Mods being cross-posted [Archive]

MPDev

02-17-2006, 02:05 PM

AWS

02-17-2006, 03:07 PM

Thought you might be interested; we had to send a DMCA notice to have nullified versions of our scripts removed; but it also appears they are cross posting mods from this site.

Thay also have stolen skins.

Reeve of shinra

02-17-2006, 03:09 PM

Shouldn't it be relatively easy to track who is downloading and distrubing these hacks?

I mean, whats hte odds of someone downloading EVERY hack on here?

tnguy3n

02-17-2006, 03:18 PM

They posted a few of my hacks without asking for my permission.

amykhar

02-17-2006, 03:25 PM

AN-net

02-17-2006, 03:42 PM

I am all for a license-wide ban on people who download mods from here and distribute them to others. If people continue to do this, I will eventually pull all of my mods from this site - which does not adequately protect my work - and release it only at my own site.

While we hold the copyrights to our mods, I believe it is ultimately Jelsoft's responsibility to ensure that they do the most possible to protect the content we post here.
I agree and disagree on this. I think jelsoft should give us more tools to help us safeguard of works. I understand jelsoft has a limited team of attorneys so they cant be everywhere at once and suing everyone for us. it would too costly and inefficient. ultimately it is our responsibility but jelsoft should try to offer more protective tools.

amykhar

02-17-2006, 03:59 PM

I am not looking for their lawyers to chase everybody on our behalf. I want all downloads tracked by username here. I want license-wide bans on transgressors. I want a tracker of some sort hidden in downloads so that they can tell which user here has redistributed our work. If this site is going to be the distribution site for copyrighted work, then it has to have some sort of security in place to protect that work. Especially if they are not going to enforce our copyrights.

If Jelsoft continues to worry about the privacy of the people who use our code more than the rights of the people who write the code, I think the developers should reconsider posting here.

Amy

Brad

02-17-2006, 04:11 PM

The staff and Jelsoft are aware of this site. I've removed the link from the first post to prevent unlicensed users from finding the site.

If you have released a modification here and would like to make sure it has not been uploaded to that site feel free to PM me and I will check for you.

smacklan

02-17-2006, 04:12 PM

Not to come across as racist, but in my business anyway, I have more rips and attempted fraud purchases from Vietnamese than any other group.

AN-net

02-17-2006, 05:07 PM

Not to come across as racist, but in my business anyway, I have more rips and attempted fraud purchases from Vietnamese than any other group.
Asia is the pirating area of the world.

KW802

02-17-2006, 05:38 PM

The staff and Jelsoft are aware of this site. I've removed the link from the first post to prevent unlicensed users from finding the site.Brad, would you mind removing the link from the quote in post #2 also? CinVin is also one of the sites who has stuff being redistributed on that site. :disappointed:

Paul M

02-17-2006, 06:11 PM

MPDev

02-17-2006, 07:06 PM

I think we owe it to the community to be on the lookout for these kinds of sites, which is why I posted it here. As a group we should make the effort to ensure that sites which are distributing each others works illegally are quickly shut down.

We have an effective attorney and had our items removed quickly; however, not everyone has that benefit. I would suggest posting a clean "DMCA notice" which anyone could use to send as an official request to an ISP to have content removed by the hosting company (forget dealing with the site owner, he's already proven to be a crook).

Reeve of shinra

02-17-2006, 07:12 PM

I agree with tracking the usernames... it can't be that hard to find the handful of users that must be doing this and revoking htier liscence.

If they are doing this with the mods and in the case of the original site, paid apps, chances are they are doing with vbulletin too - so its in jelsofts best interests to do this.

KTBleeding

02-17-2006, 08:40 PM

Just a quick question regarding the URL..

It was removed to prevent unlicensed users from going to the link, which is understandable.. but as was mentioned in the first post, some mods from here are being ported over without permission. Perhaps the community would like to check and see if they were a victim of that?

Would it be possible for a URL in this instance to be posted in [CODE] tags? That way unlicensed users can't see it.. or can we not trust even the licensed members with something like that?

amykhar

02-17-2006, 08:51 PM

KT, Brad already posted a solution to your problem in a post above.

KTBleeding

02-17-2006, 09:04 PM

Oh! :x

Didn't see that.. :P

smacklan

02-17-2006, 09:56 PM

or can we not trust even the licensed members with something like that?
There is at least one licensed member here I know of who associates with the owner a warez site that has stolen stuff from here. His site doesn't host files, just offsite links and his host has already refused Pirate Report's demands to shut him down. For those of you interested in learning more about this battle, I would suggest visiting Howard at www.piratereportsforum.com/index.php (http://www.piratereportsforum.com/index.php)

Tony G

02-17-2006, 11:42 PM

Amy is right in that there definitely needs to be some sort of security on the mods released here, a list of who downloads them is a good way to at least get a group of suspects.

tnguy3n

02-18-2006, 01:35 AM

There is at least one licensed member here I know of who associates with the owner a warez site that has stolen stuff from here. His site doesn't host files, just offsite links and his host has already refused Pirate Report's demands to shut him down. For those of you interested in learning more about this battle, I would suggest visiting Howard at www.piratereportsforum.com/index.php (http://www.piratereportsforum.com/index.php)

This guy has a dedicated hosting server with Ev1Hosts.com.
Domain Name.......... vietwww.com
Creation Date........ 2004-06-26
Registration Date.... 2004-06-26
Expiry Date.......... 2007-06-26
Organisation Name.... Ev1HostS.com
Organisation Address. p.o box 10115
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. westminster
Organisation Address. 92685
Organisation Address. ca
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
If you want to shut down his site, contact the data center to unplug the server.

Lizard King

02-18-2006, 09:25 AM

I know lots of Turkish sites are doing the same thing. I reported all of them and no action was taken against them. They buy a license and download all the hacks from here and release it on their site. I really hate this and i also believe Jellsoft must do something about it maybe the best solution is cancelling their license or something similar about it.

Code Monkey

02-18-2006, 02:37 PM

I would like to know the name and url of this site so I can take care of bussiness if need be.

smacklan

02-18-2006, 02:45 PM

I would like to know the name and url of this site so I can take care of bussiness if need be.
PM me and I'll give you some details.

redspider

02-18-2006, 06:51 PM

I looking at one of those site right now and is scary how they have even pay hacks there no respect for no one they have vbseo ,inferno rpg,P3tz Full Package all version of vbulletin ,GAB.1.0.Beta.2.PHP.NULL-DGT
GARS.1.0c.Geek.Auto-Linker.Pro.4.65b.
Geeker.LITE.Beta.1.GeekMart.Module.Beta.4c.

and what make it worse is there is members from here linking the hacks description from here on those sites.

there have to be a way to check if visitors guest are coming from one of those sites. like if you have 50 hits from same site soemthing is going on .

sorry for any misspell but still learning english .

also they have a contest :
post Tittle :Win a free access to vB.com & vB.org
post :
if u'd like to have access to vb.com and vb.org for a month
please PM me

Code Monkey

02-20-2006, 03:07 PM

Well, I see they have my hacks posted. This seems to be widespread. Jelsoft needs to get on some type of enforcment binge here.

Added security is a must.

Some suggestions:

Webpage listing in user profile should not be an option. Everyone should have their licensed site auto posted.

Also, just like you can see a hack authors hacks. Everyone should have installed hacks listed and maybe downloaded hacks in an admin viewable only page.

Princeton

02-20-2006, 03:33 PM

they should also ban vb members who participate in those sites

Code Monkey

02-20-2006, 03:39 PM

they should also ban vb members who participate in those sites

That's hard to prove. Also, it could be misstargeted. I had to register and post at one in order to verify the theft. They have it so you can't see the link unless you post.

I have notified the Registrar and host of the site. Unfortunately, they merely link to the files hosted on a offshore site.

Princeton

02-20-2006, 03:46 PM

That's hard to prove. Also, it could be misstargeted. I had to register and post at one in order to verify the theft. They have it so you can't see the link unless you post.

I have notified the Registrar and host of the site. Unfortunately, they merely link to the files hosted on a offshore site.

yes, you are right but something has to be done ... eg. if court proceeding exists all records can be obtained and proxy/IP/etc lookup can be accomplished ... with this information members can be banned

smacklan

02-20-2006, 04:28 PM

I have notified the Registrar and host of the site. Unfortunately, they merely link to the files hosted on a offshore site.
Good luck...I have worked with Howard at Pirate Reports to get the one you are refering to shut down, and their host has basically said to flip off (Netherlands). There is interesting history about that site and the owner of it ;)

Code Monkey

02-20-2006, 04:52 PM

Good luck...I have worked with Howard at Pirate Reports to get the one you are refering to shut down, and their host has basically said to flip off (Netherlands). There is interesting history about that site and the owner of it ;)

The registrar is eNum.com located in Redmond Wa. Listed contact is kelsie@enom.com

redspider

02-21-2006, 01:17 PM

my opinion is before someone can download any hack post by a coder they should first click install and add to a list that coder can check all members that install his hack .
and also a reasonable limit to hack download per day no one need to download 30 hacks in one day .
since they linking descriptions of the hacks to this site there have to be a way to block visitors from those url .