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Paul M
07-22-2006, 10:00 PM
This modification is no longer available or supported.

The ever popular "miserable users" hack for vb 3.6. Basically a way to really annoy anyone you don't want visiting your forum. This version is based on the vb 3.5 version. Credit to Zzed, and KuraFire for the pre 3.5 versions.

When classed as miserable, a member suffers ;

1. Slow response (time delay) on every page (20 to 60 seconds default).
2. A chance they will get the "server busy" message (50% by default).
3. A chance that no search facilities will be available (75% by default).
4. A chance they will get redirected to another preset page (25% & homepage by default).
5. A chance they will simply get a blank page (25% by default).
6. Post flood limit increased by a defined factor (10 times by default).
7. If they get past all this okay, then they will be served up their proper page.

Note: All the above options are set in the vBulletin Options.

To install this hack simply download the xml file to your pc and then import it into vbulletin as a product - then create your 'miserable users' usergroup and set the value of this group, and your preferred other settings, in the hacks settings area (vBulletin Oprions > Miserable Users). To make a member suffer just edit their profile to add them to the miserable users group (it will work as either the primary group or as a secondary group).


History:

v2.10 - First vb 3.6 version, minor changes to code.
v2.11 : Dependancies updated for 3.6.0 Gold.
v2.12 : Updated for Version Checking.

Jim O
07-23-2006, 12:36 PM
First intall! :p

Atakan KOC
07-23-2006, 12:42 PM
Thanks Paul M :)

Snake
07-23-2006, 04:43 PM
Yay finally this has been ported over to 3.6.

Thanks Paulie! :D

Yorixz
07-23-2006, 05:53 PM
What a wonderful plugin, I tried it on a few of my fellow admins, and they got pissed off quite fast - it works like a champ.

It looks like the response delays are multiplied or so, it sometimes took up to two minutes for me until the damned page loaded ;)

FleaBag
07-23-2006, 08:08 PM
My first time with a miserable users hack! Thanks for the release Paul. :)

MGM
07-23-2006, 09:30 PM
I currently have the 3.5 version installed and it seems to be working properly... any reason I should upgrade immediately if there were no feature enhancements?

MGM out

utw-Mephisto
07-23-2006, 09:32 PM
w00t :D

amnesia623
07-23-2006, 09:42 PM
sweet

Paul M
07-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I currently have the 3.5 version installed and it seems to be working properly... any reason I should upgrade immediately if there were no feature enhancements?Nope, not really.

amnesia623
07-23-2006, 10:06 PM
Nope, not really.
I too am using the 3.5 version on RC2.

It was perfect for a problem user I was having. I think this mod should be standard equipment.

MGM
07-23-2006, 11:11 PM
Nope, not really.
Thanks for the quick reply. I look forward to future enhancements and versions then. :)

MGM out

EdQ
07-24-2006, 01:13 AM
Sweet! The old version wasn't working well with RC2.

Craigex
07-26-2006, 11:40 PM
I love it. Its a great mod to install. :)

Mudvayne
07-29-2006, 07:41 PM
Installed on RC3.. Hope 'll work flawless!

Phaedrus
08-10-2006, 03:01 AM
Freaking cool... Downloading.... clicks installed..

Phaedrus
08-10-2006, 03:40 AM
Wow... Tested on my test account. "Miserable" is an understatement...

Paul M
08-10-2006, 04:24 AM
Yes, the default settings are quite fierce.

jw00dy
08-10-2006, 07:03 AM
LOL, I LOVE This hack! Talk about sending a user to HELL :D

*installed*

Mod o. t. Month for sure.

hgb
08-10-2006, 01:12 PM
thx paul

i use www.deadtroll.com for my redirect hehehe :surprised:

Paul M
08-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Mod o. t. Month for sure.You have to be nominated for motm now. :)

jw00dy
08-11-2006, 10:51 PM
Guess it's a good think I nominated this hack then :D Unless clicking the nominate button/link isn't all that's required.

BTW, we have been having a blast just applying the group this applies to (PITA) to some test user accounts. We've gotten quite a good laugh out of it. Can't wait for someone to actually deserve this... :D

Paul M
08-11-2006, 10:57 PM
Guess it's a good think I nominated this hack then :D Unless clicking the nominate button/link isn't all that's required.That's all that is necessary, and thank you. :)

adwade
08-12-2006, 12:11 AM
Thanxx so much for this! I used to run a BBS back in the 80's and we had a mollasses mode. It would make the link (via a modem) appear to run at a slower speed, or hang up on the user, or freeze up, etc. It was so great for troublesome users. And here I trip across THIS! S-w-e-e-t Nominated for Hack of the Month!

jw00dy
08-12-2006, 05:05 AM
That's all that is necessary, and thank you. :)
No, thank you! :cool:

curriertech
08-16-2006, 01:19 PM
I never really had the need for something like this until recently, and I'm soooo glad for it now. :D

*installed*

rinkrat
08-16-2006, 07:11 PM
I like to torture people. I'm funny like dat.

iatbm
08-16-2006, 11:23 PM
This looks promising :D - Installed

The Finman
08-21-2006, 12:52 AM
Thanks for all the versions of Miserable Users you have done Paul! :D

This is by far my favorite vBulletin modification as well as my moderators. :D

I just upgraded to 3.6 and it was the first hack I re-installed.;)

However, I did run into a bit of a conundrum. :confused:

With the 3.6 infraction system I saw no need for the inferno warning mod, that I had modified to let you send them to either the "banned" group or the "Miserable Users" group (generally spammers go straight to banned, but trolls are kind of fun to torture in a sadistic sort of way. :cool: )

But there is no immediate way in the infraction system to choose which group to send them to, although a hack wouldn't be difficult.

Anyway, lack of sleep makes your mind think up strange things. :knockedout:

I was going to damned if I was going to give up my Miserable Users, but I also needed the infraction system to be able to move troublemakers to the banned group.

Anyway, with the infraction system I have it set to issue a permanent ban when a user reaches 100 infractions points.

Somehow I had to figure out a workaround for Miserable Users.

So I made sure that the "Reputation" system was on, and then in Usergroups I went to Registered Users and when I got to User Reputation Permissions I made it so they can't disable "User Reputations by switching the Can Hide Reputation from Others feature to No

on the "Reputation" feature on and then in the registered users usergroup I went to User Reputation Permissions area and set the for all registered members so they can't disable it.

Next I went to User Groups...there I used the drop menu on Registered Users and chose Edit Promotions.

In the Promotion: section I chose Reputation Comparison Type (see image below), and from there I chose the Less Than option from the drop menu.

Next on the Reputation Level I entered -99 ( as I want the person moved to Miserable Users upon reaching -100 reputation points).

On Days Registered and Posts I disabled them by setting them to 0. :cool:

Next on

Promotion Strategy set to Reputation

Promotion Type = Primary Users

Move User to Usergroup to Miserable Users

I also have a usergroup called Privileged Users that can give negative Reputations.

So, in a nutshell I use the Infraction system to start troublemakers on road to being banned, where as with the reputation system it sets them on the pathway to becoming a "Miserable User". :cool:

I'm sure someone else must have thought this up and implemented it...but I hadn't seen it. :cool:

The only thing that could make it better is to be able opt for the board to move them back into Registered Users after "X" amount of time.

Anyway, I have my Miserable Users in effect and privileged members can participate in the troll torturing fun. :cool:

Thanks again! :)

upsetter
08-21-2006, 08:57 AM
I am sorry, but I am confused, I uploaded the file, and I created the 'miserable users' usergroup... and is it just that or how do I make it work with the xml file I uploaded it?...:cross-eyed:

Paul M
08-21-2006, 09:58 PM
You don't upload the xml file - you import it using the product manager.

Phaedrus
08-23-2006, 09:08 PM
What was the update?

Paul M
08-23-2006, 09:59 PM
See the version history.

Gnappy
08-26-2006, 11:59 PM
ty dude, this hack rocks

yesfans
08-28-2006, 06:46 PM
I love this one. Anyway to tweek it so I can load 2 or 3 dif types of MISERABLE selections in my ADMIN OPTIONS. I would love to be able to set up diff things based on the member and how much they annoy me.
For instance I have a user I send directly to another site upon any visit to mine. But other issue members I don't want to go to another site. Any way I can set up another MIS USER hack so I can set that one to just do the basics the hack intends?

Paul M
08-28-2006, 07:34 PM
No, there is no such facility.

coffee
09-05-2006, 05:11 PM
Installed .. Thank you Paul M.

yj_enquirer
09-05-2006, 05:43 PM
Nice1.. such a gr8 hack..

Unfortunately I applied this hack on myself.. i.e. gave myself secondary user group of "miserable users".. hmm.. any way around this... ??

EDIT:
Ok sorted the above.. went and deleted the "miserable users" group id from the SQL database.. (under the field membergroupids)

jw00dy
09-05-2006, 05:45 PM
LMAO, I'm sorry but that's pretty funny.

Paul M
09-05-2006, 07:23 PM
ROFL - not the best idea you had today ......

da420
09-05-2006, 07:55 PM
I did it to myself too, but I had a test account that I set as admin to login to and take myself off.

als95tsi
09-06-2006, 12:30 AM
i import under manage plug ins and it does not create the new usergroup. whats up with that?

edit. nevermind, just figure it out, you create your own user group then assign the id number to the config area for its options, thanks!

clicked install!

HappyPike
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Is this really effective against troublemakers? Wouldn't the users on the miserable users list suspect something is not right with their account and complain to you? Some might found out when they browse as a guest, they don't have those problems.

jailer
09-07-2006, 05:35 PM
lmfao. Paul, you are a genius. What an utterly superb mod.
:D:D

phpdevrus
09-07-2006, 09:46 PM
Excellent mod. Used it on 3.5.4 and now on 3.6 :-)

heh it really annoys and passes the message across that they are not wanted. i love it when I can use their ips instead of just usernames. lol

StrykerGT
09-08-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm testing this mod. I created the usergroup and configured everithing. But the problem that I'm having is most of the time I get the following message

you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Its there any way that the mod doesn't give me this message. That could make the mod obvious.

Paul M
09-08-2006, 04:29 PM
That is down to the permissions you have set in the usergroup you created, this has no effect on them.

StrykerGT
09-08-2006, 05:12 PM
Got it! Thanks I forgot to add the usergroup permissions.

Thanks!

mlucek
09-09-2006, 04:42 AM
:laugh: This is a great mod ! & Hilarious !!

I don't have any miserable users, thankfully .... but now I'm prepared !

smoknz28
09-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Now this sounds like a nice install! ;)

Thanks,
Gonzo

turk1701
09-12-2006, 10:16 AM
Database error in vBulletin 3.6.0:

Invalid SQL:

SELECT text, languageid, special
FROM vb3_phrase AS phrase
LEFT JOIN vb3_phrasetype USING (fieldname)
WHERE phrase.fieldname = 'error'
AND varname = 'toobusy' AND languageid IN (-1, 0, 1);

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number : 2006
Date : Tuesday, September 12th 2006 @ 07:07:44 AM
Script : http://www.hotelblues.com/vb/
Referrer : http://www.hotelblues.com/vb/
IP Address :
Username : test
Classname : vb_database
Is this a real error or is this part of the mod? I got this while testing with my test account. It's set to the Miserable user group as a secondary.

Paul M
09-12-2006, 09:21 PM
That's a "real" error, unrelated to this.

da420
09-12-2006, 10:58 PM
That's a "real" error, unrelated to this.

I'm sorry, but that made me laugh.

Hippycrack
09-18-2006, 03:37 AM
Great Hack!

Kayden
09-26-2006, 08:35 PM
Installed.

dezoris00
10-03-2006, 08:46 PM
Installed great idea.

However I have to add a large improvement idea for the next version.
My moderators and admins, really enjoy messing with people.

I'd love to have the ability to redirect them randomly to fake forums on the board that only that user group can see.

For example when we ban someone the only forum they have access to is one called the Rectum, and it is pink etc.

It would be nice to be able to choose where they are redirected randomly, such as external sites, of my choice.

That would be really cool.

Paul M
10-03-2006, 09:08 PM
The url they get redirected to is set in the options, you can already set it to what you want.

Zetx
10-05-2006, 10:43 AM
What would be the best way to automatically move someone into and out of a "Miserable group"? For example if they lose an arcade challenge they would be sent into the group for 24 hours or some other set interval.

jw00dy
10-05-2006, 04:50 PM
So far this is by far the best mod.

As a request, would it be possible to code different levels of the mod? So we could set higher levels for one group and lower for a different?

Not pressing, just would be very cool addition to have.

Emanet-Kaos
10-06-2006, 11:20 AM
thanks paul

Immortal_Shades
10-06-2006, 11:53 AM
Awesome Installed on vb 3.62

sistem73
10-09-2006, 03:41 PM
please caps help me thank you very much

Paul M
10-09-2006, 04:34 PM
Huh ?

Sownman
10-09-2006, 04:35 PM
Interesting problem here. I had this hack installed through my vers 3.5.x upgrades. Just went to 3.6.1 then 3.6.2. Downloaded this morning and installed to my 3.6.2 as the only hack. Using IE6.0 and xpserv pack 2 I cant edit the parameters of this product without getting an IE error "must shut down" message. I can edit any other VB options item fine but not Miserable Users.

I uninstalled and will try install and edit again from home conputer.

Steve

Doglet
10-13-2006, 09:21 PM
When I put someone in the miserable users group, they show up in the forums leaders page as miserable users. How can I stop that group showing up in forums leaders?

ConqSoft
10-13-2006, 10:51 PM
Edit that usergroup and turn off the option that tells it to show on Forum Leaders.

chorton
10-13-2006, 10:57 PM
Installed! Thanks for a great tool.

Doglet
10-13-2006, 11:30 PM
Edit that usergroup and turn off the option that tells it to show on Forum Leaders.Thanks, missed that one.

NeitherSparky
10-14-2006, 02:56 AM
I should have shared this when I first got it but I didn't think of it until now. Here it is, an example of an email from a Miserable User Without a Clue:

Hello Sparky.
Your new forum is awesome but it's not working. A message allways tells me that the server is busy. You should go back to the proboards forum.

Don't let the politeness fool you; this guy is a major jackass. He's always polite when he wants something.

Thanks Paul. ;)

Nordraserei
10-16-2006, 04:44 AM
I`m using 3.6 and it says there was a problem with the database.

zompus
10-17-2006, 12:21 PM
This is one of my fav mods ever. :)

jw00dy
10-17-2006, 08:02 PM
I'll be honest, I didn't know if I'd ever user this, but loved the idea. We use it ALL the time now.

Snowman_175
11-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Excellent Mod, thank you!

Ati2
11-03-2006, 11:47 AM
Never thought I'd need this, but there's a first time for everything. :D

Great mod, works like a charm. ;) Thanks a lot for it! :)

SloppyGoat
11-04-2006, 12:56 AM
This has to be one of my all time favorites!!! :D

heyitsjeremy
11-04-2006, 12:29 PM
can this accept more than 1 user grp ID ? And for the other user group , i would be able have a different set of miserable settings for it ?

Paul M
11-04-2006, 02:01 PM
Yes I believe you could have more than one group if you wanted, but no, only one set of settings can apply.

heyitsjeremy
11-04-2006, 02:25 PM
Yes I believe you could have more than one group if you wanted, but no, only one set of settings can apply.
not possible to have another set of settings ?

Paul M
11-04-2006, 07:35 PM
Correct.

eliteWade
11-09-2006, 01:17 AM
i absolutely love this hack, lol!!!!! omg, this is teh awesomeness! instead of handing out bans, i'm so using this lol. a-holes will never want to mess with me on my site now, they'll be too busy being frustrated over server load.

Snowman_175
11-10-2006, 11:32 PM
for some reason it has stopped working any ideas?

Paul M
11-11-2006, 01:24 AM
Things don't just stop working, what changes have you made to your set-up.

gazzak
11-16-2006, 06:56 PM
Thanks for this superb mod Paul M. I installed it and tested it on a couple of volunteers, they hated every second of forum use today. This will work out superb against people we don't want coming back. Keep up the good work.

tsadi
11-20-2006, 11:01 AM
great hack Paul M!

had it not been because of the logouthash parameter here:

http://domain.com/forums/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=2a7c27791270a72adea2dd8c9f6d96c0

i would have redirected my miserable users to the logout function just to piss them off even more. :devious:

projectego
11-29-2006, 10:52 PM
Brilliant! I am definitely installing this! :)

Ragnarok
12-06-2006, 03:40 PM
Installed, with intent of driving away undesirables, until I started questioning the ethics of it... still installed, just unsure of what to use it for

basskiller
12-08-2006, 06:32 PM
there is a flaw to this hack that should be addressed.

Even the owner of the board can be put into this usergroup and therefore be banned from his own board.

Just playing around, One of my admins has done this.

da420
12-08-2006, 06:36 PM
there is a flaw to this hack that should be addressed.

Even the owner of the board can be put into this usergroup and therefore be banned from his own board.

Just playing around, One of my admins has done this.

Um, that's not a flaw. Why would you ban the owner of the board by putting him in the miserable users user group? That sounds a lot more like unintelligence more than anything to me.

Paul M
12-08-2006, 06:46 PM
there is a flaw to this hack that should be addressed.

Even the owner of the board can be put into this usergroup and therefore be banned from his own board.

Just playing around, One of my admins has done this.Not a flaw, just not a very bright thing to do - you could just as easily put them in the banned group, but that's not a flaw in vBulletin .....

basskiller
12-08-2006, 06:47 PM
Um, that's not a flaw. Why would you ban the owner of the board by putting him in the miserable users user group? That sounds a lot more like unintelligence more than anything to me.
unintelligent ???? Because we found what we think is a possible flaw????
The senrio I described was goofing around tp see if it could be done.
It's unintelligent to think it can't be done because you don't think someone should do it.



Here let me explain it to you.
Lets say you have a few admins on your site. You get into an arguement with one of them.. He decides he wants to get even with you or whatever.. He puts you in that usergroup.


As a default. The vbulletin script is built so the owner and whomever you wish can not be deleted. This is done through an addition to a PHP file.

This hack hasn't quite circumvented the defult, but has put a huge damper on it

basskiller
12-08-2006, 06:49 PM
Not a flaw, just not a very bright thing to do - you could just as easily put them in the banned group, but that's not a flaw in vBulletin .....

read my other post.. no one sez it's right or unintelligent or a flaw in vbulletin.. it's in the hack itself.. The fact of the matter is.. It can be done..

I guess you don't think some sort of safeguard is warrented.
Oh well I tried

da420
12-08-2006, 06:59 PM
The senrio I described was goofing around tp see if it could be done.
It's unintelligent to think it can't be done because you don't think someone should do it.



Here let me explain it to you.
Lets say you have a few admins on your site. You get into an arguement with one of them.. He decides he wants to get even with you or whatever.. He puts you in that usergroup.


As a default. The vbulletin script is built so the owner and whomever you wish can not be deleted. This is done through an addition to a PHP file.

This hack hasn't quite circumvented the defult, but has put a huge damper on it

I understand your point, but I still think it's unintelligent.

I would never make an admin on board that I did not trust, or thought was that immature that they would do that, so it is unlikely that would happen on my board, and if it did there are ways to gain that access back. Trust me on this, If I was the owner of the board they would no longer be an admin.

Make the owner of the board unalterable in the config.php file in the includes directory, that way their usergroup cannot be changed if it is that bothersome. It's a good idea to do anyways.

I just tried to alter one of my admins that is set to unalterable usergroup to the miserable users user group and I got the correct error message. "Sorry, this user is protected from being altered in the config.php file by the $config['SpecialUsers']['undeletableusers'] variable." If this message does not show then you have an incorrect setting in the config file.

Paul M
12-08-2006, 07:03 PM
The fact of the matter is.. It can be done.. Of course it can be done, lots of things can be done if you want - you can put the "board owner" in the banned usergroup, or delete them entirely if you want - these are not flaws, just misuse.

If you want to stop them then you make the account unalterable - as mentioned above.

hendri
12-17-2006, 10:12 AM
this is very nice hack.. can fight the intruder silently :D

nsusa
12-18-2006, 03:57 AM
If I set the option for "Server busy" to zero - does the miserable user will then not see the server busy screen? I always get the question if the server is busy and would like rather point "the problem" towards the ISP ;)

Chris

Greek76
12-31-2006, 09:37 PM
A question I installed this mod worked great because I had a troubled user so I added him to the miserble group list that I created. The problem now is that a few users snames are not showing up on the who visited and who's on list. Not all but some. So I removed deleted the miserable group list and uninstalled it but still the same problem. I didnt add an ip to the miserable list I just added the user name to the list.

Paul M
12-31-2006, 11:34 PM
If I set the option for "Server busy" to zero - does the miserable user will then not see the server busy screen? I always get the question if the server is busy and would like rather point "the problem" towards the ISP ;)

ChrisIf you set any option to 0 then it will not be used.

Brew
01-01-2007, 01:53 AM
please caps help me thank you very much

This point mine exactly too though. Think me he that understands completely you.

:dead:

---------------------------------------------------------

Now to my own issue :)

I'm trying to make it so moderators can add people to the Miserable Users group. I just can't find the place to set that up.

Can someone tell me how to do that?

Thanks!

Paul M
01-01-2007, 11:42 AM
There is no facility in vb for moderators to add members to usergroups.

Brew
01-01-2007, 02:14 PM
There is no facility in vb for moderators to add members to usergroups.

I've come to that conclusion.

Of course after spending 5 hours of my precious time wading through every setting in vB and through much of it's code and rummaging through a zillion forum posts!

Sometimes, the greatest efforts are spent on the most fruitless endeavors.....

LOL

5IVEO
01-01-2007, 02:41 PM
great feature Paul, Ive got some smartasses on my board who will feel the wrath!;)

Brew
01-01-2007, 03:40 PM
There is no facility in vb for moderators to add members to usergroups.

Something is still bugging me about this.

If this is true then how does a moderator ban people?

Once they are banned are they not put into a new group called 'Banned' or 'Banned Users', aren't they?

Can't this mod do the same thing except place the user into the Miserable Users group?

Sorry if I'm being miserable about this :)

Luky
01-03-2007, 02:06 PM
Woah, what an awesome anti-spammer tool! And its only 2 kb!

Antivirus
01-10-2007, 09:41 PM
Paul, just a quick question about the ip 169.254.1.1 which seems to be a default ip to make miserable users... what / who is it for?

coderphp
01-10-2007, 11:31 PM
excellent!

Paul M
01-11-2007, 08:36 AM
Paul, just a quick question about the ip 169.254.1.1 which seems to be a default ip to make miserable users... what / who is it for?It's an example.

Antivirus
01-11-2007, 02:27 PM
It's an example.

okie - thanks for quick response

yuriy
01-11-2007, 03:57 PM
any screenshots?

Paul M
01-11-2007, 05:34 PM
of what exactly ?

ChrisTech
01-11-2007, 10:46 PM
Has anyone figured out a way to make it so you can add someone to the miserable users usergroup, but have a time limit on it (like a punishment)? As in user xzy was spamming, so they get a 'punishment' of the Miserable Users group for 48 hours.

Or is there a semi-easy way to do this?

Paul M
01-11-2007, 11:37 PM
If you make the MU group a "bannable" group you could 'ban' them to it.

You could probably do it via the infractions banning system as well.

ChrisTech
01-12-2007, 02:43 AM
If you make the MU group a "bannable" group you could 'ban' them to it.

You could probably do it via the infractions banning system as well.

Looking more to using the MU group for a timed punishment. Since the board doesn't use reputation, I don't think we can use the promotions to automatically pull the user back out of the MU group.

Raydar
01-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Great hack Paul, I have used this before on 3.5. I've just installed this on another forum which is 3.6.

I just want to make sure I use this properly. I have uploaded as a product. It shows up in the admin cp options.

Do I now need to create a usergroup called miserable users? And how do I integrate this hack with a user group?

Thanks

Reggie

tinjon
01-13-2007, 01:20 PM
getting this.
A conflict was detected in the bitfields. You cannot continue with the installation of this product until this has been fixed. The conflicts found were:
Bitfield Collision: contact = email

stwilson
01-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Installed on 3.6.4 and I can't wait to use this on a few choice members of mine.

ST

Paul M
01-13-2007, 06:24 PM
getting this.This has no bitfields, so you have a problem elsewhere.

WAHMama
01-16-2007, 08:54 AM
I just installed it, works wonderfully hehe thanks for the terrific hack!

Pure Dope
01-18-2007, 06:09 AM
why not just make it so that they see a hell of a lot more ads?

that would be better than all them time delays, etc.

after all.....ads are one of the best ways to get people to leave your forum...heh.

ceedee
01-19-2007, 03:36 PM
Hi Paul,

Brilliant hack this, thanks very much. One question for you though.

Is it possible to get any user who signs up with the time zone of (GMT -12 Eniwetok, Kwajalein) automatically put in the miserable users usergroup? This would be a HUGE help to me as I get hundreds of spam registrations per week which all have this timezone in common, and if they automatically went into the miserable users group it would make my life so much easier!

Cheers in advance,

Chris

scan-pa
01-19-2007, 03:45 PM
Hi Paul,

Brilliant hack this, thanks very much. One question for you though.

Is it possible to get any user who signs up with the time zone of (GMT -12 Eniwetok, Kwajalein) automatically put in the miserable users usergroup? This would be a HUGE help to me as I get hundreds of spam registrations per week which all have this timezone in common, and if they automatically went into the miserable users group it would make my life so much easier!

Cheers in advance,

Chris

Why not just add the block of IP addresses for that area into the IP MU field?

ceedee
01-19-2007, 03:47 PM
Why not just add the block of IP addresses for that area into the IP MU field?

They are never the same. The IPs used are from all over the globe, the only thing that is common with these registrations is the timezone.

peterpigman
01-24-2007, 11:12 AM
Is it possible to tell if someone is using this hack?

Paul M
01-24-2007, 04:57 PM
Nope, but you could make a good guess.

peterpigman
01-24-2007, 05:46 PM
Nope, but you could make a good guess.

Actually a site I know of is trying to change to a new site but it's members don't want to go. Everyone has had exactly what this is supposed to do for weeks and they are blaming their server etc just seems a bit strange. I was hoping something might show up in the code.

hendri
01-26-2007, 01:32 AM
this is a good hack to make the spammer headache heheh :D

tommyxv
01-27-2007, 04:12 AM
Seems to be kicking back a database errors to users in that group. Running vb 3.6.4.

I tested it with dummy account.

Database error in vBulletin 3.6.4:

Invalid SQL:

UPDATE session
SET lastactivity = 1169871825, inforum = 0, inthread = 0, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0, useragent = 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)'
WHERE sessionhash = '8c591f280e1dc08241ae2ac77f0738d5';

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away Error Number : 2006
Date : Friday, January 26th 2007 @ 11:24:06 PM

Paul M
01-27-2007, 09:48 AM
MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away Error Number : 2006
That is a server/mysql problem.

Been Told
01-27-2007, 03:16 PM
Great hack, just what I needed for a problem user on my forum. :)

GPS_Flex
01-27-2007, 07:51 PM
I love it. No need to ban users right away, just make them leave on thier own.

tommyxv
01-27-2007, 08:03 PM
That is a server/mysql problem.

Wonder if the 25 sec delay is causing mysql to timeout. Every other forum function and hack works fine. I'll have to see if there if there is a setting for mysql that terminates the connection after a certain period of time.

Thanks

Paul M
01-27-2007, 09:33 PM
Check the mysql 'wait_timeout' setting.

rjmjr69
01-28-2007, 07:09 AM
Thank you very nice hack

KevinJB
01-29-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't mean to seem rude, but what exactly is the point of this? To get rid of members you don't want without outright banning them?

peterpigman
01-29-2007, 12:49 AM
I don't mean to seem rude, but what exactly is the point of this? To get rid of members you don't want without outright banning them?

If somebody is pissing you off, you can irritate them back.

akulion
01-29-2007, 06:54 AM
thanks for this :D

I need to use this on a few users :D hehe

Hellsfire
02-05-2007, 03:48 AM
OMG I have to try this LOL

Muellmann
02-05-2007, 05:03 PM
:cool: Exactely what i often need! You did a very good job on that, thanks much!

Realm of Horror Comics
02-10-2007, 08:04 AM
Where can I get this hack for 3.5.x?

Thanks.

Mudvayne
02-10-2007, 08:44 AM
Where can I get this hack for 3.5.x?

Thanks.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=93258

wrang
02-10-2007, 09:30 AM
Can i use this to IP numbers to or MAC adresses?

Paul M
02-10-2007, 11:02 AM
You canot use it for mac addresses.

Realm of Horror Comics
02-10-2007, 02:36 PM
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=93258

Thank you. :D :up:

Unmutual
02-10-2007, 04:38 PM
Many thanks!

Rick Grunwald
02-11-2007, 07:27 PM
I've hit an issue. My primary user group is Administrator (vb default) I can upload fine as it is set to unlimited. If I ad other usergroups with upload restrictions I am so restricted i.e. it over rides the Administrator uploading privelidges.

I have traced it back to this plugin. If it is installed I get the above behavior if I uninstall I can belong to several restricted groups and Administrator settings again are in effect

Paul M
02-11-2007, 08:43 PM
It is impossible for this to affect any permissions.

Rick Grunwald
02-11-2007, 09:40 PM
The permissions in some of the usergroups are over riding the main user group (at least the uploading settings)
I noticed it a couple of weeks ago when I could no longer upload due to having reached my limit. When I unchecked some user groups I was in the ability to upload came back. The only things I have installed were 1) this plugin 2) a smilies-category plutin and 3) VBPortal

The cause may be something else but as of now uninstalling this hack fixes the issue and reinstalling brings back the issue. It may be something else I have done as I am not that good with all this. I am stopping short of saying the issue came in with the last VB upgrade (3.6.4) I just don't know. I am not insiting that this plugin is the issue, just seeing if anyone else is having the issue or perhaps some direction.
Thanks

Sparkie123
02-14-2007, 10:32 PM
Installed as described, tested and it worked at first.

Now my site will not load and displays the error Fatal error: Call to undefined function: isbanned() in /var/www/vhosts/ex-alcoa.co.uk/httpdocs/global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 145

Any ideas what this could be, i've tried uninstalling the miserable users mod but get the same error :mad:

Help! :confused:

Sparkie123
02-15-2007, 04:59 AM
Issue now resolved with the help of vbulletin support.

Miserable users not at fault now reinstalled :)

macahs
02-18-2007, 05:08 AM
Installed :)

TigerWare
02-23-2007, 07:43 PM
Most useful to annoy the trolls. :up:

Installed, many thanks!

deb0
02-25-2007, 02:37 AM
U Rock! This is one of my favorite mods.

leftie
03-13-2007, 08:05 AM
Installed, thanks.

daddygrim
03-21-2007, 02:05 AM
installed

Raydar
04-01-2007, 06:32 AM
Great hack. I just want to check something.

When I create a usergroup for this, I goto>add usergroup>create usergroup based off usergroup>registered members>

But down the bottom is another setting called

>Create Permissions Based off of Usergroup

Is there a difference?

What I want to do, is have miserable users having the same access as a normal registered user, but with obviously the miserable user features.

At the moment I have just put this guys IP into the settings window, but for practicality I would prefer to set his usergroup status to miserable.

Any pointers on the correct way of doing this are welcome.

Thanks

Reggie

Paul M
04-01-2007, 10:40 AM
I believe the fist option sets up the usergroup settings to match those of the group you picked, while the second option sets the forum permissions for that usergroup. Normally you would set both to the same if duplicating a usergroup.

juan71287
04-03-2007, 02:11 AM
I LOVE YOU. I hate this dude in my clans forum and I cant delete him or ban him cause he is a clan member.. BUT I can sure f**k him up with this :)!

sharego
04-03-2007, 02:59 AM
Can see where this will be useful. :D

NaughtyStud
04-08-2007, 01:22 AM
Very cool Mod, Thanks . ;)

giovannicosta
04-09-2007, 04:57 PM
Fantastic :D

Keyser S?ze
04-13-2007, 02:30 PM
an idea: when someone is set to miserable, it plants a cookie in them, and so even when they log out, unless they clear cookies, they are still miserable, even as a guest

da420
04-13-2007, 07:47 PM
an idea: when someone is set to miserable, it plants a cookie in them, and so even when they log out, unless they clear cookies, they are still miserable, even as a guest

How can they log out if their page won't load?

Paul M
04-14-2007, 12:14 AM
Logging out clears your cookies.

You can add their IP which means they will suffer when not logged in.

Keyser S?ze
04-14-2007, 12:42 AM
ok then what about when u add someone to miserable, it auto adds their IP as well, or a checkbox to "add ip?"

Konstantinos
05-02-2007, 11:38 AM
are there any plans for this mod instead of creating usergroups and move members simply to be able to add a miserable user by his username or id without changing him usergroup ? can u add this ?

Paul M
05-02-2007, 11:47 PM
Nope, there are no plans to rewrite this.

PoetJA-1975
05-05-2007, 04:27 AM
Thanx ;)

Jacquii.

Mrdby
05-12-2007, 03:13 AM
3.6.6.?

Paul M
05-12-2007, 08:44 AM
vB Version: 3.6.x .....

juan71287
05-14-2007, 10:48 PM
Mrdby just try it, it might work :)

dknelson
05-16-2007, 11:26 PM
Quick question. I just installed this and then when I looked at the options, there is already an IP address listed there. Should there be one there by default?

Paul M
05-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Yes, it's a dummy address.

v12kid
05-25-2007, 05:33 AM
installed to help keep this one member we have in check, he creates multiple accts under different ips so this mod will keep all his aliases "miserable" thanks!

dope15gd
05-25-2007, 06:50 AM
I used to love this option from a while ago on a few sites I visited.

I'm going to be installing this sometime soon

thanks

David Lama
06-13-2007, 08:17 PM
thanks

how do i get it to work though? it doesnt seem to be working :(

deezelpope
06-13-2007, 08:59 PM
<i>Just curious why you think it isn't working...put yourself in the Miserable usergroup, and try it once...hehehe.</i>

RvG2
06-16-2007, 01:04 PM
I have activated this mod but I feel that it also affects other members who are not included in miserable list. :(

not sure but kindly advs how to use this... :)

Paul M
06-16-2007, 01:08 PM
As it says ;

To make a member suffer just edit their profile to add them to the miserable users group (it will work as either the primary group or as a secondary group).

BobbyBig
06-16-2007, 07:08 PM
Paul M how about an ip range for the "Miserable IP addresses".

like:

164.172.
192.122.

For what I see that doesnt work.
It is badly required for us.

Captain Kirk76
06-16-2007, 08:40 PM
This is an awesome mod, it should come pre-installed with vBulletin as an addon to the Tachy Goes to Coventry stuff :p

Jimandbob
06-16-2007, 09:14 PM
Paul M how about an ip range for the "Miserable IP addresses".

like:

164.172.
192.122.

For what I see that doesnt work.
It is badly required for us.


Works great for me. you are leaving the last dot in though.
"Partial ip ranges are possible (do not enter any trailing dots)."

So use:
164.172
192.122

Paul M
06-16-2007, 09:16 PM
Paul M how about an ip range for the "Miserable IP addresses".

like:

164.172.
192.122.

For what I see that doesnt work.
It is badly required for us.

Take the dots off the end.

164.172
192.122

Alfa1
06-20-2007, 04:07 PM
Is it possible to have two miserable users member groups, with different settings?

Paul M
06-20-2007, 06:24 PM
Nope.

YLP1
06-22-2007, 03:07 PM
Will the usergroup permissions from the primary override the secondary usergroup permissions? I ask because I created a new miserable usersgroup and am using that as a secondary for my miserable members.

I don't see how there is any way to change the primary usergroup member to my miserable member group without them noticing that their member group changed.

deezelpope
06-22-2007, 03:09 PM
You can use HTML mark-up on their usernames...that's how I did it. Registered users and Miserable users have the same color names!! Works great!!:D

YLP1
06-22-2007, 03:22 PM
For example...say I have a community member (I don't use HTML markup on the usernames) and then a member of the community member usergroup acts up enough to have miserable users applied. Using the miserable usergroup as a secondary would work without changing the member of the community member primary usergroup to the miserable usersgroup?

Gosh...say that 10 times in a row!! LOL What a tongue twister! LOL

Paul M
06-22-2007, 04:05 PM
This has no effect on usergroup permissions, they will work as they normally do.

YLP1
06-22-2007, 04:13 PM
This has no effect on usergroup permissions, they will work as they normally do.


So, just to be clear....If miserable usersgroup is checked as the secondary on any member, then that member will be affected by this mod regardless of what their primary usergroup designation is? Correct?

Paul M
06-22-2007, 04:15 PM
Correct.

YLP1
06-22-2007, 04:39 PM
Thank you Paul.... You see I dyed my hair blonder and well it's harder for me to follow simple instructions now! LOL LOL

Paul M
06-22-2007, 07:10 PM
Thank you Paul.... You see I dyed my hair blonder and well it's harder for me to follow simple instructions now! LOL LOL:D

.

tillcat5
06-26-2007, 12:09 AM
i have imported the file and made a usergroup but there is no miserable user section in my vb options.. can ya help me out? this looks great

im running 3.6.7

Paul M
06-26-2007, 11:55 AM
Import it again, it sounds like it didn't import properly to me.

Mrdby
06-28-2007, 03:04 PM
love it!!!!

tycity
06-29-2007, 05:30 AM
This thing works like a charm - thanks!

mlomenzo
06-29-2007, 02:39 PM
This is the best thing ever for a sick:mad: twisted F**k like me. ((:DSmiles for the first time in decades))

Thanks

military-space
06-30-2007, 07:24 PM
This has come in quite handy. Thank you!

cheat-master30
06-30-2007, 07:38 PM
I really like this option, as in my opinion, it is far harsher than a ban and a much more sane way to change a jerk into a helpful member. Already have had mods ask to test it, and am trying it on an annoying member.

Rickeo
07-04-2007, 07:45 PM
Just what I needed gets me out of a really sticky situation with a member thank you so much :D:D:D:D

ninjamaster
07-06-2007, 09:03 AM
thanks for this :)

BigDog56
07-10-2007, 04:53 PM
Installed, works great! Thank you, nice mod!

pakomen
07-21-2007, 01:36 PM
This is really f****d up but I love the concept. hahaha.

Kaycee123
08-02-2007, 03:01 AM
We installed this on our website and set one of our users as "miserable". Within a few days, he sent us a message with a screenshot of a listing for "Miserable users" with his name as the only one listed.

How is this possible??? I have been unable to find ANYWHERE on the regular website where this is listed. Is there any way he could have seen this listed somewhere without having access to our Admin Control panel somehow??

We have reason to believe that this user (now banned) is very skilled with computers. He has caused a lot of problems in the past while for us.

leeman
08-02-2007, 05:56 AM
We installed this on our website and set one of our users as "miserable". Within a few days, he sent us a message with a screenshot of a listing for "Miserable users" with his name as the only one listed.

How is this possible??? I have been unable to find ANYWHERE on the regular website where this is listed. Is there any way he could have seen this listed somewhere without having access to our Admin Control panel somehow??

We have reason to believe that this user (now banned) is very skilled with computers. He has caused a lot of problems in the past while for us.


I think you have to set the Miserable users group to "no show" .

I have and they don't show ..

And what I did and do is that I put the ppl that are supposed to be miserable in the miserable users group as a SECONDARY group ... Not primary ...

Kaycee123
08-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Okay, thanks for that - yes it was set for that group to show under "View Forum leaders" - that must be where he saw it.

Perhaps this shouldn't be an option for a mod like this - it doesn't make much sense to set someone as a "Miserable user" and then have them be able to find out that you've done it. Its easy to miss one small thing like that in the settings!!

WiseOne38221
08-02-2007, 11:37 PM
omG, this is AWESOME! I will never ban again! Miserable Users, here I come, LMAO! EXCELLENT Mod! Bravo!

Videx
08-03-2007, 02:41 AM
I think you have to set the Miserable users group to "no show"I hope someone is going to tell us how to do this?

it was set for that group to show under "View Forum leaders" - that must be where he saw it.You put a moderator in MU?

deezelpope
08-03-2007, 10:55 AM
<i>Have you read this thread over, Videx? The answers are all there. You've gotta create a new usergroup for this mod, and in usergroup options, you'll choose whether or not this group will be viewable on Show Groups...this option sets whether or not they'll show on the 'View Forum Leaders' page.</i>

Videx
08-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Thanks Deezel; I guess I must have because mine is set to 'no'. But that really should be in the installation instructions, not buried somewhere in 14 pages of a discussion thread.

And it still doesn't seem to answer Kaycee's question. Unless they really did put a moderator in MU, which seems unlikely.

0ptima
08-05-2007, 12:43 AM
Does this affect server load?

Paul M
08-05-2007, 11:46 AM
Every plugin affects server load, you would have a hard time actually measuring any change from this though.

0ptima
08-05-2007, 02:01 PM
Every plugin affects server load, you would have a hard time actually measuring any change from this though.

Great that is what I wanted to hear! Great hack!

teemuki
08-07-2007, 05:58 AM
Great addon :) Thanks,
I've been LMAO for a last couple of hours. The thing works almost like a charm, although it seems that I cannot make the Miserable Users -group override the standard user title when the user is moved to Miserable_users.
All the miserability functions seem to work fine

~Teemuki

Videx
08-07-2007, 08:31 AM
I've been LMAO for a last couple of hours. The thing works almost like a charm, although it seems that I cannot make the Miserable Users -group override the standard user title I don't know what you find so funny? When we put users in MU it's because they've been causing quite a bit of trouble.

Anyway, you have the whole concept wrong if you think you want user titles to show someone is in MU. The idea is to discourage them from posting until they sober up or calm down. Knowing they're being disciplined isn't going to help the situation.

teemuki
08-07-2007, 09:59 AM
I don't know what you find so funny?

Maybe it's just my twisted sense of humor.
Well, I just thought that it would be useful to other, well behaving users to see that someone has been put under MiserablaUsers-curse.

Thanks for pointing me to the right direction.

pictureboarduk
08-08-2007, 10:43 PM
Has Paul M the creator of this hack ever made it so that you can add an IP (Guest) address into the miserable user group?

That would be a great feature.

Thanks..

Kaycee123
08-09-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks Deezel; I guess I must have because mine is set to 'no'. But that really should be in the installation instructions, not buried somewhere in 14 pages of a discussion thread.

And it still doesn't seem to answer Kaycee's question. Unless they really did put a moderator in MU, which seems unlikely.


No, he wasn't a moderator, just a regular user - is there somewhere else he could have seen this??? This has really gotten us worried about the security of our board, because this person has caused us all sorts of problems - he was using multiple IP addresses and has tried to sign up since being banned with different name/email address/etc. He actually posted a screenshot of himself listed as Miserable User -- how could he have seen this?? This was NOT just a guess on his part, although he figured it out very quickly, within a day or two of us setting him to that category.

Also, I have been unable to find the "Show Forum Leaders" list anywhere on my board - where exactly is it??

He has also managed to make myself come up as sharing several of the same IP address as him (even though there have been no posts made under those IP addresses). We've also been getting DDoS attacks on our other servers, over 3.5 million hits in 12 hours, and we assume its from this same person.

Anyone got any ideas about how this person has done these things???? We're pretty concerned about the safety of our board.:confused::(

wickland
08-09-2007, 01:54 AM
HAHAHA! This is HILARIOUS, are you telling me that if I have some moron on my forum, I can make it redirect him to a naked guy on a different website? LOL YUSS!

:D

Paul M
08-09-2007, 12:19 PM
Has Paul M the creator of this hack ever made it so that you can add an IP (Guest) address into the miserable user group?

That would be a great feature.

Thanks..
Allthough it's not mentioned, the option to add an IP address is part of this mod already.

HAHAHA! This is HILARIOUS, are you telling me that if I have some moron on my forum, I can make it redirect him to a naked guy on a different website? LOL YUSS!

:D
Yes, you could do that.

Also, I have been unable to find the "Show Forum Leaders" list anywhere on my board - where exactly is it??
showgroups.php

Anyone got any ideas about how this person has done these things???? We're pretty concerned about the safety of our board.:confused::(
Sounds a bit like they have got into one of your moderators accounts, either by guessing the password or managing to steal thier session/login cookies.

Kaycee123
08-10-2007, 04:12 AM
Sounds a bit like they have got into one of your moderators accounts, either by guessing the password or managing to steal thier session/login cookies.


Is there something we can do to prevent someone from stealing session/login cookies?? I've read through everything on here that I could find on security and have tried to implement the things suggested, but obviously its not enough.

This guy has gotten into a lot of info that he was not supposed to have. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

Paul M
08-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Please start a new thread in the main forum to ask such questions, they are not related to support of this modification. Thanks. :)

BobbyBig
08-20-2007, 08:56 PM
Is it possible to add a part from the Host Name to the "Miserable IP addresses" ?
We badly want to get someone using a very unique Host Name but with a much used ip range. So Banning his Host Name would be best way doing it.

Example: dslb-068-062-077-109.pools.edanis-hosting.net

So we would like to look for "edanis-hosting.net" as a part from his Host Name.
Also looking IP-Range + HOST NAME is better than just looking for IP-Range.

regards

Paul M
08-20-2007, 10:01 PM
Sorry, there is no such facility in this.

pierguy
08-29-2007, 01:33 PM
Hehe. Oh man, this thing is just evil.

Question: When I set perms for the "Miserable Users" usergroup, do those perms override the primary usergroup that person is assigned to?

I have different levels of perms (hidden forums, etc.) based on how long you've been around and don't want to have members whose perms have changed getting suspicious. The only thing I want to change is how much their experience on my board suddenly sucks ;)

Paul M
08-29-2007, 08:06 PM
Don't give the MU group any permissions and it can't override anything.

pierguy
08-30-2007, 07:04 PM
Works like a charm.

I'd suggest adding the above to the documentation: It's recommended that you remove all perms from the MU usergroup, then assign MU as the secondary usergroup to the person you want to drive insane. That will leave their site permissions unchanged.

Awesome hack, BTW. Already driving one troll nuts :p

jimjam
09-07-2007, 06:32 PM
I have imported the xml and everything seem fine, but there in no MU group anywhere, where is it, and how do i put idiots in it.

Thanks in anticipation

Paul M
09-07-2007, 07:08 PM
As the notes in the first post say, you must create that group (yourself).

Ronseal
09-10-2007, 09:05 PM
What a disaster..... I installed this mod, configured it as advised, and tested it to find it worked a treat, untill that is..... 10mins after I'd assigned my 'pain in the arse' member to the group, I realised they could see all my Private Forums.

I created the 'Miserable User' (15) group to be the same as the 'Regsitered Users' (2) group, and I assign Miserable users to this new group as an 'Additional Usergroup' rather than their primary. In the vBulletin Options/Miserable Users I set 'Usergroup id' to 15.

Any Ideas, cos I haven't a clue what's wrong? I'm now a laughing stock in my forum......

Alibass
09-10-2007, 09:16 PM
@Ronseal

Go into your forum permissions and setup your forums you want your miserable group to see or not to see.

Paul M
09-10-2007, 09:19 PM
I guess you didn't actually create the usergroup with the same forum permissions.

There are two options in the New Usergroup screen - the one at the top (Create Usergroup Based off of Usergroup). That sets the basic usergroup permissions. However, at the bottom of the screen is the "Create Permissions Based off of Usergroup:". That is the one that set's identical forum permissions and is probably what you overlooked.

Ronseal
09-10-2007, 09:34 PM
You're quite right Paul, I did over look the two options you've listed above as I just used the 'Add New Usergroup' option within the 'Usergroup Manager' a created the usergroup manually, replicating the 'Registered Users' group.

However after your comment I deleted the group (15) and created a new 'Miserable Users' group using the 'Create Permissions Based off of Usergroup' option within 'Add New Usergroup' to see what happened and I'm afraid it's just the same. My test 'Registered User' can still see my 'Private Forums'.

Ronseal
09-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Thanks for the input Alibass, but in the 'Forum Permissions' for my 'Private Forums' every check box is set to 'No'.

Ronseal
09-10-2007, 09:54 PM
I've just un-installed this Mod as it also seemed to override the category permissions of my 'Photopost Classifieds' install and once again made the hidden from 'Registered Users' visable.

This is a great Mod, but it doesn't seem to like my forum too much at present. Hopefully I'll reinstall in again when I can figure out where the conflict lays.

Alibass
09-10-2007, 10:07 PM
Thanks for the input Alibass, but in the 'Forum Permissions' for my 'Private Forums' every check box is set to 'No'.

Hopefully you can find your conflict. This is a great mod, I have been using it since Feb of this year and I have 45 hacks installed now on 3.6.8 version.

Paul M
09-10-2007, 10:34 PM
This has no ability to override any forum permissions - the issue must be in your usergroup or forum permission settings somewhere.

Ronseal
09-11-2007, 07:50 AM
Hi All..... and thanks for being patient with me!

Okay, I've had some success. I reinstalled the XML, created a 'Miserable User' group using the 'Create Permissions Based off of Usergroup' function but then manually set all it's permissions to 'No' as it will only ever be assigned as an 'Additional Usergroup'. This is now made my 'Private Forums' private once more. I didn't have to change the forum permissions because they were inherited from the 'Registered Users' group. Hope this makes sense....

As for my install if Photopost Classifieds and Photopost Gallery, that all I needed to do to sort the problem was to use the 'Refresh Usergroups from your Forum Software' tool within 'Edit Usergroups' and ensure that the hidden category within the Classifieds had it's checkbox unticked for 'Miserable Users'...... job done!

I'm still not assigning my annoying member back to the group quite yet..... a bit more testing to do but so far so good, thanks All. :)

blackvborg
09-16-2007, 08:38 AM
Hi,
in my forum very often happens that a user moved to MU or to banned user group sign up again the board with a different email.

I've found very useful for a chat I developed to store a cookie on the user'pc so if someone banned (moved to MU) signup again we know it has already joined in the past and banned (moved to MU) so we can ban it again automatically (move to MU automatically)

In the past I created something like MU and it works much better then banning; so I would like very much to have an user automatically moved to MU if a cookie in his computer "says" it was a miserable user in the past.

For smarter users deleting the cookies there is another solution (90% effective):
It could be very useful to keep a list of the last IPs used by MU (associated with the timestamps of the last time they were online) so if someone join the board with an IP in this list and less then XX seconds were passed from its last visit you can move him automatically to MU

I think that these 2 suggestion can give terrific power to this mod :)

Thank you!

CThiessen
09-16-2007, 08:55 AM
Hi,
You could use this Mod to do that.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1085503
Description
When an user registers, this plugin checks for the cookie that the AE Detector sets, if it exists, then this plugin will move the user to a specified usergroup (default is to the (COPPA) Users Awaiting Moderation usergroup). This will now check the user's IP address upon registration, and if it matches any others, it will place them in the Multiple Account (MA) usergroup . Also you have the option to ban the new account if the old account was banned.


I allready had some users placing themselves into the MU group.

Christian

blackvborg
09-16-2007, 09:25 PM
Hi Chris,
thanks for the suggestion; at the moment I've installed Multiple Account Login Detector (AE Detector) but not yet the mod you suggested; I'm waiting to know if it works with vb 3.6.8 - it seems that the mod you suggested is no more supported; some users say that there are bugs and the author don't post for long time.

BTW some basic features of the 2 mods could be included in this mod - I know it's better to avoid duplicate of functionality, but having tens of mods create a bit of mess with board management :)

BTW Thank you, I'm sure I'll catch many alter-egos :)

mishb68
09-17-2007, 11:16 AM
I've installed this mod, set up the user group etc and put my test user into the MU group, but no matter what I do with hack settings, I only get the server error each time. I've set it to 10%, 0% but it makes no difference. The test MU can't get to see the page at all.

Any suggestions?

mishb68
09-23-2007, 02:36 PM
Hello?

Paul M
09-23-2007, 09:23 PM
Post a screenshot of your settings.

mishb68
09-24-2007, 09:59 AM
Post a screenshot of your settings.

screen shot:

Paul M
09-24-2007, 10:58 AM
There is nothing wrong with those settings (allthough 50% is a bit high)

When you say "the server error", what exactly do you mean ?.

mishb68
09-24-2007, 11:06 AM
There is nothing wrong with those settings (allthough 50% is a bit high)

When you say "the server error", what exactly do you mean ?.

No matter if I make it 50%, 10% or 0% the MU only ever gets a server error and can never get through to the board.

Screenshot attached:

Paul M
09-24-2007, 12:01 PM
That's not an error generated by this mod, that's a general page not available error.

mishb68
09-24-2007, 01:03 PM
That's not an error generated by this mod, that's a general page not available error.

But it only happens when I put someone in the MU category. Any idea why this would be?

punchbowl
09-24-2007, 01:07 PM
sorry to interrupt but I love this mod and especially love using it on people posting complaints about the forum running slowly or whatever

thanks again - a great de-stresser!

mishb68
09-24-2007, 01:09 PM
I love it too, even though it doesn't work properly for me :(

I just wish I knew why it doesn't. I don't have a lot of mods on my board so I doubt it is clashing with anything.