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Zoints
09-28-2006, 10:00 PM
There will be no future releases of the 3.5.x version of the tags system, only the 3.6.x and later revisions. AJAX support in vB 3.5.x is far too problematic to work with and slows down development time significantly. Due to most forums being on or making the transition to 3.6.x, we've decided to do this so that we can provide more features and better support in a timely manner going forward. I apologize for the trouble, but feel this is the best decision for the community at large.

Demo:

http://network.zoints.com/tags

A great article on the importance of tagging can be read here (http://www.shirky.com/writings/ontology_overrated.html).

The Zoints Thread Tags System will improve forum side search, SEO, and traffic for forums that choose to utilize it. And in my opinion, it's just plain cool :)

When a member creates a new thread, they can now input a series of "tags". Tags are simply keywords that describe the thread.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


If you then go to your-forum.com/tags you will be presented with what is called a "tag cloud". The more times a tag is used, the larger the text grows. As you can see, the tags are also searchable.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


Clicking on one of the tags in the cloud then lists all of the threads that are tagged with that particular keyword. The default option lists tags in a forumdisplay format. There is an option in the admincp to use a simple format.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


Clicking on the thread title of one of the above threads then takes you to the thread. If you have the option on, the tags the thread are tagged with are also listed above the thread. Clicking one of those tags takes you to all the threads on the forum tagged with the same tag. Search engine spiders are going to have a field day with this :)
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


The thread starter and moderation staff have a slightly different view which allows for administration of tags:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


The forum's tags are also searchable via the search dropdown. The advanced search option allows for a variety of additional criteria to be seached for. Your members create a whole new (and highly efficient) forum search engine!
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


If you have the option on in the admincp and register your forum, once every hour, your tagged threads in publically viewable forums are linked via the corresponding interest tag on the Zoints Forum Network (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=126669). For example, if you go to http://zoints.com/tag/children you will see what is pictured below. Not only is this a great relevant inbound link for SEO, but you will get traffic from Zoints direct to these threads!

Another example of this in action: http://zoints.com/tag/music

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


The admincp options
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png

Official support for this modification will be at http://network.zoints.com in this forum (http://network.zoints.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55).


Change log:

2006/10/24 - 1.2.1
* Bugfix: breaking inline moderation when tag cloud below posts
* Bugfix: ajax input not working when tag cloud below posts
* Bugfix: seo hook effective for "results as threads" option
* Bugfix: Autogenerated tags have "quot" removed
* Bugfix: Automated template edit screwing up styles
* Improved instructions for manual template edits

2006/10/19 - 1.2.0
* Option to display results as threads
* Advanced search page
* Popular tag cloud pagination
* Popular tags displayed in forums
* Option to display tags in showthread at the top/bottom
* Fix for vbadvanced products navbar links
* Other minor fixes and tweaks

2006/10/02 - 1.1.2
* Bugfix: Foreign language characters in thread description
* Bugfix: Commas showing up when removing first tag in showthread via ajax
* Removing some redundancy in the tags AJAX removal

2006/09/30 - 1.1.1
* Bugfix: Preventing all HTML from being parsed inside tag descriptions

2006/09/30 - 1.1.0
* Adding and deleting tags from showthread via AJAX
* Mass-deleting single tags from entire cloud for admins
* Automatically generate tags for older threads (with option to show or hide on main cloud)
* Automatically stripping out tiny (2 or less characters) tags

2006/09/28 - 1.0.8
* Minor bugfix

2006/09/28 - 1.0.7
* Bugfix for required tagging

2006/09/28 - 1.0.6
* Character replacements
* Tag limit per thread
* Option to require tags for a thread
* Bugfix where stopwords may not have worked properly
* Bugfix for vBSEO / main cloud not showing up

2006/09/xx - 1.0.5
* Unreleased dev build

2006/09/23 - 1.0.4
* Ability to add multiple tags via showthread.php
* Ability to exclude certain forums from utilizing tags
* Addition of custom hook for developers to change thread urls

2006/09/21 - 1.0.3
* Ability to add and remove tags from showthread.php
* Bugfix for older versions of mysql

2006/09/21 - 1.0.2
* Small bugfix

2006/09/20 - 1.0.1
* Showing tags list on showthread.php

2006/09/20 - 1.0.0
* Initial release

Zoints
09-29-2006, 06:22 AM
Reserved for FAQ and troubleshooting.

+buG
09-29-2006, 01:33 PM
Looks very promising :)

Snake
09-29-2006, 02:04 PM
Awesome! I'll check this out soon... :)

Zoints
09-30-2006, 11:25 PM
1.1.1 has been uploaded. This is a major upgrade:

2006/09/30 - 1.1.1
* Bugfix: Preventing all HTML from being parsed inside tag descriptions

2006/09/30 - 1.1.0
* Adding and deleting tags from showthread via AJAX
* Mass-deleting single tags from entire cloud for admins
* Automatically generate tags for older threads (with option to show or hide on main cloud)
* Automatically stripping out tiny (2 or less characters) tags

This upgrade not only allows ajax adding and deleting of tags, but it also includes the ability for you to tag all of the old threads on your forum automatically by incorporating words entered into the thread title.

A new navigation bar appears in your admincp:

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/tag-nav.png

The new tag manager screen:

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/tag-gen.png

tansu
10-01-2006, 12:56 AM
Thanks for the great and modern add-on.
I think this is the hack of the year..
But, we want more :D
Turkish support..
Turkish charachters are not displayed and I cant teach my members not to use them.
Congrats again..
Really good idea.

Zoints
10-01-2006, 01:25 AM
Thanks for the great and modern add-on.
I think this is the hack of the year..
But, we want more :D
Turkish support..
Turkish charachters are not displayed and I cant teach my members not to use them.
Congrats again..
Really good idea.

Have you tried the character replacement system?

tansu
10-03-2006, 12:11 AM
Have you tried the character replacement system?
Well, I was the admin right?
good idea to check the admin panel from time to time:hurt:

I tried this
ş s

I get this
ş u015f

What could be wrong with me?

Zoints
10-03-2006, 05:01 AM
What could be wrong with me?

Nothing. That looks to be on our end. I'll have our engineers look into it. Sorry for the trouble :)

Zoints
10-03-2006, 05:53 AM
1.1.2 is now available for download.

2006/10/02 - 1.1.2
* Bugfix: Foreign language characters in thread description
* Bugfix: Commas showing up when removing first tag in showthread via ajax
* Removing some redundancy in the tags AJAX removal

Please overwrite files and product to upgrade.

Zoints
10-03-2006, 05:54 AM
Nothing. That looks to be on our end. I'll have our engineers look into it. Sorry for the trouble :)

That's fixed in the new version :)

Zoints
10-04-2006, 04:11 AM
1.1.3 has been released which fixes showthread ajax bug. Sorry for the trouble.

djwins
10-06-2006, 05:35 AM
wow, this sure looks neat *tags*

Zoints
10-19-2006, 06:46 AM
Major Update - Zoints Tags 1.2

Thank you to everyone who provided feedback for this next version. Special thanks go out to Buro9.

Changelog

2006/10/19 - 1.2.0
* Option to display results as threads
* Advanced search page
* Popular tag cloud pagination
* Popular tags displayed in forums
* Option to display tags in showthread at the top/bottom
* Fix for vbadvanced products navbar links
* Other minor fixes and tweaks

Upgrade Instructions

1. Upload all files
2. Import new product and select "yes" to overwrite.

The new features

When you go to the admincp options for the thread tags, you are now presented with the option to display tag results in a forumdisplay format:

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/t6.png


When that is selected (it is the default now), then your tag results will look much like your forum display as seen below:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png

This is exciting, because you now have a near infinite number of virtual forums with highly relevant threads within your forum. The SEO implications are enormous.


Two more options in the admincp are shown below.

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/t7.png


As you can see in the dropdown, you now have the option to have a tag cloud above threads on forumdisplay.php, below threads on forumdisplay.php, or off. The same goes for the tags on showthread. The image below is an example of the tag cloud below threads on forumdisplay. Please note that these are tags just for that specific forum. So you now have forum by forum tag clouds :cool:

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/t2.png


We now allow for you to have a "popular tag cloud" pagination. You set the number of pages to display :)

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/t5.png


We have implemented a powerful "advanced" search for tags. This is especially exciting in that the search is very efficient. This was tested on a big board with over 400,000 theads. Each thread was autotagged yet searches took less than a second whereas normal searches bog down. In other words, if your members tag threads well, then you now have a much more efficient, human generated search engine.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2008/05/1.png


You can search to see what tags a member has used, tagged threads with more than X replies, and all the other advanced search functionality. :cool:

http://img3.zoints.com/forums/tags/t4.png

Enjoy!

djwins
10-19-2006, 07:35 AM
Wow, the new changes look great.
It's getting hard to resist installing this.

Any chance of letting the admin assign usergroups tag editing permissions?
It seems like a great reward to give to "higher" usergroups.

Zoints
10-19-2006, 06:31 PM
Any chance of letting the admin assign usergroups tag editing permissions?
It seems like a great reward to give to "higher" usergroups.

Yes, i'm sure we'll be able to add that to a later build.

Make Money?
10-24-2006, 12:26 PM
I also would rather my admin / moderation team be in charge of all things to do with tag creation... and not the users.

I am aware that his might be a 'small minded' view... and am willing to review it in future..but the forum I run is a technology based one and I dont want newbies tagging their misinformed posts as 'goldmines' of information.. I would prefer instead to have selected key threads tagged so that newcommers to the site are presented only with high quality, vetted information. I standby eagerly to try this once it can be made admin / moderator only.

Thanks very much

Zoints
10-25-2006, 12:05 AM
1.2.1 has been released. This is primarly a bugfix release:

2006/10/24 - 1.2.1
* Bugfix: breaking inline moderation when tag cloud below posts
* Bugfix: ajax input not working when tag cloud below posts
* Bugfix: seo hook effective for "results as threads" option
* Bugfix: Autogenerated tags have "quot" removed
* Bugfix: Automated template edit screwing up styles
* Improved instructions for manual template edits

ushkand
10-27-2006, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the great hack. Looks like this is the perfect hack for what I was looking for. I have a question - How would I add a tag automatically to a new thread link? something like this? what is the right syntax?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=112&tag=xxx

Also what is the syntax for searching based on a specific tag?

Thanks again for an awesome hack.

tpearl5
10-27-2006, 04:46 PM
Chapman, do you work for Zoints? I've gotten e-mails from them before regarding their services, but this actually looks interesting.

kompakt
10-28-2006, 07:00 AM
Thanks DChapman, the latest build fixed my issues with adding new tags via ajax. However, this addon does not seem to get to my vba CMPS. When I added the zoints profile it worked fine and did all the automated template edits including the navbar on cmps. With the thread tag system it is no where to be seen on cmps and I could not get a tags module working for that matter either.

Zoints
11-01-2006, 01:44 PM
Thanks for the great hack. Looks like this is the perfect hack for what I was looking for. I have a question - How would I add a tag automatically to a new thread link? something like this? what is the right syntax?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=112&tag=xxx

Also what is the syntax for searching based on a specific tag?

I apologize, i'm not quite following what you're trying to accomplish. What do you want to do and why?

Chapman, do you work for Zoints? I've gotten e-mails from them before regarding their services, but this actually looks interesting.

Yes I do. If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks DChapman, the latest build fixed my issues with adding new tags via ajax. However, this addon does not seem to get to my vba CMPS. When I added the zoints profile it worked fine and did all the automated template edits including the navbar on cmps. With the thread tag system it is no where to be seen on cmps and I could not get a tags module working for that matter either.

Did you do this with your CMPS?

5. Note for vBadvanced CMPS users
============================================
In order for the automatic template edits to work, login to your admin cp, click on the
"Default Settings" link under the "vBa CMPS" section. Once there, add the following to the
"Portal Output Global Variables" setting

zointstags_searchform
zointstags_tagslink

Hammon
11-09-2006, 12:16 PM
This hack is amazing!
But as I can see is not possible to search multiple tags, why? It would be great to have this possibility (ie comma separated words in search).

Adding tags to threads with char like "àèìòù" tags are incorrect added to thedatabase: (ie. "velocita" -> "velocitu00e0").
p.s. I use UTF-8 encoding

ChrisSy
11-09-2006, 02:25 PM
Great hack, thanks.

Has anyone got this working with vbseo? Would be great to have the threads that are pulled by the tag search to use vbseo rewritten urls rather than the vb default.

Thanks.

Edit: Found the answer here http://network.zoints.com/showpost.php?p=13672&postcount=2

Zoints
11-09-2006, 10:38 PM
This hack is amazing!
But as I can see is not possible to search multiple tags, why? It would be great to have this possibility (ie comma separated words in search).

Adding tags to threads with char like "?????" tags are incorrect added to thedatabase: (ie. "velocita" -> "velocitu00e0").
p.s. I use UTF-8 encoding

We hope to allow for multiple tag searching in the future. And we'll have better multi language support in the next release.

tbaleno
11-10-2006, 04:20 AM
Nice. I second the multiple tags search feature request.

kafi
11-21-2006, 06:01 PM
Is there a way to set up different tag-systems or probably just clouds for different forums?

I see that there is already option to exclude some forums from tag system, but that will work only for one topic.
I have few topics on my board and that is why I wish to have separate cloud for each one....

Is this possible with current version or doable in future?
Thanks!!!

Zoints
11-21-2006, 09:03 PM
Kafi,

I forsee that being doable in the future.

To everyone else here. There will be no future releases of the 3.5.x version of the tags system, only the 3.6.x and later revisions. AJAX support in vB 3.5.x is far too problematic to work with and slows down development time significantly. Due to most forums being on or making the transition to 3.6.x, we've decided to do this so that we can provide more features and better support in a timely manner going forward. I apologize for the trouble, but feel this is the best decision for the community at large.

kafi
11-22-2006, 07:20 AM
Thanks DChampman .-)

hope you can add this feature ASAP .-) ... and you made another bit to push me into 3.6x .-)

999s.net
03-27-2007, 09:41 AM
i want Zoints show on ForumHome, not CMPS. Everybody help me ?

Cagonni
03-28-2007, 05:39 AM
here is turkish replacements

u011e g
u011e u
u015e s
u00dc u
u0130 i
u00d6 o
u00c7 c
u011f g
u00fc u
u015f s
u00f6 o
u00e7 c
u011e g
u015e s
u0130 i
u011f g
u0131 i

Parker Clack
06-10-2007, 12:39 PM
I know this isn't being supported in 3.5 anymore but is there away to strip " out of a tag. When there is a name quoted in a thread title what shows up in the tag cloud is quotxxxquot with xxx as the thread title.

Calahan
06-17-2007, 08:52 PM
Hello

Is there a minimum MySQL requirement for this Mod

I am using vbb 3.5.8 and MySQL 3.23.58 and get MySQL errors

Thanx

hxe
07-16-2007, 11:52 AM
benim sorunsuz karakter setim bu

u011e g
u011e u
u015e s
u00dc u
u0130 i
u00d6 o
u00c7 c
u011f g
u00fc u
u015f s
u00f6 o
u00e7 c
u011e g
u015e s
u0130 i
u011f g
u0131 i
ü u
Ü u
Ş s
ş s
I i
ı i
Ğ g
ğ g

belki işinize yarar

veyissen
04-21-2009, 11:39 AM
I have a question. Zoints has a character replacement system but I don't want to character replacements. I want to use turkish character in tags.

just like this thread's tags

http://www.bilgipasaji.com/forum/temel-hastaliklar-ve-tavsiyeler-353/98835-kan-sekeri-dustugunde-neler-yapilmalidir.html

but when I click the tag, special characters disappear.

kan ekeri dtnde neler yaplmaldr

actually, thera are some character in url. >

http://www.bilgipasaji.com/forum/tags/index.php/kan-%C5%9Fekeri-d%C3%BC%C5%9Ft%C3%BC%C4%9F%C3%BCnde-neler-yap%C4%B1lmal%C4%B1d%C4%B1r/


how can I replace the characters with the turkish ones,

%C5%9Fekeri to şekeri.... no sekeri


Waiting for your answer.