Please Install PM Preview 3.5!

[akanevsky]

Please Install PM Preview 3.5!
It will help managing private messages A LOT!
Thank you!

[Paul M]

What is it ?

( Searching for it proved useless as preview is the only searchable word :rolleyes: )

[Lea Verou]

This thread seems kinda weird to me :confused:

[akanevsky]

Here: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=94954

[RS_Jelle]

If you search only in the titles of threads, you can find it :)

It's located here (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=94954).

Personally I don't like it :ermm:

Edit: Psionic Vision was too fast for me.

[akanevsky]

Well, members on my boards like it.
And it saves a lot of time if you have a lot of pms.

[Xenon]

Hmm, actually i think i don't like it as well, from what it looks like...

[akanevsky]

The advantages of that hack are that you can see the content of your messages without actually opening them. It also cuts out quotations so you only see the body of the message.

Because the installation and deinstallation takes only a minute, I believe it's worth a try.

[Tralala]

The README for the hack include an alternate method, which is that PM previous pop up as a tool-tip (when you hover over the PM title.) This is a happy compromise and my users LOVE it. Very clean, very nice. Makes it super easy to manage lots of PM's.

The hack's thread also includes a tip on how to make it user-optional:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=805701&postcount=30

[Nutz]

I find the hack very useful on my own board, and I think it would work well here :)

Thanks,
Mat

[Paul M]

Hmm, having now seen what it is, I think it would be very useful.

Most PM conversations I have with people all go back and forth between us with the same PM title - when people reply, they never change the title, even weeks later when replying on a totally unrelated matter - this makes it very hard to locate the one you're looking for when you go back to them.

[Tralala]

Also helps when pruning your PM mailbox.. no need to open up each one...

[akanevsky]

Hmm, having now seen what it is, I think it would be very useful.

Most PM conversations I have with people all go back and forth between us with the same PM title - when people reply, they never change the title, even weeks later when replying on a totally unrelated matter - this makes it very hard to locate the one you're looking for when you go back to them.

Also helps when pruning your PM mailbox.. no need to open up each one...


Exactly.

[Gio~Logist]

I second this request.

I have everything from customers to users that need help PM me here, i would like to know what each PM is about ahead of time.

[akanevsky]

Well --- I mean c'mon, a number of people have agreed with me on this, so pelase install it? There is no reason not to. k thx.

[Andreas]

Looking at the Hack, it seems useless to me - as useless as thread previews.
I always read my PMs anyway, so I don't need a preview

But that is just my personal opinion :)

[Paul M]

I always read my PMs anyway, so I don't need a previewYou didn't bother to read the rest of the posts in this thread I see, otherwise you would have seen that this is completly irrelevant to my reason for supporting it. :rolleyes:

[akanevsky]

There is one major difference between thread previews and pm previews: pm previews are displayed without hovering the mouse over the title.

I always read my pms too, but as it was pointed out earlier, it is hard to find older pms with specific content, esspecially if there is a lot of pms with the same title. Therefore, this hack is very useful for the purpose of managing old correspondence.

[Andreas]

I did read. This was just to explain why I find it useless :)

@Psionic Vision
A search function, that'd be indeed useful.

[akanevsky]

There is no need for a search functions when this hack is installed - you can literally see what the message is about without opening it.

As Paul pointed out, your explanation is completely irrelevant to the nature of this hack...

[Tralala]

Yeah, PM Preview is not for reading or searching, it's for PM management. I'm not good about deleting or filing as messages come in. I let them pile up, and then when my mailbox is almost full, I start to prune and clean things up... filtering through to see what to delete and what to keep.

Now think about how that would work currently. Open window, delete (click checkbox, confirm,) open window, delete (click checkbox, confirm,) repeat ad nauseum. There's no "Next PM/Previous PM" so quickly browsing through contents is a pain. I often try to do this with tabs, opening 20 at a time, and then deleting the PM's I want to trash and just closing the window on ones I want to keep, but even that is a pain.

With PM Preview, I can see a quick blurb of what the PM contains. And delete or keep accordingly.

(IE: it's not about searching for any one particular PM, it's about getting a birds-eye glance of ALL of them.)

I do PM Preview with the pop-up option, simply because to me it looks cleaner that way.

Many, many users have expressed how helpful it has been for them. And many users here know what I'm talking about. For PM's, it just makes sense. In pop-up mode, it blends right in and is not intrusive in any way. It just works.

Seriously; the built-in PM Management of vB is a nightmare, and this hack takes one step in the right direction of SOLVING the problem, in a clean and elegant manner. Why again would it NOT be installed?

[Andreas]

@Psionic Vision
Different people, different opinions :)
A search function is needed - I don't want to click through several pages of PMs reading all previes just to find one PM.

As for deleting PMs ... I just tick them for deletion from the list?

Previous/Next might be useful (got it on my board), though I don't use it myself.

[Tralala]

As for deleting PMs ... I just tick them for deletion from the list?

Okay, but if I've had lots of back and forths with someone, my PM list will look like this:

Re: Take a look at this
Re: Take a look at this
Re: Take a look at this
Re: Thanks
Re: Take a look at this
Re: Take a look at this
Re: Take a look at this
Re: See you at 9
Re: Take a look at this
Re: Take a look at this


...so how do I know which to tick for deletion? Yup, I have to open up each one, individually to see their contents. Which is clunky user interface.

PM Preview solves this UI conundrum in a clean and elegant way.

[Paul M]

As for deleting PMs ... I just tick them for deletion from the list?
Presumably using your ESP abilities to know which ones to tick when they all have the same title.

Here is an actual page from last week ;

11. Mar 2006 Hi.
11. Mar 2006 hi its funarule
11. Mar 2006 Re: Me again :)
11. Mar 2006 Inquiry
11. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
11. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
11. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
10. Mar 2006 Re: Me again :)
09. Mar 2006 Some direction?
08. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
08. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
08. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
08. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
07. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
07. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
07. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
07. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades
06. Mar 2006 FW: Flashchat Integration for vB 3.5
06. Mar 2006 Re: Miserable Users Hack Question
06. Mar 2006 Miserable Users Hack Question
06. Mar 2006 Re: Upgrades

Some of those "Upgrades" I want to keep, but which ones ?

[Tralala]

Ideally PM Previews could be updated to make it a User-Selectable option in UserCP. That way, those that don't like it could just turn it off. Those that like it can leave it on. Everyone's happy.

[Xenon]

Hmm, i'd prefer threadlike pms so a complete rewrite of the pm system, Andreas as you are at it, just do it :p

[akanevsky]

Complete Rewrite = takes time, while this is something already written. Just install it please.

[TruthElixirX]

I to would find this useful. Very helpful when I'm in a hurry.

And if you aren't going to install it at least give us a clear cut "No."

[Tralala]

Hmm, actually i think i don't like it as well, from what it looks like...


In tool-tip mode (pop up) you hardly know it's there. Until you need it, and then you're very, very appreciative that it's there.

[Xenon]

hmm, if it's done like the thread previews, then why not :)

i'll get brad to it ;)

[akanevsky]

Yay!!!

[Tralala]

hmm, if it's done like the thread previews, then why not :)

i'll get brad to it ;)


:banana:

In celebration of this momentous occasion I have given myself an avatar.

[EasyTarget]

I agree.. if it helps the coders, do it.

[Brad]

I has already been installed for 3 days now. ;)

[Tralala]

I has already been installed for 3 days now. ;)


See, I told ya it just blends in. :cool:

[Paul M]

I only noticed it yesterday :)

[Daniel]

Great suggestion and addition. Thanks for implementing it. :)

[akanevsky]

I don't see it. Do I need to turn it on or something?

EDIT: Ohh, I see it. However, what you did is very different from the actual hack.
The actual hack lets you see everything instantly. What you did, not only does it require a mouse over, but the mouse over does not work in Opera, which is the browser I am using... :( So the way you did it is of no use to me :( Please make it display the contents as it is in original hack.

[Tralala]

This hack would benefit from an update that lets the user choose:

On/Off
Visible Preview, or Preview via Popup

Is the author (BluPhoenix) around?

[Gio~Logist]

I don't see it to be honest. Am i missing something?

[akanevsky]

I don't see it to be honest. Am i missing something?

It only works in Internet Explorer, but not in Opera ffs... :(

[Gio~Logist]

It only works in Internet Explorer, but not in Opera ffs... :(

It's cool that they made the hover over effect. But why not just make it show below the title? If people find it annoying make an option? All that requires is a small template change and an <if statement. Don't make us beg lol :p

[Daniel]

It only works in Internet Explorer, but not in Opera ffs... :(
It works on Firefox.

[Tralala]

Also works on Safari.

[Xenon]

go get a working browser and don't blame vb.org for browser bugs ^^

[akanevsky]

Opera is a working browser. In fact, it is the most secure browser out of all others. The only thing that it is not displaying is the alt tag. Now, could you please remove the alt tag and either replace it with title="" or just install the original version of the hack please? Thanks.

[Brad]

It does use the title tag, just like the thread previews. I will change it to show under the title however, you'll just need to wait a couple of hours (I'm about to leave the house for a bit).

[akanevsky]

Let me ask you a question... If I get around to coding an extension to the hack which allows end user to choose whether to display the preview as popup or instantly, would you install that? Thanks.

[Gio~Logist]

It does use the title tag, just like the thread previews. I will change it to show under the title however, you'll just need to wait a couple of hours (I'm about to leave the house for a bit).

Yay! I'll be waiting.

[Brad]

If we added a user option for all these little things the options page in the usercp is just going to end up begin bloated. While I apperciate the offer I really don't think something like that is needed.

[Gio~Logist]

If we added a user option for all these little things the options page in the usercp is just going to end up begin bloated. While I apperciate the offer I really don't think something like that is needed.

That's true. However, i'm sure a lot of users appreciate customization.


Anyways, i'm happy as long as you end up getting it to show under title like you said :p.

[akanevsky]

Well, technically an administrator should go with the majority opinion, and the majority clearly disagrees with you on this particular issue ;).

[Tralala]

Let me ask you a question... If I get around to coding an extension to the hack which allows end user to choose whether to display the preview as popup or instantly, would you install that? Thanks.

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Choice is good! The intelligent member base here will appreciate this.

[hotwheels]

I like it......I think it helps alot.........when i have alot of pm's going on (even as Paul M stated), i can see what the basic of the pm is going to be before i open it..........

Keep up the good work Psionic Vision, it is a great hack man.......

[Developer]

good but i don't like italic text :(
Smilies not showing
if the message had a code in it, it is better to put a hover over effect for the code

[---MAD---]

looks great ty :)

[Gio~Logist]

Thank you for getting it under the title :p.

[Xenon]

looks absolutelly awful....

[Daniel]

looks absolutelly awful....
I agree, is there a way to turn this off?

[Gio~Logist]

I love it.

[Tralala]

I like the way it looks now, and I'd also be happy with the pop-up tool-tip. What I wouldn't want is to see it go away completely; I've come to really depends on this "preview" when cleaning out my in-box! :up:

[Corriewf]

looks absolutelly awful....

Optional... Just too much going on to be good on the eyes.

[akanevsky]

I really like the way it looks now, thanks.

[Dean C]

I can't stand this modification. I log in to check my PMs and it looks awful. Please, please, please make it a user option!

[Gio~Logist]

I'm fine as long as they don't take it away. This is beyond helpful at times.

[Tralala]

I'm fine as long as they don't take it away. This is beyond helpful at times.

I concur.

[evenmonkeys]

Why not just do it the way it's done with threads? O_o Or use the alt="" thinger... This is going to drive me insane.

[Gio~Logist]

Why not just do it the way it's done with threads? O_o Or use the alt="" thinger... This is going to drive me insane.

If they just make it an option they will have no problems. This is one of those hate it or love it type of things. Apparently, 50% of us hate it and 50% of us love it.

[akanevsky]

Why not just do it the way it's done with threads? O_o Or use the alt="" thinger... This is going to drive me insane.

Because if it was the way threads are, you'd still have to hover your mouse which would void the purpose of this hack.

[Paul M]

At first it looked really horrible, but I've grown used to it now ....

[Dean C]

At first it looked really horrible, but I've grown used to it now ....

Don't roll over Paul! Fight the power ;)

[Corriewf]

Don't roll over Paul! Fight the power ;)


He has been paid off by the MAN.


FIGHT THE POWER!

* Corriewf plays I fought the law and the law won.

[Paul M]

Don't roll over Paul! Fight the power ;)LOL, I think it's pretty well understood by all that I don't rollover :p It just happens that I like the preview, it just looked (looks) untidy. If it could be presented better then great, but I don't want to lose the feature. :)

[Roms]

I didn't like it at first but now it's starting to grow on me... LOL