Anyone hacked by the Muslims yet?

[Corriewf]

Just wondering. I got hacked today with a message referring to the dutch cartoon.

[Nutz]

Its a Danish cartoon I beleave and many people have been hacked:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4692518.stm

Thanks,
Mat

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Just someone who think it is funny. I doubt this got anything to do with religion.

PS Those cartoons where danish like Nutzz said.

@All
Any sign of this thread turn into a political debat or get out of hand in any other way, and the thread will be deleted.

[Corriewf]

Ok I meant Danish, but I am not danish nor is my site's hosting facility..... Pretty weird...

[Lizard King]

Releasing those cartoons was totally disrespect to other peoples but attacking websites is way worse than that which is a crime nearly all of the world. I am wondering when people will just relax and try to solve their problems without attacking to anyone.

God bless i am a deist :)

[Daniel]

Releasing those cartoons was totally disrespect to other peoples but attacking websites is way worse than that which is a crime nearly all of the world. I am wondering when people will just relax and try to solve their problems without attacking to anyone.

God bless i am a deist :)
I wonder how many cartoon's they've released about the United States, Israel, the President, freedom... too many to count. Iran's best selling newspaper is also having a competition about the Holocaust and a cartoon drawing to make fun of it.

If you'd like to read up on that, you can find the article link below.
http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-02-07T182331Z_01_L07723729_RTRUKOC_0_US-RELIGION-CARTOONS-IRAN-HOLOCAUST.xml

[Corriewf]

I find it funny that they attack over a cartoon so old.....They just look for excuses just like many other groups....

[Lizard King]

I wonder how many cartoon's they've released about the United States, Israel, the President, freedom... too many to count. Iran's best selling newspaper is also having a competition about the Holocaust and a cartoon drawing to make fun of it.

If you'd like to read up on that, you can find the article link below.
http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-02-07T182331Z_01_L07723729_RTRUKOC_0_US-RELIGION-CARTOONS-IRAN-HOLOCAUST.xml

That is totally something else. Israel , USa or even Jesus are different. In islam muhammed's picture is forbidden to draw or shown in any place. Everybody can believe in different things but you must respect other persons faith and i also believe that cartoons were released just to provoke muslums. Check every source you have and there is no way you can find muhammed's picture in any where else.

But if you search Jesus you can find zillions of pictures of him because even Christians are putting his picture every where they can.

[Corriewf]

Its a BS excuse just like fat people want to be called big boned and Midgets are little people.... Everyone is complaining about something..... If everyone would stfu and mind their own business, this world would be a better place.

[Paul M]

I might believe they had a valid complaint, were it not for the fact that these cartoons seem to date from 5 months ago ...

.... condemned the publication of the cartoons in Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten on 30 September 2005

Why are they suddenly a problem now, and not last year. Just seems like an excuse for violence to me.

[Corriewf]

I might believe they had a valid complaint, were it not for the fact that these cartoons seem to date from 5 months ago ...



Why are they suddenly a problem now, and not last year. Just seems like an excuse for violence to me.

My point exactly.......

[AWS]

How did they get in?

[Corriewf]

How did they get in?


Although the host blames the older version of Vbulletin, I know it wasnt that. They must of cracked my password and ftped on in..... I have no idea really, but looking at how global this is ( ok ok mainly Danish sites ), it must not of been a Vb targeted attack... Oh well, if they wanna hack it again, have fun cause I will have it restored like now in 30 min or less......at any time.... :)

[AN-net]

I might believe they had a valid complaint, were it not for the fact that these cartoons seem to date from 5 months ago ...



Why are they suddenly a problem now, and not last year. Just seems like an excuse for violence to me.
that is because someone found them and republished them in Muslim newspapers. causing a firestorm. on top of that to defend freedom of the press, other europen articles/publications republished them as well. its people who do not know where to draw the line that is the problem and who have distaste.

[Corriewf]

that is because someone found them and republished them in Muslim newspapers. causing a firestorm. on top of that to defend freedom of the press, other europen articles/publications republished them as well. its people who do not know where to draw the line that is the problem and who have distaste.

No, your wrong. If life teaches anything, its that there will always be problems, its how you deal with them that make you who YOU are. You dont go looking for cartoons or hacking people's sites for payback. Just like I (we ) cant blame or attack every Muslim for this act against me and others... This achieves nothing but the spread of stupidity.

This will get merged but also check this out..... Why burn the American flag? Again, more proof of an excuse to act crazy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11282463/

[Daniel]

LOL, how did the Americans suddently get into this? I agree with Mr. Paul.

[Tony G]

Everything involves America!

[Brad]

Everything involves America!

Sadly this is true, everyone loves to hate us.

[Benedict]

Although the host blames the older version of Vbulletin, I know it wasnt that. They must of cracked my password and ftped on in..... I have no idea really, but looking at how global this is ( ok ok mainly Danish sites ), it must not of been a Vb targeted attack... Oh well, if they wanna hack it again, have fun cause I will have it restored like now in 30 min or less......at any time.... :)


Cool, what do you use to restore you DB so quickly?

[The Geek]

Sadly this is true, everyone loves to hate us.

Being an American living in another country, I can see why there is a certain level of animosity towards Americans in some situations that I didn't see before when I lived back home.

Still proud to be American, however I'm prouder to be an American with much more international awareness.

[AN-net]

No, your wrong. If life teaches anything, its that there will always be problems, its how you deal with them that make you who YOU are. You dont go looking for cartoons or hacking people's sites for payback. Just like I (we ) cant blame or attack every Muslim for this act against me and others... This achieves nothing but the spread of stupidity.

This will get merged but also check this out..... Why burn the American flag? Again, more proof of an excuse to act crazy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11282463/
lol w/e im not getting into fight with you

[jugo]

Cool, what do you use to restore you DB so quickly?


It's called a backup.

Very primitive but effective concept, created by a pigmy in the Sahara dessert. :rolleyes:

[KTBleeding]

Wouldn't it be funny if someone swooped in and created a comic about how ridiculous they are acting, and how over board they are going?

[Benedict]

It's called a backup.

Very primitive but effective concept, created by a pigmy in the Sahara dessert. :rolleyes:


Funny :rolleyes:

Do you just use phpmyadmin?

[S@NL - BlackBik]

Wouldn't it be funny if someone swooped in and created a comic about how ridiculous they are acting, and how over board they are going?

Has been done:

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/sc/2006/sc060206.gif

[Tigga]

that is because someone found them and republished them in Muslim newspapers. causing a firestorm.
Wait a second... Maybe I'm missing something since I haven't been keeping up with this, but if they're republishing them in Muslim newspapers, then aren't those newspapers breaking the same rule by re-publishing his picture?

[davidw]

I have had multiple hack attempts with a couple successful before I switched to vbulletin. They attacked me because I run a Christian web site. I ultimately had to block the whole country of UAE due of the multiple IP addresses. I've got a lot of IP addresses that were logged during the attacks along with their anti-Christian messages. But then again, this was going on well before any of these cartoons, so in a sense it would be more "fuel" for their "fire," if you will. I've had a lot of attempts since switching to vbulletin, but because of my host, none were succesful.

These things have been going for hundreds of years and will continue for many more years, getting worse as it goes. It's always darkest before the dawn.

[Guest210212002]

Funny :rolleyes:

Do you just use phpmyadmin?

Click the howtos in my sig, sir.

On the getting hacked note, both sites that I run that I've linked here and at vb.com have TONS of bruteforce root SSH attempts.

Just a friendly heads up, if you're using stock SSH setup (root, port 21, etc), it'd be a good idea to change them. I'm not inferring that the script kiddie came from here, just pointing out the coincidence. Changing the port to a high number and disallowing root SSH is one of the first things any server admin should do.

[AN-net]

Wait a second... Maybe I'm missing something since I haven't been keeping up with this, but if they're republishing them in Muslim newspapers, then aren't those newspapers breaking the same rule by re-publishing his picture?
someone republished them in a muslim periodical or someone distributed a periodical with the incriminating cartoons. either way the cartoons were originally published last year, so someone had to make them resurface.

[Tigga]

So... That basically proves my point then, right? According to them, it's wrong for anyone to publish the cartoon because it's an image of Muhamad, but it's ok for their own newspapers to republish them? Am I the only one that's seeing the irony/hypocracy in this, or am I just completely missing something?

[Lizard King]

someone republished them in a muslim periodical or someone distributed a periodical with the incriminating cartoons. either way the cartoons were originally published last year, so someone had to make them resurface.

No muslum newspaper or tv or any magazine ever published these cartoons. The cartoons were published first in Denmark and afterwards they were published by some european countries.

[davidw]

Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.

[The Geek]

Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.

Excellent post

[Corriewf]

Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.

I agree about stereo typing but this is not that case. Sadly most of the Muslims all over the world are seeking revenge and taking it. This is nothing like a small group od extremist christians in bum funk Alabama riding around with Confederate flags. Just about the whole Middle East is calling for blood and this time the Muslims in Africa are too. Thats not a small group or a stereotype.

[Lizard King]

I agree about stereo typing but this is not that case. Sadly most of the Muslims all over the world are seeking revenge and taking it. This is nothing like a small group od extremist christians in bum funk Alabama riding around with Confederate flags. Just about the whole Middle East is calling for blood and this time the Muslims in Africa are too. Thats not a small group or a stereotype.

That is totally bullshit. I am living in Turkey and except one 16 year old boy nobody is asking about revenge or nothing. People protests about this act since noone can except something like this but totally noone is asking about revenge. How come you can post a nonsense post like this.

[davidw]

This is nothing like a small group od extremist christians in bum funk Alabama riding around with Confederate flags.

...

Just about the whole Middle East is calling for blood and this time the Muslims in Africa are too.Need I say more about stereotyping?

[S@NL - BlackBik]

That is totally bullshit. I am living in Turkey and except one 16 year old boy nobody is asking about revenge or nothing. People protests about this act since noone can except something like this but totally noone is asking about revenge. How come you can post a nonsense post like this.

I agree.

Not every Muslim, even though he/she maybe offended by those cartoons, is shouting for revenge and Jihad.
I strongly believe the press is blowing things up outside proportions and that some goverments are taking advantage from that by encouraging protests. In Iran you can't protest without permission from the government. And it's like that in some other countries.

Turkey is a very moderate islamic country. There are also many Christian Turks living there. I've seen some beautiful churches in Istanbul ;)
Also here in Holland Isalmic people are shocked. But there has been some peacefull protests and no more. No burning of the Danish ambasade or stuff like that.

The other thing is a cultural difference. Why is it that those cartoons are so offending to them? Cartoons are mostly just a satirical view on things. In our Western society they are normal. And yes, some are offending but if someone feels offended they go see the judge and see what he thinks.
Not so in the Islamic world. And if we could understand why, we should be a lot closer to living together in peace.

[Corriewf]

That is totally bullshit. I am living in Turkey and except one 16 year old boy nobody is asking about revenge or nothing. People protests about this act since noone can except something like this but totally noone is asking about revenge. How come you can post a nonsense post like this.

You live in a pretty peacefull country compared to your neighbors..... ;)

[nitro]

You live in a pretty peacefull country compared to your neighbors..... ;)

Certainly does, death signs etc have been carried world wide almost for this, even now theres protests kicking around still and the subject is old news of old news. The funny thing is its more islamic tradition, (ie hadith, please forgive any spelling errors here), thats not even adhered to in a strict way by some of the countries that are protesting, as theres been many artistic depictions of mohammed over the centuries by muslims, some faceless, some complete.

It is quite funny and imo conincidental how large quantities of the right flag is suddenly available in all these countries just at the right time and hordes seem to have one to burn.

[Pcparts]

You have idiots everywhere, who just seek some attention. And any excuse to do something stupid.
Here you have a group of idiots on both sides.

Started with the cartoons to provoke the other group. Of course there are people who still want a non-violent resolution to this, but they are overshadowed by the violent group as always.

Such issues do get misused by some groups, specially by the press and many political parties and other such groups.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Here you have a group of idiots on both sides.
You are talking about governments and other semi-official groups?

[guvner]

Sadly most of the Muslims all over the world are seeking revenge and taking itMost of the Mulsims?? - perhaps a little perspective is required here?

Estimates are that there are +/- 1.2 billion Muslims in the world and +/- 2.1 billion Christians.

If we were to postulate that 0.01% (one hundredth of one percent) of all Muslims have extreme views, this would equate to a little over a 100,000 people.

Now, if we take all the images of protest and anger that have been broadcast via all media since the cartoon issue surfaced and attempt to quantify their numbers, how many people would we have seen? - 100, 1,000, 10,000 or maybe the whole 0.01% - who knows? What we do know is that 20 years ago this would have been a non event! Why? - because we'd most likey have gone about our daily lives blissfully unaware of these events.

But these days, every single incident gets blasted into our conciousness from waking up to bed time, and I sincerely believe that our awareness of issues such as this is more a result of the world's media and their hunger to "be first" or "the most informative" or the "most dramatic" than any real escalation in some perceived underlying problem. And if we see the same footage over and over, we might even be left with the impression that every member of Islam on the planet is up in arms!

I find it so frustrating and irritating when I see and hear people being "bagged and tagged" based on some kind of label, people are people regardless of which religion they practice and there are whackos in all of them, but the overwhelming majority of people are good and kind individuals, if that were not true our entire species would never have made it this far!

I'm truly sorry you were hacked, I can only imagine how you must have felt, but it was probably one person that did it, what percentage of Islam would he or she make up?

[Corriewf]

Most of the Mulsims?? - perhaps a little perspective is required here?

Estimates are that there are +/- 1.2 billion Muslims in the world and +/- 2.1 billion Christians.

If we were to postulate that 0.01% (one hundredth of one percent) of all Muslims have extreme views, this would equate to a little over a 100,000 people.

Now, if we take all the images of protest and anger that have been broadcast via all media since the cartoon issue surfaced and attempt to quantify their numbers, how many people would we have seen? - 100, 1,000, 10,000 or maybe the whole 0.01% - who knows? What we do know is that 20 years ago this would have been a non event! Why? - because we'd most likey have gone about our daily lives blissfully unaware of these events.

But these days, every single incident gets blasted into our conciousness from waking up to bed time, and I sincerely believe that our awareness of issues such as this is more a result of the world's media and their hunger to "be first" or "the most informative" or the "most dramatic" than any real escalation in some perceived underlying problem. And if we see the same footage over and over, we might even be left with the impression that every member of Islam on the planet is up in arms!

I find it so frustrating and irritating when I see and hear people being "bagged and tagged" based on some kind of label, people are people regardless of which religion they practice and there are whackos in all of them, but the overwhelming majority of people are good and kind individuals, if that were not true our entire species would never have made it this far!

I'm truly sorry you were hacked, I can only imagine how you must have felt, but it was probably one person that did it, what percentage of Islam would he or she make up?


I understand what you are saying and you are probably right about the use of the word "most", however it is fact that there are more Muslims wanting death to christians then vice versa. I know that for a large part a lot fo the middle east countries are full of people that hate us. Actually they REALLY hate Jews and since we support them..... Anyhow, I do not see as much hate coming from the christians.....

I know another personal experience of my own is that ouside the internet in "real" life I hardly ever have any problems with Muslims. With that said, its a different story on the internet. It seems that on the internet ( no face nothing to lose), I have been insulted and attacked in a large array of mediums.

In the end you are correct, we are all people and share the same emotion, however it is how it is expressed that matters... ;)

[Sean S]

Ok, something bothers me here - its been bothering since I first started reading this thread. Just as Christians get stereotyped for a few fanaticals here and there or because a couple/few did something that went against mainstream society, muslims are being treated the same way. There are many muslims I know who are just as nice, friendly, and well-minded as the rest of us, but it is the results of a few (individuals/groups of people) that is causing a stereotypical "WAR" here. Not all muslims are bad - on the contrary, most muslims are not bad people. The world has been "educated" in the sense that it is OK to stereotype groups of people if it goes against their belief system. People can deny this all they want, but it is true. I am a Christian and have been treated very poorly sometimes, because of what other people who claim to be Christian do. I get subbed into this category of "you're Christian then you are like him or her" and have been mocked, blamed, cursed at, etc. at the expense of a stereotype.

that had to be the most well thought out post in this thread, props to you bud. As for you "Corriewf ", I don't think that you have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Sadly it is people like you and the media that have made it look like that all/"most" muslims are at war and violence. Clearly, you haven't lived outside of whatever country you are from, and clearly, you have not experienced or bothered to learn about different cultures and religions. I could say that the "most" muslims that you are talking about don't even make up the 1/3 of the whole muslim population.

Getting back to the subject, all these stereotypes made the that Denmarkish publishing company, publish a picture of muhammad, which like stated by someone here before, it is forbidden to do in their religion, but that company didn't care cause they had the same stereotypical views about muslims.

I'm not saying that they are perfect, but nobody else is, and saying that most/all muslims are like that just angers me cause that is not even close to the fact.

It's just ridiculious how some of us suddenlly turn against a nationality or a religion because of false media coverages and false info that we are given, because of wars that get started between a small group and that small group becomes responsible for the death and suffering of many others. I've seen enough war in my life that it just saddens me how stupid the politics are and that why we as humans have to be or act like this. I don't wanna go into details cause it would turn this thread into a political thread, which would then result in the deletion of this post.

Corriewf please take into consideration that I'm not jumping at you, I just don't like the fact that you use all/most in your sentences.

peace.

[zamalekfanz]

That is totally something else. Israel , USa or even Jesus are different. In islam muhammed's picture is forbidden to draw or shown in any place. Everybody can believe in different things but you must respect other persons faith and i also believe that cartoons were released just to provoke muslums. Check every source you have and there is no way you can find muhammed's picture in any where else.

But if you search Jesus you can find zillions of pictures of him because even Christians are putting his picture every where they can.

Thank you for your understanding this truth. In Islam we believe that Mouhammad's picture is forbidden to draw or shown in any place.

[yahoooh]

i am musilm .

and what happen in DK in posting some cartoons that insult our faith is unacceptable
and when some people dale with this event by hacking also is unacceptable

so , the christians and muslims should not dale with this events like that all people of them are bad
this is not true

we should respect ourself and respect others whithout using un modern way in depate or discussion

if my brother or your brother do mistake ,that will not destroy the relationshipt between me and u
and we should say only stop the mistakes and do not include us in this situation

thanks

[Corriewf]

For the record, didnt really piss me off at all getting my site hacked...It really didnt bother me. To clarify, my opinions are based off of not living outside of the US nor and in depth knowledge of Muslim or even Christian faith... Everything I have said was personal opinion and in no way do I mean words to be used as factual information.

I would honesly rather find out my opinion is incorrect. :)

[The Geek]

Maybe it is no different than seeing all the religious right wingers come out in protest whenever a movie comes out in the US regarding topics they find offensive. Its always made me chuckle as it only serves to backfire on their cause by drawing publicity to the situation. In the end they have a choice: If you don't agree with the content, don't view it.

What I get confused about is that it maybe forbidden to draw the prophet, however is the person who did the drawing a Muslim? If not then I'm not sure where the problem really is. After all, Muslims have the power to refuse to read the paper, heck they can even protest by never buying it again - Whats next? Jews protesting hot dog manufacturers? We all have differences and one key cornerstone in any religion is tolerance towards those that do not share your views.

[Sean S]

Maybe it is no different than seeing all the religious right wingers come out in protest whenever a movie comes out in the US regarding topics they find offensive. Its always made me chuckle as it only serves to backfire on their cause by drawing publicity to the situation. In the end they have a choice: If you don't agree with the content, don't view it.

What I get confused about is that it maybe forbidden to draw the prophet, however is the person who did the drawing a Muslim? If not then I'm not sure where the problem really is. After all, Muslims have the power to refuse to read the paper, heck they can even protest by never buying it again - Whats next? Jews protesting hot dog manufacturers? We all have differences and one key cornerstone in any religion is tolerance towards those that do not share your views.

it doesn't matter if the guy drew it was a muslim or not, this is about respect for other's beliefs. Clearly that cartoon was a direct insult to their religion and their beliefs, it is forbidden to draw the prophet, no matter if you are a muslim or not, and if you look at the cartoon, it clearly links the prophet to terrorism, with the bomb placed on his head, that's even worst than an insult.

If that's the case, then Jews shouldn't get upset if Iran's president calls holocaust a myth, or others saying that Jesus was not God's begotten son. It is all beliefs that each person from each religion holds strong ties with. No one likes their beliefs to be made fun of or crushed, and saying to ignore such a thing is very selfish of you cause i'm sure if someone made fun of your beliefs, then you would have take some form of action.

the case here is about respect, not about rights. Every person has the right for free speach, but it's unfortunate that this had to be published to add more problems to the rest of the problems.

[The Geek]

You cant legislate or control respect any more than you can taste. Clearly the cartoon (which I haven't even seen) is in very bad taste. However if it suddenly becomes a crime to express a viewpoint if it is offencive to someone then no one will ever be able to express a viewpoint again as there is always someone that will be offended by it.

The holocaust is a totally different beast all together. Its like the US denying it ever dropped a bomb on Hiroshima. In that instance we are talking about recent history witnessed by countless still alive today versus religious beliefs. However on some level, you are right in the fact that if someone wants to claim it didn't happen... does it matter? That is their belief and their right to be lame. Its no one else's right to force them to believe something different.

As far as a Religious group expecting people that do not subscribe to their views to follow the rules of that religion is the same thing as people being expected not to kill cows because there are people out there that believe it to be religiously wrong.

I agree that the world would be a far better place if everyone would show respect for each others beliefs, however many religions do not even do that. The freedom of speech and of expression are inalienable human rights that can be as destroying as it can be enabling however in the end the world is a far better place when people are are empowered to express their viewpoints even if it may offend someone.

For what its worth, it sounds like a lame cartoon and I would be pretty freaking embarrassed and ashamed if I had anything to do with it.

[kittykattjess]

I wonder how many cartoon's they've released about the United States, Israel, the President, freedom... too many to count. Iran's best selling newspaper is also having a competition about the Holocaust and a cartoon drawing to make fun of it.

If you'd like to read up on that, you can find the article link below.
http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-02-07T182331Z_01_L07723729_RTRUKOC_0_US-RELIGION-CARTOONS-IRAN-HOLOCAUST.xml



So far i have not seen 1 (ONE) cartoon that the Muslim (Arabs)made of your president, Israel, USA, or freedom.. i would like to see one please.
2nd this is not toward a country.. this is toward someone beliefs.
Just because you don't believe in the prophet Muhammad, does not mean you (general you) can disrespect it.

How would you (general you) feel if they made fun of Jesus having sex with a 5 year old, I doubt it very much that you would sit and laugh about it!
I know that not all believe in Jesus anyway, but it could have been of something that you did believe in, "mother Teresa", God in general, someones mother, daughter, sister or family member.
To respect others religion even though you don't believe in them is something huge in my eyes.

I am not religious, I don't even believe in religion.

[smacklan]

I am not religious, I don't even believe in religion.
Then having an opinion on how religious peoples should or shouldn't react and have those that are give any weight to your opinion is strange. The bottom line on all of this is the moderate, peaceful muslims of the world (which most would say are the majority of Islam) need to stand up and reign in the idiot extremists or you all will bear the burden of being labled "violent". There is no excuse for the mayhem and violence that has erupted over this...just already pissed off, unhappy people looking for a reason to go ape.

[kittykattjess]

Then having an opinion on how religious peoples should or shouldn't react and have those that are give any weight to your opinion is strange. The bottom line on all of this is the moderate, peaceful muslims of the world (which most would say are the majority of Islam) need to stand up and reign in the idiot extremists or you all will bear the burden of being labled "violent". There is no excuse for the mayhem and violence that has erupted over this...just already pissed off, unhappy people looking for a reason to go ape.


Excuse me.. is that not "freedom of speech", I am not disrespecting anyone, only to respect others way of living.. I guess that was to hard to understand!!

[smacklan]

Excuse me.. is that not "freedom of speech", I am not disrespecting anyone, only to respect others way of living.. I guess that was to hard to understand!!
I'm sorry...I didn't mean to be offensive...it was a poor way of trying to say something else.