A vBSpace solution

[vBintense]

I know myself I am in need of one, and willing to code one. (for local hosted)

So unless someone else wants to jump on this (as a free local solution) I will be working on one.

With luck it would be nice if a few joined in and worked together.

Ps. This thread is not to discuss other options that may be coming out, this is about a local solution for what many have been waiting for (to be released on vb.org.)

Today I have been working on the framework for the database of it.

Edited to add:We do not want to talk donations, money or about the other add on that was to be out...... please keep it on the topic. Thanks.

[Stangsta]

We already have my myspace hack.....I have plans to build on it and turn it into a product and EASY for the end user (admin) to configure with modules. I have a team ready to work on it ;)

[SuperFly]

I have rebuilt the usercp, and was in works of a plugin to add it and possibly more....so im in.

[Stangsta]

I have rebuilt the usercp, and was in works of a plugin to add it and possibly more....so im in.Maybe as an addon module as opposed to default? People like myself either have no need for the usercp hack OR want it to do something else.

[SuperFly]

Maybe as an addon module as opposed to default? People like myself either have no need for the usercp hack OR want it to do something else.

True, but on top of that, i have some ideas and some small myspace type projects i was looking into like searching - special music band section and others...not gonna say all as im too.....yep said too much

[Stangsta]

True, but on top of that, i have some ideas and some small myspace type projects i was looking into like searching - special music band section and others...not gonna say all as im too.....yep said too muchWhatever the ideas, remember to keep them simple and user friendly. We dont want it to be a duplicate of myspace, but we want it to have the features and more.

[SuperFly]

Whatever the ideas, remember to keep them simple and user friendly. We dont want it to be a duplicate of myspace, but we want it to have the features and more.

Basically the user friendly front of Vbulletin, but more features and customization like Myspace.

[rabidkevin]

i support this collaboration!! lets see a simple, to the point, feature rich product that we can install in to our current VB systems! If we need a donation pool for you folks to work on this, just lemme know where and how much :)

[Shaliza]

I'm interested in this. I don't think it should be a myspace clone either, but more like an advanceed version of vB.

[vBintense]

Well , at this time it seems there will be 2 projects going lol

[ericgtr]

I don't see any reason this can't be implemented as well. Stangsta, your mod is nice (I've even installed it) but it requires a long time to install and integrates a bunch of other mods that I didn't necessarily want to install. At this point, it's not very simple.

Ideally, you guys could work together on this project, who knows what the possibilities are when you get all these great ideas under one umbrella. Either way I look forward to this. :)

[Stangsta]

I don't see any reason this can't be implemented as well. Stangsta, your mod is nice (I've even installed it) but it requires a long time to install and integrates a bunch of other mods that I didn't necessarily want to install. At this point, it's not very simple.

Ideally, you guys could work together on this project, who knows what the possibilities are when you get all these great ideas under one umbrella. Either way I look forward to this. :)You are right, it is a cumbersome install. Version 2 will have an EASY install. And will give you options of which modules you want to use via radio buttons the adminCP. This way, you can pick and choose the options that you want the users to have.

Im all for working with a team of professionals who are serious about working on this project and have the experience necessary to bring together a quality product where everyone wins.

[vBintense]

What is the ETA on yours ? Mine I have hopes of some beta in a week.

[Krahl]

Speaking as solely an end user, I would love to see a primary modification which could then have EASY TO INSTALL modules. Along the lines of how vBadvanced CMPS works.

If everyone who is planning to do something "myspace'ish" could work together to build a basic engine that would have hooks for future modules, that would seem to be the best of all worlds.

Regardless, I would like to sincerely thank those of you who are moving this forward for the community.

Krahl

[Stangsta]

What is the ETA on yours ? Mine I have hopes of some beta in a week.Im not going to provide an ETA. No need to raise false hopes on deadlines. Not to mention the amount of features that I plan on implimenting will take more than a week to have a beta. Good luck.

If you want to work together, we can do that too. I just want the community to get what they want, Im not concerned about fame or $$$.

[vBintense]

Speaking as solely an end user, I would love to see a primary modification which could then have EASY TO INSTALL modules. Along the lines of how vBadvanced CMPS works.

If everyone who is planning to do something "myspace'ish" could work together to build a basic engine that would have hooks for future modules, that would seem to be the best of all worlds.

Regardless, I would like to sincerely thank those of you who are moving this forward for the community.

Krahl
I have a few ideas that have not been mentioned, but those would take some time :) .

As for all working together , unless it happens soon there will be 2.

[mightyb]

After all the wait and disappointment with original VBspace i will be giving a generous donation to person/team releasing a standalone version. :D

[KevNJ]

If I knew more php Id gladly help, so whomever's product I go with will have to deal with a donation instead of me helping, I hope you understand. LOL

[Gio~Logist]

I was actually thinking about doing this myself and i believe i will be starting tomorrow. Me and ChrisM were discussing the topic and how it's not so hard at all really and how it shouldn't take this long for a vbspace (no offense, i'm sure it's a great product). However, seeing as there is a great deal of commotion with vbspace, he just asked me to go ahead and make one. Not wanting to step on anyone's toes here. However, it just seems like the easiest thing to do. I actually did something like this with 3.0.x and sold 66% of the site shares. However, if i do proceed tomorrow, it will be a script. Most likely i will have a light and premium.

[vBintense]

I am glad others plan to as well, mine shall be free when done. After all the drama of the other one I think the community deserves it.

[The Chief]

I was actually thinking about doing this myself and i believe i will be starting tomorrow. Me and ChrisM were discussing the topic and how it's not so hard at all really and how it shouldn't take this long for a vbspace (no offense, i'm sure it's a great product). However, seeing as there is a great deal of commotion with vbspace, he just asked me to go ahead and make one. Not wanting to step on anyone's toes here. However, it just seems like the easiest thing to do. I actually did something like this with 3.0.x and sold 66% of the site shares. However, if i do proceed tomorrow, it will be a script. Most likely i will have a light and premium.
That would be a great idea, I'll second you :)

[Stangsta]

Well, Like I said before. I am open to a Joint project, I want this to be a FREE product for the community. If anyone is interested in working with me or having me work with them, feel free to PM me.

[vBintense]

Sent you a pm.

[The Chief]

Sent you a pm.
I'll be the "Beta tester" :D

[Gio~Logist]

I am glad others plan to as well, mine shall be free when done. After all the drama of the other one I think the community deserves it.

Yes, i will have a free one too

(no self promotion)

[The Chief]

Yes, i will have a free one too
Umm, what's the point of having two different projects, make it together and better :D

[Gio~Logist]

Umm, what's the point of having two different projects, make it together and better :D

Well, with all honesty.. At the end of the day, we all have bills to pay right? Giving back to this community is a great thing and is something i've always done, which is why the light version will be there and have everything needed if i pursue with this.

[The Chief]

Well, with all honesty.. At the end of the day, we all have bills to pay right? Giving back to this community is a great thing and is something i've always done, which is why the light version will be there and have everything needed if i pursue with this.
I was reffering to your project and vBinstense's one, lol, but yeah, I totally understand.

Heck if you didn't make a premium version, I would still pay you :)

[Stangsta]

Well, with all honesty.. At the end of the day, we all have bills to pay right? Giving back to this community is a great thing and is something i've always done, which is why the light version will be there and have everything needed if i pursue with this. But never will i release a half done light version which no one will like, that's a promise.The community is kind of jilted at the moment. You should put your pocket aside for this one, that would be the right thing to do. I understand you will offer a "lite" version, but c'mon....these people deserve more on this one. Maybe charge for a different hack....but this one the people deserve, and for free.

[vBintense]

Right now I am exchanging PMs with stangsta.

And the reason I would not work with gio or him with I, I would think is due to each's thoughts on where want to go with it. He wants to have a premium to profit, which you can not fault him for.

Where I just want totally free for the community who has been thru enough over this add on.

The community is kind of jilted at the moment. You should put your pocket aside for this one, that would be the right thing to do. I understand you will offer a "lite" version, but c'mon....these people deserve more on this one. Maybe charge for a different hack....but this one the people deserve, and for free.
You got me by a few seconds lol

[Gio~Logist]

I was reffering to your project and vBinstense's one, lol, but yeah, I totally understand.

Heck if you didn't make a premium version, I would still pay you :)


Ah, i personally do not know vBintense well, nor has he contacted me. "I am glad others plan to as well, mine shall be free when done. After all the drama of the other one I think the community deserves it." He sounds like he's up for the two different projects, i don't mind to much.

[amykhar]

It looks pretty dopic the way I had to do it, but I zapped a developer's references to a possible commercial mod in a thread. As was stated earlier, promotion of forthcoming commerical or paid modifications is not allowed.

If you need the rules clarified about how you ARE allowed to promote your work, please pm me.

Amy

[vBintense]

Well so far me and Stangsta have an idea going between us. So that is two working together thus far.

[The Chief]

Well so far me and Stangsta have an idea going between us. So that is two working together thus far.
Please keep us up to date on what's happeneing vbintense ;)

[Daniel]

What happened to Danny's vBspace?

[The Chief]

What happened to Danny's vBspace?
You missed alot :D

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117296

[Krahl]

You missed alot :D

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117296

More information about that can be found here: http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=185

Now, back on topic - guys, the discussion in this thread looks great and I'm really excited that you're going to be working on it for the community. That's impressive and appreciated. Heck, I don't even know if my site will be using it or not, but I'm thankful you're community-spirited enough to really get moving on this so quickly in the wake of all the disappointment. Kudos!

Krahl

[Logikos]

When vB 3.5.0 was firsted released, I started to code a vBSpace like project. I never got around to finishing it. I don't plan on doing it either, but here is a screenshot of what a vBulletin site could look like. This could maybe help with ideas.

http://www.vbhackers.com/gear/ss1.gif

[The Chief]

When vB 3.5.0 was firsted released, I started to code a vBSpace like project. I never got around to finishing it. I don't plan on doing it either, but here is a screenshot of what a vBulletin site could look like. This could maybe help with ideas.

http://www.vbhackers.com/gear/ss1.gif
Interesting, thanks for that.

Now to that we add a gallery, comments and a blog, and were settled ;)

[Daniel]

You missed alot :D

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117296
Hmm... it appears I did :p. Thanks for the link.

[Kroby]

When vB 3.5.0 was firsted released, I started to code a vBSpace like project. I never got around to finishing it. I don't plan on doing it either, but here is a screenshot of what a vBulletin site could look like. This could maybe help with ideas.

http://www.vbhackers.com/gear/ss1.gif

waouu very nice look, just add profil comments, and little picture gallery and this where good for most people :cool:
I hope somewone make one, whis the new option in comming 3.6 the way is closer, cool

Stangsta: what the problem with the profil comments at your mod ?

[FlyBoy73]

I was actually thinking about doing this myself and i believe i will be starting tomorrow. Me and ChrisM were discussing the topic and how it's not so hard at all really and how it shouldn't take this long for a vbspace (no offense, i'm sure it's a great product). However, seeing as there is a great deal of commotion with vbspace, he just asked me to go ahead and make one. Not wanting to step on anyone's toes here. However, it just seems like the easiest thing to do. I actually did something like this with 3.0.x and sold 66% of the site shares. However, if i do proceed tomorrow, it will be a script.

You will have customers for both should/when you or anyone else deliver.. We've been teased for so long I think most of us might cut off a finger for a serious (stand-alone) system. ;)

For those who may be untested in a joint/team effort, maybe you all should discuss designating a project manager for this venture?

Damn, I am excited to see this taking place.. :)

[criscokid]

True, but on top of that, i have some ideas and some small myspace type projects i was looking into like searching - special music band section and others...not gonna say all as im too.....yep said too much
"special music band section" - it would be cool to see a generic section that can be used in multiple instances. Example: bands, movies, books, If it's generic then people can easily modify the section to fit in with the theme of their site.

Umm, what's the point of having two different projects, make it together and better :D
If all you guys could work together (not always easy) it would be a more effective use of time and we'll probably see a more robust mod at the end of the day. It also means that there's a bigger group of people to support the mod when forum owners have a problem.

I'm thankful you're community-spirited enough to really get moving on this so quickly in the wake of all the disappointment.
Yeah I'd love to see you guys getting 'the show on the road' by starting to develop this mod as soon as possible :)

I don't plan on doing it either, but here is a screenshot of what a vBulletin site could look like. This could maybe help with ideas.
Nice clean logical and easy to follow layout!

For those who may be untested in a joint/team effort, maybe you all should discuss designating a project manager for this venture?
An excellent suggestion!

[KevNJ]

Messing the the zoints thing I beleive all the features are there that everyone is looking for an an easy editing for the users with the drag and drop, and color selection. Minus the centralization and it would be killer if possible to for another team to do this.

[Stangsta]

Stangsta: what the problem with the profil comments at your mod ? Nothing is wrong with it, I have beed using it all along, works great.

[The Chief]

Messing the the zoints thing I beleive all the features are there that everyone is looking for an an easy editing for the users with the drag and drop, and color selection. Minus the centralization and it would be killer if possible to for another team to do this.
Drap & Drop hasn't been very efficient for my members unfortunaetly...

Keep it simple ;)

[ericgtr]

Drap & Drop hasn't been very efficient for my members unfortunaetly...

Keep it simple ;)
Agreed, too much AJAX isn't always a good thing. There are times that page loads can actually be beneficial, at least you know you are waiting on something.

[friendly]

I think a light and a premium version would be great. I would personally like to have the support that comes with a paid version.

[vBintense]

Just so people know the plan.

We plan to have a simple solution at first beta and add to it with releases, this way the product is out faster and tested as we go.

The main interest is what people feel they need in the first release. Please keep it to what 'need' not to over kill the time to get this out for the public.

[Qwest]

You missed alot :D

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117296
This whole thing is like reading a soap opera. If I didn't have 3 forums and a bunch of sites to run I'd be here all day :D

[The Chief]

I think a light and a premium version would be great. I would personally like to have the support that comes with a paid version.
Yup, I agree, premium support could be given.

This whole thing is like reading a soap opera. If I didn't have 3 forums and a bunch of sites to run I'd be here all day :D
LOL, yes, unfortunaetly...

[friendly]

Ability to integrate the usual suspects in a profile:
YouTube, Google Video and Last FM.

[Ohiosweetheart]

Just so people know the plan.

We plan to have a simple solution at first beta and add to it with releases, this way the product is out faster and tested as we go.

The main interest is what people feel they need in the first release. Please keep it to what 'need' not to over kill the time to get this out for the public.

WONDERFUL! I'm definitely keeping an eye on this.. :bunny:

[Bluestrike2]

If you need someone to design any graphics (figured I might as well offer even though I doubt I'll be needed), I'll give you a hand :).

- Blue

[vBintense]

As of today

Db set up done (well for the base)
Coding on admin options as of now (for basic beta).

[Mr Chad]

what im intrested in is a better profile system / member search system (like make more of a social netoworing hack).

I have alot of members that sign up to one of my forums from myspace, 30% of them say the forum is too hard to use. Might want to work on a more user friendly signup. (like add your photos, program your sig, like steps).

Also if we could add something like yahoo.coms intro to their new homepage (the flash thing). For when a new member signs up it could go over the forums and explain what to do :)

[vBintense]

Well the first beta will even have a better member search, working something like myspace's now. To search by many options in a clean and optional search.

[Shaliza]

Are you going to have beta testers or will the hack just be released as beta?

[vBintense]

Are you going to have beta testers or will the hack just be released as beta?
That I do not know, would have to discuss with Stangsta.

[RDX1]

What happened to the vbspace mod?

[The Chief]

As of today

Db set up done (well for the base)
Coding on admin options as of now (for basic beta).
Cool, good luck, it's fun to see updates :D

[vBintense]

Cool, good luck, it's fun to see updates :D
No trouble at all, will try to keep everyone in the loop.

As for the question of we are going to release the beta or have testers , it has been decided it is best to select some testers for the beta (when the time comes)

[The Chief]

No trouble at all, will try to keep everyone in the loop.

As for the question of we are going to release the beta or have testers , it has been decided it is best to select some testers for the beta (when the time comes)
I hope our site will be in your aim ;)

[Krahl]

What happened to the vbspace mod?

This:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117296

More information about the ongoing work on their work can be found here: http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=185

Krahl

[Kroby]

Drap & Drop hasn't been very efficient for my members unfortunaetly...

Keep it simple ;)

I agree, and i think that the profils an your site is a good exemple of what people are looking for, very nice and usual, felicitations :)

[vBintense]

There will be very little (if any) ajax in the beta.

[criscokid]

Keep it simple ;)
Agreed! It needs to be simple enough that users don't need detailed instructions on how to get their profile up and running.

what im intrested in is a better profile system / member search system (like make more of a social netoworing hack).
Please also include a better (than what vB provides as standard) member search and who's online... basically make it easier for people to make new friends outside of the forum postings area.

I have alot of members that sign up to one of my forums from myspace, 30% of them say the forum is too hard to use. Might want to work on a more user friendly signup. (like add your photos, program your sig, like steps).
Step by step... brilliant!!! I have exactly the same problem with some of my users.

[Kurisu]

Drap & Drop hasn't been very efficient for my members unfortunaetly...

Keep it simple ;)

I don't know what the problem is for your members...

You have seen vbSpace in action. The drag & drop system couldn't be easier to use.

[vBintense]

Todays tasks.
Coding admincp (for main space index and for profiles)
Code some of the users edit options durring testing of the admincp controls.

[The Chief]

Todays tasks.
Coding admincp (for main space index and for profiles)
Code some of the users edit options durring testing of the admincp controls.
Tell us how it went :D

are you alone on this?

[vBintense]

Its moving along ok thus far.

I am not trying to rush it, but also working on it in a good pace.

I am not alone , I am coding and stangsta will be doing templating once I am to that point.

[KevNJ]

glad to see the updates.. looking forward to this as im sure my 4500 members are as well .. lol

[vBintense]

Well , I just got a bit more serious on it. I was working via a test site now on local host to move faster :)

[The Chief]

Well , I just got a bit more serious on it. I was working via a test site now on local host to move faster :)
Please tell us what the features will include so we can get an idea of it working :)

[Stangsta]

Please tell us what the features will include so we can get an idea of it working :)I dont think at this time we will go into any more details. Remember, it is not even Pre alpha. The coding has just begun in the last 2 days. Im sure you know what to expect. Its not fair to list items that may or may not make it in this release. When the time comes, you will find out.

When a beta is released, you will be able to see the features for yourself.

[criscokid]

I've just been reading The Grown-Ups Find MySpace (http://www.phpportals.com/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=17053) article.

"As mentioned, MySpace isn't necessarily the best with any of its features. What has made it a success, and promises to continue its growth (it was bought last summer for $580 million by media mogul Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.), is the fact that it rather seamlessly integrates a variety of online tools into one easy-to-use interface."

[Benj]

wooo great work guys......

[The Chief]

I dont think at this time we will go into any more details. Remember, it is not even Pre alpha. The coding has just begun in the last 2 days. Im sure you know what to expect. Its not fair to list items that may or may not make it in this release. When the time comes, you will find out.

When a beta is released, you will be able to see the features for yourself.
I was personnally thinking of hiring some coders for the work.

If I see that this works good, I will save some money, I just need a basic idea of what will be included in it.

Anyways, hope it goes well ;)

Charles

[vBintense]

I was personnally thinking of hiring some coders for the work.

If I see that this works good, I will save some money, I just need a basic idea of what will be included in it.

Anyways, hope it goes well ;)

Charles
What will be included as time goes or beta ?

Remember the beta will be that , core options mainly then alot shall be added to it as the beta is stable.

Beleive me I want a full solution.

Today is a non coding day, I am relaxing and giving the mind a vacation.

[The Chief]

What will be included as time goes or beta ?

Remember the beta will be that , core options mainly then alot shall be added to it as the beta is stable.

Beleive me I want a full solution.

Today is a non coding day, I am relaxing and giving the mind a vacation.
I hope you are, it's god's rest day :D

Well at least a plan of what will be included.

[vBintense]

Well you could always say what is important do you and we can tell you if it will be in the final :)

[The Chief]

Well you could always say what is important do you and we can tell you if it will be in the final :)
Well here is the list of features I am expecting, as well as many others I think :)

- Profile Comment System (with date/time added)
- Picture Gallery (with comments and title if available)
- Rating System, can rate the user, can be really simple :)
- Notification system (new comments, new friend requests, new messages)
- Default picture, and maybe top 8 friends if that's not so hard to do...

Hope this list can be useful ;)

[SpilltheBeans]

Hey guys, I found this thread and think you have a great idea. I'm actually starting a new SN-type site and have been trying to find a good solution. The one advice I'd give to the developers, and I'm sure you're already doing this, is to go to Myspace, get an account, add some friends, and see what works and what doesn't. I don't like Myspace in general with it's AOL talk, but there are definitely some compelling features, primarly the friend finding system based on commonalities and the versitility of the profile page. I'll be watching this thread.

[vBintense]

- Profile Comment System (with date/time added)
Planned
- Picture Gallery (with comments and title if available)
Planned in but not in beta
- Rating System, can rate the user, can be really simple
Planned
- Notification system (new comments, new friend requests, new messages)
Planned
- Default picture, and maybe top 8 friends if that's not so hard to do...
Planned

[The Chief]

- Profile Comment System (with date/time added)
Planned
- Picture Gallery (with comments and title if available)
Planned in but not in beta
- Rating System, can rate the user, can be really simple
Planned
- Notification system (new comments, new friend requests, new messages)
Planned
- Default picture, and maybe top 8 friends if that's not so hard to do...
Planned
Well that's a good beginning :)

I have discussed the gallery system with a couple of fellow coders, and it doesn't seem to be that hard really, so might want to have a talk with geo or Hellcat.

Glad the rest is all planned, don't be shy to add more as you go along ;)

[vBintense]

There is alot 'planned' but as said for beta it will be less intense then following releases.

The gallery will not be to hard, it is matter of time , core system, beta testing, getting it to the community ect.

[friendly]

If the top 8 friends feature is included, it would be nice to make it an option that can be turned off and on. I'd prefer not to use it.

[FlyBoy73]

Blog integration would be nice as well even if not in beta. Maybe even utilizing WordPress Multi-User?

Keep up the great work guys.. Big Props from a lot of people!

[The Chief]

If the top 8 friends feature is included, it would be nice to make it an option that can be turned off and on. I'd prefer not to use it.
I'm sure this will be an option my friendly :D

Blog integration would be nice as well even if not in beta. Maybe even utilizing WordPress Multi-User?

Keep up the great work guys.. Big Props from a lot of people!
Yup, that would also be a valuable idea ;)

[friendly]

Wow, I feel the love!
How about add a feature to send a virtual kiss. ;)
I'm sure this will be an option my friendly :D


more features: integrate Skype and this hack (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=106239)

--- that should do it. Anything else would be overkill (for now.) :)

Bebo has a good Skype integration: http://www.bebo.com/Default.jsp
BTW, they just got 15 million in funding. (http://blog.softtechvc.com/2006/05/another_day_ano.html)

Here's a terrific social networking blog -- WhatMySpaceMeans (http://www.whatmyspacemeans.com/)

goodnight!

[Shaliza]

I can't wait for this. If all the features I need are in, I won't need to install seven different hacks, ha.

[criscokid]

I can't wait for this. If all the features I need are in, I won't need to install seven different hacks, ha.
Which in theory should make upgrading vBulletin a lot easier! :)

[Dean C]

I've just been reading The Grown-Ups Find MySpace (http://www.phpportals.com/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=17053) article.

"As mentioned, MySpace isn't necessarily the best with any of its features. What has made it a success, and promises to continue its growth (it was bought last summer for $580 million by media mogul Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.), is the fact that it rather seamlessly integrates a variety of online tools into one easy-to-use interface."

What's made it successful is integration straight into MSN Messenger.

[Benj]

What's made it successful is integration straight into MSN Messenger.

its not intergrated with msn messenger is it??????
maybe msn spaces is :D

althought myspace has just released its own IM program :P ;)

[criscokid]

An idea for a future release: add functionality to log in to other social networking sites and copy information from a persons account say on MySpace, Bebo, etc - this would save a person having to enter information if they were to sign up to a vB site.

See the [Should I Release?] MySpace Quick Register thread (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=114459)

[The Chief]

Wow, I feel the love!
How about add a feature to send a virtual kiss. ;)


more features: integrate Skype and this hack (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=106239)

--- that should do it. Anything else would be overkill (for now.) :)

Bebo has a good Skype integration: http://www.bebo.com/Default.jsp
BTW, they just got 15 million in funding. (http://blog.softtechvc.com/2006/05/another_day_ano.html)

Here's a terrific social networking blog -- WhatMySpaceMeans (http://www.whatmyspacemeans.com/)

goodnight!
Interesting, I like :)

[friendly]

Howdy Chief! I might be a 42 year old broad, but I do have a few ideas - - some not a terrible as others. ;)
Anyroad, how about having the ability to create and join groups.
Here's an example from a script that was made for me a while ago.
http://lifestyle.shwing.com/index.php?mode=listing&act=all

[The Chief]

Howdy Chief! I might be a 42 year old broad, but I do have a few ideas - - some not a terrible as others. ;)
Anyroad, how about having the ability to create and join groups.
Here's an example from a script that was made for me a while ago.
http://lifestyle.shwing.com/index.php?mode=listing&act=all
Interesting, if you provide this script to vBIntense or Stangsta, I'm sure they will be able to do something with it :D

[friendly]

Sure.. in a few hours when I get to my computer. If one of them pms an email, I'll be glad to send it.

[The Chief]

Sure.. in a few hours when I get to my computer. If one of them pms an email, I'll be glad to send it.
Cool, at the worst, just send them a PM with the link to the file ;)

Will there be a Bulletin kinda feature? :)

[vBintense]

I honestly have not thought on that feature. I do not think it would be to much of a trouble in one of the releases.

[The Chief]

I honestly have not thought on that feature. I do not think it would be to much of a trouble in one of the releases.
Great, I think it would be something that would be pretty in demand, where people can post quick notices of something :)

[friendly]

I've sent a pm to vbintense. Ciao!

[The Chief]

I've sent a pm to vbintense. Ciao!
We would also need something that when the user registers using a refferal I.D., that that person is automatically added to other's friend list and be able to edit their Title or Username easily :)

Thanks :D

[friendly]

That would be terrific chief!
Is this going to be standalone? By that I mean, can one link to a main hub for this script or can it be accessed only from a user's profile?

Cheers...

[The Chief]

That would be terrific chief!
Is this going to be standalone? By that I mean, can one link to a main hub for this script or can it be accessed only from a user's profile?

Cheers...
I think they said it will be a stand-alone version and everything will be controlled by the admin :)

[Stangsta]

I think they said it will be a stand-alone version and everything will be controlled by the admin :)That is correct. There will also be an (optional via adminCP) start page.

For example, when a user logs in to the forum, it would redirect him to his start page (yes...on YOUR forum :) ) where they can view things like "new members", "top rated members", and such as well as all of his controls and settings similar to myspace (Superfly will help template wise in this area).

The best part, is there will be an "on/off switch" in the adminCP, so if you did not want to utilize this feature, you dont have to. I could go on and on......but lets get to door 1 before we open door 2.

[The Chief]

We would also need something that when the user registers using a refferal I.D., that that person is automatically added to other's friend list and be able to edit their Title or Username easily :)

Thanks :D
Will these be added? :D

[zyad]

is the creating going to be music related, or just a general community so that everyone could use it?

[Stangsta]

Will these be added? :DIn a release following the inital one, yes. As well as adding a mod or admin of your choice to everyones list.

is the creating going to be music related, or just a general community so that everyone could use it?
It will be general, you will have the ability to customize the templates/phrases to suit your needs.

[The Chief]

In a release following the inital one, yes. As well as adding a mod or admin of your choice to everyones list.


It will be general, you will have the ability to customize the templates/phrases to suit your needs.
Interesting, this seems to be well established. Good luck!

[Shaliza]

Which in theory should make upgrading vBulletin a lot easier! :)

Yep!

[novabandit]

Tell me if this is beyond the realm of possibility... but...

I think it would make members more likely to use the vbspace profiles if they could access their profile page by the address username.sitename.com.

I feel that people would think of it more of their own space in that situation, let alone it's something easy for them to remember and tell to thier friends.

[The Chief]

Tell me if this is beyond the realm of possibility... but...

I think it would make members more likely to use the vbspace profiles if they could access their profile page by the address username.sitename.com.

I feel that people would think of it more of their own space in that situation, let alone it's something easy for them to remember and tell to thier friends.
Yes, this would also be something to consider :)

[Stangsta]

Tell me if this is beyond the realm of possibility... but...

I think it would make members more likely to use the vbspace profiles if they could access their profile page by the address username.sitename.com.

I feel that people would think of it more of their own space in that situation, let alone it's something easy for them to remember and tell to thier friends.Well, lets not call it vbspace now. :)

We already have that functionality via the .htaccess file however...there is an issue with names that contain spaces and possibly special characters. That will be tackled after the inital release, which will temporarily use the .htaccess until things are sorted out.

[friendly]

Hmmm... would that entail using subdomains? I use a number of subdomains on my site already. What if a user chooses a username but the subdomain is already in use? I guess I don't get how this would work.

As for the vbspace name, perhaps we should all try to brainstorm a new name for this project if you don't already have one.

[vBintense]

The url/name will actually end up working like the ones on myspace , where the user can make a 'nick' to be called by , check availability and then implement it.

Today I got a few hours of coding in, main working right now is on all back end functionality, the way this is being coded is with the intent to make all other options/add-on easier in the future.

[The Chief]

The url/name will actually end up working like the ones on myspace , where the user can make a 'nick' to be called by , check availability and then implement it.

Today I got a few hours of coding in, main working right now is on all back end functionality, the way this is being coded is with the intent to make all other options/add-on easier in the future.
Damn, I really appreciate your efforts, keep up the good work, when you estimate we see a demo or beta working?

[vBintense]

Demo will not be able to show for awhile, due to a few facts, one I am coding it on local host for now and another is due to I do not have a spare vb lic to use on this project.

Screens may come rather soon though, once the part I am working on is where I wish it to be things will speed up rather fast.

[The Chief]

Demo will not be able to show for awhile, due to a few facts, one I am coding it on local host for now and another is due to I do not have a spare vb lic to use on this project.

Screens may come rather soon though, once the part I am working on is where I wish it to be things will speed up rather fast.
Sure, take your time and make it one of the most sucessfull hacks to hit vB.org :)

[friendly]

I concur. You and stangsta really seem to be on top of things -- yet I suggest you take your time to create a great product.
Damn, I really appreciate your efforts, keep up the good work, when you estimate we see a demo or beta working?

[vBintense]

We just want it right, and easy to add on to.

Remember when there was add on's for modifications? Well that is something that is being thought of before hand, something where others can add to it with relative ease.

With a good core, and flexible coding it will allow others or perhaps even inspire others to make add ons for it when its done sort of like adding modules for portals.

[friendly]

I own two domains that you might want to consider naming this project after and use for future development. I have one that would be perfect, but I'm already using that for my own project. ;)
I'll pm you both with the names. One has the word date in it, but it's more like a calendar date than a romantic date.

[vBintense]

Ideas are always welcome.

We have not even discussed the name to indepth.

[Benj]

Demo will not be able to show for awhile, due to a few facts, one I am coding it on local host for now and another is due to I do not have a spare vb lic to use on this project.

Screens may come rather soon though, once the part I am working on is where I wish it to be things will speed up rather fast.

ive got a spair one if you want to use it;)

edit * obviously i want it back like

[criscokid]

Hmmm... would that entail using subdomains? I use a number of subdomains on my site already. What if a user chooses a username but the subdomain is already in use?
You just enter those subdomains into your list of 'not-allowed usernames' so nobody will be able to create a username that matchs those words.

The url/name will actually end up working like the ones on myspace , where the user can make a 'nick' to be called by , check availability and then implement it.
Isn't that going to confuse people - then they'll have a forum login name and a 'chosen username'.

MySpace users use their email addresses to login with - vBulletin uses usernames.

Demo will not be able to show for awhile, due to a few facts, one I am coding it on local host for now and another is due to I do not have a spare vb lic to use on this project.
Create a PayPal button so we can all donate a bit towards a license.

[The Chief]

You just enter those subdomains into your list of 'not-allowed usernames' so nobody will be able to create a username that matchs those words.


Isn't that going to confuse people - then they'll have a forum login name and a 'chosen username'.

MySpace users use their email addresses to login with - vBulletin uses usernames.


Create a PayPal button so we can all donate a bit towards a license.
I think there is a mod or something that let's users login using their email :)

[vBintense]

You just enter those subdomains into your list of 'not-allowed usernames' so nobody will be able to create a username that matchs those words.

Exactly but can do that with alias they choose as well.

Isn't that going to confuse people - then they'll have a forum login name and a 'chosen username'.

I would not think so, there are hacks out to make alias's on forums and no real troubles.

Create a PayPal button so we can all donate a bit towards a license.
Actually nothing monetary has been even though of or discussed in this project. While I think the idea has merit I personally belief it to soon to even consider due to it is in core code at this time. Maybe a donate later, will have to discuss with stangsta.

[KevNJ]

How about a " whos viewed my profile" just like this one?
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91772

also a mass email/pm/bulletin can be done like this mod/hack.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=100314

but those are further down the line.. just thought id mention them.

glad to see this moving along nicely.

cheers!

[The Chief]

How about a " whos viewed my profile" just like this one?
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91772

also a mass email/pm/bulletin can be done like this mod/hack.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=100314
I think we will be able to use the one that is currently released :)


I would not think so, there are hacks out to make alias's on forums and no real troubles.


Well with this we are limited to using Apache, if we have our forums installed on lighttpd (like I have), we can't use it :(

[vBintense]

Well with this we are limited to using Apache, if we have our forums installed on lighttpd (like I have), we can't use it
Dont worry as most things it will be optional. So the admin can decide.

[The Chief]

also a mass email/pm/bulletin can be done like this mod/hack.
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=100314


This can also be used currently with your board.

Dont worry as most things it will be optional. So the admin can decide.
Great, thanks for keeping up :)

[KevNJ]

This can also be used currently with your board.



yea i use both of those currently on my boards. they work great. just thought someone they can be intergrated into this hack and be able to be controlled from one admin page, instead. oh well though. :)

hmm.. what else what else.. lol;)

[The Chief]

yea i use both of those currently on my boards. they work great. just thought someone they can be intergrated into this hack and be able to be controlled from one admin page, instead. oh well though. :)

hmm.. what else what else.. lol;)
Let's let them a bit of time to get the initial release actually released ;)

[KevNJ]

Let's let them a bit of time to get the initial release actually released ;)

maybe they could ask the coders of those hacks to allow them to "plop" the code in this hack ?! :confused:

side not... plan on sharing that " featured profile" hack you have running on your board?

[The Chief]

maybe they could ask the coders of those hacks to allow them to "plop" the code in this hack ?! :confused:

side not... plan on sharing that " featured profile" hack you have running on your board?
It's not a hack, it's plain HTML :D

[friendly]

Chief, your etalk profiles are pretty nifty. Seems like you should be helping to code this project. ;)

A bookmarking or favorite sites feature will be nice.

-- and the ability to make a profile private (but not for admins) -- or is that pushing it?

[SuperFly]

Guys...the first release will be a basic one, features may and or will be added in other releases, but lets just get the first one out., and ideas please pm VBintense, Stangsta or myself.

[Shaliza]

Yeah, The Chief has cool looking profiles. They don't like like vB at all.

[The Chief]

Chief, your etalk profiles are pretty nifty. Seems like you should be helping to code this project. ;)

A bookmarking or favorite sites feature will be nice.

-- and the ability to make a profile private (but not for admins) -- or is that pushing it?
I rather not, they needed coders, I just modified templates.

[vBintense]

Today I started moving everything over to a vB 3.6 install, this way there is no issues later from it.

[The Chief]

Today I started moving everything over to a vB 3.6 install, this way there is no issues later from it.
I guess that's good, what features have you gotten through as of now? :)

[Stangsta]

I guess that's good, what features have you gotten through as of now? :)Please be patient. Information such as that will be released when the time comes. If a feature was to be completed at this stage, it may or may not make it to the beta, so there is no point in discussing at what point the hack is at. vbintense, superfly or myself will let you know when something has been completed if we feel it is signifigant enough. If this thread becomes a "whats the ETA" thread etc., then we may have it closed and wait till the release thread.

[The Chief]

Please be patient. Information such as that will be released when the time comes. If a feature was to be completed at this stage, it may or may not make it to the beta, so there is no point in discussing at what point the hack is at. vbintense, superfly or myself will let you know when something has been completed if we feel it is signifigant enough. If this thread becomes a "whats the ETA" thread etc., then we may have it closed and wait till the release thread.
Daily updates are always welcome ;)

[Stangsta]

Daily updates are always welcome ;)True, but not required or to be expected.

If there is an update we feel is signifigant, we will let everyone know. But trying to "extract" updates will only be counter productive so to speak.:bunny:

[The Chief]

True, but not required or to be expected.

If there is an update we feel is signifigant, we will let everyone know. But trying to "extract" updates will only be counter productive so to speak.:bunny:
haha, yes yes, I also wanted to make a suggestion: Let the user delete his/her own profile. :)

[vBintense]

Daily updates are always welcome ;)
I do try to give daily updates, although you must rememer some days not much gets done, where other days a bit does.

Also try to remember we want this out as much as you do, but rushing the code would be bad at the end of the day.

[The Chief]

I do try to give daily updates, although you must rememer some days not much gets done, where other days a bit does.

Also try to remember we want this out as much as you do, but rushing the code would be bad at the end of the day.
True, but from the updates you gave us earlier you seemed like a pretty steady coder, so I just assumed you kept the same pace :p

[vBintense]

It depends , I also do custom work, and work a job remember we all have bills. So alot of factors in how much I do per day.

If it was up to me I would put 3 to 4 hours a day on it, and at times do. Also think on it alot thru out the day to different ways to do things in it to make it more flexible.

[The Chief]

It depends , I also do custom work, and work a job remember we all have bills. So alot of factors in how much I do per day.

If it was up to me I would put 3 to 4 hours a day on it, and at times do. Also think on it alot thru out the day to different ways to do things in it to make it more flexible.
That's awesome, just to let you know I am behind you and I am sure alot of people are, you might be seing this product on some pretty insane sites ;)

[vbreal]

SHOW ME THE DONATE BUTTON!!!

This is great. I have so many users that come from myspace and leave because the forums seem to hard to them. Where to go to change your avatar, your sig(whats a sig) ha Don't see how it is so hard for them but it is. To have something more user friendly would be great and improve how long new members stay to give the message board a chance.

I have been asking for this for about 2 months now. Is there anyway you can include in your mod a way for the private messages to resemble myspace or at least have the person avatar next to the PM. The PM section is soooooooo boring. But have it where if a person has avatars off it wouldn't show in the PM area. Some users are at work and want things as simple as possible.

I know you say this is free. But you guys deserve something for your efforts. Nice to see Stangsta in such a giving mood. I remember when i had to pay for his help with my member profiles.

[DannyITR]

Hi guys,

I just found this thread after reading and finding out the scam that was vbspace. I have a really sour taste in my mouth at the way those people handled themselves but I won't turn this into a hate on vbspace thread even though they deserve it.

I'm so happy that you guys are spending the time to create a decentralized version for us poeple who do not want to share their memberbase. As was just said: SHOW ME THE DONATE BUTTON!!

Most of my suggestions have already been mentioned but I would like to repeat them:

- capability of username.domain.com

The will really create a sense of the user having their own space on your site. Its easy and fun to put in signatures on other forums and in email and even works to draw other people into your community because who wouldn't want a website domain with your name in it. Its just a cool thing to have.

- photogallery

This is perhaps the most important feature to me. I run a car site and I will be using this hack to allow people to post pics of their cars and have them rated. I know there is a hack called vbgarage for this purpose but its really lacking in features and I don't want to touch it.

- customizable searchable user entry fields

For the car site I need people to be able to choose their make and model of car form a dropdown menu and have it searchable. I'm not sure what applications this might have in a non car site. Perhaps if I wanted to search for someone who's main interest was sports or politics lets say?

- members displayed by rating, most views, date registered, posts, interests, car, in ascendng or descending etc....

This would be a great way to find members your looking for and that releate to your interests (or in my case your type of car).

- users can group themselves together and start clubs.

Useful for car sites because there are so many car clubs and my site is a great place to offer them free picture hosting and a place to organize themselves. Clubs could also have their own private forum which they can choose to make public or not. You know it might be cool for non car sites too. I'm a member of a politics site where paying members have their own private forums and can invite people in and such.

The rest of the features are pretty basic things of social networking sites like what The Chief already posted in message 82 of this thread.


My main competitor is a site called monchar.com (http://monchar.com) (french for mycar.com..its worth a look). They use a custom solution and its amazing. They went from nothing to greatness in under 2 years. I'm limited to my VB existence so I'm hoping this hack might bring my site at least on par with them.

btw I'm trying to figure out what the differnece is between this hack and the myspace profile re-write?

[Stangsta]

Nice to see Stangsta in such a giving mood. I remember when i had to pay for his help with my member profiles.Well yeah, when someone wants me to fix problems on thier site or install hacks etc, of course im going to charge. My spare time is valuable to me and at the same time, I enjoy the work.

[amykhar]

Please guys, knock off the donate button stuff for now :D Save it for when a mod is released and working.

NO MONEY TALK IN THIS THREAD. NONE. Please. Help save my sanity and help actually keep DEVELOPMENT conversation going. I don't want to have to keep reading every word of thread to make sure that it doesn't go south like the other one. Please. just keep the conversation on the features and the code.

Amy

[vBintense]

Please guys, knock off the donate button stuff for now :D Save it for when a mod is released and working.

NO MONEY TALK IN THIS THREAD. NONE. Please. Help save my sanity and help actually keep DEVELOPMENT conversation going. I don't want to have to keep reading every word of thread to make sure that it doesn't go south like the other one. Please. just keep the conversation on the features and the code.

Amy
I agree fully, money should not even be an issue to any , it is not to us this is for the community, and for our communitys as well.

[The Chief]

I agree fully, money should not even be an issue to any , it is not to us this is for the community, and for our communitys as well.
Yes, let's not talk about money until the hack is released :)

[toolblast]

Hi Chief, Stangsta, DannyITR. I agree 100% with VBintense's initiative.

VBspaces really pumped us all up, and I would like to put in a quick two cents. Myself and many other VB users (Chief and Stangsta especially) were posting like crazy on the VBspace hack thread and we were supporting it all the way. For Danny to turn it around into some centralized service and scrap the whole idea of releasing a public hack with full source code to everyone who has been patiently waiting, I find that to be a big slap in the face. I like the Zoints idea, but I hate how it was presented in a very tricky manner.

Basically, any features that were in the old VBspaces discussion as well as the features DannyITR meantioned, I would be happy with. Basically make a single hack that lets users customize sweet looking profiles, is one of the biggest features. Very feature-rich ajax-driven user profiles that have a big emphasis on social networking, friends/buddies, and discussing with friends, as well as creating groups.

Thats what I would really want, and was expecting from Danny, until the recent news about Zoints.

What do you guys thinks??

[KevNJ]

Hi Chief, Stangsta, DannyITR. I agree 100% with VBintense's initiative.

VBspaces really pumped us all up, and I would like to put in a quick two cents. Myself and many other VB users (Chief and Stangsta especially) were posting like crazy on the VBspace hack thread and we were supporting it all the way. For Danny to turn it around into some centralized service and scrap the whole idea of releasing a public hack with full source code to everyone who has been patiently waiting, I find that to be a big slap in the face. I like the Zoints idea, but I hate how it was presented in a very tricky manner.

Basically, any features that were in the old VBspaces discussion as well as the features DannyITR meantioned, I would be happy with. Basically make a single hack that lets users customize sweet looking profiles, is one of the biggest features. Very feature-rich ajax-driven user profiles that have a big emphasis on social networking, friends/buddies, and discussing with friends, as well as creating groups.

Thats what I would really want, and was expecting from Danny, until the recent news about Zoints.

What do you guys thinks??


I believe thats what is planned. Although not a full blown mod right away. Going to release things to get started and then add to them or allow other coders to make "plug-ins" to add to this hack/mod. But I dont believe it will be ajax driver like zoints ( although I do like the zoints ajax system, just not centralization of it ).

[Stangsta]

I believe thats what is planned. Although not a full blown mod right away. Going to release things to get started and then add to them or allow other coders to make "plug-ins" to add to this hack/mod. But I dont believe it will be ajax driver like zoints ( although I do like the zoints ajax system, just not centralization of it ).You sir are correct :)

AJAX "may" play a part towards the end of the final release, but im not going to lie....dont hold your breath.

@toolblast
Please don't blame Danny for anything, he is helping code that project. He does what is asked of him as you would if your boss at your job would ask of you. Danny had a vision and an idea, and others ran with it and included him.

[toolblast]

By the way, how come certain discussions (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117364&highlight=zoints) on Zoints are being closed by admins and not given a straight answer? And why was the old VBspace thread (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=82930) COMPLETELY TAKEN DOWN. If it was closed I'd be ok with it, since the hack discussion is over, but ERASING IT from member's view is not cool. I heard it was because of talk of it being a commercial hack. Thats not true, it was always said to be free, and the final service, Zoints, IS free. Hopefully it is still there and just changed permissions while the admins "review" it, because I want to go over that thread and make a large list of everything us, VB.org members, discussed and said we wanted in that hack so that I can compile a list of features that we can talk about when making our own VBspaces hack the way it was supposed to be done.

If an admin can respond to this, please do!

Oh, I am not blaming Danny for everything. Far from it. Danny started the thread, but he became part of the Zoints project, so he isn't the sole person incharge. As you said, he is a coder (and a superb one at that) who is just following orders.

I had a LOOOOONG MSN chat with the new owner/founder of Zoints tonight (in the past 3 hours). He answered a lot of my questions and has made it clear the direction and vision that Zoints is headed as well as talk about the publically released version. I will not make any official statement on what we discussed in the chat, as David (whom we know as "d1414") said he would make an public statement of his own when the time feels right.

If you'd like to chat, just PM me.

I'll be checking this thread daily. Keep updating us VBintense on any progress! :D

[Stangsta]

By the way, how come certain discussions (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117364&highlight=zoints) on Zoints are being closed by admins and not given a straight answer? And why was the old VBspace thread (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=82930) COMPLETELY TAKEN DOWN. If it was closed I'd be ok with it, since the hack discussion is over, but ERASING IT from member's view is not cool. I heard it was because of talk of it being a commercial hack. Thats not true, it was always said to be free, and the final service, Zoints, IS free. Hopefully it is still there and just changed permissions while the admins "review" it, because I want to go over that thread and make a large list of everything us, VB.org members, discussed and said we wanted in that hack so that I can compile a list of features that we can talk about when making our own VBspaces hack the way it was supposed to be done.

If an admin can respond to this, please do!

Oh, I am not blaming Danny for everything. Far from it. Danny started the thread, but he became part of the Zoints project, so he isn't the sole person incharge. As you said, he is a coder (and a superb one at that) who is just following orders.

I had a LOOOOONG MSN chat with the new owner/founder of Zoints tonight (in the past 3 hours). He answered a lot of my questions and has made it clear the direction and vision that Zoints is headed as well as talk about the publically released version. I will not make any official statement on what we discussed in the chat, as David (whom we know as "d1414") said he would make an public statement of his own when the time feels right.

If you'd like to chat, just PM me.

I'll be checking this thread daily. Keep updating us VBintense on any progress! :DInstead of threadjacking, why dont you PM an admin instead of waiting for one to fall in your lap?

[vBintense]

I wish people would take the time to read a thread before posting.

We are working on something and all we ask is no money talk or talk of the other that has been asked not to be discussed on vb.org.

Perhaps it is time for admin/mod to close this thread and we will post again once we are ready to release a beta.

[The Chief]

I wish people would take the time to read a thread before posting.

We are working on something and all we ask is no money talk or talk of the other that has been asked not to be discussed on vb.org.

Perhaps it is time for admin/mod to close this thread and we will post again once we are ready to release a beta.
We actually need a discussion thread for suggestions and updates, let's just keep it at that ;)

[toolblast]

Sorry VBintense for bringing up talk about "other" stuff.

Just remember though, I think we'll need to talk about VBspaces a bit if we are wanting to build something similar to it. I wish that thread was still up so we could make a dream feature list and then pick and choose from it what we really want to create.

*edited*

Thanks.

[KevNJ]

Sorry VBintense for bringing up talk about "other" stuff.

Just remember though, I think we'll need to talk about VBspaces a bit if we are wanting to build something similar to it. I wish that thread was still up so we could make a dream feature list and then pick and choose from it what we really want to create.

Have you started work on anything as of yet VBintense? If so please share info on what you have started :)

Note to all: As VBintense said, this isn't a thread for ranting about VBspaces or Zoints, so after this post do not discuss Zoints at all. And secondly, only discuss VBspaces if you are trying to resurrect discussion over a feature that was discussed in the old thread.

Thanks.



vbiIntense also stated " I wish people would take the time to read a thread before posting. " If you do like he asked you will find your answers.

[Stangsta]

Sorry VBintense for bringing up talk about "other" stuff.

Just remember though, I think we'll need to talk about VBspaces a bit if we are wanting to build something similar to it. I wish that thread was still up so we could make a dream feature list and then pick and choose from it what we really want to create.

Have you started work on anything as of yet VBintense? If so please share info on what you have started :)

Note to all: As VBintense said, this isn't a thread for ranting about VBspaces or Zoints, so after this post do not discuss Zoints at all. And secondly, only discuss VBspaces if you are trying to resurrect discussion over a feature that was discussed in the old thread.

Thanks.Sorry if this comes off harsh, but apparently you have not taken the time to read this thread and have completely missed the point of it.

Please re-read the thread, or refrain from positing in it, I don't feel like having to repeat things over and over. I would really have to close this thread and ruin it for others because someone is too lazy.

[SuperFly]

Sorry if this comes off harsh, but apparently you have not taken the time to read this thread and have completely missed the point of it.

Please re-read the thread, or refrain from positing in it, I don't feel like having to repeat things over and over. I would really have to close this thread and ruin it for others because someone is too lazy.

I say we do...no point of having a thread if we cant even touch it yet stangsta.

[toolblast]

Hi Stangsta, Hi SuperFly.

I just took the time to read through the entire thread. Looks like some good things are planned between Stangsta and VBintense.

I would really like to contribute to the project, whether its building a template interface for it, or just providing ideas and input. Please PM me.

As for not reading the thread, I had just found this thread after looking into another hack, and so I didn't have time to read it all through yet.

Thanks.

[Stangsta]

Hi Stangsta, Hi SuperFly.

I just took the time to read through the entire thread. Looks like some good things are planned between Stangsta and VBintense.

I would really like to contribute to the project, whether its building a template interface for it, or just providing ideas and input. Please PM me.

As for not reading the thread, I had just found this thread after looking into another hack, and so I didn't have time to read it all through yet.

Thanks.Its all good man, again...nothing personal.

Right now, there are ALOT of GREAT ideas that have been put on the table. But we can't get ahead of ourselves either. Right now, the only thing we may need is an additional EXPERIENCED coder that can possibly take some of the workload off of vbintense. Once we get to the point where there is beta code to play with, we can move forward. Until then, we all (including myself) need to be patient.

[toolblast]

Agreed. If you need any help with design or feedback, PM me or email me at chadfullerton@gmail.com

I think we need to not turn this thread into what became of the VBspaces thread. Instead, we need to wait for you guys to put together a working public beta, and then after that we can start to give good/bad feedback.

With patience comes reward :)

Keep in touch, I'll keep this thread on notify.

[Benj]

suggestion maybe some kind of intergration with vB Pager so we can have an instant messenger kind of feature... ive read over this thread just to make something clear. Is this planned to be a kind of module system in which people or coders can add modules. If so i take removing features would be a case of removing modules ;)

thanks for your work guys :D

[The Chief]

suggestion maybe some kind of intergration with vB Pager so we can have an instant messenger kind of feature... ive read over this thread just to make something clear. Is this planned to be a kind of module system in which people or coders can add modules. If so i take removing features would be a case of removing modules ;)

thanks for your work guys :D
Yes, I think they have thought of implementing a module add-on system :)

[toolblast]

My impression was it would be modular. I definately think that would be a good idea for developers to build their own modules.

[vBintense]

It is modular , this is something for best of the community. So once we are done we can allow others to add to it if it is something we do not feel the need for.

I got a bit done this weekend, not as much as I would have liked but the lawn needed mowed and since none here did it for me I was forced to :)

[toolblast]

hahaha. The lawn gets first priority ;)

Glad you could work on it :-) When you can a chance could you post a "latest completed features" list or something of that nature? It makes me happy to see progress hehe. :)

And if you need any help just holla

[The Chief]

hahaha. The lawn gets first priority ;)

Glad you could work on it :-) When you can a chance could you post a "latest completed features" list or something of that nature? It makes me happy to see progress hehe. :)

And if you need any help just holla
Same, updates are fun haha :p

[mightyb]

Yea, id rather see something along the lines of: 1 button added

Than silence :D

[FlyBoy73]

You guys are great... ;) Take your time and get it done right. Just please no one year time line for the first release.. :p

[toolblast]

You guys are great... ;) Take your time and get it done right. Just please no one year time line for the first release.. :p

Hehe, my thought exactly. A little progress report each week like:

WEEK OF JUNE 14th
------------------
- Got a custom profile template made
- Got avatars working
- Bought myself a nice coffee and donut today

Anything would be nice :)

[KevNJ]

guys remember.. they are doing this for free.. and have real jobs to pay the bills......they said they would post on anything thats significant.. until then assume its being coded hour here and an hour there...

[vbreal]

I have been asking for this for about 2 months now. Is there anyway you can include in your mod a way for the private messages to resemble myspace or at least have the person avatar next to the PM. The PM section is soooooooo boring. But have it where if a person has avatars off it wouldn't show in the PM area. Some users are at work and want things as simple as possible.



I didn't see a reply to this. Wanted to make sure it didn't go unnoticed thanks.

[toolblast]

Hmm, I didn't see that post RealTalk. I am not sure if private messaging is within the scope of this project either.

KevNJ, yes we know this isn't a full time scripting project, we aren't expecting them to be working on this 24/7, so that is why a casual progress report would be nice whenever they feel it is useful to post one.

Thanks.

[Coldhands]

I didn't see a reply to this. Wanted to make sure it didn't go unnoticed thanks.

All that is, is a template modification. You could easily edit the template, add the appropriate width of the columns, add a few images here and there, then add a few div tags with your own classes, update your css file and you're there. It should take a few hours, but nothing to hard, just tedious.

[Stangsta]

Hehe, my thought exactly. A little progress report each week like:

WEEK OF JUNE 14th
------------------
- Got a custom profile template made
- Got avatars working
- Bought myself a nice coffee and donut today

Anything would be nice :)Its not going to happen. Like I said, information will be reported when we feel there is something signifigant to report.

And remember, if another EXPERIENCED CODER wants to help speed the project along, that option is there, PM me if you are interested.

[Benj]

Its not going to happen. Like I said, information will be reported when we feel there is something signifigant to report.

And remember, if another EXPERIENCED CODER wants to help speed the project along, that option is there, PM me if you are interested.


toolblast i name you ............ hahha sounds like some kinda pokamon call. I dunno toolblast said hes willing to help :D if i could code i would..... hey im good with photoshop i can make images / buttons :D

[vBintense]

Sorry if I have been silent, work is being done. But as stangsta said we are trying to keep it down to only updating now when something is worth saying.

I will next update when I feel it is ready for screen shots and such. That could be tomorrow or next week. The system is actually taking shape to the point I am happy.

[toolblast]

Well at least you said a screenshot update would be tomorrow or next week. Not... next year. Thats at least a hint that you are definately a good progress into the project to be able to show screenshots that are 'worth' showing and 'significant'. :)

[KevNJ]

Well at least you said a screenshot update would be tomorrow or next week. Not... next year. Thats at least a hint that you are definately a good progress into the project to be able to show screenshots that are 'worth' showing and 'significant'. :)


vBIntense said and "I will next update when I feel it is ready for screen shots and such. That could be tomorrow or next week."

COULD! It does not mean it will be tomorrow or next week. Could be 2 weeks could be a month, could be longer. But the word here is could.

[amykhar]

The trick to this stuff is to never start a thread about a mod until you release the mod. ;)

[Adrian Schneider]

The trick to this stuff is to never start a thread about a mod until you release the mod. ;)
I think that depends highly on your motives. ;)

Everyone should be patient. These things take time! I also think the coders shouldn't get everyone's hopes up without expecting them to act like this...

[rice]

I am new to this site and am just learning the system and vbulletin as well...i have to say, as a newbie, i love this thread simply because i think it's cool. not only am i really looking forward to the mod, i am somewhat watching little steps that are happening. i am starting to learn some coding, reading and learning, i just like to watch how the whole thing is being formed in this thread.

thanks,

rice

[criscokid]

I've just taken a look at SirAdrian's site and noticed he's been hard at work developing blog software that fully intergrates with vB. Since the vBSpace solution is going to be modular it looks like vB Blog (or whatever it's going to be called) (http://www.siradrian.com/showthread.php?p=7#post7) will be a great complement and bring even more great features to end users.

[The Chief]

I've just taken a look at SirAdrian's site and noticed he's been hard at work developing blog software that fully intergrates with vB. Since the vBSpace solution is going to be modular it looks like vB Blog (or whatever it's going to be called) (http://www.siradrian.com/showthread.php?p=7#post7) will be a great complement and bring even more great features to end users.
I second that thought :D

[vbreal]

All that is, is a template modification. You could easily edit the template, add the appropriate width of the columns, add a few images here and there, then add a few div tags with your own classes, update your css file and you're there. It should take a few hours, but nothing to hard, just tedious.

man i don't have the slightest idea of how to do that. i have tried before. Lets just say it was a complete mess ha

[criscokid]

All that is, is a template modification. You could easily edit the template, add the appropriate width of the columns, add a few images here and there, then add a few div tags with your own classes, update your css file and you're there. It should take a few hours, but nothing to hard, just tedious.
What would be very useful is some sort of step by step guide then people can do it for themselves. A large portion of people on here don't have the knowledge or confidence to go 'tampering' with templates - to them the contents of a template is like trying to read a foreign language.

[Alan @ CIT]

The trick to this stuff is to never start a thread about a mod until you release the mod. ;)

Agreed, I live by that rule :)

Thanks,
Alan.

[Shaliza]

I don't see a problem with starting a thread just as long as you have the right intentions & don't give out false information. It's cool to keep people like myself updated so that we're not sitting there like "WTF is going on?"

[GamerJunk.net]

All I have to say is this is a very dumb idea when compared to Zoints.

So basically you want ever forum to have social networking capabilities which will spread the entire internet community thin. Each site will have it's own network, people will have to create multiple profiles and set one up on each site they visit? Retarded. Zoints networks everything into one profile for all the participating forums that has it. Why don't you use that solution rather than driving the social networking fad through the ground?

[rabidkevin]

All I have to say is this is a very dumb idea when compared to Zoints.

So basically you want ever forum to have social networking capabilities which will spread the entire internet community thin. Each site will have it's own network, people will have to create multiple profiles and set one up on each site they visit? Retarded. Zoints networks everything into one profile for all the participating forums that has it. Why don't you use that solution rather than driving the social networking fad through the ground?
What's the difference between "social networking spread thin" and the thousands upon thousands of currently existing forums? MANY forums cater to very specific userbase and are not trying to compete with myspace. We want some of the features for our current members. You sound like a zoints salesman.

[amykhar]

If this thread turns into a Zoints debate, I will close it. The purpose of this thread is to discuss development of a profile page modification not to discuss a commercial mod.

[friendly]

I really like how these sites link to a user's favorite events,venues or scenes and then show which users are interested in similar things.

http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=38796

http://www.yelp.com/

It would also be helpful for admin to have the ability to disable custom profile designs and stick with a default template. It just keeps things cleaner and less cluttered.

Compare the Dodgeball user page (http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=38796)to the same user's MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/loganlee) -- ugghhh!
Don't get me wrong -- It's great to have a choice and there's something to be said for individuality and uniqueness, but those who can't live without the flashy, blinged out look are always welcome to link to their MySpace pages.

[criscokid]

http://www.dodgeball.com/user?uid=38796
I love that layout!! The friends photos down the right hand side - as well as the 'friends of friends' block. In my mind if a users sees this sort of page with lot's of 'friendships' they'll get the the feeling of a 'busy site' and invite their friends to join.

[friendly]

I thought so too. :) Some sites lend themselves to bling and others by nature of their content need to be more... shall we say... minimal and clean in appearance.

[criscokid]

Minimal and clean is my favourite and overall they are likely to be more sucessful for a number of reasons... easy on the eyes so people who are visually impaired can still use the site with easy... easy to use so people who aren't technically clued up and new to the 'net can use the site with ease. At the end of the day 'less is more'.

[amykhar]

David, I issued the warning as soon as I saw the post concering the other mod. And, now I am going to go clean up the debate that occurred after the warning.

[rabidkevin]

If i put the Myspace Profile rewrite & Myspace UserCP rewrite that currently exist on to my forums, is it going to be a pain to revert back and use vbpsace?

[SuperFly]

If i put the Myspace Profile rewrite & Myspace UserCP rewrite that currently exist on to my forums, is it going to be a pain to revert back and use vbpsace?


Not at all, a simple revert of templates woulds all be needed, under 10 seconds.

[FlyBoy73]

:up: David, I issued the warning as soon as I saw the post concering the other mod. And, now I am going to go clean up the debate that occurred after the warning.

[The Chief]

Any updates on this vB Intense or Stangsta?

[GamerJunk.net]

What's the difference between "social networking spread thin" and the thousands upon thousands of currently existing forums? MANY forums cater to very specific userbase and are not trying to compete with myspace. We want some of the features for our current members. You sound like a zoints salesman.
No I'm not a salesmen for them.

I'm just saying, a modification like this basically is going to break the social networking phenomenon. The clones such as phpfox and others that try to mimic myspace are all but imitations with no innovation.

After something has been imitated and duplicated enough it loses it's value.

[Shaliza]

How do you know every person will try to make some sort of myspace clone? You don't know that for a fact. Some people may want something like this just for themselves, friends & family.

[Rich]

No I'm not a salesmen for them.

I'm just saying, a modification like this basically is going to break the social networking phenomenon. The clones such as phpfox and others that try to mimic myspace are all but imitations with no innovation.

After something has been imitated and duplicated enough it loses it's value.

Who cares?! Truth be told, this modification is going to have NO effect on the existing sites. The liklihood that a modification made to vBulletin could/would corrupt existing and established sites is highly unlikely.

If "social networking" loses its "value" as you put it, something else will come along and takes it place. Its how the net works.

The fact that YOU don't care for this modification can be rectified easily. Stop following this thread, stop posting in this thread, and don't install this modification when it is released. Tada, problem is solved!

[toolblast]

Any updates on this vB Intense or Stangsta?

I haven't seen any updates on this thread in a while. Other than the first initial posts about what you guys were working on, there hasn't been any posts since then except to say that you wont tell us anything until its worthwhile...

2 weeks... 3 weeks... nothing new. Can we hear an update?

Thanks :)

[The Chief]

I haven't seen any updates on this thread in a while. Other than the first initial posts about what you guys were working on, there hasn't been any posts since then except to say that you wont tell us anything until its worthwhile...

2 weeks... 3 weeks... nothing new. Can we hear an update?

Thanks :)
Thanks toolblast :)

[Qwest]

Yeah it's not even really about a progress report as much just to let us know you're still working the project. A lot of coders seem to just quit projects and never announce it.

And with the history of this hack... well you can see why we are wondering.

[toolblast]

And with the history of this hack... well you can see why we are wondering.

haha. Well spoken.

On a lighter note, I am working to try and put together a big list of 'wannabe features' for the ultimate profile plugin. I am putting together a list of 'dream features', as I try to remember some of the ones we all brought to the table in the Zoints thread on this forum (which was deleted). So if you guys have a few minutes, please PM ME your list of "dream features" that you would want in your user profiles to make your forum better.

Then this list will be taken to the people working on the latest non-centralized profile solutions (Zlite, IP, VBspaces2... whatever) and let them see what the best ideas are and help them build their hacks.

PM ME HERE:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/private.php?do=newpm&u=50392

[toolblast]

Still no updates :( where are you guys!?

[mightyb]

I guess its not as easy as it looks coding this hack.

[rabidkevin]

hehe i think we all should stop getting our hopes up...

[toolblast]

Ok how about this question...

Is there ANY vb coder reading this message right now that:
a) believes he can code this hack
b) thinks he can do it in a timely manner
c) agrees that giving updates is important
d) would create this plugin for money if required

Please PM me or post in this thread your name and email. I would like to get in touch with you to discuss creating this hack/plugin and how much it would cost to do so. I have a budget I am willing to throw around if something like this can be done in a timely fashion. PM me, thanks!

[influence]

maybe they waiting for 3.6 gold to be out and then code it for 3.6 but then again they said it aint any big diffence with the coding in 3.5 and 3.6 and most current 3.5 hacks should work on it.

I am beginning to think that there will be no such hack like this on here unless you hired someone. Everyone is just bullshitting with their silent treatment or secretive or hiding things from us and then the end result is to suprise us with something we dont want on our community or some stupid catch

*back to ignoring this thread, please dont bump it back up*

[toolblast]

I agree with Influence.

Remember Influence that if they were going to 'wait until 3.6'.. then I would assume that news would be worthwhile meantioning... and they haven't made an announcement in such a long time.

And for that reason, I am now assuming that the project is on hold or scrapped and that they are busy working on other paid projects.

Thanks

[Paul M]

Toolblast ;

I have edited your post slightly - if you are willing to pay then please post your request in the service requests forum. Thanks.

[toolblast]

Will do. Thanks Paul for your post.

For everyone subscribed to this thread, I got impatient with waiting and decided to take matters into my own hands and develop the script myself along with Gio~logist (a respected Vb.org member that will not let you down).

Please post your list of 'dream features' for a new profile system as well as ideas for a script name here:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1027504

UPDATE: New URL: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=120874

Thanks everyone for your participation!

[Shaliza]

Wow, did you expect it whipped up in a month or something? Sweet mother of Jesus.

[criscokid]

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1027504
Results in "you do not have permission to access this page" - what's up?

[Benj]

Results in "you do not have permission to access this page" - what's up?
same here

[Lizard King]

Results in "you do not have permission to access this page" - what's up?
The correct link is
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=120930

[criscokid]

The correct link is https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=120930
That's for the Mod Request - you can't post replies to mod requests.

[Lizard King]

That's for the Mod Request - you can't post replies to mod requests.
I am aware of that but you told the link shows no permission error and i gave you the correct link.

[criscokid]

If you take a look at post 224 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1027176&postcount=224) you'll see that Toolblast posted "Please post your list of 'dream features' for a new profile system as well as ideas for a script name here" and gave a URL. The URL that he gave is the space where we're meant to throw ideas around. I suspect the moderators have closed the thread because it relates to paid for mod that may get sold on in the future (you'll see that mendtioned in the mod request form).

[toolblast]

Hi everyone

Sorry about the confusion. The thread Url WAS correct. But guess what... a vb.org admin deleted the thread for this reason:

Hello toolblast,

I have deleted your thread "NEW CONTEST - Name that hack (prizes!)" due to:

=====================
Sorry no contests allowed.
Feel free however to just start a thread asking for name suggestions (if your hack will be released here at vb.org).
=====================


Greetings,

Marco van Herwaarden

Ridiculous? I think so. No contests? Thats pretty stupid in my opinion. However, I have started a new thread without meantion of any contest.

Go here:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=121001 <-- NEW URL

Thanks!

[KevNJ]

Wow, did you expect it whipped up in a month or something? Sweet mother of Jesus.


Yea pretty much by the way this thread started.

Check the date of the start of this thread.. and the date of this post.. which is post 13
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=995391&postcount=13

So yea... we did expect it pretty quickly, they have coded items before so they are known to members of the forums so it was expected not to be a long coding process from how it came out of the gate based on what had been said at the start. Sure things change. Thats understandable. But no updates in a long time.

[toolblast]

Yes Kev, exactly the reason why we took matters into our own hands. Its time to get this hack done finally!! :)

[Takamine334]

I think it's so funny that the VBSpace didn't come out and I was the first to call BS on DannyVBT.

[SuperFly]

Funny it did come out, too bad its just not what half of the crybabies wanted.

[caliman]

Funny it did come out, too bad its just not what half of the crybabies wanted.

It came out? Where is it?

[toolblast]

It came out? Where is it?

I was about to say the same thing...

Oh... and "Zoints" doesnt count.

[SuperFly]

Funny zoints does count, its just not what everyone wanted.

Zoints is VBSpace.

[The Chief]

Zoints is VBSpace.

That's a big term right there, so painful to hear ;)

[toolblast]

hehe True...

But I thought he meant that the vbspace hack (not zoints) was released before Zoints came out.

[Qwest]

Wow why is the vb.org staff being +++++++s about this: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1031181&postcount=35

Closing a thread because he feels you "have enough suggestions"?

Don't lie, state the real reason you closed the thread or come up with a better excuse. Because a 3 page couple day old thread can't possibly be draining resources or anything.

[PennylessZ28]

Cuase only a 100 different people have claimed to be working on a vbspace solution and most have failed to produce anything.

Danny went into hidding and his leg humpers claim they've all seen this magically vbspace, there are two other systems which you have to pay for, and a lot more people claiming they are working on something.

It's all BULLSHIT and the moderators here know it.

[toolblast]

Is the fact that we now have a team of vb coders, a vb.org staff member, and myself working on this project make it "bullshit". I think not.

I think you need to get your facts straight before making assumptions Pennyless.

If my thread was closed because the fact that "100's" of people have claimed to be working on vbspaces solutions... then THIS thread I'm typing in right now should have been closed AGES ago.

Update: I love how the staff keep surpressing any attempts to make this profile hack. We were sick of the 2 last failed attempts, so we are making this a reality now with a proper organized team of coders. There WILL be a LITE free version released on vb.org, so there should be no problems here, but if all the threads keep getting closed, this hack will never be able to progress here on vb.org and we'll have to move to another forum to talk about it.

[PennylessZ28]

Is the fact that we now have a team of vb coders, a vb.org staff member, and myself working on this project make it "bullshit". I think not.

I think you need to get your facts straight before making assumptions Pennyless.

If my thread was closed because the fact that "100's" of people have claimed to be working on vbspaces solutions... then THIS thread I'm typing in right now should have been closed AGES ago.

PROVE IT.

Who's working on it with you? I'm sure you might be working on it. I have my own product coming out. just to FYI, I'm HR3rdGEN, I released the first MYSPACE PROFILE TEMPLATE MOD (Which Stangsta took the liberity of following up) and then requested it be removed becuase I was tired of supporting it and I was working on something new.

But I'm not making polls and making claims and talking all over the site about it. Matter of fact I've been silent until the recent addition to my signature.

Psionic Vision also has his own Interactive Profile System as he calls it, which he sells freely on his own site. Of course paid modifications aren't allowed or supported here, so there isn't much talk from him.

My facts are fine from my perspective, these threads have been going on for lil over a year now, with no one actually producing.

So produce something, or prove something, otherwise, your just another TOOL claiming he is working on this oh great solution.

Zoints wasn't what people were expecting, but it is in a since VPSPACE.

[toolblast]

Hi Pennyless.

Sure, I will be making an official thread announcing what we are up to very soon that you can feel free to reply in. I am very aware of Psionic Vision and his Interactive Profile System, I am a super moderator on his forum.

I can't say anything over this forum right now until I have run it by the people on the team, but I can speak with you on MSN or YIM gladly about the progress we are going through to settle your mind at ease.

Please PM me your MSN email. Thanks.

[PennylessZ28]

Hi Pennyless.

Sure, I will be making an official thread announcing what we are up to very soon that you can feel free to reply in. I am very aware of Psionic Vision and his Interactive Profile System, I am a super moderator on his forum.

I can't say anything over this forum right now until I have run it by the people on the team, but I can speak with you on MSN or YIM gladly about the progress we are going through to settle your mind at ease.

Please PM me your MSN email. Thanks.

Then you might know about my universial "cookie cutter" profile system if you're a mod over there.

I don't use MSN, just AIM, Yahoo and IRC.

I believe strongly that I have the final end right solution to the whole stupid debate and needs.

[toolblast]

Im not sure what you are referring to by "cookie cutter" profile system.

You did meantion you were working on a new template for the usercp:
have been developing a new product system that replaces the member template and user cp all together. It uses a module box system, simlair to vbadvanced and allows the admin to set a default layout and select from 50 permade profile fields, rather than having to create them. Then the user can control their profile by arranging the blocks like an admin would arrange the blocks for vbadvanced

--Chad

[PennylessZ28]

not a template, actually I'm trying to keep it as private as possible right now, it's almost ready and right now I'm making talking with vbulletin developers about intergrating the system in the next vb release.

See I never intended to code a buddies or friends, or comments, blogs, etc blah blah blah.

I just made a system, that has a cookie cutter effect and allows for other people to simply add modules and for coders to develope modules. Imagine if you will, if vbulletin just came with a neat profile with the same current fields, and a more hooks on the page along with a module_shell.
I was trying to explain it by comparing it to vbadvanced, did a lousy job.

[toolblast]

Well we will also be developing a 'module' based system to allow third party developers to make their own modules.

If you are interested in joining our development team and integrating your 'cookie cutter' module system with our modules then you are invited to PM me. Otherwise, I am not sure what you're wanting me to say.

Feel free to PM me your email and we can discuss this via email, and im going to add you to YIM.