View Full Version : ip/user banning Emergency?
aveon
07-11-2006, 07:13 PM
hello mates
i have a trouble with baning users i have this user on my wes site he alway comes online and swears to people from shaout box or he writes them onto message im keep bannin his user name and ip but he always changes his ip and registers and do the same acts so i saw one smf web site they bannin users computer ip and when they do that there is no way that the user ceen get in to site from this ip so is how can i get peoples computer ip or is there any other hack that can do the same trick to get me rid of this people i want to ban this users for ewet from that computer so please help me out guys thanx...
Wired1
07-11-2006, 07:17 PM
is he using the same email address? If not, is the domain name the same for each email address he is using?
aveon
07-11-2006, 07:24 PM
no man he has tones of email adresses i banned all his email adresses but no luck i need something that will ban him for ever like i need to learn his computer ip which he canot change unlef formattin the computer so how can i find it and then i tried bennin my friends ip for try from the vb user banning options but it didnt work he could still logg in write messages and ewey thin i really need help on this great coders if you guys make a hack like this it will help so many people thanx...
kewalt
07-11-2006, 07:39 PM
no man he has tones of email adresses i banned all his email adresses but no luck i need something that will ban him for ever like i need to learn his computer ip which he canot change unlef formattin the computer so how can i find it and then i tried bennin my friends ip for try from the vb user banning options but it didnt work he could still logg in write messages and ewey thin i really need help on this great coders if you guys make a hack like this it will help so many people thanx...
use the miserable user hack. he'll think your site is broken.
aveon
07-11-2006, 07:44 PM
you dont understand me
i dont need to make him think something i need to ban him for ever that he can never go into the site again thanx
lucky123
07-11-2006, 07:54 PM
the miserable user hack is great. It makes THEM want to leave
When you ban someone sometimes that just makes them even more determined to come to your site and cause trouble.
The miserable users hack is so great because they aren't banned but can't get in so they get frustrated and just decide to leave. Try it
Wired1
07-11-2006, 08:19 PM
Use real ip when proxy server is detected:
3.5.4 version: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=95198
3.6.0 version: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=120082
aveon
07-11-2006, 11:54 PM
this hacks wont help me i need something that will ban this guy out of my forum for ewer come on guys i really need help on this is there ay other good way to ban ip adresses the Paul M's proxy IP address plugin wont work it only shows some users it wont help me the miserable users hack wont stop him to post or write shouts
Kirk Y
07-12-2006, 01:24 AM
There's no "computer IP" -- there's an IP address and a MAC address, I believe, but you can't ban that on vB. Unfortunately Aveon, you're preaching to the choir; we've all at point or another experienced this very same problem and we've all reached the same conclusion: it's more time-consuming to find ways of banning people than it is to just leave them unbanned. The hacks and recommendations posted by the peope in this thread are about as good as it gets, there's really no 100% way of banning people, that is -- that I've heard of.
Reeve of shinra
07-12-2006, 01:42 AM
In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
Talisman
07-12-2006, 02:12 AM
We do understand, aveon. As acidburn said, that's a problem we've all had to deal with and we know what a hassle this is. But if someone is reasonably tech-minded and determined to keep changing IP addresses, email accounts, and uses anonymous surfing tools/proxies to get back to your site ... then you can't effectively ban him or her forever.
As a temporary measure, you can wipe out that person's regional area by using global IP banning (as in banning the first few number sets of their IP string). For example, if your pest uses IP addresses that always trace back to wannado.fr -- then ban all the IP ranges registered to that provider for a limited period of time and HOPE he/she decides to give up and -- maybe -- goes off to hassle someone else. Just remember to remove those bans later on because nobody else using that provider can visit your site then, either. In the long run, this hurts your community, plus the fact that your focus is still directed toward this problem and not where it needs to be as a site admin/community leader.
Even resorting to this sort of 'drastic' level of banning, though, won't ensure he/she can't come back. Your troublemaker can still get past this ban if they know how. You truly cannot stop someone who wants get back in by banning them, alone.
What you can do to eventually stop the pest is to implement a few different measures that will make it harder and less satisfying for them to continue their fight.
1. Use the "miserable users" hack. That defeats the purpose for them to register new accounts over and over to get in because they THINK they have a valid account registered now that you didn't shut down, yet. Set the time-outs and error messages to be not very severe to start with. And post a few messages to the full membership saying you've heard complaints about server problems -- ask them to let you know if they experience problems logging on or viewing the site. Mention that you keep trying to resolve the server problem. This makes you come across as friendly, welcoming, and helpful all the while you're misleading your pest into thinking you don't know he/she is still there. (No damage done here.) Then gradually increase the errors/time-out to a point that he almost never gets through. It takes time, but this truly works.
2. If you have a group that's reasonably active and is large enough to sustain itself, then close the site to new member registrations for a month (or so). Invite visiting guests to check back later when you will be accepting new members, again. (This is rather drastic and can hurt the community badly if it's a new-ish community that can't live without new members for a while. If your community is really hot and in great demand, though... it won't harm anything doing this for short periods.) In the mean time, your pest might move on to play his/her games elsewhere and forget to come back after you.
3. If you moderate all new member accounts, this gives you time to examine new registrant's IP address, config data, email domains, and such BEFORE you give them access to post, pm, view, etc.
Try all the measures you can to make this too difficult for him/her to keep coming back in combination with each other and it will work... eventually.
Good luck, aveon. And let us know how this works out for you.
aveon
07-12-2006, 03:29 AM
no luck guys i tried ewerythink i can i cant shut down site for registering because i dont have many members this guy keep writing those messages and then he is making my users unconfortable if vbulletin doesnt have anything to keep out these kind of guys its to bad i cant keep trackin this guy down for ewer but im sure he wont stop doing it what can i do nothing farewell thanx to all of you for your helps
Kirk Y
07-13-2006, 09:07 PM
It's not just vBulletin. You could go get Invision, phpBB, Mambo, etc, and you'll still have the same problem. There is just no way to permanently ban a technically saavy person from a website, or forum as the case may be.
The only other option that I can think of is if you can get this guy's IP Address and hostname then try calling/emailing his Internet Provider. Detail to them all of spam posts that he's been generating on your forum and what not. Most likely they'll take action that will, AFAIK, make it more difficult for him to access your website.
slappy
07-13-2006, 09:15 PM
How many New Registered Users do you have on an average day? You could always send all New User's Posts, until they have X number of Posts, to the Moderation Que and then his posts (as a New User) would never make it into the Threads.
In one of the Forums I administer, NO New Registered User's Posts appear until I approve them personally and they go into the Moderation Que until they have 3 "approved" Posts. Guests are not allowed to Post.
You can rename your 'Registered Users' usergroup to 'Newbies' (or whatever you want). To have all posts of this usergroup moderated. Set 'Follow Forum Moderation Rules' in the Usergroup -> Forum Viewing Permissions -> 'Follow Forum Moderation Rules -> No. You can then automatically move users to a second usergroup that's not moderated using a Usergroup Promotion after X posts.
So if you don't have too many New Registered Users each day, you can moderate all their new posts and this "problem" user can not keep re-registering and posting before you can catch his posts. After you have approved Three Posts (or however many you want) the "newly registered users" are automatically promoted into a non-automatically moderated status.
Regards,
Borgs8472
07-13-2006, 09:45 PM
^ ^
agreed. And considering banning temporily the email domains they're signing up with, e.g. hotmail.
TMM-TT
07-15-2006, 11:44 AM
i dont need to make him think something i need to ban him for ever that he can never go into the site again thanx
Does the trolltracker meet your requirements?
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=119695
Guest210212002
07-15-2006, 11:23 PM
You can also ban IP's directly via apache/.htaccess.
http://www.clockwatchers.com/htaccess_block.html
As a side note, you do realize just how rude you're being when people keep offering you help and you respond that you're looking for "good coders" instead of the many solutions already presented to you, right? There is no big red button that you can just push to solve all of your problems. You're going to have to learn to run vBulletin and your webserver, period. I normally wouldn't say anything like this but the last time I helped you, you did the same thing.
aveon
07-16-2006, 03:04 AM
yo man im sorry but if there was a bully like the one in my site at your site you wold do the same think lilt bit more understandind and youll get what im meaning ok thanx for your helps mates
Gunshot
07-16-2006, 04:02 AM
its not that difficult
you just have to be as relentless as they are and use a multi-pronged counter attack
ban usernames, emails, ban Ips at the software and the server, use tachy goes to coventry, complain to his ISP
definately use "miserable users"......this is very powerful
I like redirecting them to some nasty websites with harmful scripts.....i have also redirected them to test sites and put them into "miserable" there also....they keep pinging back and forth.
if you keep after them they will give up
remember.....if they are using proxy's it means their browser will be loading painfully slow and posting is like pulling teeth...so if you immediately take them out they have to start over
TMM-TT
07-16-2006, 09:26 AM
We have a few users that in some reason doesn't like us that always coming back after a while when they got banned. They are sneaking around and doesn't do anything except for annoying us. If we could prevent that banned users can't reach the site at all, they won't be able to register new accounts either. The trolltracker linked above got a new function yesterday that works like ipbanning, but instead of trying to track down a banned user and ban their ip's, it checks users/guest against the built in banlist. If there's a match, it doesn't matter if the user is a guest or logged in - they can't see anything except "You're banned" and why they were banned.
aveon
07-17-2006, 04:08 PM
You can also ban IP's directly via apache/.htaccess.
http://www.clockwatchers.com/htaccess_block.html
thanx for your help this will help me and i tried that i banned my ip and it worked but when i reset my modem i was able to log in again do u have any idea how can i find i stable ip adress to ban thanx
CyberRanger
07-17-2006, 04:23 PM
... how can i find i stable ip adress to ban thanxTo echo the excellent information you've already been provided, there is no such thing as a stable ip address that you can ban. You can only follow the instructions you've already been given.
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