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11-23-2007, 12:10 PM
vBulletin 3.7 - First Look

It's that time again! Today, the vBulletin development team is proud to unveil for the first time the forthcoming vBulletin version: 3.7.0.

vBulletin 3.7.0 contains a plethora of new features, many of which have been long requested by users and customers, while other new features will come as a surprise to everyone. 3.7.0 is slated to be the final major release of the vBulletin 3.x series before all forum development efforts are switched over to vBulletin 4.x, after which 3.x will receive only bug fix releases.

In terms of timescales, the plan is to upgrade vBulletin.com to run on vBulletin 3.7.0 on Monday (November 26th) and to let it run for a few days in order to get some feedback and bug reports before releasing the first public beta.

So, to the important bit: what's new in vBulletin 3.7?

Answer: Lots. But here, in no particular order, are some highlights...


Please read the full announcement and all new features at vBulletin.com: More... (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249460&goto=newpost)

Mazinger
11-23-2007, 12:30 PM
3.7 looks awesome! Deserves waiting! :)

PoetJA-1975
11-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Oh WOW! Takin a look-see right now!
Thanx for the post

Jacquii.

Paul M
11-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Some interesting features.

Triky
11-23-2007, 12:50 PM
I can't wait (really, LOL).

Basscat
11-23-2007, 01:07 PM
Some much needed features. I know what I will be doing tonight....UPGRADES!

steven s
11-23-2007, 01:16 PM
Some much needed features. I know what I will be doing tonight....UPGRADES!Not tonight.

VADOS
11-23-2007, 01:24 PM
Awesome, I'm already waiting 3.7 =))

Ziki
11-23-2007, 01:48 PM
Are there any changes in coding?Like from 3.0 to 3.5?

Guest190829
11-23-2007, 01:51 PM
Well they implemented YUI, so all AJAX features may (and should) have to be changed to consist with YUI. I doubt there will be a major change to backend code though going from 3.6 to 3.7...

RedTyger
11-23-2007, 02:12 PM
Interesting. I was so convinced they were going to do friendly URLs. I'm actually quite impressed with the amount of added stuff, more than I thought and it generally looks very useful indeed as well. Not impressed with the design of the new social stuff though, it looks pretty rough to me.

s0lidgr0und
11-23-2007, 02:16 PM
I've never been part of a major upgrade before. What happens to modifications you have on an earlier version of vb if the newer version has that feature as a standard feature?

RedTyger
11-23-2007, 02:17 PM
People stop using that modification, generally. Unless it still has things that the default feature does not.

valdet
11-23-2007, 02:41 PM
User Picture Galleries and Lightbox implementation look great.

It was definitely a great decision to move to YUI platform. Its fantastic news.

Cant waitto see it in action in my site.

projectego
11-23-2007, 02:56 PM
Sounds very cool to me. Can't wait. :D

nexialys
11-23-2007, 02:59 PM
so, 75% of the hacks released for 3.6 on vb.org are now integrated into 3.7... this is good news... that means that the coders here had GREAT ideas and concepts... (now, where are the credits for the ideas ?!)

just for these new features, i will open a new board on 3.7.. ;)

Dream
11-23-2007, 03:09 PM
It's a very nice release, I'm glad Jelsoft seems to be moving from a "small fast code" to a "feature rich application". I only few bad for the big boards, but Jelsoft customer base seems to be more geared towards the second option.

I wish they have function aliases for old Ajax functions, or else I'll have a lot of work recoding mods :( and I'm lazy heh.

Mike Gaidin
11-23-2007, 03:10 PM
Nice, can't wait!

bollie
11-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Look nice ;)

CarpHunter
11-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Real nice list with new features :D
Some in the list I already use via mods.

Now all I have to do is wait and see how much they altered in the code to make my mods 3.7 compatible :)

blazingpc
11-23-2007, 03:35 PM
I will wait for the bugs to be worked out before upgrading.

I see it being like 3.6.8 and it being pushed out to soon and scrambling to make patches to fix the bugs and holes.

iogames
11-23-2007, 03:54 PM
Santa Clauss Is Coming To Town!

Guest210212002
11-23-2007, 04:13 PM
The user profile page looks amazing.

BrandiDup
11-23-2007, 04:32 PM
WOW! I can't wait to see some of the new features.

Paul M
11-23-2007, 04:40 PM
so, 75% of the hacks released for 3.6 on vb.org are now integrated into 3.7... this is good news... that means that the coders here had GREAT ideas and concepts... (now, where are the credits for the ideas ?!)


I think 75% may be a slight over estimate ;)

I thought they might finally have put my most popular mod "out of business", given how many forums seem to use it these days - but it looks like I'll be doing a 3.7 version :)

vwdforum
11-23-2007, 04:49 PM
looks good, can't wait!

s0lidgr0und
11-23-2007, 04:59 PM
So should I stop adding modifications to my site until after this newest version is released and the hacks are re-released for 3.7?

steven s
11-23-2007, 05:03 PM
So should I stop adding modifications to my site until after this newest version is released and the hacks are re-released for 3.7?I'd hold off. You know there will be templates to be reverted and edits reapplied.

s0lidgr0und
11-23-2007, 05:10 PM
I'd hold off. You know there will be templates to be reverted and edits reapplied.<insert expletive here>

Thanks for the advice.

VADOS
11-23-2007, 05:51 PM
I can't get just 1 thing: why they can not make "smiles in quickreply" by default (in a table, not drop-down) and "quote selected text in post"?!
On every next release of vB I believe they will release that kind of options, but not... ;(

apiasto
11-23-2007, 05:52 PM
its about time

Shazz
11-23-2007, 05:55 PM
Seems like some major changes :eek:

G0F0RBR0KE
11-23-2007, 06:42 PM
I can't wait for it to be release.

Shazz
11-23-2007, 06:49 PM
First question as always members will have. "Will my mods work on 3.7"

G0F0RBR0KE
11-23-2007, 06:51 PM
Some of them will and some of them won't.

I think a lot of modification will have to be re-done for 3.7.

ChU v2
11-23-2007, 06:54 PM
Wow, they have done a lot. 3.7 looks amazing.

GENERATION-X
11-23-2007, 07:25 PM
wow .. that really sounds like we have a great christmas time here ..

Ohiosweetheart
11-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Absolutely worth the wait. :D

Jikdor
11-23-2007, 09:07 PM
Wow... I want it NOW!

Aclikyano
11-23-2007, 09:23 PM
when does it come out?

Dream
11-23-2007, 09:24 PM
Before the end of this year it seems if all goes well in the beta phase.

Aclikyano
11-23-2007, 09:28 PM
thx dream!

Reeve of shinra
11-23-2007, 09:37 PM
I cant wait to play with the beta! :)

ReQueM
11-23-2007, 09:46 PM
Can't wait.. Can't wait.. LOL :D

kiril_cvetkov
11-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Greetings to vbulletin team.. and I wish nice moments on new vbulletin to all users

apiasto
11-23-2007, 10:05 PM
hmmm so i should stop searching for new mods,lol.cause some of them are really helpfull

Almotmaiz.Net
11-23-2007, 10:12 PM
Woo:eek:ooW !! i love it !!


Can't Wait !!

MR.BOSS
11-23-2007, 10:33 PM
wow i like it, when will it be officially released?

thanks

Basscat
11-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Some much needed features. I know what I will be doing tonight....UPGRADES!

Not tonight.

Whoops....I got a little excited and jumped the gun :D

aseer_al7ob
11-23-2007, 11:02 PM
Very cool

We are waiting for it ..

pheroman
11-23-2007, 11:51 PM
Look nice

nokturno
11-24-2007, 12:27 AM
I'm already waiting 3.7

gbml4u
11-24-2007, 02:47 AM
so..Continues using 3.6.x with fully great mods and support or try this totally new version 3.7.x ?

I had the same question for myself when VBB updated 3.5.x to 3.6.x...

but Great news ;)

CarlitoBrigante
11-24-2007, 03:38 AM
Terrific news! Scary for a developer, but great news indeed. They have added a lot of flashy features, but also a lot of truly necessary features that will make life of moderators and administrators much, much easier. Great job!

donnacha
11-24-2007, 04:47 AM
Sorry, but could someone post a rough estimate of when 3.7 will be released?

I realize that this question will have been asked many times on other threads but I don't visit vb.org as often as I used to and don't have time to trawl through all the threads I've missed.

Any hints or guesstimates would be much appreciated.

Marco van Herwaarden
11-24-2007, 04:56 AM
Sorry, but could someone post a rough estimate of when 3.7 will be released?

As always: When it is ready

Please don't ask about release dates. Once they are known they will be announced at vBulletin.com

donnacha
11-24-2007, 05:15 AM
As always: When it is ready

Please don't ask about release dates. Once they are known they will be announced at vBulletin.com

I realize that, when most of the people who hang out at this forum worship the VB team as gods, it must be hard for you to remember that, in the real world, it is just not acceptable to be that rude to paying customers. That sort of attitude is more appropriate to ego-fueled FOSS projects.

I specifically asked for a "rough estimate", "a hint", a "guesstimate" and, as such, it should be possible for someone to throw us something along the lines of "possibly in Spring" or whatever without feeling that they have written anything in stone.

It was a reasonably questions and I am sure I am not the only person wondering the same thing.

Again, sarcastic answers such as "when it is ready" do not make you appear intelligent, they make you appear rude.

Marco van Herwaarden
11-24-2007, 05:43 AM
You might see it as sarcastic, but it is not. It is the most realistic answer i can give.

donnacha
11-24-2007, 05:57 AM
Fair enough, cultural misunderstanding.

---MAD---
11-24-2007, 08:14 AM
Well they implemented YUI, so all AJAX features may (and should) have to be changed to consist with YUI. I doubt there will be a major change to backend code though going from 3.6 to 3.7...
Kier has said there is no back end change but yes the ajax addons may need updating.

donnacha[/b]] Sorry, but could someone post a rough estimate of when 3.7 will be released?

3.7.0 will be released before the new year or maybe just after depending on beta/rc stages :).

Me: My guess is this year is the beta/rc year. Stable will be out next year I would imagine.
Kier: No, sooner than that.
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244879&page=4

D3m-fny
11-24-2007, 08:52 AM
Thanx for the post
im wating ..

Subah
11-24-2007, 09:16 AM
Like it and waiting it ;)

Shanj
11-24-2007, 10:15 AM
Re timescale Kier said:
the plan is to upgrade vBulletin.com to run on vBulletin 3.7.0 on Monday (November 26th) and to let it run for a few days in order to get some feedback and bug reports before releasing the first public beta.
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I really like the look of 3.7.

My main gripe is that it really should be possible to let us have at least a very basic list of features about a month before the announcement.
Being cautious Ive been checking out every other social networking option there is zoints drupal socialengine madebymary ... if it exists Ive checked it. I felt I had to do that because I had no idea how much this vb3.7 would meet my needs so if it was inadequate I wanted to have a backup option ready to go.
So an announcement that said 3.7 was INTENDED to come in beta before December (there was an anticipation thread but the news was pretty vague)
and a list like Profile changes incl Gallery, Groups, Colour customising.
Not detail just headings.
This should be possible. We do need to be treated like adult partners, albeit junior partners in the project. It's not just the devs who have pressures on when and how. As admins we also have pressure of deadlines, demands from our users, needs to PLAN our work not just hang around like small kids or wartime rationing shops! waiting for the doors to open.
For example my work means I have a substantial window of slow time over the midwinter academic holidays. So one way or the other I need to get my social networking choice set up then. If I'd had definite notice that the AIM was to get the beta out by end of November I could have cut a lot of stress and hours of checking other options as backups in case vb3.7 didn't have any of the stuff I need, or wasn't arriving till January..

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Like others I'm nervous how much 3.7 is going to smash my custom templates. But it's worth it. Would MUCH rather be doing the customisation over the quiet period of the xmas period so I hope the release will be just before xmas. Once we get into January my frontline work will get busy and hard to find time for admin jobs.

I'm particularly pleased with the social networking stuff. User changing colours is great and the gallery looks good.
We need a hack to put descriptions on gallery pics?

Would have been nice to have an admin GUI to move the profile blocks up /down. It'll mean experimentally moving code blocks and prob getting it wrong so a block disappears and I'm up half the night going back to default and redoing it. <sigh> Any chance of a hack there?

I have written to the person who does Profile tags (linked keywords in interests, so you can click link to see who has same interest) to alert them we'll need a 3.7 compatibility check.

Finally what about blogs? It makes sense for user blogs to link off their profile. So a block that admin can enable if they've installed blogs required.

From my research into other options:
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I was particularly disappointed with zoints. They call their thingy "local" but IT IS NOT. It 100% forces you to allow access to your community by all the mass of zoints members. And your members have forced access with no admin protected space no admin control over access TO zoints network.
For anyone handling vulnerable people, minors, a professional work project or an education one, this ws useless or high risk of inappropriate contact. Also new communities are at risk of members being bled off by the bigger more developed sub-communities on zoints. Zoints however are totally uninterested in these concerns. Even though they HAVE a truly local script they just withdrew from users a couple of months ago. All I got in repy to request for info and consideration was blah sorry no.
However if you are not handling any younger or vulnerable type members, and your project is established enough you feel you can compete with others similar (or you're really different!) and your members are not working in any way seriously on projects so outsiders crashing in not a problem, then zoints is worth a look.
I just object to it being called "zoints local" when it's a completely open network. It also requires going into the real detail of the demo before you realise what you'd get. There's no warning in the features blurb to tell you.

Otherwise for anyone not wanting to use 3.7 for social networking for some reason I found

MadeByMary mod very good features and lots of them, support fast and good and friendly (this is the best alternative) No custom colours!;
socialengine good features, fast response for support;
dolphin good features but slightly slow response to query re vb integration which is coming in the next month I think. As long as the bridging works well the features are good.

tschai
11-24-2007, 10:27 AM
Look promissing: a lot of features, which are now out of the box, although many of them were in a form available as a hack/mod.

Therefore very little features, which make you go 'WOW' as a regular vb.org visitor...

There it will not be usefull for me to ugrade...mainly because I expect a lot of problems, doing so.

But nice work indeed.
And I support teh fact that it will be released when it it's finsihed...instad of many patches...

I like to see a 'Web 2.0'-ish or another new/original skin as default by now...

PS: Will the YUI/Ajax implementation fix the non-working AjAx-features with non-deault languages?

Fraik
11-24-2007, 11:54 AM
This is looking nice. A social network solution is something I would not normally take the trouble to install, but this is looking pretty neat! The anti-spam measures are also great - but Im still hoping for a report function for private messaging, spambots seem to have found out the PM is nice secretive way to send users crap.

The profile template still doesn't look very good :( Looks like this will be a challenge to improve upon. My custom templates are mostly limited to the postbit, forumhome and profile templates. Shouldn't be too much trouble to update :)

I'm hoping this will be available in stable release before Christmas, as I would hate to take down my boards even for a few hours during the holidays.

Wayne Luke
11-24-2007, 12:17 PM
Would have been nice to have an admin GUI to move the profile blocks up /down. It'll mean experimentally moving code blocks and prob getting it wrong so a block disappears and I'm up half the night going back to default and redoing it. <sigh> Any chance of a hack there?


From what I have seen each of the Right Column blocks is a single line/variable in the MEMBERINFO template. There is also a generous amount of template hooks available for custom blocks.

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PS: Will the YUI/Ajax implementation fix the non-working AjAx-features with non-deault languages?

Not every installation with a non-default language has problems with the AJAX features. Those that do would have to provide feedback during the testing phase.

sundarmobiles
11-24-2007, 01:20 PM
hmm lots of features waiting for this one...................

TosaInu
11-24-2007, 03:11 PM
Hello,

3.7 looks nice indeed.

We are using the thread-prefixes hack and lots of topics are set. Will they be lost when upgrading to 3.7, do we need to rename tables in the database or will 3.7 use what's already there?

Rajdeep
11-24-2007, 03:45 PM
Plz also Add- Most Recent Posts at bottom, just like in SMF...

It helps in seeing the recent post easily and finding the spamed post...

It would be great, if u add it

Thanks

habbworpe
11-24-2007, 03:48 PM
This update looks awesome.

csavern
11-24-2007, 03:56 PM
One problem IT IS TAKING TO LONG

I seen this post yesterday seems like i been waiting a week already

RvG2
11-24-2007, 03:59 PM
vb.org coders have a new toy to play with! :)

I am sure whatever they finds lacking on 3.7 they will definitely fill up the missing ones.

Paul M
11-24-2007, 04:43 PM
We are using the thread-prefixes hack and lots of topics are set. Will they be lost when upgrading to 3.7, do we need to rename tables in the database or will 3.7 use what's already there?


We won't know the answer to that until its released. Here at vbulletin.org, we are very much interested in the answer as we use the prefix modification here, but I'm afraid even we do not get to find out before anyone else.

nexialys
11-24-2007, 04:46 PM
Hum, actually, about the prefixes... who released the first version and who released the second one will help to know if we can create a import for it too... insights!

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oh, btw, i read in the other page.. someone ask for a request... TOOOOOOO BAAAAAD... this is not a thread for requests.. you had the last year to ask requests for this script.. go to the official website for further support.

Endurer
11-24-2007, 05:00 PM
It's far more feature rich than I expected it to be. Great job guys.

AmbitiousOne
11-25-2007, 03:41 AM
Are we going to have to upgrade to 3.7 to ensure that our forums are not hackable ? or vulnerable to some vulnerability? Particularly RSS feed which for some reason has been the reason for many 3.6.x updates.

I rather not upgrade right now.

TvForce
11-25-2007, 03:47 AM
awesome cant wait :D any beta we can use now ?

Freesteyelz
11-25-2007, 04:32 AM
I thought they might finally have put my most popular mod "out of business", given how many forums seem to use it these days - but it looks like I'll be doing a 3.7 version :)


You'd think since it's a popular mod. Personally it would have been nice if they had adopted your Who's Read a Thread. Maybe in the 4.0 release they'll add more functionality to the Who's Online or Statistics code.

Tinh.Nhi
11-25-2007, 06:59 AM
exellent

Zweeper
11-25-2007, 07:03 AM
looks very nice! wow! this is what im waited for!

TosaInu
11-25-2007, 08:46 AM
We'll wait and see then. This version looks nice.

maidos
11-25-2007, 09:53 AM
hm viewing the user profile is awfully similar to ipb version

RvG2
11-25-2007, 10:26 AM
hm viewing the user profile is awfully similar to ipb version

could be... but I love the way vB 3.7 introduced their profile system. :) and I am sure it's FASTER than IPB. :rolleyes:

delphi77
11-25-2007, 01:07 PM
Look nice ! Can't wait ! :)

nexialys
11-25-2007, 04:06 PM
hm viewing the user profile is awfully similar to ipb version

the difference is that the vBulletin one is hooked to death so you can add a LOAD of things in it without breaking your style... and you can rebuild the entire design with CSS and simple template edits on vB... rethink it entirely for IPB!

sensimilla
11-25-2007, 05:23 PM
gimme gimme gimme... come to daddy 3.7 :p

kiril_cvetkov
11-25-2007, 07:54 PM
After 1 hour :P we will see the mericle

SemperFideles
11-25-2007, 10:45 PM
I wonder if the new Tags feature is going to read existing tags from the Tags Modification or I'll have to start from scratch.

Lizard King
11-26-2007, 08:50 AM
You can request importer by a support ticket at vbulletin.com or replying to http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=249717

readjono
11-26-2007, 01:21 PM
Is it Monday in the world of vBulletin yet?

EnIgMa1234
11-26-2007, 02:24 PM
They are upgrading now :D

All the waiting is about to pay off :p

silvermerc
11-26-2007, 02:25 PM
I want a new AdminCP layout :(
I dont want to have to wait till 4.0
How long would that take?

Gray Matter
11-26-2007, 02:33 PM
I want a new AdminCP layout :(
I dont want to have to wait till 4.0
How long would that take?
You're going to have to wait until 4.0 for that, sorry.

Shaliza
11-26-2007, 02:43 PM
*rubs hands together*

I can't wait to see the upgrade. Looks like I won't be needing a social network-like hack anymore. The updates are exactly what I wanted.

meissenation
11-26-2007, 02:47 PM
darn, i saw the announcement late and now their site's down while they do the upgrade. won't see it until later today i suppose

ragtek
11-26-2007, 02:58 PM
I want a new AdminCP layout :(
I dont want to have to wait till 4.0
How long would that take?
make your own^^:D

Wayne Luke
11-26-2007, 03:08 PM
make your own^^:D
While you can change the colors and images, it is very hard to make your own ACP.

MR.BOSS
11-26-2007, 03:09 PM
How many hours left so we can see and download the upgrade! thanks

Ohiosweetheart
11-26-2007, 03:10 PM
yippee I can't wait!

Wayne Luke
11-26-2007, 03:13 PM
How many hours left so we can see and download the upgrade! thanks
You won't be able to download 3.7.0 today. We are just upgrading vBulletin.com's forums as part of the testing process before an open beta starts in the future.

Ohiosweetheart
11-26-2007, 03:16 PM
it's gonne be funnnnnnnn... what a nice b'day gift! woooo...

TheMilkCarton
11-26-2007, 03:19 PM
darn, i saw the announcement late and now their site's down while they do the upgrade. won't see it until later today i suppose

I've attached a ZIP with two PNG files of the announcement thread (Kier made multiple posts).

I had it open in tabs, and have a screencap extension for Firefox so it wasn't that hard. :)

Edit:
LOL, I guess you may have seen the full announcement (don't know what "late" means exactly)... but then I guess I've uploaded it for anyone else who is too impatient and haven't seen the announcement yet. :)

x YNWA x
11-26-2007, 03:26 PM
link not working?

Shanj
11-26-2007, 03:34 PM
KKK The vbulletin.com forum is now dusplaying this message

Sorry, we've had to close the forums temporarily while we upgrade to 3.7

It is Monday 17.30 GMT

Wayne Luke
11-26-2007, 04:04 PM
It's up now.

Freesteyelz
11-26-2007, 04:06 PM
Sweet.

Shaliza
11-26-2007, 04:06 PM
I love it! Ha, is there anyone else who won't be needing certain hacks now?

Nice job vB Team!

B_Pages
11-26-2007, 04:15 PM
VB guys this is awesome - thnx so much!

If anyone wants to be hired to upgrade my site PM me please

xjuliox
11-26-2007, 04:31 PM
Can't wait to start using it :)

wtrk
11-26-2007, 05:22 PM
3.7.0 looks pretty neat. its got a lot of features that look like they have a lot of potential. im not sure if i will upgrade to it, im pretty happy with my forum the way it is. but i will for sure upgrade to vb 4.0.0 whenever that comes out.

Shanj
11-26-2007, 05:41 PM
Last minute problems I guess but user customisation is not currently enabled, nor the interesting tags on posts that mark them as QUESTION/ ANSWER/ JOKE! etc

The gallery is good except you can put captions on pics but they don't display.

Some are complaining Blog integration not good.

I guess it's early days. They are concentrating on basic bugs right now not the cosmetics.

baghdad4ever
11-26-2007, 07:00 PM
is the 3.6.x hacks work on it or not????????

LoreleiWeb
11-26-2007, 07:14 PM
It looks great, I really can't wait to upgrade, only I hope some mods I use and arcade will all be compatible with the latest version..

ChU v2
11-26-2007, 08:07 PM
I thought I read it was being released today??

Shanj
11-26-2007, 08:24 PM
No not released. It's being demo'ed on vbulletin.com
Tweaks n bugs
Then released when it's working reasonably well

It's good but it does have a few bits missing.

Wayne Luke
11-26-2007, 08:46 PM
is the 3.6.x hacks work on it or not????????
You will have to test each individual hack, product or plugin you install to make sure it is still compatible. This is specifically why we allow each license to have a test installation.

TigerWare
11-26-2007, 09:07 PM
This is specifically why we allow each license to have a test installation.

Wha? You mean nobody tests on their live site no more... tsk tsk tsk, the youth of today needs to take some risks!

Mwahaha JK. New version looks great, though I'm not keen on all that mamby pamby social networking guff... oh well... chaff... wheat... chaff... wheat... good for sales though.

Great looking job all round. :up:

G0F0RBR0KE
11-27-2007, 12:59 AM
Going to install now :) (if it's release)

pjan
11-27-2007, 02:16 AM
Awesome.Congratulations to all VB team member for their superb work. I can't wait to see this new VB in action.:D

Lizard King
11-27-2007, 08:51 AM
It lacks tons of things.

Tag system is terrible and if it stays like this i'll continue using zoints on my site.

Social group lacks tons of features , such as own hidden forum , own blog , events , invite members , mass pm users etc... ( just compare groups with facebook groups )

Profile - blog integration is terrible and it needs a lot of improvement

Everything is again within tables and tons of inline styles all around

Profiles lacks users own posts and users created threads ( compare with IPB )

PoetJA-1975
11-27-2007, 09:29 AM
Compared with ipb - vBulletin is tons better, not only for Forum Administrator but for the end user as well - I think ipb is a really sloppy forum application - it just seems to have a few ajax modifications implemented, but it's not quite as feature-rich as vB in my opinion. And of course you can always hack your board to take out the inline tables - of course your current style shows that you've done that already, but who's to say that's better than the 3.7 release (which I personally - along with an entire Community of board owners think is FABULOUS) :)

Jacquii.

btw - what IS your Forum about anyway? Just curious as I see Poe, Woolf & Ginsberg have a nice premiere spot on your homepage = interesting - I just don't read the language....

Lizard King
11-27-2007, 09:37 AM
Compared with ipb - vBulletin is tons better, not only for Forum Administrator but for the end user as well - I think ipb is a really sloppy forum application - it just seems to have a few ajax modifications implemented, but it's not quite as feature-rich as vB in my opinion. And of course you can always hack your board to take out the inline tables - of course your current style shows that you've done that already, but who's to say that's better than the 3.7 release (which I personally - along with an entire Community of board owners think is FABULOUS) :)

Jacquii.

btw - what IS your Forum about anyway? Just curious as I see Poe, Woolf & Ginsberg have a nice premiere spot on your homepage = interesting - I just don't read the language....
It is obvious that you donot understand what you read at all.

The only thing i compared vBulletin and Ipb is the profile options. You probably donot know about Ipb profiles thats why go and check them. If we are talking about Social Networking Users profiles must be the main focus and their profile must show their contribution to site. Thats why Blog integration must develop , thats why with a tab user created threads , users posts must be integrated.

My site is about literature , philosophy , rock and metal music , the language is turkish

no mods
11-27-2007, 09:54 AM
Just reading through the list of new things coming I see I will be uninstalling some mods. Cant wait, looks great.

crkgb
11-27-2007, 12:12 PM
Events are one of the most underestimated but absolutely essential part of the contemporary SN community. People are trying to relate their online life to a real one. Facebook is a living proof of that. I actually am surprised they are the only ones who came up to this. ))

Wayne Luke
11-27-2007, 04:30 PM
Profile - blog integration is terrible and it needs a lot of improvement

Blog integration hasn't even been implemented yet. That tab is just a place holder. The blog addon has to be updated to handle integration, it isn't controlled by vBulletin. ;)

readjono
11-27-2007, 04:36 PM
I had presumed we'd get our hands on it on Monday. How long does it usually take.

Wayne Luke
11-27-2007, 06:09 PM
I had presumed we'd get our hands on it on Monday. How long does it usually take.
Depends on what is found in a live environment.

Alphawolf83
11-27-2007, 07:07 PM
Why do some of you think some mods have to be re-written for vb3.7? Seems to me that there are not much changes but many additions like new hooks etc, but they wont prevent the existing mods from working, eh? :confused:

Paul M
11-27-2007, 08:02 PM
I would expect most mods to work in 3.7 - but a lot should be rewritten - either to make use of new hooks, or in many cases to make use of template hooks.

Pathfinder
11-27-2007, 08:48 PM
Many useful new features, some like the groups are really awesome for social networking ;)

LouiseWilson
11-27-2007, 08:48 PM
looks good
i've recently moved over from IPB with the import impex install and it works a treat , going to set up a test board to make sure all installs ok :)

PoetJA-1975
11-27-2007, 09:51 PM
It is obvious that you donot understand what you read at all.

The only thing i compared vBulletin and Ipb is the profile options. You probably donot know about Ipb profiles thats why go and check them. If we are talking about Social Networking Users profiles must be the main focus and their profile must show their contribution to site. Thats why Blog integration must develop , thats why with a tab user created threads , users posts must be integrated.

My site is about literature , philosophy , rock and metal music , the language is turkish

Aw! What an @SS - As a forum Administrator and Member of many many forums using IPB software I surely do know what an IPB profile looks like.

Jacquii.

mIRCnet
11-28-2007, 04:49 AM
Nice additions and features in this version, but I am asking does it load the server ??

lostgirl815
11-28-2007, 06:05 AM
so, 75% of the hacks released for 3.6 on vb.org are now integrated into 3.7... (now, where are the credits for the ideas ?!)


Where indeed? A lot of those features were deja-vu.

I will wait for the bugs to be worked out before upgrading.



Good point, and it saves me from having to make a decision anytime soon.

so..Continues using 3.6.x with fully great mods and support or try this totally new version 3.7.x ?

I had the same question for myself when VBB updated 3.5.x to 3.6.x...


I upgraded to 3.6 for one reason only: full PM content in the email notifications of PMs. But as it turned out, multi-quote was more useful than I thought it would be, and those two things made up for the overall headache.

No feature is jumping out at me with this one, though. I don't run a giant board with lots of spammers and faux Mods trying to illegally edit posts, and I don't think anyone gives two damns about having a snazzy profile. And since it's a small board I would rather that people actually posted on the board, not chitchat in their profiles.

Would that whole word-cloud, social-networking deal help bring in new members? Then it might be worth it, even though word clouds annoy the hell out of me. Word Clutter would be a better name for it.

scarex80
11-28-2007, 07:49 AM
Only a question, and I apologize if I wrong section.
Does 3.7 release of vBulletin support multiple options vbCode?

Shaliza
11-28-2007, 07:56 AM
I don't get why people are complaining about the social group. I would rather see vB NOT get clogged up. If you want all the extra stuff, download a mod. Why are you trying to act like vB is myspace?

s0lidgr0und
11-28-2007, 08:44 AM
How long do these upgrades typically stay in beta?

Marco van Herwaarden
11-28-2007, 08:49 AM
That depends on how things are running. Public beta will probably not start until all found issues on the vB.com test run are resolved.

s0lidgr0und
11-28-2007, 08:56 AM
Cool.

Thank you.

Phooey
11-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Wow, that looks great. I can't wait!

Shanj
11-28-2007, 04:46 PM
I want a new AdminCP layout :(
I dont want to have to wait till 4.0
How long would that take?

Until 4.0 there is this mod
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=161988
You can select your most used links and create a kind of Admin Favorites I think.

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I don't get why people are complaining about the social group. I would rather see vB NOT get clogged up. If you want all the extra stuff, download a mod. Why are you trying to act like vB is myspace?

The coding is different. Added mods work through the database so they use more system resouyrces. Also every time you upgrade you gotta redo them.
Core code is faster, more closely integrated, and needs less tweaking on upgrades.

The debate on SNofluffies (social Networking) versus FPs (ForumPurists) rages on but essentially VB has adopted SN for sound business reasons. The majority want it.

gbml4u
11-29-2007, 11:17 AM
Powered by vBulletin? Version 3.7.0 Beta 1
Copyright ?2000 - 2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

I found some thing in vbulletin.com/forum :)

So maybe its comming soon :)

Qwest
11-29-2007, 02:49 PM
User Picture Galleries and Lightbox implementation look great.
I've always shyed away from lightbox due to the well kept secret that you can get a LOT of traffic from google image search alone!

Wayne Luke
11-29-2007, 05:27 PM
I've always shyed away from lightbox due to the well kept secret that you can get a LOT of traffic from google image search alone!
The lightbox shouldn't interfere with that. Since Googlebot doesn't process HTML and vBulletin recognizes this, then it will be presented with a standard link to the image to follow.

nexialys
11-29-2007, 06:22 PM
I found some thing in vbulletin.com/forum :)

So maybe its comming soon :)

This was announced days ago, if you read the proper announcements... They are testing it, doesn't mean it will be released soon...


ok, stupidly, we can say that for 3.5 and 3.6, the release of the first RC were 2 or 3 weeks after the first public tests... and RCs are not for Production Sites... you have to take care of what you're doing with RCs!

CMGU
11-29-2007, 08:10 PM
wowww 3.7.0 i waiting

zeusdesign
11-29-2007, 08:48 PM
i'm waiting 3.7 and this style :P

Symmetrical?
11-29-2007, 09:36 PM
i'm waiting 3.7 and this style :P

we are waiting this style along time :)

yes, we are wating 3.7.0

w33tab1x
11-30-2007, 04:22 PM
These new features defaintly look awsome :D can't wait to see them in a public release action :D

Wayne Luke
11-30-2007, 08:36 PM
In case you haven't been to vBulletin.com yet, you can now customize your profile there. A lot of people are making their match the theme of their forums.

ThomasR
12-01-2007, 05:16 AM
Still no support for thread thumbnails based on the attachements of the first post (with user choice for which thumbnailto display in the thread list)?
A ot of boards are related to graphics and this kind of improvments is a must have.
I already use a plugin for that, but it's incomplete and not always up to date.

For the thread prefixe, will it be compatible with the current plugin available for that? To be sure that the transition willbe smooth? :)

Anyway, I'm waiting to test it on my test forum!

Edit: answer page 5 for the thread prefixes :)

VbTeam: you should take a look at the cgtalk.com (forums.cgsociety.org; sa?e website) and their "3D still" section (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=132) : when you create a new thread, you enter your image, comments, title, etc and it create a first new post with a ful size image and a thread thumbnail. I don't ask for a such advanced custom code like cgtalk one, but something similar would be great :)

I'm waiting to see all the non announced features, because expect some "a la mode" features, I don't see a lot of new features which makes me hardly waiting vb 3.7 :)

tscargo
12-03-2007, 03:34 PM
I would love to know when we expect the first public beta release to become available.
I am planning to use vB for a new site/project, and would love to start out with 3.7 (beta) right away, but can't wait until the end of the month to get started....

Taco

Ohiosweetheart
12-04-2007, 03:04 AM
I really wouldn't expect it before the end of the month. That's just my guess.

Kungfu
12-04-2007, 02:22 PM
looks way cool, i cant wait for it. There are lots of features in there that ive wanted to implement, but now that it will be come standard there will be no reason for me not too. Lots of cool things that were implemented too that i have installed as modifications.

mm mods 2k6
12-04-2007, 09:51 PM
when is it coming out

Marco van Herwaarden
12-05-2007, 05:14 AM
Yes

Brad Felmey
12-05-2007, 02:39 PM
Yet-another product update announcement with no ACLs. :(

Rat1972
12-05-2007, 03:39 PM
release the damn thing ;)

deezelpope
12-05-2007, 03:59 PM
That's why it's called a "teaser"! :D

RvG2
12-05-2007, 04:08 PM
last night I have dreamt of it :)

Wayne Luke
12-05-2007, 04:38 PM
Yet-another product update announcement with no ACLs. :(


What is an ACL?

Paul M
12-05-2007, 05:10 PM
Access Control List

(afaik)

Wayne Luke
12-05-2007, 05:22 PM
That is what I thought and was trying to make sure. You never really know with Acronyms.

And no... Access Control Lists would not happen in a minor version or feature release version like 3.7.0. Implementing them would probably require a rewrite of the permissions system in vBulletin. That wouldn't happen until a Major release version, if it even does.

christian8a
12-06-2007, 06:59 PM
are we specting for it in december at least or more? I actually was working on redesigning the memberinfo template, now I see lots of stuff that I actually added in the 3.6.8 damn lol I better wait but I need to release my site very soon, any toughts on this :confused:

Rat1972
12-06-2007, 07:27 PM
It will be released this month, pretty sure about that.

Paul M
12-06-2007, 08:08 PM
The only thing likely this month is a beta, and you shouldn't really run that on a live site.

mjname
12-06-2007, 10:50 PM
Is there a way to get on the beta release list?

Ohiosweetheart
12-07-2007, 02:05 AM
The beta will most likely be released to all customers.

Shanj
12-07-2007, 08:20 PM
Just to say that there are major things lacking in the vb 3.7 as previewed on vb.com currently.
I've been going through everything thoroughly and discussing what's needed.

This is just a small note to say this is REALLY going to need mods in order to work halfway decently. So thank heavens for vb.org

Better have a 3.7 section all ready to activate the day the 3.7beta is released. The requests will be pouring in! For updates on current mods but also for specific ones to patch up 3.7's naked bits.

In fact the mods over there are CONTINUALLY teling us to just get mods to make it work!

Paul M
12-07-2007, 09:17 PM
Is there a way to get on the beta release list?
There is no list.

There is generally a staff preview first, followed by a public beta some unspecified period later (depending on how much of it the staff break ;)).

Better have a 3.7 section all ready to activate the day the 3.7beta is released. The requests will be pouring in! For updates on current mods but also for specific ones to patch up 3.7's naked bits.

There will be a 3.7 beta section here, but it's unlikely to be on the day it's publicly released as we are generally not told in advance. Adding a new section requires quite a few backend changes here.

Shanj
12-08-2007, 12:15 AM
What I meant was it would be wise to prepare a forum, but keep it invisible. Then make it visible fast when the release arrives.

mindcry
12-12-2007, 01:37 PM
What I meant was it would be wise to prepare a forum, but keep it invisible. Then make it visible fast when the release arrives.
because creating a new forum takes soooo long.

Jafo232
12-12-2007, 04:42 PM
Although they did give anti-spam measures a bit of attention, I wish they would have gone farther and tried to incorporate something like my Akismet (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=163742) hack where spam could be checked against a known database. The feature cuts spam down to almost nothing on my boards. Surely this could be done better natively, instead of my hack.

Ahh well.. Maybe 4.0...

Paul M
12-12-2007, 07:13 PM
because creating a new forum takes soooo long.

There is a lot more involved here than just creating a new forum. Since you have no idea, I suggest you keep any further sarcastic comments to yourself.