Graphic Requests area?

[Shelley_c]

Whatever happened to the graphics Requests area? I'm quite sure (Pre brad era) that there was a graphics requests area here where members who lack the ability to request images from here.

Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea in giving such an area the chance instead of graphic requests cluttering the Design and Graphics Discussions area and possibly implementing Graphic Requests subforum to Design and Graphics Discussions. Personally, I think it would be quite populour and enduce more interactivity between the advanced graphic members and members who lack the ability to design.

[no mods]

Sounds like a good idea two me.

[Michael Biddle]

same. but not me two. more like me too ;)

[Dream]

:rolleyes:

Yes I'd like this too, I'm thinking of asking for some rank images, and maybe offer a 10 bucks donation for it.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

:rolleyes:

Yes I'd like this too, I'm thinking of asking for some rank images, and maybe offer a 10 bucks donation for it.
Requests For Paid Services (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=30)

[ChrisLM2001]

What's the purpose of having a styles section, if the request for styles sets aren't there? I find that I spend more time at the coder's section about style requests, than in it's proper section (which is basically a place to upload ready-made icons/styles).

XHTML/CSS edits really do need to be in the styles section, too. Scripting is the coders' domain; elements and style, designers.

[G0F0RBR0KE]

I agree with this idea 10x!

[Shelley_c]

I think this would be a great opportunity for the community for staff to give back the graphic requests (as a dedicated area) and I'm sure there are many designers who would be willing to take on free requests aswell as many members who would benefit.

I have a set of guidelines and a pixel guide which I wrote/designed that would help as a sticky topic (or maybe a staff member can revise it if needed) and paste it under their name but your more than welcome if this thread is remotely being entertained.

When requesting an image, please indicate whether it's a Signature, Avatar, board logo etc. Please use the following guidelines to make it easier for the graphic designer. Following the guidelines set forth ensures that your request is filled quickly and saving the staff from locking/deleting topics which don't conform to the rules. We ask that you also refrain yourself from creating any threads requesting any graphics from the Graphic Database.

NOTE!! Your first post in this section should contain the Request Guidelines (shown below)

* Type of Image: (Logo, Avatar, Banner)
* Text on image:
* Specific Images: (links must be supplied !)
* Colour Scheme:
* Size (in pixels):
* Animations:
* Things to avoid: (what you don't want in your image)


Pixel Size Template

We are aware that not everybody knows what pixels are, or what size they actually want. We have provided a Pixel Size Template (shown Below) which will help you in deciding what size you would like that Image to be.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2007/10/2.gif


NOTE!! Because the graphic request area is not officially a vbulletin.org service, staff are not obligated to fill, or take on requests. The graphic request area is community driven, which means members helping members. However, this doesn't mean a staff member won't help from time to time, it all depends whether they have higher priorities and/or other obligations.

On a final note, We ask that you conform to the guidelines set forth. Complying with the rules will give your request a higher chance of being filled by the designer. However, ignoring the guidelines or posts lacking in information will result in your post being ignored locked and/or deleted.

[Paul M]

Just to be clear here, you are talking about a forum similar to the "Modification not available" forum, but for style/graphic requests ?

[Shelley_c]

No. I am referring to an area for anyone to request images (mainly for their vbulletin boards) which is a free requesting area. This area would not be for requesting images that are found in the vbulletin.org database because the images located in that area are pre-made. requests here would be for images that could range from forum icons to logos, signatures and so forth. Or maybe an image that someone specifically wants to complement a certain style.

For example, I don't like a set of buttons that a styler implemented on a style so I would post a request (all free) for a set of buttons whilst filling out all the info so someone can come along and fill my request.

I suppose you could expand this to style requests though I doubt many people will have the time to create full blown styles and I doubt this would work out in the long term. Keep it simple, with image requests were members can request for images like buttons, icons signatures etc and before long the area will become very populour, self sustaining and require minimal moderation by the staff because I feel that many designers would be happy to help out and fill requests.

edit; At this time members cannot post for requests in the image database (and I feel they never should) because this is primarly a release area and people basically get what contributors post.

[cheat-master30]

No. I am referring to an area for anyone to request images (mainly for their vbulletin boards) which is a free requesting area. This area would not be for requesting images that are found in the vbulletin.org database because the images located in that area are pre-made. requests here would be for images that could range from forum icons to logos, signatures and so forth. Or maybe an image that someone specifically wants to complement a certain style.

For example, I don't like a set of buttons that a styler implemented on a style so I would post a request (all free) for a set of buttons whilst filling out all the info so someone can come along and fill my request.

I suppose you could expand this to style requests though I doubt many people will have the time to create full blown styles and I doubt this would work out in the long term. Keep it simple, with image requests were members can request for images like buttons, icons signatures etc and before long the area will become very populour, self sustaining and require minimal moderation by the staff because I feel that many designers would be happy to help out and fill requests.

edit; At this time members cannot post for requests in the image database (and I feel they never should) because this is primarly a release area and people basically get what contributors post.

I think that's what he said. Modification Not Available is for free modification requests and ideas... and I'm assuming this would be for free image requests and ideas. Except maybe more like a mix of the modification not available forum and the requests for paid services forum.

[ChrisLM2001]

For example, I don't like a set of buttons that a styler implemented on a style so I would post a request (all free) for a set of buttons whilst filling out all the info so someone can come along and fill my request.

I suppose you could expand this to style requests though I doubt many people will have the time to create full blown styles and I doubt this would work out in the long term.

Shelley, even a icon/button free forum will die quickly, because it's difficult to get even paid requests fulfilled. And there will be a plethora of free requests, so many that it'll be filled with hundreds of unanswered threads -- as you know folks will jump on a free anything. Then designers will be miffed in losing business.

I can see a paid requests forum surviving, but a "Plz do me a set of 3D glass buttons for 3 colors and styles...btw, I'm picky" forum will swamp even the good intentioned. Burn out will ensue, and there's not that many designers hanging out here. :(

[Dream]

Requests For Paid Services (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=30)

Do people even scratch themselves for 10 bucks on that forum? Anyway thanks for reminding me.

A free graphics requests area still could be nice though. But this is just a suggestion, don't treat me rudely because of it.

[ChrisLM2001]

A free graphics requests area still could be nice though. But this is just a suggestion, don't treat me rudely because of it.

If it's design related, being rude to designers is policy with the culture of vBulletin. The real reason there's not many designers around, they do their best to keep them away with 10001 put downs and excuses. It's why I'm v-e-r-y abrasive in these topics, knowing the reaction it'll bring from experience (not that I'm truly abrasive). Only way to survive the onslaught, so I put on my USMC cover and wait with my trusty M14 for snipers.

Game forums of little known games have a larger graphics/design communities, because the attitude top/down is to encourage it (it benefits the game and growth). That's not the case with vBulletin. It's coders rule...and designers, don't worry your pretty little heads about it deal (basically what that vB dev told me last night about web standards).

That's the truth, why any change to help the design community will meet resistance and little help.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

This suggestion is currently under discussion by the Staff. Once we have come to a decission it will be posted here.

@ChrisLM2001
If your goal is to find every little thing you can complain about and immediate create a post on such a topic complaining how bad everything is: Continue how you are doing now.

If your goal is to improve things that are not optimal (yet) in your view, you might rethink your way of bringing such things under the attention.

[ChrisLM2001]

My goal is to work with vBulletin in a professional manner. That means to be treated professionally, and to have a product that aims to be professional. I wouldn't be here with vBulletin if I didn't like the product (who would like wasting their time stating the obvious?). To get to that point on the design side is to remind staff it's not just code that runs a forum, and point out the problems so it can be fixed. The design side needs "luving", too.

The posting combatness I have is due, from experience, in how staff reacts to design suggestions. Simple requests turn into morass of personal attacks and just plain rude commentary. I have v-e-r-y thick skin, so it doesn't phase me, but to others it can (most of the design community here are kids and very sensitive in proving themselves and building their portfolios). The same community that wants to create, and be proud of their creations with the vBulletin community, not be told to stand in their little corner and be good little dumb retards in their afterthought style corner.

The kids and adults see all this side sniping and feel the attitudes, Marco. They also can feel the status quo that died 5 years ago in other venues. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to sense the attitudes toward designers are at the least insulting here, bordering on the obnoxious.

If staff can't see that, maybe it's time that they understand why there's over 2,000 coders and less than 800 designers here -- and a zillion design questions on how to do this or that, that go unanswered, because the community ratio is so lopsided.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

You are totally wrong in your assumption that our staff treat designers different then coders (or "regular" members).

Also your "combatting" style of posting is most likely to give the opposite result as what you are intending. The result will be most likely (in the most positive case) be that staff just ignores and skips over your posts.

[ChrisLM2001]

They treat them differently, very differently, like treating designers not seriously. How many designers have asked in 3 years for web standard templates/design (nope, I'm not the only one, and I came quite late)? The vBCSS project (after I was banned even)? What was the reaction each and every time?

Marco, staff already overlooks design requests -- Eric Meyers could come in and post why this tabled layout would need to go the way of the Dodo, and they'd ignore or would argue against it. If some coding guru came around with a nifty idea, they'd be tripping over themselves to get the code implimented like yesterday (as the AJAX/plugins issue showed by example -- couldn't let Matt get that coding leg up).

Look what happened to vbulletin-templates? The website, with all the restrictions it had that designers could not modify code in any shape or size, just templates? Remember?

Very real oil and water, when we need to mix cocktails together. :)

[Paul M]

What exactly do you mean by "Staff already overlooks design requests" ?

[Marco van Herwaarden]

They treat them differently, very differently, like treating designers not seriously. How many designers have asked in 3 years for web standard templates/design (nope, I'm not the only one, and I came quite late)? The vBCSS project (after I was banned even)? What was the reaction each and every time?

Marco, staff already overlooks design requests -- Eric Meyers could come in and post why this tabled layout would need to go the way of the Dodo, and they'd ignore or would argue against it. If some coding guru came around with a nifty idea, they'd be tripping over themselves to get the code implimented like yesterday (as the AJAX/plugins issue showed by example -- couldn't let Matt get that coding leg up).

Look what happened to vbulletin-templates? The website, with all the restrictions it had that designers could not modify code in any shape or size, just templates? Remember?

Very real oil and water, when we need to mix cocktails together. :)I am sorry but i fail to see what all this got to do with vBulletin.org staff ignoring designers.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

New forum added: Style and Graphics Requests (Unpaid) (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=226)

[ChrisLM2001]

What exactly do you mean by "Staff already overlooks design requests" ?

Sums up THIS design request for years...

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136711&highlight=tableless&page=8

BTW, where did the vBCSS project go?

[Marco van Herwaarden]

You are linking to a thread on vB.com (as was the vBCSS project started there IIRC).

So again my question: What does this have to do with vB.org Staff and designers.

[Dream]

I'm receiving this message when trying to post there


Please select an appropriate thread prefix from the drop down list beside the subject field.But there is no thread prefix box

[Shelley_c]

Thankyou for the consideration of this request/suggestion and I can only hope that the staff will come to the right decision.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I'm receiving this message when trying to post there

Please select an appropriate thread prefix from the drop down list beside the subject field.But there is no thread prefix box
Will look into this.

Edit: This should be solved now

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Thankyou for the consideration of this request/suggestion and I can only hope that the staff will come to the right decision.
See a few posts back: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1371080&postcount=21

[Dream]

Thanks Marco, it's working now.

[Chris M]

Only way to survive the onslaught, so I put on my USMC cover and wait with my trusty M14 for snipers.
I see your M14, and raise you a MEC SVD single shot to the head ;)

Chris

[Michael Biddle]

I see your M14, and raise you a MEC SVD single shot to the head ;)

Chris

Is it just me, or are these bf2 related?

[Chris M]

I don't know what you mean... Crouch, prone, hand grenade, knife, MEDIC :)

Chris

[Michael Biddle]

What rank?

[ChrisLM2001]

You are linking to a thread on vB.com (as was the vBCSS project started there IIRC).

So again my question: What does this have to do with vB.org Staff and designers.

You asked for an example, and I gave it.

Why are you being so specific now?

--------------- Added 1193680130 at 1193680130 ---------------

Is it just me, or are these bf2 related?

Maybe to others, but not to me. Was a WM (and I loved the M14 more than the M16), as I like the .45 over the puny 9mm. ;)

[Marco van Herwaarden]

You asked for an example, and I gave it.

Why are you being so specific now?
Why i am specific? Not that i really understand what you mean by that, but until now you have only posted accusations about our staff, without backing that up.

You post that vB.org staff is biased against designers, and to backup that up you post links to thread on a different forum. Why do you think vB.org staff is responsible for what happens or is posted on other websites?

Seems i have to repeat my question:
What does this have to do with vB.org Staff and designers.

PS I never asked for examples, that was Paul

[Paul M]

PS I never asked for examples, that was Paul

And I'm still waiting........

[Shelley_c]

Before this thread is closed, I thought I would mention that it would be a good idea to add the pixel template I posted earlier in princetons guidelines in the graphic requests?

[Dream]

I didn't get it too well what's that for, but you can post it there and ask a moderator to pin it, or else they can move it elsewhere.

[Paul M]

It will get copied over at some point.

[ChrisLM2001]

Why i am specific? Not that i really understand what you mean by that, but until now you have only posted accusations about our staff, without backing that up.

Because, it's not I that ran with the ball of...vbulletin.com vs. vbulletin.org, you and Paul are going that tangent route.

Staff is staff to me, as you all answer to Jelsoft, and post on each forum accordingly. And that's where the buck, stops. None of this "official" and "unofficial" junk.

Been there, done that.

[Chris M]

Excuse me a minute...

I don't answer to anybody actually :) I'm a volunteer staff member of vBulletin.org, not any other Jelsoft related or owned website :)

I don't get paid or instructed to do anything by anyone on this site, I do so of my own free will...

Regardless of any previous grievances you may have with some members of Staff from this forum, don't generalise... I'm not Paul, Marco or Danny, nor am I davidw or calorie, Kirk Y or Dan etc etc... I'm Chris M, my own free speaking person, and while some people may not like me, I'm not here to be liked; I'm here to do a job, and sometimes people forget that :)

As for bias against designers? Hah... I'm a coder with absolutely zero graphical talent... I love Designers :) They can do something that I cannot, they can create a layout and image set that I can only imagine... I've just proven your theory wrong :p

And as for rank, I'm a lowly Master Sergeant, but I'm deadly with an M24 or SVD ;)

Chris

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Because, it's not I that ran with the ball of...vbulletin.com vs. vbulletin.org, you and Paul are going that tangent route.

Staff is staff to me, as you all answer to Jelsoft, and post on each forum accordingly. And that's where the buck, stops. None of this "official" and "unofficial" junk.

Been there, done that.
Like this you are only making a joke of your own comments. How do you think anyone can take you serious like this?

vBulletin.com and vBulletin.org are 2 different websites, with (mostly) different staff and with different topics. You can not come here complaining about vBulletin.org and then when asked show threads on another site (vbulletin.com).

If you have any serious suggestions about this website, feel free to post about it (in a constructive way). Otherwise please don't post complaints in such a way that a normal member reading get the wrong impression.

If you have any suggestions/complaints about vBulletin or vBulletin.com, then please post there.

[Paul M]

Because, it's not I that ran with the ball of...vbulletin.com vs. vbulletin.org, you and Paul are going that tangent route.

The only person going off on a tangent is you. Check the URL, this is vbulletin.org, not vbulletin.com, two different websites.

Staff is staff to me, as you all answer to Jelsoft, and post on each forum accordingly. And that's where the buck, stops. None of this "official" and "unofficial" junk.


Complete tosh I'm afraid. I am neither on the Staff of vbulletin.com, nor am I employed by Jelsoft. I represent nothing official for either.

[MRGTB]

Thats does seem to be the case, although I've seen quite a few paid requests posted her for logo's in the past.

[Freesteyelz]

As for bias against designers? Hah... I'm a coder with absolutely zero graphical talent... I love Designers :)

Don't forget us "Developers" too. Even if we're amateur at that. :D

[Analogpoint]

Complete tosh I'm afraid. I am neither on the Staff of vbulletin.com, nor am I employed by Jelsoft. I represent nothing official for either.

Interesting. I would have thought Jelsoft would run their official modifications site with at least a paid admin ...

And on a completely different note, this is concerning communication. I think the average member here, when they see the "official" "V" avatar, or they see someone is an administrator here, then they assume that the poster is a (paid) Jelsoft employee, and officially representing the company. I actually did think you, Paul, being the admin, were an employee of Jelsoft. Maybe for the sake of communication (which includes what others percieve), there should be a secondary title/note in the avatar specifying that the member is a vBulletin.org volunteer or something to that effect, and is only expressing their opinion, and it has nothing to do with Jelsoft policy.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

About vBulletin.org (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/info.php?do=about) ;)

All our staff are volunteers, i am the only Jelsoft representative in the board administration.

[Analogpoint]

About vBulletin.org (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/info.php?do=about) ;)

All our staff are volunteers, i am the only Jelsoft representative in the board administration.

That's fine. I just think that for the sake of good communication, it should be more prominent, as in the postbit somewhere.

[MRGTB]

About vBulletin.org (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/info.php?do=about) ;)

All our staff are volunteers, i am the only Jelsoft representative in the board administration.


But even that is confusing. Because you carry the title of "vBulletin.org Coordinator". Now I'm not sure if that is supposed to be a higher rank than Admin or not. If not it seems strange to me that Paul as a volunteer is site admin, while you carry a lesser rank as a Jelsoft Employee.

You would have thought as a employee of Jelsoft, you'd be the top ranking staff member here.

[Shelley_c]

Getting back on topic (Unsure whether this has been implemented) but i think it would be a good idea if a prefix was added [Filled] or [Complete] for threads which have been filled. when the request has been filled the threadstarter can select the option which signals that the request has been completed and he/she is happy with it.

I suppose this could be extended to the request hack area.

[Dream]

Having a "Volunteer Staff" on titles would be a nice idea.

[Chris M]

That's fine. I just think that for the sake of good communication, it should be more prominent, as in the postbit somewhere.
It does say "vBulletin.org Coordinator" in his title... :)
But even that is confusing. Because you carry the title of "vBulletin.org Coordinator". Now I'm not sure if that is supposed to be a higher rank than Admin or not. If not it seems strange to me that Paul as a volunteer is site admin, while you carry a lesser rank as a Jelsoft Employee.

You would have thought as a employee of Jelsoft, you'd be the top ranking staff member here.
Marco is the "Top Ranking" staff member here; He is employed by Jelsoft... Every other staff member here is a Volunteer :)

If you check the "Meet the Staff" link at the bottom, it lists every staff member here and their position :)
Or you can check out: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showgroups.php (yes it's still there, and it lists Marco as one of the "Administrators") :)
Having a "Volunteer Staff" on titles would be a nice idea.
See above; That would not help to identify any volunteer staff members because we all are with the exception of Marco :)

Chris

[Analogpoint]

It does say "vBulletin.org Coordinator" in his title... :) How am I possibly to conclude that Marco is a vBulletin employee and that every other admin/mod is an unpaid volunteer from that title? :)

Marco is the "Top Ranking" staff member here; He is employed by Jelsoft... Every other staff member here is a Volunteer :) That's the point. Most people would assume that an 'admin' would outrank a 'coordinator'. That's why I requested more clarification. :)

If you check the "Meet the Staff" link at the bottom, it lists every staff member here and their position :)
Or you can check out: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showgroups.php (yes it's still there, and it lists Marco as one of the "Administrators") :)I'd honestly be surprised if 5% of vbulletin.org users have ever visited the 'staff' page or the 'showgroups' page. The info needs to be prominent. :)

See above; That would not help to identify any volunteer staff members because we all are with the exception of Marco :) All the admins/mod here should have 'Volunteer vBulletin.org Staff' in their postbit, Marco should have 'Official Jelsoft Representative' in his postbit.

Just my $0.02. :)

[Chris M]

How am I possibly to conclude that Marco is a vBulletin employee and that every other admin/mod is an unpaid volunteer from that title? :)

That's the point. Most people would assume that an 'admin' would outrank a 'coordinator'. That's why I requested more clarification. :)

I'd honestly be surprised if 5% of vbulletin.org users have ever visited the 'staff' page or the 'showgroups' page. The info needs to be prominent. :)

All the admins/mod here should have 'Volunteer vBulletin.org Staff' in their postbit, Marco should have 'Official Jelsoft Representative' in his postbit.

Just my $0.02. :)

Firstly, you are cross-quoting to make every response of mine above seem like it was directed at your inquiry - It was not...

Secondly, I did not infer that the titles were meant to determine to the user whether the staff member is a volunteer or here in some official capacity... The only officiality differences are that vBulletin employees are just that, an employee; A volunteer staff member here is still a staff member...

Thirdly, thats a big assumption; I'm English, born and raised here, and so fluent in the language; If someone turned to me and said "Do you think an 'Admin' outranks a 'Coordinator'?", by the sheer meaning of the word 'Coordinator' you can surmise that their position is higher...

As for people visiting the staff pages; Well, I personally view the showgroups page (or equivalent if available) on every site to see who the people who are Mods and Admins, Owners etc... A little information can get you a long way ;)

Finally, those titles you suggested actually end up making determining who performs what function here to the average user more difficult; A "Site Coordinator" generally is someone in charge, who gives out jobs, analyses and discusses with staff and members about things that are open to change, and actively communicate to people through the website (thats what I personally see a Coordinator to be)... An "Official Representative" could be the Official Jelsoft Main Office Janitor, for all someone on the other end knows ;)

The other staff titles are self-explanitory :)

Chris

[Marco van Herwaarden]

vBulletin.org is mostly ran by our volunteer staff.

Our volunteer Admins make most of the decissions and do most of the (admin) work. (As our volunteer moderators do most of the moderating work).

My tasks (among others):
- Assist the staff in decission making
- Act as escalation point in case of a disagreement between staff and a member.
- Give official (Jelsoft) answers if needed.
- Protect the interest of Jelsoft whenever needed.

[Analogpoint]

Firstly, you are cross-quoting to make every response of mine above seem like it was directed at your inquiry - It was not...

Secondly, I did not infer that the titles were meant to determine to the user whether the staff member is a volunteer or here in some official capacity... The only officiality differences are that vBulletin employees are just that, an employee; A volunteer staff member here is still a staff member...

Thirdly, thats a big assumption; I'm English, born and raised here, and so fluent in the language; If someone turned to me and said "Do you think an 'Admin' outranks a 'Coordinator'?", by the sheer meaning of the word 'Coordinator' you can surmise that their position is higher...

As for people visiting the staff pages; Well, I personally view the showgroups page (or equivalent if available) on every site to see who the people who are Mods and Admins, Owners etc... A little information can get you a long way ;)

Finally, those titles you suggested actually end up making determining who performs what function here to the average user more difficult; A "Site Coordinator" generally is someone in charge, who gives out jobs, analyses and discusses with staff and members about things that are open to change, and actively communicate to people through the website (thats what I personally see a Coordinator to be)... An "Official Representative" could be the Official Jelsoft Main Office Janitor, for all someone on the other end knows ;)

The other staff titles are self-explanitory :)

Chris

OK, I'm not going to argue. I've stated my opinion in an attempt to improve things, if it's not wanted, I'll move on. :cool:

[Paul M]

How does a thread about a graphics request area become a discussion about the staff ??

As Marco has pretty much said - the day to day running and decisions are the resposibility of the three main site administrators (Danny, Joe and myself) - as the site co-ordinator, Marco also has the vbulletin "rank" of administrator.

All important admin decisions are made by joint discussion between the administrators, and Marco is also involved in those discussions, both to advise from his own experience and obviously to represent and protect the interests of Jelsoft. I guess in theory, he could overrule any change on the basis that it was not in Jelsofts interests, in practice that has never been an issue.

Now, what was the topic of this thread again ...........

[Shelley_c]

Getting back on topic (Unsure whether this has been implemented) but i think it would be a good idea if a prefix was added [Filled] or [Complete] for threads which have been filled. when the request has been filled the threadstarter can select the option which signals that the request has been completed and he/she is happy with it.

I suppose this could be extended to the request hack area.

Back on topic.

[Dean C]

If only everyone was enthusiastic as you shelley :)! However, I think having labels like this will only heighten the already overbearing "Gimme" mentality within the community. Pepople will assume coming to the forum that their request will be filled, and get annoyed and bump all the time when it's not...

[Marco van Herwaarden]

That is a risk of having a seperate forum for these requests.

On the other hand, it might also get more responses from people with interest in design and graphics as they don't need to find threads of their interest between many other threads.

[Shelley_c]

I find (and from experience) that when members see requests filled and there are signs of high activity in the form of requests being taken on and filled it enduces more designers to get stuck in (even members that are graphics savy) but it's a way of getting members who want to get a foothold into graphic design a foothold in the door and what better place to start than in the graphic requests. This will eventually lead (an assumption) members possibly submitting into the graphic database.

Anyway, I think the idea is worth pondering on.

Edit: @Dean That is a strong possibility that members will bump their threads. So, I would suggest that a line is written in the guidelines that any thread should not be bumped untill 48 hours have past. Sure, this won't stop them from bumping but it will cut down some of the impatient members.

I did write some guidelines in this thread (which I thought would have been implemented and I stated that staff and members are not obligated to fill requests and that the graphic request is community driven. It's like the old age say. You don't ask, you don't get. but in this case you ask, you still may not get. It's just a chance that any requester has to take when requesting.

[Analogpoint]

Warning: On-topic post.

Another idea for making a graphics request forum more rewarding to graphic designers (and to possibly help them get paid graphics gigs), would be to create a simple system, where the designer who fills the request can submit the finished work at the end of the thread, and the original requester has an option to select them as the person who completed the job, then in the designer's profile, have a section similar to the hacks section, where it lists all the design gigs the person has completed, with links to the threads and the finished graphic. If someone is looking to hire a designer, it would give credibility to the designer. This would also motivate the designer to fulfill requests, since there is a "formal" system, along with the benefit of a 'portfolio'.

Hopefully I explained myself right :)

[Dean C]

Sounds like a good idea to me shelly, but I guess that would require moderation. For example, I could create dummy accounts each week, and post requests for little graphics I've done over time. Then just fill them myself, to get my stats up :)

[Analogpoint]

Sounds like a good idea to me shelly, but I guess that would require moderation. For example, I could create dummy accounts each week, and post requests for little graphics I've done over time. Then just fill them myself, to get my stats up :)

Have a minimum post count of 50 to post in the request graphics forum.

[Shelley_c]

Sounds like a good idea to me shelly, but I guess that would require moderation. For example, I could create dummy accounts each week, and post requests for little graphics I've done over time. Then just fill them myself, to get my stats up :)

Should that have been directed at Analogpoint Dean? because I don't mind taking credit for an idea I never put on the table. Sounds like a good idea Analogpoint (though It doesn't benefit me because my online work is free) but I can see the benefits for designers who want to extend their portfolio and the hope of gaining paid work from the graphic requests area.

I would put in some kind of restriction, but wouldn't that then complicate the graphic requests area? Maybe a post count limit would get around but I doubt that a post count limit would be accommodated.

[Shazz]

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=226
It looks good :)