Why is it so hard to get customized work here at vBulletin.org ?

[wii]

No matter if I ask for paid or non paid work, I rarely get any response for even simple customized work. I wonder if I´m just unlucky or just too impatient, but I would be nice with more help from other members.

Thanks

[Ziki]

Write more simple posts.People hate long posts.

[wii]

All my post are always very simple and short.

[RedTyger]

Do the opposite. If your potential coder doesn't even have the patience, intelligence-span or initiative to read anything longer than a few words I doubt they're worth bothering with anyway.

Write clearly and concisely as many details as you want to publicly give about what you're requesting. If someone writes a post requesting work along the lines of "I want some work doing, probably a weeks worth for vbulletin, PM me for details" I won't bother. I don't want to spend ages forcibly digging out the details on the offchance it'll be a job I can do. Tried it a few times, it was a waste of time. You can judge a customer by their request post surprisingly well.

I haven't noticed your posts I'm afraid, but it is very common for people to vastly underestimate how much they'll have to pay for work. I've seen a day's work offered $50 payment many many times. $50 seems to be a common figure for some reason. If you're not sure what it's worth (don't end up offering too much!) then just leave the price up in the air and deal with it on a per-coder basis. And remember that cheap is rarely the best. ;)

HTH.

[Guest190829]

The more detailed you are in your service requests post, the easier it is for a coder to know if he can complete your project. IE: Your budget, Service Request Deadline/Timeline, Complete Project Summary, and any other additional information that a Coder may need...

This wont guarantee you will get your requests answered, but it will certainly help. :)

[Stangsta]

On another note....dont make a request for 4 hours worth of work and say you're willing to spend $40. If its not worth the time, you will get little to no response....and the ones that do respond....I wouldn't trust them working on my site because if they accept lowball amounts....they probably have little exp. This doesnt mean offer to spend alot of $$$, but know whats fair, and make fair offers.

[RedTyger]

Hahaha. I take back my dismissal of Ziki's suggestion, since the two posters following me just repeated exactly what I said in my long post. Guess there was something in what he said after all. ;)

[noppid]

On another note....dont make a request for 4 hours worth of work and say you're willing to spend $40.

That's very common and why I don't even bother reading the requests forum.

[SCRIPT3R]

from a quick glance at your requests, a lot of those things are already available here. you just have to search better i guess.

Send PM or Mail with new User Notes posted - already been done.
Showing posts/member count on non-forum HTML page - already been done.
New Posts Counter ? - already been done (a lot!)
Featured Poll on Index.php - can be done with default setups (no need for hack)
Showing results 1 to 30 of 74 - already been done.

[d8tabyte]

I think its hilarious that you guys say "It isn't worth my time to spend 4 hours of my time for 40$" when you spend countless hours supporting hacks, creating hacks and then uploading them here for free. Yet when someone asks you and offers to give you something for your time, your time automatically becomes much more valuable.

As the previous poster said, most requests have been created already if you search hard enough, here or at any other modifications forum, and if it hasn't - wait 6 months, someone will end up doing it anyway.

I understand charging a premium rate for something that would take days and much research to do, but you know as well as I do many of these requests can be completed with nominal work once you sit down to actually do them.

[noppid]

I think its hilarious that you guys say "It isn't worth my time to spend 4 hours of my time for 40$" when you spend countless hours supporting hacks, creating hacks and then uploading them here for free. Yet when someone asks you and offers to give you something for your time, your time automatically becomes much more valuable.

As the previous poster said, most requests have been created already if you search hard enough, here or at any other modifications forum, and if it hasn't - wait 6 months, someone will end up doing it anyway.

I understand charging a premium rate for something that would take days and much research to do, but you know as well as I do many of these requests can be completed with nominal work once you sit down to actually do them.

What is hilarious is that you actually think you know how we manage our time.

When you custom code, you are married. Why would I work for 40$ a full day only to have someone say i didn't do enough despite that? Which is usually the case. I'd pay 40$ not to have that aggrevation because no one ever asks what they want at face value. Once you start, they start with the, "oh one more thing" and if you refuse, they come and trash you.



Here's an old quote, you get what you pay for.

[d8tabyte]

Then don't do requests period. There are many scripts out there for a flat rate that take many more hours to code than say a "display choice of postbit" script. And for the record, just because I don't have the coder title doesn't mean I don't know what it is like to be a coder. I have a newborn, a wife, a full time job and I manage a website that takes a good amount of my time.

If you have issues with how the deal goes down, don't do it. But don't sit here and say it's not worth your time, it makes you sound pompous. I said it depends on the difficulty of the hack, it should be relative - to say anyone who does a job for less than 30$ an hour or what ever it is you think you are worth is a hack job, is insulting to those who simply enjoy helping others and just want to be compensated for their time without raping the admin of what ever board requested the hack.

[noppid]

That's funny. I say I wont take the work and you put me down.

I explain it and you say don't take the work then, which I already made clear I don't for that type fee.

Go figure.

[d8tabyte]

Actually, I am not in any pissing contest with you. I was originally talking about what Stangsta said. You just keep repeating yourself. I've made my point and so have you - be done with it.

[Stangsta]

I think its hilarious that you guys say "It isn't worth my time to spend 4 hours of my time for 40$" when you spend countless hours supporting hacks, creating hacks and then uploading them here for free. Yet when someone asks you and offers to give you something for your time, your time automatically becomes much more valuable.

As the previous poster said, most requests have been created already if you search hard enough, here or at any other modifications forum, and if it hasn't - wait 6 months, someone will end up doing it anyway.

I understand charging a premium rate for something that would take days and much research to do, but you know as well as I do many of these requests can be completed with nominal work once you sit down to actually do them.Lets see...

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When did I ever spend countless hours supporting hacks, and creating hacks? The ones I released I used for my own site and wanted to share with the community. So something that was ALREADY MADE (pay attention) and took no time at all to post on vb.org....still with me? That is supported in my spare time or my bored time (to help the community), Does not cost me a thing, not even time in my eyes. Maybe its good enough for me and I dont want to add user requests......but It gets done out of pure goodwill, and not greed.

On the flip side, people ask me to do work all the time, from installations to custom coding. I give them a fair price and an honest answer of whether I can do it or not. So now that I have to say.....do an install....during my "prime time" hours because they want you to do it RIGHT NOW!!!1, and maybe not do something with my family or friends...or even relax and watch some football after coming home from my full time job, I should charge them $40 for going out of my way to do something for them that they cant do or are too lazy to do? Are you f*ing kidding me? These people dont want to wait 6 months, THEY WANT IT NOW!!!! And Noppid is 100% correct when he says they ask for that "oh, 1 more thing" and if you cant do it or wont do it for the same price, they trash talk you. So yes, Pay my price, a fair price, and all things considered....If you need something else, ask and if its no big deal, i'll hook you up only because I wasnt lowballed. And the "days and research" WE HAVE ALREADY DONE IT WITH OUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE! That costs something....time.

Do me a favor, dont even get me started....

[noppid]

One of the biggest misconceptions that vBulletin.org has given is the perception that there is a free and open community to support the additions to a paid product.

It works when people give freely. It does not work when people make demands.

[wii]

From my list:

Send PM or Mail with new User Notes posted - It wasn´t availabe when I requested this.

Showing posts/member count on non-forum HTML page - Where ?

New Posts Counter ? - Not in the form I would like

Featured Poll on Index.php - can be done with default setups (no need for hack) - Not true, this is not a standard feature - it was done after I requested it.

Showing results 1 to 30 of 74 - Not in the form I would like

[EasyTarget]

just find a coder whose work/attitude you like and try to get in touch with them regarding it.

maybe another feature to help with this would be to allow coders to click a checkbox which says whether they do custom work or not and then in the mods they release there's a little graphic saying they do that type of work and/or have a coder database of people that do custom work and allow for users to give feedback about the work the coder has done for them.