in this case... RC's should NOT be the serious bug finding stage!!! Betas are the serious bug finding stages. A "Release Candidate" does exactly what it says on the tin, it's a candidate for release and is a final safeguard to spot any final bugs.

In an ideal world all bugs are fixed after the last beta, and then a RC is released without bugs - that RC then goes Gold/RTM and Bob's your cousin's father. Of course in many cases there'll rightly be several RCs just to ensure that all bugs are indeed caught - but when a RC is released with no bugs (or just a couple of minor ones that can be fixed without having an impact elsewhere), then the code is ready to go Gold/RTM.

I know - I need a slap for being so pedantic, but it's happening more and more where RCs are treated like Betas, and final software is treated like RCs, and I think it's healthy just to stop and think about each part of the design/release cycle of software - to set expectations correctly and to back up programmers/coders when users/owners are expecting too much.

Oh, and happily been using 3.7b3 since its release without any issues - will be upgrading to 3.7b5 this weekend!

To clarify things, by saying serious bug finding stage I meant the RCs concentrate on finding the final bugs and that is their main propose, not adding or changing a lot of things anymore.

And the part about me being your cousin's father, I have apologized for that over and over and sent all the support payments. What else do you want? ;)

[Tefra]

i just finished the upgrade, the vb upgrade took me about 10minutes, with prepared the changed templates on my localhost, 5 more minutes to write a simple permission plugin for the thread prefixes, after that 2 more hours to switch my site news system from the forum category, to the thread prefix system. 2K Threads moves, thx god it's over.

[habbworpe]

Im probibly going to install it Beta 6
So its all good.

[abroad]

where is this "view conversation" link? Cant see anything at my visitor messages after the installation...do I have to activate something?

[i156]

I am running version 3.6.8. Is there any way to install this in a different directory but use the same database to make sure it works first? I'm assuming no but wanted to ask.

[Brandon Sheley]

I am running version 3.6.8. Is there any way to install this in a different directory but use the same database to make sure it works first? I'm assuming no but wanted to ask.

you can make a backup of your site and set that up in a test sub-folder, change the db name and everything.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I am running version 3.6.8. Is there any way to install this in a different directory but use the same database to make sure it works first? I'm assuming no but wanted to ask.
No you can not use the same database (unless you install twice with different table prefix). Installing 3.7 using your production database would upgrade all tables to their 3.7 version, leaving your 3.6.8 installation useless.

[m002.p]

seems like the BETA's are running to 1000 :p

Would be good to have a stable full release soon rather than all these BETA's :D

I do understand that they are needed in order to release such a version, but 5??? we are having more? LOL Surely this could be compacted a little but nevermind, keep up the good work vb team!

[nexialys]

hum, actually, as this site is dedicated to development and coding, it is the worst place for the regular public to look at when they are stressed about releases...

if you do not like betas and alphas, do not visit this site... you'll be disapointed all day long

[m002.p]

hum, actually, as this site is dedicated to development and coding, it is the worst place for the regular public to look at when they are stressed about releases...

if you do not like betas and alphas, do not visit this site... you'll be disapointed all day long

I didnt say I do not like betas or alphas for that matter ;) Plus im no regular public person nor stressed out about releases. Im happy with 3.6.8 actually LOL

I was merely saying that it feels as though we are having so many BETA versions for 3.7. For software I release for my business, I have a max of 3 bug permitting. Ive found developing more BETA versions often wastes more valuable time in releasing or getting closer to the actual full version. Sometimes its better to compact the amount but perfect each BETA before release of another.

[Terrie]

I am running 3.6.8 with the latest version of photopost.
In looking at the new features of 3.7 with it's built in
photo gallery and customizable profile pages would it be
wise for me to phase out my photopost? I like photopost
but it's looking as though i may not need it after upgrade.

[StonePilot]

I am running 3.6.8 with the latest version of photopost.
In looking at the new features of 3.7 with it's built in
photo gallery and customizable profile pages would it be
wise for me to phase out my photopost? I like photopost
but it's looking as though i may not need it after upgrade.


This is my question as well. I had an unsucceessful implementation of PhotoPost on one of my sites and I am interested to learn more about the photo album features in 3.7.

[nexialys]

there is no link between a album in 3.7 and photopost... the album in vBulletin is a personal list of pictures, not a album made public with a load of features...

[beishe8]

This is my question as well. I had an unsucceessful implementation of PhotoPost on one of my sites and I am interested to learn more about the photo album features in 3.7.

Don't even think to replace photo post-gallery hacks with 3.7's album(s).
It has to be improved significantly.

[cajunboy2208]

I really like the new 3.7 features.
My mods are especially loving the delete posts as spam.

[ThePimp]

Why is vBorg still running 3.6.8?

[carubmun]

2008. :)

Thats what Axl Rose said :D

[ZeroHour]

Why is vBorg still running 3.6.8?

I wouldnt test it if my forums were this big either. Imaging if vBorg went down due to a 3.7 but for a while :eek:

[Shazz]

Why is vBorg still running 3.6.8?

They wouldn't want to upgrade on every beta or RC version :)

[Ohiosweetheart]

I am running 3.6.8 with the latest version of photopost.
In looking at the new features of 3.7 with it's built in
photo gallery and customizable profile pages would it be
wise for me to phase out my photopost? I like photopost
but it's looking as though i may not need it after upgrade.

This is my question as well. I had an unsucceessful implementation of PhotoPost on one of my sites and I am interested to learn more about the photo album features in 3.7.

Don't even think to replace photo post-gallery hacks with 3.7's album(s).
It has to be improved significantly.

the 3.7 profile album is just that - an album - not a gallery, and was not created to, nor was it ever meant to, replace any gallery add-on for vB. These are personal picture albums and will very likely not be given many more features. So if you're running photopost or vBPicgallery or any other gallery add-on and don't want to be without their features, keep 'em. ;)

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Hopefully this will be the last beta and we can move on to the RCs. As far as my small site goes, it has been stable for me since beta 3. I upgraded to beta 4 the day after I installed beta 3, actually.

I've been running TalkOhio on 3.7 since beta3, and just upgraded my designs site to beta5. No problems at all for me.

I understand that there will be a beta 6. Hopefully, it'll be out this coming week.

[Terrie]

the 3.7 profile album is just that - an album - not a gallery, and was not created to, nor was it ever meant to, replace any gallery add-on for vB. These are personal picture albums and will very likely not be given many more features. So if you're running photopost or vBPicgallery or any other gallery add-on and don't want to be without their features, keep 'em. ;)

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I've been running TalkOhio on 3.7 since beta3, and just upgraded my designs site to beta5. No problems at all for me.

I understand that there will be a beta 6. Hopefully, it'll be out this coming week.


Thank you so much for the information. I will definitely be keeping my photo post.

[howard30]

I dont like the way it says befriend [username]

[Ohiosweetheart]

I didn't like it either, but can't think of another word I like better :rolleyes:

[sully02]

Looks like Beta 6 is up and running on vB.com, so I'm guessing it'll be available to the masses real soon.

[Shazz]

A RC1 would be no surprise

[FOMSCU Forum]

3.7.0 Beta 6 Released Guys

[xixxon]

yay cool...im waiting for beta 6 :D

[cheat-master30]

Since beta 6 is running at vBulletin.com, it probably won't be long now...

[MrPHD]

3.7.0 Beta 6 Released Guys

Hi, yes is running on vbulletin.com but not Released. best Regards

Now at this time, is Released.