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ThorstenA
03-27-2006, 10:00 PM
Do not show who's online for guests
for vbulletin 3.5

Integrated in vbulletin 3.6

What does this product do?

This very easy to use product turns off who's online for guests on forumhome / forumdisplay / showthread and therefore dramaticely improves forum speed if you have lots of guests. Turning off who's online for gaining speed is suggested by eva2000 in vbulletin.com > server configuration forum (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14). My forum was slow having 150 users browsing my forum, now it's running with more than 300 users online.

Installation information

Files edited: 0
Templates edited: 0
Files to upload: 0
DB Tables changed: 0
Additional queries: 0
Changed queries: 0
Time to install: 10 seconds max


Installation / Update / Deinstallation

Installation: Import the file as a product > admincp > who's online for guests > settings. Done.
Update: Import the file as a product (allow overwrite: yes) > admincp > who's online for guests > settings. Done.
Deinstallation: admincp > manage products > deinstall. Done.


Please click Install (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/vborg_miscactions.php?do=installhack&threadid=111560) if you installed this product. So you can get information if product improves. Thank you.

Updates

1.1 (28-03-2006) option in admincp for forumhome, forumdisplay, showthread
1.0 (28-03-2006) Release


Flagged for future releases

Forumhome

Do not show events
Do not show birthdays

general

Disable search
Do not show forumjump
only disable if server load is higher than x





This hack may not be copied, reproduced or published elswhere without my permission.
Please take attention: I take no responsibility for anything of what this product could do anywhere (forum, other software, server ...).

ThorstenA
03-28-2006, 11:14 AM
[ reserved ]

puertoblack2003
03-28-2006, 11:44 AM
Great hack by the way, But curiuos wouldn't it be nice to view who's online as far as the guest and that way you can tell where they are searching at..reason why i asked because sometimes i can calculate the percentage of the time where the guest goes too and maybe i can make modification to what they are intrested in and have a better chance of them registering..Just Curiuos if this hack suits me...:)

Snake
03-28-2006, 11:46 AM
Sweet! Just what I've been looking for. :)

projectego
03-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Very useful hack, cheers. :)

Barakat
03-28-2006, 12:06 PM
thanks ... great one

MissKalunji
03-28-2006, 12:09 PM
I been looking for the same thing! but wouldn't that turn off the display of the bots as well?

ThorstenA
03-28-2006, 12:26 PM
Great hack by the way, But curiuos wouldn't it be nice to view who's online as far as the guest and that way you can tell where they are searching at..reason why i asked because sometimes i can calculate the percentage of the time where the guest goes too and maybe i can make modification to what they are intrested in and have a better chance of them registering..Just Curiuos if this hack suits me...:)
Registered users can see the guests surfing the forums. Only the guests do not see who's online.
I been looking for the same thing! but wouldn't that turn off the display of the bots as well?
Registered users can see bots. Only bots as unregistered users can not see who's online.

coolnikin
03-28-2006, 12:39 PM
Works fine, thx 4 the plugin :)

ThorstenA
03-28-2006, 12:54 PM
New update: Version 1.1 (28-03-2006) option in admincp for forumhome, forumdisplay, showthread

puertoblack2003
03-28-2006, 01:00 PM
Registered users can see the guests surfing the forums. Only the guests do not see who's online.

Registered users can see bots. Only bots as unregistered users can not see who's online.

ok gotcha , i'll give it a go ;)

Snake
03-28-2006, 01:08 PM
New update: Version 1.1 (28-03-2006) option in admincp for forumhome, forumdisplay, showthread
Thanks for the update again!

amykhar
03-28-2006, 01:20 PM
Time for a real stupid question on my part. How does this improve upon the setting that's already in the control panel that turns off who's online by usergroup?

ThorstenA
03-28-2006, 01:41 PM
Time for a real stupid question on my part. How does this improve upon the setting that's already in the control panel that turns off who's online by usergroup?
1. The setting you mentioned is just for the online.php script (see below). This product does not improve this setting.
2. This product here is for selecting the guest view of who's online on forumhome, forumdisplay and showthread.


Can View Who's Online
This permission allows members of this group to view the online.php page. This page shows a detailed list of currently active users, their locations, etc. This permission only applies to online.php, not the "Currently Active Users" list on the forumhome page.

Reported locations do take forum permissions into consideration. For example, if a user in the online list is viewing a forum that the current logged in user doesn't have access to, then online.php will only report that they are viewing a forum and not give the name of the forum.

Who's online must be enabled in your vBulletin options for this permission to have any effect. Additionally, there are several Who's online settings on that page in your vBulletin options.

Andreas
03-28-2006, 01:44 PM
@amykhar
The WOL box on Forumhome still shows up for Guests, even if they don't have permission to view WOL.
Though I wonder if it really gives such a huge performance boost, as it already doesn't show up for spiders.

puertoblack2003
03-28-2006, 01:49 PM
great hack installed did not notice any performance change but it did what i expected good job:banana:

Nathan2006
03-28-2006, 02:07 PM
Thank you ThorstenA

Install:D

amykhar
03-28-2006, 02:42 PM
Ah. I always just used conditionals to block it, and never really considered the performance impact it might have because the list is still calculated.

I guess this would be worth pursuing if you were trying to squeeze performance out of a shared server.

ThorstenA
03-28-2006, 02:46 PM
Ah. I always just used conditionals to block it, and never really considered the performance impact it might have because the list is still calculated.

I guess this would be worth pursuing if you were trying to squeeze performance out of a shared server.
I also just blocked who's online for guests for design reasons. On my dedicated server forum was slow when 150 users were browsing. But now I can handle 300 users using this product. If you installed this hack, please click Install so you have faster access to updates.

amykhar
03-28-2006, 04:31 PM
I have not installed it, otherwise I would have clicked install ;)

Pagandream
03-29-2006, 11:43 AM
cool. works perfect for my site, now their is more speed!

ThorstenA
03-29-2006, 03:17 PM
cool. works perfect for my site, now their is more speed!
Same for me. You can also just turn off who's online for guests on forumdisplay and showthread, so most unregistered users even do not notice that who's online is not available.

WNxWakko
03-30-2006, 12:51 AM
hmm, I dont get it. You can just turn off guests in the VB Options and only have it show members. So this mod seems useless, unless of course I am missing something here.

ThorstenA
03-30-2006, 03:15 AM
hmm, I dont get it. You can just turn off guests in the VB Options and only have it show members. So this mod seems useless, unless of course I am missing something here.

1. The setting you mentioned is just for the online.php script (see below).
2. This product here is for selecting the guest view of who's online on forumhome, forumdisplay and showthread.


Can View Who's Online
This permission allows members of this group to view the online.php page. This page shows a detailed list of currently active users, their locations, etc. This permission only applies to online.php, not the "Currently Active Users" list on the forumhome page.

Reported locations do take forum permissions into consideration. For example, if a user in the online list is viewing a forum that the current logged in user doesn't have access to, then online.php will only report that they are viewing a forum and not give the name of the forum.

Who's online must be enabled in your vBulletin options for this permission to have any effect. Additionally, there are several Who's online settings on that page in your vBulletin options.

(see also #14 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=936189&postcount=14))

Brandon Sheley
03-30-2006, 06:36 AM
nice
/me clicked install

ThorstenA
03-30-2006, 07:49 PM
Two days after release around 60 installs and it seems to work everywhere nice ... :D

dsotmoon
03-30-2006, 10:07 PM
installed this a couple days ago and is working great

cuphongle
03-30-2006, 10:15 PM
wow, thanksss

WNxWakko
03-30-2006, 11:02 PM
Ah, got it. Installed, thanks for the explaination.

Wayne2k1.com
03-31-2006, 12:28 PM
Installed :)
Thanks man

ThorstenA
04-03-2006, 05:47 AM
I am planing to add this features:

forumhome

Do not show events
Do not show birthdays


general

Do not show forumjump

RaZor Edge
04-03-2006, 07:14 AM
Great ideas ThorstenA!!

Just click install!!

Rickie3
04-16-2006, 09:26 AM
just found this by mistake reading HOTM for april,ive installed and works great,won my vote cheers

Speedy131
04-16-2006, 08:29 PM
for me, the who's online thing only shows up in the forumhome

for the forumdisplay and showthread it's more like "who's browsing this forum/thread" right ?

installed it, gonna see if helps to speed up the forum and keep an eye on the new registrations if they drop or not

BANDiT600
04-17-2006, 09:58 AM
/me installed this hack! And think that it's a great hack!!!

Xajel
04-18-2006, 02:39 PM
Just a stupid question...

what the diff. between this plug-in and the built-in forum permission option to hide Who's on-line for Guest/unlogged users ??

beano33
04-18-2006, 07:49 PM
I am planing to add this features:

forumhome

Do not show events
Do not show birthdays


general

Do not show forumjump


If you're going to add all that, might as well add search, and make it conditional on server load. :D

Unexplained.tv
04-19-2006, 06:57 AM
Installed and working perfectly!

jmw
04-21-2006, 07:15 PM
If you're going to add all that, might as well add search, and make it conditional on server load. :D

Agree, please add SEARCH too if you can. It would be nice if it would display instead a short message in color like "register to use this feature" or "you can't use this feature as you are not registered. Please register now". I guess it would increase sign ups... Text should be optional and with CMS.

dinodonk
04-21-2006, 07:36 PM
Installed.... Thanks alot..

ThorstenA
04-22-2006, 05:12 PM
Thanks for your suggestions. I will take them into consideration.

ThorstenA
04-22-2006, 05:13 PM
Just a stupid question...

what the diff. between this plug-in and the built-in forum permission option to hide Who's on-line for Guest/unlogged users ??

1. The setting you mentioned is just for the online.php script (see below) ;)
2. This product here is for selecting the guest view of who's online on forumhome, forumdisplay and showthread :)


Can View Who's Online
This permission allows members of this group to view the online.php page. This page shows a detailed list of currently active users, their locations, etc. This permission only applies to online.php, not the "Currently Active Users" list on the forumhome page.

Reported locations do take forum permissions into consideration. For example, if a user in the online list is viewing a forum that the current logged in user doesn't have access to, then online.php will only report that they are viewing a forum and not give the name of the forum.

Who's online must be enabled in your vBulletin options for this permission to have any effect. Additionally, there are several Who's online settings on that page in your vBulletin options.

(see also #14 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=936189&postcount=14))

Cyn
04-22-2006, 08:01 PM
Works perfectly. Thanks!!

Guest210212002
04-24-2006, 02:46 PM
/me clicks install

HBC
04-24-2006, 09:58 PM
works great! sweet!

utw-Mephisto
05-01-2006, 06:35 PM
/me clicked install too

almukmin
05-03-2006, 06:46 PM
Can you also shows a message there that says something like "Available to Members Only"? That'd be awesome.

xss illz
05-04-2006, 03:29 PM
I just noticed it doesnt show the online stat at all would adding just the stat defeat the mods purpose??

It would be a nice add on to let those browsing know rather the forum is highly active or dry.

Coast to Coast
05-08-2006, 04:41 AM
I've installed this on the Above Top Secret forum -

Martin64
05-12-2006, 07:44 PM
* Martin64 licks install

BTW, what's the difference between this hack and just turning off who's online per usergroup for guests? j/k ;)

ThorstenA
05-14-2006, 08:32 AM
* Martin64 licks install

BTW, what's the difference between this hack and just turning off who's online per usergroup for guests? j/k ;)

1. The setting you mentioned is just for the online.php script (see below) ;)
2. This product here is for selecting the guest view of who's online on forumhome, forumdisplay and showthread :)


Can View Who's Online
This permission allows members of this group to view the online.php page. This page shows a detailed list of currently active users, their locations, etc. This permission only applies to online.php, not the "Currently Active Users" list on the forumhome page.

Reported locations do take forum permissions into consideration. For example, if a user in the online list is viewing a forum that the current logged in user doesn't have access to, then online.php will only report that they are viewing a forum and not give the name of the forum.

Who's online must be enabled in your vBulletin options for this permission to have any effect. Additionally, there are several Who's online settings on that page in your vBulletin options.

(see also #14 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=936189&postcount=14))

Martin64
05-14-2006, 11:16 AM
Hehe I hope you know I was kidding. :p

Anyway, the hack works great, it surely makes a difference on big boards, one of our boards usually has between 500 and 1000 guests and it's flying now. :)

ThorstenA
05-15-2006, 08:42 AM
Hehe I hope you know I was kidding. :p


hehe, wasn't 100 % sure, I thought it's better to just polite answer the question :)

Anyway, the hack works great, it surely makes a difference on big boards, one of our boards usually has between 500 and 1000 guests and it's flying now. :)
yeah, the same here :D This product is very easy but extremely effective ;)

GrendelKhan{TSU
05-18-2006, 09:03 AM
Can you also shows a message there that says something like "Available to Members Only"? That'd be awesome.

agreed :)

< /me clicks install :)

Mistah Roth
05-18-2006, 10:06 AM
Does this reduce any queries?

ThorstenA
05-20-2006, 09:38 PM
Does this reduce any queries?
Of course, it reduces the (rather big) queries for showing who's online and therefore improves forum speed.

COBRAws
05-21-2006, 08:12 AM
I am planing to add this features:

forumhome

Do not show events
Do not show birthdays


general

Do not show forumjump

Looking foward to this =D

The Reefkeeper
05-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Thanks.

snowbird
05-25-2006, 01:48 PM
Installed. Thank you for this nice product. Can you also shows a message there that says something like "Available to Members Only"? That'd be awesome.I agree too. :)

ThorstenA
06-13-2006, 04:41 PM
seems to work with vbulletin 3.6

nymyth
06-14-2006, 01:43 AM
nice work...installed

Peace

ThorstenA
06-15-2006, 01:04 PM
Actually, Jelsoft integrated this product into the actual vbulletin 3.6 release :D

Djamil
06-15-2006, 03:34 PM
Actually, Jelsoft integrated this product into the actual vbulletin 3.6 release :D

Where did you get this information from ? Couldn't find anything about it on vb.com.

Djamil

ThorstenA
06-16-2006, 11:01 AM
Where did you get this information from ? Couldn't find anything about it on vb.com.

They didn't mention it in their announcement forum. You can disable who's online for guests on vb 3.6 in admincp > settings > forumdisplay / showthread

Djamil
06-16-2006, 03:58 PM
They didn't mention it in their announcement forum. You can disable who's online for guests on vb 3.6 in admincp > settings > forumdisplay / showthread

Czesc,

that's very good news, thank you very much for posting this!

Djamil

ronoxQ
07-30-2006, 10:20 PM
Nice work! Installed.

(Uses 3.5 for the mods :P)

zeroality
07-31-2006, 09:50 PM
What about going into the ACP and disabling it for the Unregistered / Not Logged In group via User Manager?

It lets me click 'no' on "let this group view who's online".

So why is this MOD necessary? Am I missing something?

Pathor
08-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Installed, thanks! :)

ThorstenA
08-03-2006, 04:36 AM
What about going into the ACP and disabling it for the Unregistered / Not Logged In group via User Manager?

It lets me click 'no' on "let this group view who's online".

So why is this MOD necessary? Am I missing something?
1. The setting you mentioned is just for the online.php script (see below). This product does not improve this setting.
2. This product here is for selecting the guest view of who's online on forumhome, forumdisplay and showthread.


Can View Who's Online
This permission allows members of this group to view the online.php page. This page shows a detailed list of currently active users, their locations, etc. This permission only applies to online.php, not the "Currently Active Users" list on the forumhome page.

Reported locations do take forum permissions into consideration. For example, if a user in the online list is viewing a forum that the current logged in user doesn't have access to, then online.php will only report that they are viewing a forum and not give the name of the forum.

Who's online must be enabled in your vBulletin options for this permission to have any effect. Additionally, there are several Who's online settings on that page in your vBulletin options.

Please note: This product is integrated in vbulletin 3.6. If you have vbulletin 3.6 installed, there's no need for installing this product.

zeroality
08-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Ah I see.

ThorstenA
01-10-2007, 08:59 PM
As this product is integrated in vbulletin 3.6 there is no need to further develope it.

I have another product which saves one query each time forumdisplay is presented. It turns off annoucements on forumdisplay which is nice if you have no announcements at all in your forum. Forumdisplay is maybe around 30-40 % presented in all of your sites, so deleting a query in 30-40 % of all your site visits can improve your forum speed :)

Here is the link to the new product for vbulletin 3.6.4: (Forumdisplay) Turn off announcements & save 1 query (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=136134) Enjoy :D

kellyandmike
01-11-2007, 10:49 AM
Thanks! Great! Just what I didn't know I needed!!!

ThorstenA
03-22-2007, 08:55 AM
Thanks! Great! Just what I didn't know I needed!!!

It's completely integrated into vbulletin 3.6 However, if you are using vbulletin version 3.5 you are gaining so much speed with this small product.

tanyeri24
04-13-2007, 12:46 PM
great work. awaiting future releases as described in your first post.

blackberry
03-01-2008, 09:54 PM
<font color="Blue">woow thanks alot </font>