Member<>i am not advanced coder anymore

[Developer]

seems that's proplems must face me :confused:
are u testing the new hack DB or what?:rolleyes:
i am now had a member title not advanced coder :tired:

[Xenon]

hmm, must have had something to do with the coders usergroup....

but one install click on one of your hacks would have fixed it automatically as i did now ^^

[Trigunflame]

hmm, must have had something to do with the coders usergroup....

but one install click on one of your hacks would have fixed it automatically as i did now ^^

Whats requirements for master code btw? Not that it really matters.. just curious.

[Developer]

hmm, must have had something to do with the coders usergroup....

but one install click on one of your hacks would have fixed it automatically as i did now ^^
whoo:rolleyes:
click on all my hacks :p
Whats requirements for master code btw? Not that it really matters.. just curious.
i see a thread was talking about this
and i also see coder with more than 1000 install in one hack (his only hack)
and still coder, but i have less than 1000 but advanced coder :surprised:
we need the final word for this

[Brad]

Sorry we don't give the exact numbers out to non-admins/

[Developer]

this happend again every time i update my profile

[tehste]

I dont see the reason you dont give out the numbers?
Really these stupid things about .org are really starting to bug me. IMHO!!!1

[Kirk Y]

Yeah... that doesn't make any sense. What's the harm in telling coders how many install clicks are needed to get to the next rank?

[Developer]

i think if admins only knows the exact number this is totally fair anyway
can we back to the main point?
this happend again every time i update my profile

[ericgtr]

This also happened to me, I must have gotten another install to put my coder status back though.

As far as giving away the secret, I can understand this to an extent. With any sort of promotion system some people will try to find a way to get to the next level through any crack they can. The way it currently is seems fair to me, with the right combo of installs/code hacks you will get there eventually. :)

[Xenon]

Yeah... that doesn't make any sense. What's the harm in telling coders how many install clicks are needed to get to the next rank?

it also doesn'T make much sense to tell you....
name a good reason why you need to know the value?


as for the bug: i think i have to look into the update profile code a bit, maybe that changed during 3.0 -> 3.5 and therefore breaking our title system

[tehste]

it also doesn'T make much sense to tell you....
name a good reason why you need to know the value?


as for the bug: i think i have to look into the update profile code a bit, maybe that changed during 3.0 -> 3.5 and therefore breaking our title system
Freedom of Information (Various Legislations)
Can you give a good reason to not tell us?

[Xenon]

Yep preventing coders from splitting their hacks up, just to get a better title.

it's a choice we made and it will stay, and maybe the numbers may change, but it's still no reason why you NEED to know, it's just that you WANT to know

[Developer]

thnx Xenon,
i think if we know the the exact number we will interest in installs number and ignore the code quality and many other things

[tehste]

To be honest all I have ever wanted to be was an advanced coder. So I'm happy its just unfair to all the 'coders' who are just 'coders' even though they may be more advanced than an advanced coder. So really advanced means Popular and that's the only problem I have with it. It should either be about technical ability or not at all.

[Developer]

just work hard, do ur best people will love ur hacks they will install it, u will be master coder and don't forget to support ur hacks this is one of make people like u and ur hacks and keep updating ur hacks
that's what i do :)

[Trigunflame]

Master/Advanced means nothing anyway, ive had various in both ask me for advice and help in different aspects of coding based on my knowledge of the language itself.

I was merely curious, I dont care if I ever get the title or not ;)

ps. xeon; there are several members with 4-5 hacks, and maybe 300-400 installs that have master title; the obviousness of the changes made over time is there ;)

[leftie]

In defense of these coders, why should it be on 'install', surely more people will download rather than click install. Shouldn't it all be based on this. Give these guys the credit they deserve.

[Code Monkey]

Whatever it is, a hacks install count should be credited as half if the support option is not checked.

[leftie]

Another option would be to give these guys there own room where they could democratically invite coders in and discuss the hierchy levels.

[Paul M]

Yep preventing coders from splitting their hacks up, just to get a better title.You have staff and members to monitor that. It's not rocket science to cover it in your rules either.

it's a choice we made and it will stay, and maybe the numbers may change, but it's still no reason why you NEED to know, it's just that you WANT to know.... and it's not that you NEED to keep it secret, it's just that you WANT to .....

[Code Monkey]

Obviously, peeps can divide up hacks now, knowing that more hacks = better title. Of course, everyone would know what they are up to.

[ericgtr]

It's not hard to get a rough idea if you look around a little bit at the mods of those with the user titles. Those who have made the move from coder through master coder probably have a pretty good idea too. Still, to me it's not that big of a deal and I see no reason for it to be disclosed if that's how they like it.

[Tony G]

In defense of these coders, why should it be on 'install', surely more people will download rather than click install. Shouldn't it all be based on this. Give these guys the credit they deserve.
Well it just encourages these coders to get more members to click 'install' and helps the feature get more wide use.

In all seriousness, it's a little "surprise" here to keep the title requirements secret. Like Xenon has said, it lets coders legitimately release modifications to get to these new titles rather than doing things that would make them get there sooner which isn't fair.

[tehste]

er ye ok I can honestly say and I think alot of peeps would feel the same. If I knew what would make me a Master coder it would not change my activity or release / support pattern. I would like to know just to know.

[derekivey]

This happened to me also today. I just clicked uninstall and hit install on one of my hacks and it fixed it.

[Brad]

I think this problem stems from the coder's usergroup, go to this page: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/profile.php?do=editusergroups and make sure you're identified as a member of the licensed usergroup. That should stop the title from changing every time you edit your profile.

er ye ok I can honestly say and I think alot of peeps would feel the same. If I knew what would make me a Master coder it would not change my activity or release / support pattern. I would like to know just to know.

You're beating a dead horse. This has come up again and again and the answer has always been the same, and will likely continue to remain the same. Wanting to know 'just to know' is not really a valid excuse at the end of the day. Nor is devoting man power to the moderation of user titles a good idea.

Whatever it is, a hacks install count should be credited as half if the support option is not checked.

If anything we should reward people that give support, not punish the ones that don't. Many people simply do not have the time to give free support, or do not want to deal with the users that install their hacks, and given some of the replies I've seen to hack threads over the years I don't blame them.

[Snake]

Yeah same here. I've lost my "Coder" title. Is there any idea why it went back to "Senier Member"?

[Brad]

Plenty of fixes for this issue have already been posted in this thread.

[Chris M]

A clue Aftermath - The post above yours...

Chris

[Paul M]

Whatever it is, a hacks install count should be credited as half if the support option is not checked.That would simply make people tick it, while having no intention of actually supporting it. I see many hacks like this already - support is ticked, support is actually none existant.

Also, people don't have the means to support older hacks, support is no longer ticked in any of my 3.0 hacks because I no longer run any copies of 3.0.

[Code Monkey]

Yeah, older hacks would be a problem.

[Developer]

I think this problem stems from the coder's usergroup, go to this page: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/profile.php?do=editusergroups and make sure you're identified as a member of the licensed usergroup. That should stop the title from changing every time you edit your profile.
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yup,
Licensed and coders groups

i'd test it and back to member title

[Cap'n Steve]

To be fair, we already know that number of hacks and number of installs (and probably date joined) are all part of it, we just don't know how many installs we need.

I think the requirements are a little too strict, actually. Last time I checked the author of IBPro Arcade had 600+ installs and was still a coder. Even with 6 hacks, I doubt I'll ever get to advanced coder. :(

[Tony G]

er ye ok I can honestly say and I think alot of peeps would feel the same. If I knew what would make me a Master coder it would not change my activity or release / support pattern. I would like to know just to know.
Yeah, you wouldn't, others would.

[derekivey]

To be fair, we already know that number of hacks and number of installs (and probably date joined) are all part of it, we just don't know how many installs we need.

I think the requirements are a little too strict, actually. Last time I checked the author of IBPro Arcade had 600+ installs and was still a coder. Even with 6 hacks, I doubt I'll ever get to advanced coder. :(

You need atleast 10 hacks, because when I got my 10th hack submitted I think I got my Advanced Coder rank.

[Code Monkey]

You need atleast 10 hacks, because when I got my 10th hack submitted I think I got my Advanced Coder rank.

There are peeps with less than 10 that have it. Installs has something to do with it also.

[derekivey]

Ahh ok, prolly the more installs you have, it probably goes down.

[Paul M]

As I recall, when I changed to Master I had 27 hacks and had just passed 4,000 installs. Looking back, when I got Advanced, it was for my 10th hack, and I had a few hundred installs (over 500 I think).

[EasyTarget]

I agree with whoever said that .org just needs to make/enforce the rules. Its silly to have this s'ecret method' imo. If you need more moderators to get the job done then get more moderators. Coders are the life blood of this site, you should be trying to bend over backwards to try and please them.

Maybe you already have this, I dunno since I'm not a coder, but make a forum that just coders and mods can see/use to talk about issues like this and any other problems. I'm sure coders themselves can help point out possible exploits of the system among themselves to help the moderators.

[Code Monkey]

As I recall, when I changed to Master I had 27 hacks and had just passed 4,000 installs. Looking back, when I got Advanced, it was for my 10th hack, and I had a few hundred installs (over 500 I think).

That may be it. Didn't Michelle Just get it on her 10th hack? I was thinking she had said 5, but she has 10 once you deduct template stuff.

[Xenon]

As I recall, when I changed to Master I had 27 hacks and had just passed 4,000 installs. Looking back, when I got Advanced, it was for my 10th hack, and I had a few hundred installs (over 500 I think).

well, you're change was actually more or less a mistake i forgot to include the plugins, that's why you didn'T get the master title for such a long time ^^

[Paul M]

well, you're change was actually more or less a mistake i forgot to include the plugins, that's why you didn'T get the master title for such a long time ^^Hmm, I do seem to recall something about that now. I guess it's much less than 27/4000 then :)