Why is this site so slow

[attroll]

I have not been coming here for a while now and then I started coming back and using this site again a couple months ago on a regular basis now and it is very very slow compared to what it use to be like. What happened in the last year that made this site so slow and are there plans for fixing it?

[kall]

This site performs as well for me now as it ever has.

[da420]

Same here. Seems to load fast.

[attroll]

This site performs as well for me now as it ever has.
Really? A good example would be this thread we are in right now. If I hit refresh it take this page 45 seconds to reload from start to finish. That is an awful long time for a refresh. I do not have this problem anywhere else or on vBulletin.

[da420]

Pressed reload, and it took no more than 3 seconds.

[attroll]

I wonder why I am getting this problem then? Maybe it is taking the long way and going through china to get to the vB.org server from where I live. It never use to though.

[ged]

Are you using dial up connection with a 9600 modem?

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Check your proxy settings to see if you are not going over some slow proxy server.

Also check your PC for malware.

[attroll]

Check your proxy settings to see if you are not going over some slow proxy server.

Also check your PC for malware.

It is not malware and I don't think it is the proxy settings because I am on DSL.

It does it on every computer I own.

Oh wait, It went back to normal. Everything is loading like it use to now. When I am in a large thread and go from page to page it moves right along again.

When I refresh still takes 45 seconds though. Must be something to do with the refresh.

[peterska2]

it's taking me 30 seconds on my cell so its running quicker than vB.com here

[sezmar]

This site is fine for me it loads in 1.315 secs

[firstrebel]

Many things can cause this. I also get a slow response from this site, even 'cannot find server' at times.

Since this does not affect everyone across the board you have to look at your connection. Many ISPs now have 20:1 and 50:1 connections, 50:1 being the standard. This means you share the connection with 49 others. You also have to look at the load on your local telephone exchange. My local exchange is usually showing 'severe congestion'.

It goes on...

Bob

[Shazz]

0.13

[attroll]

Many things can cause this. I also get a slow response from this site, even 'cannot find server' at times.

Since this does not affect everyone across the board you have to look at your connection. Many ISPs now have 20:1 and 50:1 connections, 50:1 being the standard. This means you share the connection with 49 others. You also have to look at the load on your local telephone exchange. My local exchange is usually showing 'severe congestion'.

It goes on...

Bob
That is not the case here, if it was then all the web sites I visit would be slow during the same time period and that is not happening. This is the only web site that I am having a problem with.

Is there any programs or test I can run to figure out what is causing the slow loading from the internet or where the slow down is coming from on the internet? It must be the internet because like I said this is the only web site I have problems with.

[Shazz]

That is not the case here, if it was then all the web sites I visit would be slow during the same time period and that is not happening. This is the only web site that I am having a problem with.

Is there any programs or test I can run to figure out what is causing the slow loading from the internet or where the slow down is coming from on the internet? It must be the internet because like I said this is the only web site I have problems with.
Do you have problems with vBulletin.com also..

[Marco van Herwaarden]

You could do a traceroute to see if there are any slow hops.

[attroll]

You could do a traceroute to see if there are any slow hops.
I was one step ahead of you and did this already. Here is a screen shot of what I got.

[rogersnm]

*ponders the meaning of life*

Working fine for me

*does trace route as well*

[Dan]

Seems your isp is doing something funny with your connection, does it show the same to all sites? Can you ping google.com and vbulletin.com for us?

[MRGTB]

strange one that, try using another style to view this site. And see if that changes things. I find this site as fast as always.

[Shazz]

strange one that, try using another style to view this site. And see if that changes things. I find this site as fast as always.
Hes using the most basic one..

[da420]

Looking from his traceroute that wouldnt matter anyways. Try other sites. It's probably your ISP.

[MRGTB]

if it was is ISP though, he'd be having problems with most other sites also. Not just this one.

[da420]

Not always.

If it was a problem with this site then more people would be experiencing the problem.

Could it possibly be a DNS issue?

[Dan]

If it was a DNS issue he wouldn't be able to access it, some ISPs tend to let more data or less data go through for certain websites.... At least i've noticed that from isp to isp.

[attroll]

It has picked up for me some this morning. Right now a refresh on this site is only taking 20 second instead of the 45 seconds that it was taking. I think it was because of the two routers that were down in Texas (Dallas) and Texas (Pampa). Hopefully it will improve some more.

[faital]

Hi, This post is very informative, however I would like some specific information. If someone can help me then please send me a private message. Best Regards,

[Paul M]

faital,

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[davidw]

Just for fun, since vb.org and vb.com are a little slow for me and they time out once in a while, I did a tracerout (after reading this thread) and here is what I got.

[ZacUSNYR]

This site whips right along for me :)

[attroll]

For me it loads the headers fairly quick but then to dogs right down. I have never had it timeout. But it can be really, really slow at times.

[Dan]

If you look at the tracert David you'll see where the *'s are is where it's timing out kinda, and looking at the hostmask says SBC which is probably your ISP which means ISP issues! :) At least that's what I remember how tracerts work....

[Paul M]

A few intermediate * are nothing to worry about if the final times are ok (and 70ms is fine, the average from the uk is over 110ms). What you also have to remember is that most routers give a very low priority to icmp requests, so pings and trace times from them can sometimes be misleading.

[ymy]

hi

this site is very fast form Saudi Arabia . One of bad lines and ISP in the world

test your internet line form

http://www.testmy.net/tools/test/d_load.php

they will give you report about your proplem and you can send to your ISP

thanks

[fsw]

faital,

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That message your responded to is a spam bot :)


.....


After I posted the above - I confirmed it for ya

http://forums.webhostdir.com/showpost.php?p=42851&postcount=736

[Paul M]

I guess they won't be updating their status then .... :)

[fsw]

I guess they won't be updating their status then .... :)


Spam Bots these days? I wouldnt put anything past them in an attempt to get their message of cheap viagra to the masses :)

[davidw]

If you look at the tracert David you'll see where the *'s are is where it's timing out kinda, and looking at the hostmask says SBC which is probably your ISP which means ISP issues! :) At least that's what I remember how tracerts work....I'll bring that up to my manager, considering I work for an ISP - that's coming from that ISP (we have a 10mb DS3 connection). ;) ...

[davidw]

Like I said... it was just for fun - I'm not complaining. Most any other sites work plenty fast for me (my bandwidth usage is not capped :P) Downloading files (especially in network) are much much higher than on my 4mb/1mb cable connection at home.

[ImportPassion]

For me it loads the headers fairly quick but then to dogs right down. I have never had it timeout. But it can be really, really slow at times.

exact same thing for me.
I am on a 12Mbps connection too.
I had one * in my trace route for this hop dllsbbrj01-so000.rd.dl.cox.net [68.1.0.177]

vb.com seems fine tho.

[ZeroX Prodigy]

5 seconds...

Browser, Connection Speed? I have no other ideas..

[Reeve of shinra]

vb.org is really slow for me as well right now. vb.com is fine however. Trace route sucks...

traceroute to vbulletin.org (69.93.104.202), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.54.96.1 (10.54.96.1) 9.191 ms 8.529 ms 8.519 ms
2 ge4-1.nycmnyu-rtr2.nyc.rr.com (24.29.104.193) 9.125 ms 8.801 ms 9.918 ms
3 pos3-0.nycmnyk-rtr2.nypos3-0.nycmnyk-rtr2.nyc.rr.com (24.168.128.98) 9.442 ms 10.786 ms 7.653 ms
4 pos4-0-nycmnyk-rtr1.nyc.rr.com (24.29.101.233) 8.109 ms 6.678 ms 9.987 ms
5 24-29-113-221.nyc.rr.com (24.29.113.221) 12.277 ms 8.371 ms 8.309 ms
6 tenge-0-0-0.nwrknjmd-rtr.nyc.rr.com (24.29.119.94) 9.598 ms 9.271 ms 8.343 ms
7 4.79.188.37 (4.79.188.37) 13.568 ms 9.367 ms 12.417 ms
8 ae-2-56.bbr2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.68.99.161) 12.482 ms 13.623 ms 25.716 ms
9 ae-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (64.159.1.109) 78.882 ms as-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net (64.159.0.137) 47.996 ms 47.386 ms
10 ae-24-52.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.48) 60.279 ms ae-14-53.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.80) 65.107 ms ae-24-56.car4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.176) 50.032 ms
11 THE-PLANET.car4.Level3.net (63.209.48.110) 74.129 ms 52.669 ms 54.044 ms
12 te7-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.26) 50.969 ms te7-2.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.10) 50.640 ms te7-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com (70.87.253.26) 49.988 ms
13 vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.76) 61.190 ms vl21.dsr01.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.67) 58.367 ms vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (70.85.127.76) 52.649 ms
14 po2.car19.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.36) 61.846 ms 61.716 ms 62.696 ms
15 ca.68.5d45.static.theplanet.com (69.93.104.202) 73.099 ms 52.452 ms 51.660 ms
Trace complete

[peterska2]

Just to make you all feel better about how quick it is, heres my trace route and ping to here.


Tracing route to vbulletin.org [69.93.104.202]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 679 ms 706 ms 502 ms 172.18.51.100
2 486 ms 624 ms 576 ms 172.18.248.129
3 716 ms 650 ms 624 ms 172.18.107.237
4 492 ms 732 ms 597 ms 172.18.247.133
5 585 ms 654 ms 670 ms 172.18.247.145
6 598 ms 621 ms 622 ms 149.254.212.24
7 526 ms 644 ms 646 ms 172.18.238.205
8 577 ms 586 ms 609 ms 172.18.238.198
9 551 ms 653 ms 620 ms LINX-gw13.LON.GB.NET.DTAG.DE [62.159.199.169]
10 553 ms 650 ms 567 ms 62.156.131.150
11 534 ms 565 ms 515 ms 62.156.138.98
12 686 ms 630 ms 603 ms so1-0-0-2488m.ar1.dal2.gblx.net [67.17.73.34]
13 789 ms 702 ms 768 ms The-Planet.ge-0-2-1.ar1.DAL2.gblx.net [64.213.17
6.150]
14 672 ms 776 ms 777 ms te9-2.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.14]

15 969 ms 800 ms 686 ms vl22.dsr02.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.127.76]

16 1013 ms 811 ms 752 ms po1.car19.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.4]
17 639 ms 790 ms 670 ms ca.68.5d45.static.theplanet.com [69.93.104.202]


Trace complete.



Pinging vbulletin.org [69.93.104.202] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=1892ms TTL=48
Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=2047ms TTL=48
Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=1424ms TTL=47
Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=2303ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 69.93.104.202:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1424ms, Maximum = 2303ms, Average = 1916ms


If anyone gets slower then you get a prize :p

[fsw]

W:\>ping vbulletin.org

Pinging vbulletin.org [69.93.104.202] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=51
Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=51
Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=51
Reply from 69.93.104.202: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 69.93.104.202:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 40ms, Maximum = 44ms, Average = 41ms

I am going to guess its an ISP/Distance/Location/Something other than the server/host for vbulletin.org

Either that or they just really like people from Vegas and keep a fast lane open for us :)

Just to compare -

yahoo.com
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=54

google.com
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=104ms TTL=238

sportsforum.ws
Reply from 66.36.253.99: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=52

www.whitehouse.gov
Reply from 70.183.191.120: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=55

apple.com
Reply from 17.254.3.183: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=236

vbulletin.de
Reply from 80.237.154.40: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=39

godaddy.com
Reply from 64.202.188.201: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=109

vbulletin.com
Reply from 69.93.104.200: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=51

mozilla.com
Reply from 63.245.209.10: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=244


... looks pretty much the same to me.