New Style vs Old Style

[Shazz]

In all the threads there seemed to have arguments back and forth
Wanted to see what the majority thinks
*Poll your vote

[teedizz]

old for now until i get use to the new layout

[MRGTB]

I like the new style, its a lot better. And the way the site navigation has been altered is now much easier

[TTG]

Would prefer an option fluid instead of fixed width .. I personally hate fixed.

[Guest190829]

Would prefer an option fluid instead of fixed width .. I personally hate fixed.

User Options (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/profile.php?do=editoptions) -> Default Style Width -> Select "Yes, switch me to a wider layout."

[Smoothie]

I like both. :p

[Shazz]

I like both. :p

Be sure to poll


* Shazz votes new

[Smoothie]

Be sure to poll


* Shazz votes newI'm still debating that decision.

[KURTZ]

it's the same for me, anyway i saw that in the UCP the users can select the orizontal or vertical postbit ...

i'm really interested in this modification :P

so goob job guys! really good job

[Smoothie]

it's the same for me, anyway i saw that in the UCP the users can select the orizontal or vertical postbit ...

i'm really interested in this modification :P

so goob job guys! really good jobThere's something posted over at vb.com that allows a choice for postbit or postbit legacy. It was posted for 3.5 (I think), but it is supposedly good to go on the latest version. Sorry, no link.

[Shazz]

There's something posted over at vb.com that allows a choice for postbit or postbit legacy. It was posted for 3.5 (I think), but it is supposedly good to go on the latest version. Sorry, no link.

I remember seeing that on vb.org as well...

[KURTZ]

There's something posted over at vb.com that allows a choice for postbit or postbit legacy. It was posted for 3.5 (I think), but it is supposedly good to go on the latest version. Sorry, no link.

thx :) just posted on vB.com

[Shazz]

thx :) just posted on vB.com

They might tell you to go to vB.org lol

[Darat]

I prefer the new style, my only negative (so far!) is the colour of the quick reply box, the sandy colour is too obtrusive, oh sorry I do have another one: postbit legacy templates should be altered to force signatures to the bottom, it results in a much neater look!

But overall really do like the new style especially the new header, breadcrumb and navbar navigation.

[Allan]

I don't like the new style, very not usual, (old button, old colors ....vB 3.0.0 ??)

I vote for the old style .....

[PennylessZ28]

I like the new style, but I have 3 complaints.

The TABS are STUPID looking.

the search is crap and I can't get to the advanced search easily anymore!

and 3rd, the PM notification area is super tiny. What a load of crap.

[DementedMindz]

I prefer the new style, seems like its loading much faster too.

[agitated]

A refreshing change. How about allowing the choice of fixed and fluid.

My only gripe, don't like the fixed style, too narrow.

[Spinball]

A refreshing change. How about allowing the choice of fixed and fluid.

My only gripe, don't like the fixed style, too narrow.
Seconded. But like the changes.

[Lars-Christian]

For advanced search just click the black arrow next to search. And as has been pointed out already there is an option between fixed and fluid width. Read!

I like the new style, it's fine, once I switched to fluid and legacy postbit at least ;) I think the icons are crap though. Crap I say!

Is this new a style a move towards something closer to the default style, since you are the official vBulletin source for mods and such?

Edit: Also, the postbit is a bit annoying, seeing how there is no link back to forumhome!

[SaN-DeeP]

New Style

[Paul M]

Edit: Also, the postbit is a bit annoying, seeing how there is no link back to forumhome!The "Forums" tab at the top right is a link back to forumhome (or click on "vbulletin mods" top left).

[agitated]

Doh!! never thought to check my User CP. Changed to fluid, much better.
Nice work Princeton . :cool:

[evenmonkeys]

I don't really have a favorite. Don't really pay attention to the layouts when I come here. In any case, they did a fine job on the layout. Very well done.

[Giray]

Modern, similar enough to the default to remain familiar. Nice. I like it. :)

[KURTZ]

They might tell you to go to vB.org lol

no! :D CHECK-OUT! (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215294)

[Shazz]

no! :D CHECK-OUT! (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215294)

Nice it worked out for yea

[Luky]

Old style. Dont like the colours on the new one.

[itsid]

well hit the "old style" option.

I don't like fixed styles very much...

make this one a fullscreen and I'll be fine ;)

'sid

[EDIT]
found the checkbox in my usercp... fluid.. perfect ...
If I only could change to postbit_legacy too... :D

[Mr Pink]

Old styles, sure. http://www.web-city.it/forum/images/smilies/brumbrum.gif
However, it isn't a bad job.

[peterska2]

well hit the "old style" option.

I don't like fixed styles very much...

make this one a fullscreen and I'll be fine ;)

'sid

[EDIT]
found the checkbox in my usercp... fluid.. perfect ...
If I only could change to postbit_legacy too... :D

There is a checkbox there for postbit legacy too.

[dead7]

Blue overload and the nav.. well..

[itsid]

There is a checkbox there for postbit legacy too.

There is??

awesome...!

current playing song: Cherry poppin daddies (rapid city muscle car) - the search :D

'sid

[WhaLberg]

Both are great.

[realraptor]

thx :) just posted on vB.com

I'm not sure if this is it, but it could be this post. (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169124&highlight=postbit)

[KURTZ]

I'm not sure if this is it, but it could be this post. (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169124&highlight=postbit)

thx but this seems be for 3.5.x

[Shazz]

It was 25-20 New style now the new style just blew it off...

[Andrew]

I'm not a fan of bright styles, so I prefer the old dark blue style still.

[AuroraStorm]

I voted for the old style...this one will take some time to get used to but the thing I don't like about it is I had to search all over East Jesus to find certain things...I still can't find the template updates for the ibProArcade...

Oh well...change takes some getting used to and this too shall pass...

[Feckie (Roger)]

Have you noticed that on 1 coder as made all the Mods on this Board,
We Done " Developer " http://www.kellysbestofoldies.com/recipe/appl.gif

[PennylessZ28]

The "Forums" tab at the top right is a link back to forumhome (or click on "vbulletin mods" top left).

You guys are so freaking typical. Why make any suggestions at all, you just do what you want. You've been doing this and running vb.org like this for 2 years. :mad:

The Nav Bits are a bad idea and you know it. It's confusing! I should not have to learn somethign new simply becuase you think we should. Your like freaking Microsoft.

[BaconDelight]

What happened to being able to select a theme? That's my biggest gripe with the new style.

[da420]

You guys are so freaking typical. Why make any suggestions at all, you just do what you want. You've been doing this and running vb.org like this for 2 years. :mad:

The Nav Bits are a bad idea and you know it. It's confusing! I should not have to learn somethign new simply becuase you think we should. Your like freaking Microsoft.

Sorry, but I highly doubt that typing in large bold text is going to get your point across any differently.

The way I see it is this... whether you like it or not, it's only a style. If a style is the only thing that keeps you at this site, maybe this site is not for you. Is it set up the way you want? Not always, and not everything is always going to be tip top right off the bat. The only thing you can do is make creative suggestions, which you are not doing such, and just seem to be looking to draw attention to yourself. Things are still new, it's going to take some getting used to, you just have to view it with an mind open to the change. If you do not, then you will never get over this, and if that is the case, it's probably best for you to just leave if it bothers you that much that in every thread you feel the need to complain, and give little, if nothing constructive.

Paul, and the rest of the vB staff are going to run things how they feel neccissary. Things may or may not change, but less than 24 hours into it, you can not expect them to address, and fix every single issue or request by every member. You can give suggestions, but if your suggestions are not in a positive, constructive manner then it is highly unlikely they will be addressed.

That being said, I like the new things that the team brought to the table. The styles I am not so crazy about, but the other things are good, and I am looking forward for what the future has in store. Thanks to the staff for your hard work.

[DirectPixel]

In all the threads there seemed to have arguments back and forth
Wanted to see what the majority thinks
*Poll your vote
I like this new style. Very nicely integrated, and not bad on the eyes either. :)

I personally think the old Smooth Blue style looked like crap. :p

[Paul M]

I personally think the old Smooth Blue style looked like crap. :pI would blame the designer of it ;)

[DirectPixel]

I would too. ;)

[jwocky]

IMO: Big big mistake going to this style. From a graphics standpoint the previous one was LIGHTYEARS ahead of this one. I understand the need for change and to add functionality, etc.. I'm speaking from a graphics/visualization standpoint. Its a shame to give up something so good to be honest.

[BaconDelight]

What happened to being able to select a theme? That's my biggest gripe with the new style.
*slaps forhead* It only took me 3 scans through the CP to find it.

But still, the options are less creative than the old options. I don't mind the overall formatting changes that happened, but definitely preferred the old color scheme options that included the darker-palette choices.

[Shazz]

Smooth blue did look like crap, and never knew how it got to be the default last year :confused:

[wengi]

Old style for me looks better :)

[Transverse Styles]

Old style... definitely...different online.

[malc1959]

old style for me too

[SCRIPT3R]

at least update the buttons too.

[da420]

I agree with that... new buttons would be cool... but as long as they function that's all that really matters... :)

[Shazz]

I loved the little evelops https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2007/01/15.gif

[Luky]

well hit the "old style" option.

I don't like fixed styles very much...

make this one a fullscreen and I'll be fine ;)

'sid

[EDIT]
found the checkbox in my usercp... fluid.. perfect ...
If I only could change to postbit_legacy too... :D
On the same page these is another option to switch to legacy, or as they call it the "old" post bit.

why Cant We Have Both The Old One And The New One To Pick From?

[Shazz]

On the same page these is another option to switch to legacy, or as they call it the "old" post bit.

why Cant We Have Both The Old One And The New One To Pick From?

You do have the old postbit and the new postbit to pick from?

[Guest190829]

You do have the old postbit and the new postbit to pick from?

Edit Options (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/profile.php?do=editoptions) -> Thread Display Options -> Default Postbit -> Select 'Yes, I prefer old-style postbit. '

[JamieLee2k]

Hate it, Hate it, Hate it, oh and did I say Hate it

Navigation is worse, the layout is all wrong, and I really think you should give us the choice of the old style

[Shazz]

Edit Options (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/profile.php?do=editoptions) -> Thread Display Options -> Default Postbit -> Select 'Yes, I prefer old-style postbit. '

Thats what I ment, I was confused by his question :cool:

[SCRIPT3R]

Hate it, Hate it, Hate it, oh and did I say Hate it

Navigation is worse, the layout is all wrong, and I really think you should give us the choice of the old style
c'mon, tell us how you really feel. ;)

[Smoothie]

no! :D CHECK-OUT! (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215294)That's not the one I'm talking about.

[Mark.B]

no! :D CHECK-OUT! (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215294)
There is a better way to do that, involving a small plugin and a custom field. It's on here somewhere, but I believe it's also actually on vbulletin.com as well for some reason. I have it on my site, users simply selct "top" or "left" styles (a user-friendly way of saying standard or legacy) similar to on here but with both options and a radio button for each.

You alter the plugin depending on which one you want as default. Saves having two styles.

There is a better way to do that, involving a small plugin and a custom field. It's on here somewhere, but I believe it's also actually on vbulletin.com as well for some reason. I have it on my site, users simply selct "top" or "left" styles (a user-friendly way of saying standard or legacy) similar to on here but with both options and a radio button for each.

You alter the plugin depending on which one you want as default. Saves having two styles.

Found it!

It's on vbulletin.com too, even though it uses a small plugin:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169124

It's not the same one as used here but it will give you the same effect - a user-selectable postbit without different styles for each.

[Lars-Christian]

The "Forums" tab at the top right is a link back to forumhome (or click on "vbulletin mods" top left).

I'm aware, but that doesn't really help when I instictively hover over the breadcrumb in order to get back to forumhome. I don't see the purpose of removing it at all. Was it done just to try and differentiate from the rest? Either way, it's a bad idea. Just because everyone else is doing something one way, it doesn't mean that you have to change it. It just might be that it works.

[Paul M]

and I really think you should give us the choice of the old styleSorry, but the old styles are gone for good, they have already been deleted from the forum.

[Logikos]

I really enjoy the new styles compared to the older styles. I also understand why you would want one just one style for a site. Managing mutable styles is a pain plus managing one style leaves more room to work on other aspects of the site.

[Paul M]

I'm aware, but that doesn't really help when I instictively hover over the breadcrumb in order to get back to forumhome. Believe it or not - I know what you mean - I have the same problem on the TAZ forums because their Quick Links and New Posts links are not on the right next to the logout, I instinctivly go there and end up on some Zoints or Tags link. Things are not always the same, but people adapt. I don't think the breadcrumbs is likely to be changed.

[Bubble #5]

The worst thing about the new style is that it is way too narrow, giving it a unprofessional feel. If it was set to 90-95% it would be more acceptable.

[peterska2]

There is an option to use a fluid width (100%) in the userCP > User options

[DirectPixel]

There is an option to use a fluid width (100%) in the userCP > User options
Maybe it'll be nice to have that displayed in a more noticeable way. Lots of people seem to be having trouble finding it. :)

[lighter]

The new one!!!

[Bubble #5]

There is an option to use a fluid width (100%) in the userCP > User options

THANK YOU peterska2 :)

[Ascor]

I love the new one, look more professional :)

[SCRIPT3R]

Maybe it'll be nice to have that displayed in a more noticeable way. Lots of people seem to be having trouble finding it. :)
i agree... why not add in a Quick Style Chooser near the bottom of the forums? i perfer the fluid styles myself.

[Lars-Christian]

Believe it or not - I know what you mean - I have the same problem on the TAZ forums because their Quick Links and New Posts links are not on the right next to the logout, I instinctivly go there and end up on some Zoints or Tags link. Things are not always the same, but people adapt. I don't think the breadcrumbs is likely to be changed.
No problem. I'm just giving you my $0.02, and I'm glad you even noticed it, and I'll have no problem adaptating, just need to reorganize some stuff up there in my head, and it's really quite messy.

Having managed a site of equal size as vB.org, I know that times like these (right after a major rehaul) are never really pleasant, but just hang in there. Filter out all of those nonsense posts about how everything is going wrong here, and try to take notice of constructive feedback, and of course positive ;) In a few weeks, all is back to normal and people will love you all again.

[imported_infitech]

The new Skin is approximately 1 BILLION times better!
YAY FOR A MORE COMFORTABLE FIXED SKIN!
WOW!
Bravo!


How long has this been in the works?
Is it going to be available for the general public?
Who did it?
I'm not sure if it were there before or if I'm just noticing it because of the new skin, but what articles mod is it?
What other mods are installed with this new skin?

The worst thing about the new style is that it is way too narrow, giving it a unprofessional feel. If it was set to 90-95% it would be more acceptable.(This is not JUST an opinion) ^^^^WRONG!^^^^

I love the new one, look more professional :)I STRONGLY agree.

This new layout makes me want to post more.
VBulletin.org is now my HOMEPAGE! :p

[AntiThesis]

I voted for the new style.

It's streamlined, allows much easier navigation and all round quite nice. Good work on that.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

i agree... why not add in a Quick Style Chooser near the bottom of the forums? i perfer the fluid styles myself.
Because it technically is only 1 style. The "Style" option in the UserCP, is more somehting like a color-scheme picker. It is all in a single style that gets dynamically adjusted to the users settings.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

How long has this been in the works?
Is it going to be available for the general public?
Who did it?
I'm not sure if it were there before or if I'm just noticing it because of the new skin, but what articles mod is it?
What other mods are installed with this new skin?
The whole process have taken many months of discussing, prototyping and styling/coding.

No it will not be made available to general public as we like to have our own unique look, and it contains many vBulletin.org specific features.

The styling is mostly done by Princeton, the coding mostly by Paul.

There is not a real articles mod.

Many, many, many most coded specific for our (members) needs.

[zappsan]

The new style is a lot better than the old one IMO :)

[Xoligy]

To be honest I hate the new style. The old was much better IMO. Why not let us choose which one?

Just a note but you can make it fluid from your UserCP. It's much better fluid and with legacy postbits.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Why not let us choose which one?

Because the old styles will not work with the new functions anymore, and we have no plans to maintain multiple styles.

Although we do appreciate all constructive feedback, asking for the old styles to return will simply not happen.

Instead you could better focus on suggestions to improve the new style.

[Shazz]

Why not let us choose which one?

Because the old styles will not work with the new functions anymore, and we have no plans to maintain multiple styles.

Although we do appreciate all constructive feedback, asking for the old styles to return will simply not happen.

Instead you could better focus on suggestions to improve the new style.

Yes its nice to have a new change, More attracting style :cool:

[CAMS]

style is to cramped for the type of stuff on vb.org. :(

makes it seem all to hectic and harder to read.

[SCRIPT3R]

i agree... why not add in a Quick Style Chooser near the bottom of the forums? i perfer the fluid styles myself.Because it technically is only 1 style. The "Style" option in the UserCP, is more somehting like a color-scheme picker. It is all in a single style that gets dynamically adjusted to the users settings.
ok, then why not have a Color-Scheme Chooser near the bottom of the forums?

[Paul M]

style is to cramped for the type of stuff on vb.org. :(

makes it seem all to hectic and harder to read.are you using the wider (fluid) option.

[Mark.B]

Well I think the new look is superb. It's smart and streamlined and modern looking while retaining a distinct vB flavour, more so in fact than the old one did.

I liked the old one but it was starting to look dated, this is much nicer. And the ability to switch posting styles and choose between fixed or fluid is nice too, I have similar functions on my board so it's great to see it here.

Extremely nice work!

[Mikecp421]

looks nice and all the customizations are mad cool but I liked the way it was, it was unique and I got used to it, but I wont stop coming here because of this style.

[imported_infitech]

looks nice and all the customizations are mad cool but I liked the way it was, it was unique and I got used to it, but I wont stop coming here because of this style.
There was nothing unique about the way it was before. It was just a fluid layout with changes to the color of the tables.

[sinisterpain]

I like the new style and the way the options are easily reachable. Great job!

[Smoothie]

The black stuff, it doesn't look good.

[imported_infitech]

The black stuff, it doesn't look good.what are you talking about bro?

[Smoothie]

The firstnew.gif icons, the black border below the footer, the black outline on the forum nav buttons.

[Mikecp421]

There was nothing unique about the way it was before. It was just a fluid layout with changes to the color of the tables.umm yes it was, the STYLE I used was unique to here but thanks for trying to correct me

[sensimilla]

New site is just outstanding and looks really pro. I think many new features are really useful!
No matter what they say old style was demode.

[Thomas P]

Very nice, good work.

I like the new style, good one.

[Kohhal]

Really like the new style, nice one!

[vietfancy]

i like the old style better. This style that we useing right now has too much hacks installed on it, a lot slower than the old one, confusing me sometimes, made me feel like im living in a box.

For a forum like vb.org, i think its a bad idea to have this skin installed. We need something clean, easy to read, and load fast and simple.

anyway... who i am to tell the staff what to do.

[Shazz]

Votes were pretty close, thought it would be different

[ubuntu-geek]

I like the new style as well. I run into the same issue on my board when I make forum style changes.. the mass cry :) Keep up the good work.. People will get used to it.

[esfron]

As a simple user looking for mods, I don't much care about design. The new design looks very promising. I am sure staff will continue to enhance it over the next few days and weeks.

I am just looking forward to getting the best mods&support possible.

[imported_infitech]

What happened to the background!???!?!@
PUT IT BACK
PUT IT BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shazz]

What happened to the background!???!?!@
PUT IT BACK
PUT IT BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please calm down sir
If you have read some of the Site Feedback threads it should answer your question

[ItsELRey]

I don't see either of the two

[azn_romeo_4u]

arggg I hate the new style. Everything seems so compact. Why don't vb just let us have th abilite to pick our skin. Man. Bring the blue back !!!!

[Shazz]

I don't see either of the two

Well if you never got the peek of the old style I guess you couldn't really give feedback on the old one...

[peterska2]

arggg I hate the new style. Everything seems so compact. Why don't vb just let us have th abilite to pick our skin. Man. Bring the blue back !!!!You can increase the width in your UserCP Options to spread things out more.

[Mark.B]

I love the new style. I like to embrace change, and people need to give it a little time while they get used to it.

It's really very good indeed. And I recommend enabling the thread priority colour feature, once you become used to it it makes reading through forums so much easier.

Those who don't like it, make sure you're aware you can go fixed OR fluid, legacy postbit OR "new" postbit, and choose from four colour variations, all in the UserCP (Options). You can make it pretty much how you want.

I also like how the team have listened to comments on the logo and the breadcrumb bar, I think these are better the way they are now.

My only comment at the moment is that graphically the tabs at the top right hand corner don't look quite right, as if they are unfinished. I like the idea of them and would like them to stay but they don't seem to match the sleek look of the rest of the design. They need tidying up a bit.

[Brandon Sheley]

I like the new style alot :)
I love the little things that have changed

[Mosh]

I like the new style also, and even though I know it is not coming back I do miss the Plain Green Style, but hey sometimes to progress forward some things just have to go.

Now a tutorial on how to use one style with multiple CSS files would be great as I am assuming that depending on the selection we make in the UserCP we are having separate CSS files loading instead of having CSS integrated in the database.

[Gholsie]

Where can I get the new style? I love it.

[imported_infitech]

Where can I get the new style? I love it.Your answer...No it will not be made available to general public as we like to have our own unique look, and it contains many vBulletin.org specific features.

[Quillz]

I really like the new design. It looks so fresh and modern, and is much better than the old design.

[Shazz]

Where can I get the new style? I love it.
A few people have asked this
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=136285

[MortysTW]

Don't get me wrong, vbulletin.org fricken rules beyond words.

But as far as this new skin, I think its very pleasing to the eyes as for colors, but I think it needs to be altered a bit.

As the first post of this thread stated, the TABS are pretty damn ugly. Would work on some sites, but just don't look right to me. Not sure why.

But that's no big deal. The part I'm gonna +++++ about is the width of the site. I think the default style should be one that adjusts to the user's monitor. If I'm at 1040x then the tables should be coded so the pages pull out to 1040x. The main reason people kick up their resolution is to get more on their screen at once. By forcing the table widths with this new style, I might as well be running at 800x.

Change it. More at once is better. Less scrolling is ALWAYS better.

And before everyone bites back about how I can go change the style in my UserCP, I understand that. Relax. I don't think users should have to "change" the style of a site to improve it or maximize. Choosing styles should be more for fun, color, or mood preferences. Not to make a site actually function to its full potential.

Okay, I'm getting off my soap box. Who's next?

[Noiz Pollution]

i really don't like it, the whole header feels like it's been squashed and yet the text used is still pretty big, which just looks weird in my opinion, it looks like there's far too much going on and all the colours seem to be fighting for your attention

[MortysTW]

Ya, I kicked the width up to 100% in my usercp > edit options and it definetly improved things. But I think the 100% should be the fault. Not the 785pix as the default.

[ArchangelX]

The only thing I don't like is the cramped area...I wish it could expand a bit more for those of us that use higher resolutions. Other than that...I think it's great!

Oh wait...I didn't know you could do that...in that case...I think it's a great change! The old one was very basic. This one is pretty up-to-date and modern looking.

[Dominic]

I voted for old style cuz this is harder to find some things and hard to get used to, just my opinion :P