New Official vBulletin Add-on Products [Archive]

Marco van Herwaarden

03-23-2007, 09:18 PM

Announcing the First Official vBulletin Add-on Products

Building on the plug-in architecture offered by vBulletin 3.6, the development team have been hard at work creating new products to widen the gamut of features available to sites running vBulletin.

The first of these new products are now entering the final phase of internal development and testing and will soon be unleashed. This initial batch of products consists of two applications, both of which attach to a new or existing vBulletin installation.

These products have been entirely developed by the core vBulletin development team, rather than being third-party scripts that have been bought-in and adapted, so customers can expect the same level of quality and support as they have become accustomed to with the main vBulletin Forum system.

Blog and Social Networking

In response to user requests we have been working on a blogging system that will fully integrate with vBulletin. vBulletin Blog (a working title) will allow sites running vBulletin to extend the functionality to allow forum users to maintain weblogs from their user control panel and leverages the extensive vBulletin permissions system to enable administrators to fine-tune the features available to their visitors.

Blogs can be made private, with blog authors themselves able to create a list of users permitted to view their messages, while the vBulletin inline moderation system makes it easy to ensure that blogs and comments do not contain unwanted material.

Trackback and pingback support is fully integrated, so site owners can expect to quickly find related sites linking back to their own, improving search engine rankings and building traffic.

Additionally, vBulletin Blog adds social networking functionality to your vBulletin installation, which will allow your users to quickly and safely make connections and form relationships. Member profile pages are extended to include an enhanced buddy system, visitor tracking, blog integration and a comment system, all housed within a new and improved profile page template together with improved delivery of existing profile information.

As usual with vBulletin, every feature and template can be endlessly customised via the admin control panel, and can be extended even further with additional 3rd party plugins.

We are committed to developing tools to enhance your community and unite your members, and with the introduction of blogging and social networking support, vBulletin has become an advanced, exciting, platform on which your community can grow and flourish.

Project Tools

During the development process for the new products, it became clear that it would be necessary to develop a means of managing each new product from conception to completion, and to keep track of progress on multiple projects in one central interface.

To that end, it was decided to merge our existing bug tracker and internal feature tracker into a new, purpose-built system that would support multiple projects and be far more flexible in its application.

It soon became clear as this system was being written that it could be used for managing many other project types as well as software development. Given the number of requests we've had in the past for the bug tracker to be released, the decision was taken to go the extra step and make the system available to customers as an add-on product for vBulletin.

vBulletin Project Tools (also a working title) is the result of that development effort. We have been using the new tools internally for some time now and they have made significant improvements to the way we can keep tabs on how development is progressing. We intend to migrate our existing bug tracker to the new system next week, at which point everyone will be able to have a look around the system.

Next Update....

We are keen to keep you informed during the final stages of development of these new products. Keep an eye on the vBulletin announcement forum over the next few weeks for feature lists, screenshots and details of our plans for beta testing!

This is a very exciting time for the vBulletin team, and at this stage I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your continued support. We do read every suggestion posted in these forums, and continue to work hard to develop stable, feature-rich, software solutions.

You can read the original announcement here at vBulletin.com (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224441)

raiderlax

03-23-2007, 11:43 PM

wow, thats pretty cool, hope they also have some sort of gallery like IPB does. Go VB!

SCRIPT3R

03-23-2007, 11:46 PM

deja vu.

Kirk Y

03-24-2007, 12:09 AM

I was wondering when vB.com would start to make use of the Plugin System for Official Modifications. I'm not too interested in a vBulletin Blog or Bug Tracker -- but at least they're a start.

Staxed

03-24-2007, 12:22 AM

i can make use of the management system...but i'm hoping for a CMS (a REAL one...)

Gsmdenis

03-24-2007, 01:52 AM

Very good news, pls keep it on!

Xplorer4x4

03-24-2007, 07:13 AM

I'm just glad you guys aren't going to change profiles to look more like IPB. :) Sounds like a good start. I can't wait for the releases.

Terminatoronly

03-24-2007, 10:30 AM

thats really great news :D waiting i will wait for THIS RELEASE :D

I AM IN LOVE GUYS WITH 2 THINGS:
1- MY GIRL FRIEND (lol).
2- vBulletin :D.

PoetJA-1975

03-24-2007, 10:41 AM

AWESOME! I (41) am very interested in the vBulletin Blog - I've been looking for something for quite some time and haven't been to keen on vBlogetin OR the vBAdvanced blog project.

Question: Looking for betatesters? I'm definitely interested! Who would I talk to?

Thanx AND again = AWESOME!

Jacquii.

Marco van Herwaarden

03-24-2007, 10:45 AM

At this time we are not looking for Beta testers for any of these products. Most likely the first beta test will take place on vbulletin.com.

If there is a need for external public beta testers, then this will be announced on vbulletin.com, together with the information on how to apply for it.

ragtek

03-24-2007, 10:47 AM

i can make use of the management system...but i'm hoping for a CMS (a REAL one...)
whats a real one for you?
i'm using vbcms and its great
www.ragtek.org ;)

captainslater

03-24-2007, 10:48 AM

Great news, looking forward to this releases :)

Beermonster

03-24-2007, 12:27 PM

Will these add-on's be free or paid?

vB Nova

03-24-2007, 12:45 PM

I doubt they'll be free :p.

I would expect to see a CMS coming as well. A hide hack would also be a popular addition.

goyo

03-24-2007, 12:47 PM

Will these add-on's be free or paid?

Paid...

Staxed

03-24-2007, 12:54 PM

whats a real one for you?
i'm using vbcms and its great
www.ragtek.org ;)

dragonflycms
drupal (my fav)
mambo

look at all the features of those...that's what a real CMS should be

but anyway :) i'm still happy for just these first two releases...whatever comes in the future comes...i'll just live in the present for now :D

bitdefuser

03-24-2007, 01:50 PM

Paid...

Let's wait till the official says so. :(

KingPuyol

03-24-2007, 01:53 PM

I hope these are going to be free with vBulletin, because they will attract more people than IPB if they do.

Kirk Y

03-24-2007, 04:24 PM

I seriously doubt they'll be free. Jelsoft is a business, and any action that requires man power is going to need to be paid, and that money has to come from somewhere.

nexialys

03-24-2007, 04:28 PM

Jelsoft never released anyother software than vBulletin, and it was never free, so the follow-up will be the same.

if you are not happy with that, you can always switch to something else, and stop asking for free stuf.

Marco van Herwaarden

03-24-2007, 05:30 PM

Release dates, prices or licensing options are not decided on yet. They will be announced when the products are released for public.

Ranma2k

03-24-2007, 07:04 PM

Really Great nows

Can't wait to see the new project tools :)

whiteeagle0

03-25-2007, 01:51 AM

:down: can't theses just be free with the updates :confused:

i probbley won't pay for them if there not free i don't have all the money in the world :down:

but great features tho :up: :D

Zia

03-25-2007, 03:36 AM

hmmm....just curious there are

1.Blog..
2.Social Networking..
3.maybe more...
4.....

all things will be one package or available separately? coz evryone maynot need everything

nice to knw abt the blog ..we were planed to buy vblogetin...atm we will wait for the blog :)
hope the blog will realy awsome

Blackhat

03-25-2007, 10:51 AM

what about making a good official CMS

pipin

03-25-2007, 11:31 AM

what about a solid utf-8 implementation?

hambil

03-25-2007, 11:38 AM

If they are paid then they can't be supported or posted here, unless there is a light version, correct? If fact even announcing them here violates the rules setup by the org.

Phooey

03-25-2007, 03:50 PM

These sound awesome, but I would love to see a real CMS come out sometime. Also, I sincerely hope they aren't free. If these products are truly up to par with the quality of vBulletin, then Jelsoft has earned the right to charge for them. I don't really need any of the currently announced products, but if they make a real CMS (not just another portal), I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Adrian.

03-25-2007, 04:11 PM

That's great news!

I submitted the vBulletin.com article to Digg.com, Feel free to Digg it. :)
http://digg.com/tech_news/vBulletin_Software_to_Add_Official_Social_Networki ng_Features

Kirk Y

03-25-2007, 04:20 PM

If they are paid then they can't be supported or posted here, unless there is a light version, correct? If fact even announcing them here violates the rules setup by the org.

This website is owned by Jelsoft - how is announcing new official add-ons to vBulletin a violation?

hambil

03-25-2007, 05:24 PM

This website is owned by Jelsoft - how is announcing new official add-ons to vBulletin a violation?
This site has been very specific about no paid hacks. It doesn't even allow sales like language in sigs, or pretty much anything else other than a lite version that would help you make sales of your work. It has considered, but rejected (as last I heard) the idea of a paid hack directory.

Staff has been very vocal that this is a free, all volunteer, we do it all for love community.

Yes, Jelsoft owns this site. But hawking their own paid hacks while continuing to the above policies rubs salt in an old wound that was finally starting to heal some.

ang2el

03-25-2007, 07:25 PM

This is a great news.

Will this vbulletin blog will be as rich as word press in functionlty ? or more !!! I will give it a try once it is out :)

COBRAws

03-26-2007, 02:17 AM

Waiting for vBulletin CMPS, I already have a blog system (vb addon working great) from a 3rd party coder

PoetJA-1975

03-26-2007, 04:03 AM

Waiting for vBulletin CMPS, I already have a blog system (vb addon working great) from a 3rd party coder

If I may ask... Which blog system do you use.
I've been looking for a nice blog for my forum.

Thanx,

Jacquii.

Beermonster

03-26-2007, 05:44 AM

if you are not happy with that, you can always switch to something else, and stop asking for free stuf.

Where did I say I was not happy? and what other free stuff have I asked for? I was just asking a question, that's what you do on discussion forums. :rolleyes: I would be more than happy to pay for a quality blog and CMS add-on

sensimilla

03-26-2007, 07:56 AM

Outstanding, I will not install any blog software now. Keep up the goos work guys!

COBRAws

03-26-2007, 01:30 PM

If I may ask... Which blog system do you use.
I've been looking for a nice blog for my forum.

Thanx,

Jacquii.
vBadvanced Blogicles, currently only for betatesters. All I can say is that its awesome.

PoetJA-1975

03-27-2007, 03:57 AM

Thanx for the response ;) ---- I'd heard good things about vBlogicles - actually posted in the betatesting thread over @ vBadvanced -- Anyway - I shall stay tuned to that one as well, as vBAdvanced has offered some AWESOME products!

Thanx again -

Jacquii.

Sarthek

03-27-2007, 11:36 AM

Finally!!!

IPB have blog for a long time now. Even phpBB has include version of blog. Searching for solution for over a year now and already wanted to somehow include wordpress, but will certainly wait rather for official vb blog, as the support matters. It s great to see that it will be networking functionalities too, as this is becoming more and more important.

1 question though: RELEASE DAY for blog!? I know its only annoucment yet, and dont expect precise day (or month), but some coders promised in history that they will made this and that within weeks, month or 2, but after a year nothing move forward.

So, is this several weeks, months, or years to develop?

Marco van Herwaarden

03-27-2007, 12:24 PM

If there is a more precize date known, then it will be announced.

hambil

03-27-2007, 12:30 PM

We will announce the date when the date is announced - Marco "The Sphinx" van Herwaarden :D

*It's a Mystery Men reference. 'The Sphinx' (Wes Studi), who can cut guns in half with his mind, but as a mentor to the misfit superheroes spends most of his time uttering 'cryptic' but ultimately unhelpful aphorisms;

rice

03-27-2007, 02:01 PM

i just cant wait to see spiced up profiles...thanks for making this a reality.

Kiint

03-27-2007, 10:39 PM

The way I see this is that they have a few options.

1) They can release it as a paid addon where you have to pay a certain amount to get it implemented and working right for your users. This option will then mean they have to support 2 seperate products and update 2 seperate products together every time a new version of Vbulletin is released. It wont really make the forum system any more attractive than it currently is and only a percentage of people would actually use it if they had to pay for it.

2) They can implement it right into vbulletin as a new release, maybe 3.7.0, who knows, this will create a much more wanted system which will attract many more new customers, existing customers will be able to upgrade and use the system instantly without any trouble or decide to inactivate it within their control panel if they wish. With this method they will gain a larger customer base as people would rather choose a complete system like this rather than a seperate forum system from one of vb's competitors where they would have to buy an extra addon for it. If added to the forums as a default addon they would get a huge amount of people activating it an using it and building extra functionality for it. An idiotproof integrated system will cause a lot less hassle for their support personel and programmers whereas two seperate packages where a user has to install them together will cause a lot more grief for everyone.

These are my own opinions, but personally I would only use any of these new tools if they were released with the next upgrade under my current licence. If I had to pay for these new features then I just wouldn't even look at them twice as I know i can get other versions for free here on vbulletin.org if and when I want them.

It's great that they are investing time and resources into something that people are requesting but I sincerely hope they have a long hard think about how they are going to release them to their existing customers and potential new ones.

amnesia623

03-28-2007, 02:41 AM

Outstanding, I will not install any blog software now. Keep up the goos work guys!

This is what I'm afraid of. Someone will develop a 3rd party add-on and vBulletin will recreate it to make it 'theirs.' I know it sounds crappy I would bring it up, but this would discourage developers to develop software and 'hacks' for vB if they knew there was a possibility it was going to later be released by vB.

And I'm not talking about 'free' hacks either. I have bought my share of add-ons (vbseo, gars, gal, gab, vbphotovote, plus others...).

Right now my users are getting used to zoints. Now if vB offers a social networking aspect how will that effect development of zoints (zoints is an example). And because zoints is widely used, will there be a conversion script (once again, zoints is an example).

rice

03-28-2007, 02:53 AM

i totally understand amnesia's point of view. very valid. i would also like to add that i have been waiting for a social networking/profile enhancement(example) from vbulletin FOREver(see vbspace and the like). i have yet to find one that i love and have literally been holding out for one. i am very thankful that one may be close. i would like to hope that everyone gets better simply by options and competition. there are more and more options being presented and i am very happy about this.

amnesia623

03-28-2007, 03:06 AM

Don't get me wrong, I too am excited about the new add-ons and welcome change.

I just would rather see these ideas implemented as features of VB rather than add-on packs.

ragtek

03-28-2007, 06:30 AM

i think than the hole vb would be more expensive
and why i should pay for something i don't need?

Terminatoronly

03-28-2007, 06:33 AM

if u dont want it then dont buy it :p but there is many people do like this so that vBulletin staff is working on it not for 1 person

---MAD---

03-28-2007, 06:51 PM

LouiseDM

03-29-2007, 09:16 PM

only a year behind IPB modding arnt you .... you finally woke up
Now you might think to add the mods to the actual forum itsself
That members create to help your cause

djbaxter

03-30-2007, 01:45 AM

only a year behind IPB modding arnt you .... you finally woke up

So why are you using vBulletin? Why aren't you using IPB?

Now you might think to add the mods to the actual forum itsself
That members create to help your cause

???

Isn't all of vbulletin.org about add-ons and tweaks?

nexialys

03-30-2007, 11:13 AM

don't waste your energy djbaxter, LouiseDM is not even owner of a vBulletin board...

Marco van Herwaarden

03-30-2007, 09:18 PM

don't waste your energy djbaxter, LouiseDM is not even owner of a vBulletin board...
And how would you know?
Even when it is true, it is not up to you to post such information.

LouiseDM

03-30-2007, 10:31 PM

I am an owner of VB.
Im giving my personal view, i dont like IPB but there modding is furthur ahead than what VB's
is.

Distance

03-30-2007, 10:43 PM

Ipb sucks.. I hate it with a passion :P

LouiseDM

03-30-2007, 10:53 PM

ahh last night you said you loved it !!!!! rarrr

Distance

03-31-2007, 08:29 AM

I did no such thing! :)

I dont like the way you have to edit hundreds of files just for a simple modification.

I look forward to seeing these released in a final stage :)

RedTyger

03-31-2007, 09:31 AM

This is what I'm afraid of. Someone will develop a 3rd party add-on and vBulletin will recreate it to make it 'theirs.' I know it sounds crappy I would bring it up, but this would discourage developers to develop software and 'hacks' for vB if they knew there was a possibility it was going to later be released by vB.

It's happened a few times. I'd take it as a sizable feather in my cap, personally and proclaim from the rooftops that vBulletin added my feature, albeit in an edited-for-inclusion manner. ;)

I am an owner of VB.
Im giving my personal view, i dont like IPB but there modding is furthur ahead than what VB's
is.

I assume by modding what you actually mean diversification of product line? In which case no, they don't have as many products. On the other hand, neither do they have a bad reputation. ;) Modding on IPB itself does not even approach vBulletin's as far as I can see. There is a thread on IPB's forums (http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showtopic=232528) from a month ago asking for a hooks system which as anyone who uses it will tell you just makes modding completely from an end-user perspective and it's not too shabby to write for either. :) Nor have I ever seen an IPB modding community or resource as sizable as this one, though I'd love to see what interesting things they're up to if you can point me somewhere. I'm sure IPB have their strengths with regards to modification as well though, both companies have their own high points.

I'm baffled how the subject even came up to be honest. :confused:

djbaxter

03-31-2007, 01:40 PM

I'm baffled how the subject even came up to be honest.

I'll second that. And then it threatened to turn into a personal chat room for Louise and Distance. I was beginning to feel like a voyeur.

LouiseDM

04-01-2007, 08:58 AM

RedTyger

Well it was the header Official vBulletin Add-on Products there first one.
Am i wrong to believe IPB have plenty of Official addons already as in the mod kind.
Maybe i wasn't clear in my first post thats my point, Why have VB waited until now.

But anyway its a start and good luck :)

RedTyger

04-01-2007, 01:44 PM

Ah okay, I'm with you now. :)

rice

04-03-2007, 03:20 PM

Social Networking next PLEASE!!! It doesn't hurt to ask I suppose.

Thanks,

Rice

calvis

04-04-2007, 06:47 PM

I am glad to see that VB is moving in this direction. Let me know when beta testing start and I just might volunteer. For those that are whining about extra cost...I no problems investing in an add-on that greatly increases functionality as long as it is reasonable.

Zachery

04-04-2007, 10:45 PM

Social Networking next PLEASE!!! It doesn't hurt to ask I suppose.

Thanks,

Rice
Did you not read the announcement?

Zachery

04-04-2007, 10:45 PM

Zachery

04-04-2007, 10:47 PM

I am an owner of VB.
Im giving my personal view, i dont like IPB but there modding is furthur ahead than what VB's
is.
You're aware IPB plans to encrypt all future products? MAking a hook system near useless.

djbaxter

04-05-2007, 12:26 AM

rice

04-05-2007, 02:20 AM

Did you not read the announcement?

zachery, reread....thx!!

Zachery

04-05-2007, 06:53 AM

I'm happy to see the move toward "official" add-ons.

What puzzles me is the choice of projects as the starting place. Is there really that much demand for more blog software?

Why not something that would enhance the basic project, something that almost every vBulletin owner would want and use?
I believe there is to be honest, there are repeated requests and demands for social networking and blog features that the community in general has been unable to meet. The Bug Tracker has long been developed and releasing it is a good overall move :)

chopin2256

04-06-2007, 10:25 PM

Right now my users are getting used to zoints. Now if vB offers a social networking aspect how will that effect development of zoints (zoints is an example). And because zoints is widely used, will there be a conversion script (once again, zoints is an example).
There is a major difference between Zoints and this. Zoints isn't a standalone, I have asked, and tried to obtain a license, but the developers never got back to me. For example, the only way Zoints will run on your system is if you have their key. You also cannot remove their copyright, since it is a free model. This is not ideal if you plan for the future or if you wish to brand your site. Since Vbulletin is offering their paid hack, webmasters will own the license, and they can furthermore choose to pay extra to remove VBulletin branding. As a result, this product will be a standalone, unlike Zoints. This is a huge difference if you are like me and need full control over your business, or community. This is the only reason why I do not choose to use Zoints, and am waiting for this paid hack.

So to answer your question, the more serious webmasters should probably choose this Vbulletin hack, and the hobbyists can probably just stick with Zoints. You do get free traffic with Zoints after all. But developed sites already get traffic, and may not want Zoints traffic. Furthermore, some forum owners such as myself may want to keep communities internal.

djbaxter

04-06-2007, 10:30 PM

How can a social networking add-on ever be stand-alone, no matter who makes it? Doesn't it, by definition, require a network to which to link?

chopin2256

04-06-2007, 10:34 PM

How can a social networking add-on ever be stand-alone, no matter who makes it? Doesn't it, by definition, require a network to which to link?
I am talking about non reliance of a key. Information exchanges between Zoints and your website. A standalone would be something like Myspace, where it retrieves the data from it's database without relying on others. Zoints isn't exactly like this. It may retrieve data from your local database, but if Zoints ever went bankrupt, or decided to stop their service, your community may stop functioning unless Zoints offers a standalone. In any ideal situation, you want to limit your reliance on others for your success. This is why any serious webmaster would choose this hack over Zoints in a heartbeat.

djbaxter

04-06-2007, 11:13 PM

Zoints isn't a standalone

the more serious webmasters should probably choose this Vbulletin hack, and the hobbyists can probably just stick with Zoints

Furthermore, some forum owners such as myself may want to keep communities internal.

I am talking about non reliance of a key. Information exchanges between Zoints and your website. A standalone would be something like Myspace, where it retrieves the data from it's database without relying on others. Zoints isn't exactly like this. It may retrieve data from your local database, but if Zoints ever went bankrupt, or decided to stop their service, your community may stop functioning unless Zoints offers a standalone. In any ideal situation, you want to limit your reliance on others for your success. This is why any serious webmaster would choose this hack over Zoints in a heartbeat.

First, I'm not sure you're in a position to decide what "serious webmasters" will or should decide.

Second, I'm still not sure how this "keeps communities internal".

chopin2256

04-06-2007, 11:31 PM

First, I'm not sure you're in a position to decide what "serious webmasters" will or should decide.
I am not deciding anything, I am stating a plausible audience for Zoints and the VB hack based on the facts, and my conclusions. I am just trying to shed light as to how the two products are different, because they are.

Second, I'm still not sure how this "keeps communities internal".
The VBulletin social network hack just makes use of your community only. Zoints is different because you gain traffic from other Zoints communities, therefore you need a key. For me, this key bothers me, because if Zoints goes under, who knows what will happen to your social network.

Anyway, if you are ok with helping the Zoints network grow, then Zoints is for you. If you are ok with the profiles of your community to be shown on Zoints networks, thir product is for you. But if you are more concerned about making your own community grow and keeping all data internal (no sharing of traffic), and growing your brand, then VB hack is for you.

If this wasn't the case, believe me, I would have used Zoints local a long time ago. Personally, I am not interested in growing Zoints network and I don't want to share my traffic with them. I want to build my own network from my member base ONLY, and I don't want my members to transfer to outside networks. Others who feel the same way will understand what I am talking about, and appreciate the differences. Not everyone will have my needs and wants, and I understand that. Again, these are the stated differences.

djbaxter

04-07-2007, 12:05 AM

The VBulletin social network hack just makes use of your community only. Zoints is different because you gain traffic from other Zoints communities, therefore you need a key. For me, this key bothers me, because if Zoints goes under, who knows what will happen to your social network.

I don't use Zoints local and I'm not trying to be a promoter of that system. I'm just trying to make the point that whatever social network you tap into, you are dependent on the integrity of that network to make it all work. If they change the rules - or decide to levy a fee for use by groups (sort of like an API but with a fee) - you're still at their mercy. Or if for their own reasons they decide to "ban" your forum, as Digg did to one or two this past year, there's nothing you can do about it.

In that sense, it's never going to be stand-alone OR "your community only" - it can't be by definition.

Strike the word "Zoints" in the previous posts and insert the social network of your choice. My points remain.

chopin2256

04-07-2007, 02:20 AM

What I am talking about is social networking within your own community, forget other communities. Doesn't this hack take care of social networking within your own community only? I know this is not possible with Zoints currently. That is where the licenses come into play.

InfoNirvana

04-07-2007, 02:24 AM

whats a real one for you?
i'm using vbcms and its great
www.ragtek.org ;)

vbCMS looks interesting ... it says it has news ... but I can't tell by the demo.

Is there an ENGLISH site with it ?

Demo Site: http://demo.vbcms.de/vbcms.php (login/pass = Test / Test )

Zachery

04-07-2007, 03:22 AM

Looks like a vBA clone to me.

ragtek

04-07-2007, 12:22 PM

vbCMS looks interesting ... it says it has news ... but I can't tell by the demo.

Is there an ENGLISH site with it ?

Demo Site: http://demo.vbcms.de/vbcms.php (login/pass = Test / Test )

the news are working ;)
but like you see my communuity is a closed community, so just members have rights

Surviver

04-12-2007, 07:26 PM

vbCMS looks interesting ... it says it has news ... but I can't tell by the demo.

Is there an ENGLISH site with it ?

Demo Site: http://demo.vbcms.de/vbcms.php (login/pass = Test / Test )

http://www.vbdesigns.de/forum.php?langid=14

Greetings Surviver

punishment

04-12-2007, 08:13 PM

Looks like a vBA clone to me.It is not a clone it is a CMS, vBA is not a CMS ... :p

Zachery

04-14-2007, 10:30 AM

It is not a clone it is a CMS, vBA is not a CMS ... :p
Everything i had scene led me to believe it was a vBa CMPS like system, not a true cms. Perhaps im wrong, i didnt mean cloned code either, just design/style.

hambil

04-14-2007, 11:05 AM

Nobody is going to stop Zoints from continuing their product. Competition is good. Most likely Zoints will remain free or certainly cheaper than a vb official solution. I suspect mods will be released that will bridge the vb system and zoints, making both stronger.

We've seen this model before. ibPro has an official gallery mod that is rather expensive, and has far from dominated their market. There are a number of gallery systems for ibPro that are putting up a considerable fight.

One effect a commercial add-on does have on a product, if history is to be repeated - is it harms the free mod community. In other words - it is often seen as a sign that commercial mods are now accepted and expected.

chopin2256

04-18-2007, 06:55 PM

So when can we expect this to be released? Few weeks? Months? By summer? Next year?

MikeHolohan

04-19-2007, 04:02 AM

Thats what I was wondering too...

Mike.

Marco van Herwaarden

04-19-2007, 09:36 AM

Please keep a watch on the announcements at vBulletin.com for more information on the schedule.

giovannicosta

04-19-2007, 06:41 PM

i really think you should make a fully-featured points mod instead of these or in addition to these :)

djbaxter

04-20-2007, 12:34 AM

i really think you should make a fully-featured points mod instead of these or in addition to these :)

I agree that I wouldn't have chosen the announced projects but I wouldn't choose a points mod either.

I guess no matter what they choose, some of us are going to find it boring. :)

Bratz-Designs

04-20-2007, 05:53 AM

great news, addon products are always good paid or unpaid :)

stephenNYC

04-21-2007, 09:52 PM

Hi- I have a client pressing for some of these features. I'd just as soon use vBulletin products over a 3rd party's, but they are in a rush. Any timeline available?
Thanks
stephen

bmc

04-21-2007, 11:14 PM

There has not been any timeline released for these vBulletin products, Stephen. However, you can always check the vBulletin Announcements forum (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=1) to view official updates and product releases.

GKNetworks

04-22-2007, 01:25 AM

I am looking forward to the blogs! If you guys could find a way, or the time, maybe you could do also make the blogs so you could have a custom URL for your blog. If your already doing this then ignore my post.

So if the blogs were installed on here they could, via the same usercp for making the blog, set the URL.

http://www.vbulletin.org/MyBlog

I know an IPB webmaster who custom made his diaries to have that option and its proven really popular.

Just an idea.

polyrandom

04-26-2007, 12:05 AM

Is it possible to give an rough estimation on the release date of the blog? 2 months? 6 months? 1 year? a decade? :)
Though there are at least 2 other similar products ( like vBlogetin ) on the market, I think most of the users are willing to buy the official blog if it is not too faaaaaaaaaar away.
To me, if the blog will be release in 2-3 months, I will wait. However if the time frame is around 1 year, I will probably go for other product.

iogames

04-26-2007, 04:37 AM

A date gives certainty and we'll move forward to discuss the possible features...

djbaxter

04-26-2007, 11:59 AM

A date gives certainty and we'll move forward to discuss the possible features...

When have you ever heard of a software release where the release date was "a certainty"?

chopin2256

04-26-2007, 10:01 PM

Exactly, please give us an estimate of when this will be released. There is no harm done if the ETA is not exactly correct.

rice

04-27-2007, 04:18 PM

comical

Paul M

04-27-2007, 09:00 PM

There is no harm done if the ETA is not exactly correct.I think past experience disagrees with you here, which is why ETA's no longer tend to get given.

Atwal

04-28-2007, 03:07 PM

In the new products from vBulletin, is it possible to receive a Rap Battle System optional made by vBulletin in the future as it is requested very oftenly? Isn't that why these are being made as well?

rice

04-29-2007, 06:10 AM

Atwal...
I would love to see that as well.

Cheers.

Marco van Herwaarden

04-29-2007, 03:25 PM

There is currently no public ETA for any of the new Products.

A Rap Battle System? I doubt we will ever see that from Jelsoft.

Atwal

04-29-2007, 10:05 PM

Unless Jelsoft is secretly working on the greatest Rap Battle System ever and want us to think there'll never be one commin' out.

STT

05-03-2007, 06:48 PM

Why announce this with such fanfare when you can't even give a hint of a hoped-for release? Better to keep quiet and then announce when you actually have something to get people excited about, I'd have thought.

I've no doubt the product will be excellent, but the original announcement was so long ago now that I'm thinking I'll have to get a product that's currently available rather than wait indefinitely, which is a shame.

Anyway, good luck with the Blog stuff.

kall

05-03-2007, 06:57 PM

Unless Jelsoft is secretly working on the greatest Rap Battle System ever and want us to think there'll never be one commin' out.
No.. it's really highly unlikely.

PoetJA-1975

05-03-2007, 09:57 PM

Paul M

05-03-2007, 10:41 PM

People complain when they are told nothing, then they complain when they are told something .... they can't win can they ....

Reeve of shinra

05-04-2007, 01:46 AM

Yes they can, regular communicate about whats going on :)

Abbypitt

05-06-2007, 01:15 PM

Whenever it comes out, I think it'll be great! Patiently awaiting! :)

Atwal

05-08-2007, 03:33 AM

Wtf is wrong with everyone in this thread? They're workin' on somethin' for you customers 'n all you can do is complain. If you don't want it don't get it simple. They don't have to make one, but they are, so stop complainin'.

Also, why won't Jelsoft ever make a Rap Battle System? Can someone bring it up with them. I'm sure if they get enough people wanting it they would make it, that's why these are being made.

Kiint

05-08-2007, 05:59 AM

Also, why won't Jelsoft ever make a Rap Battle System? Can someone bring it up with them. I'm sure if they get enough people wanting it they would make it, that's why these are being made.

a Rap Battle System? what on earth is that?

It's a bit like asking them to make a classical music chainsaw counting system.....They obviously want to make a system that will appeal to the greater part of their customer base and not a small niche.

kall

05-08-2007, 06:24 AM

a Rap Battle System? what on earth is that?

It's a bit like asking them to make a classical music chainsaw counting system.....They obviously want to make a system that will appeal to the greater part of their customer base and not a small niche.
..and the Apt Analogy winner is... Kiint!

:)

Although the theory of 'enough demand and it will be added' is true, the demand for features like Rap Battle Systems is likely to be on the extreme low end of the spectrum.

PoetJA-1975

05-08-2007, 04:30 PM

a Rap Battle System? what on earth is that?

It's a bit like asking them to make a classical music chainsaw counting system.....

It's a similie https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/ ROFL
Nice!

Jacquii.

STT

05-09-2007, 06:45 PM

Wtf is wrong with everyone in this thread? They're workin' on somethin' for you customers 'n all you can do is complain. If you don't want it don't get it simple. They don't have to make one, but they are, so stop complainin'.

I'm just giving my opinion - not complaining. I did say in my post that I'm sure the product is going to be excellent. I was asking for a rough estimate of when the product could potentially be ready - just as an indication. If I didn't want a blog product I wouldn't be so interested in when this one will be ready.

That said, I was under the impression that the opinions of customers were valued.

Atwal

05-09-2007, 09:08 PM

Well, some people are complainin' non-stop. Those are the people that post was aimed at.

chopin2256

05-11-2007, 02:27 PM

I agree, please give some kind of ETA, there must be some kind of knowledge as to when this will be released...is this software even being worked on or is it just in planning stages?

Wtf is wrong with everyone in this thread? They're workin' on somethin' for you customers 'n all you can do is complain. If you don't want it don't get it simple. They don't have to make one, but they are, so stop complainin'.
Some of us are actually waiting for the product. For example, in my case, I am holding off on other solutions because of the anticipated release. Not having an ETA is a huge deal for me, and quite honestly, is putting a hold on my website development like crazy. The reason why I want to wait for the product (if it comes out within a reasonable time) is because it is made by Jelsoft, and I know it will have support, and be of high quality. How can I make any decisions if I don't even have a clue as to when this will be released? I am hesitant to outsource for obvious reasons, but I WILL outsource, if I knew this thing would not be released by the beginning of next year. That is why providing customers promises of software such as this is not a good idea if you can't follow up, because had you NOT mentioned this project, I probably would have either made a deal with Zoints and purchased a license by now, or have hired a coder to develop my custom software. Some people are waiting around for you, and I am one of them. I am not trying to complain, but just trying to state how people can be affected negatively by situations like this.

giovannicosta

05-11-2007, 02:36 PM

Is this going to be paid or free?

FleXy

05-22-2007, 08:08 PM

when this project will be realized?

kall

05-22-2007, 08:17 PM

Probably better to ask at vBulletin.com, as they are the ones working on it.

HydraulicJack

06-08-2007, 08:19 PM

I hope somebody will post to this thread (to which I'm subscribing) when these cool tools become available. Thanks!

HJ

nascimbeni

06-14-2007, 06:56 PM

Yes I am holding off too to other sulutions so an ETA would be great !
Paolo

http://my.lifeinitaly.com

G0F0RBR0KE

06-15-2007, 12:46 AM

Who knows, it could be free :D

But if it's paid, paying it won't harm us. We spended 160 on vBulletin ;)

FleXy

06-15-2007, 09:44 AM

i am realy intresting in this product and still waiting for it (didn't install other vb blogs)

ps. also subscribed to this thread.

alessai

06-15-2007, 09:02 PM

Who knows, it could be free :D

But if it's paid, paying it won't harm us. We spended 160 on vBulletin ;)

hope its free,,, like it ,,,, but cant affored to pay more :(

djbaxter

06-16-2007, 12:30 AM

It's NOT going to be free.

PoetJA-1975

06-16-2007, 07:48 AM

I'm sorta pissed actually...
2 facts:

This announcement was made in March: 23. Mar 2007, 18:18
It is now June and no announcement from vBulletin

3 facts actually - the 3rd being I pissed off - should I actually go ahead and buy the vBlogetin? Seems like we've been strung along enough if you ask me!

March, April, May, June - where the hell are you vBulletin "Add-on" products?

Jacquii.

FleXy

06-16-2007, 08:05 AM

[QUOTE=PoetJA-1975;1269587]
March, April, May, June - where the hell are you vBulletin "Add-on" products?
/QUOTE]

+1

I am waiting like you...
Where is announcements??
I need this product... I still waiting for a monthes.
In March somebody from VBulletin write that Blog from VB ready for 90%....
And who can beta-test this software? I realy need it...

Eric

06-16-2007, 12:12 PM

djbaxter

06-16-2007, 01:47 PM

3.6.6, which is the min. required version - wasn't released until May 11th, beta testing didn't start until May 23rd and it's only June 16th

Patience is a virtue.

And if you've put your life on hold waiting for a product you haven't even seen yet and which you may not like when you do see it, you've got more problems to worry about than Jelsoft timelines.

FleXy

06-16-2007, 06:23 PM

And if you've put your life on hold waiting for a product you haven't even seen yet and which you may not like when you do see it, you've got more problems to worry about than Jelsoft timelines.

Are you suggested us to buy something like vblogetin?
I am look at it, it's BETA... and I didn't like functionality :-(

Where is VBulletin team voiсe? Will be realised converter VBLOGETIN <-> Jelsoft Blogs with Jelsoft Blogs.

djbaxter

06-16-2007, 06:28 PM

Are you suggested us to buy something like vblogetin?
I am look at it, it's BETA... and I didn't like functionality :-(

Where is VBulletin team voiсe? Will be realised converter VBLOGETIN <-> Jelsoft Blogs with Jelsoft Blogs.

I'm not suggesting you buy anything. I'm suggesting that you make decisions on what is available now or be patient until something else is released. Jelsoft has already said they don't have a release date to announce.

da420

06-16-2007, 07:28 PM

should I actually go ahead and buy the vBlogetin?

If you can't be patient for the official vB add-ons, then, yes, if vBlogetin suites your needs - Why not? Adrian is a good coder, and from what I have seen he has made a great product.

Sychev_S

06-16-2007, 09:50 PM

Well if private beta testing is only going to start in the end of this month, then I am assuming the final release would not come anytime soon :)

FleXy

06-17-2007, 07:54 PM

Who can join for beta testing?

VBlogetin have own comments system for blogs entries. I want to see comments like a thread.

Sychev_S

06-18-2007, 02:32 AM

Noone anymore. Beta testing applications are no longer available.

CP,

06-18-2007, 09:21 PM

I have the following points to make.

I hope this mod beats myspace if not something near enough will make me happy. Things like.. members should be able to add their own youtube videos and other images and have customizable skins. If this is possible with this mod then you shall see me the first to try it.

I have hungry users on my forum. I have brought a domain soley for blogging and networking, i was considering to purchase phpfox which offer almost the same thing as myspace for communities but they cost a bomb, nobody is going to pay $300 for their product when their have been breaches within their codes and peoples sites getting hacked. Their are also nulled versions out there which dosent really impress me.

Since this is a mod for vb, and in order for it to work users will need to have to purchase the vb software to install. Which is already a high price for the vb software within itself. But If this mod pricing could be kept very cheap somewhere in the region of maybe $20-$50 then i think it should be a good hit. As vb within itself costs $160 + vat.

I would also strongly suggest if this mod could have its own front page.. so when people click on "My Blog" or "List of blogs" or maybe "myspace" they go straight to the main page portal of this blogging/myspace module. This way users will be able to see the myspace effect and new users will be prompted to register.

I hope this is coming out soon! As i have brought a domain which is a sitting duck and really is waiting for this mod to be released.