what hack is this ? << NamePro Click>>

[Stephen3]

http://www.webdesigntalk.net/npclicks.php

what the hack is this? which let member click the link to earn credit.

http://www.webdesigntalk.net/npvisitors.php

This hack also , plese tell if know ! thankssssssss

[Zachery]

http://www.webdesigntalk.net/npclicks.php

what the hack is this? which let member click the link to earn credit.

http://www.webdesigntalk.net/npvisitors.php

This hack also , plese tell if know ! thankssssssss

I'd have to guess custom. :) not all websites use premade hacks. Chances are its theres and you won't ever be able to get it.

[Lea Verou]

I'd have to guess custom. :) not all websites use premade hacks. Chances are its theres and you won't ever be able to get it.

This sucks. I can't understand admins who don't share their hacks :mad:
I don't personally need this but it makes me mad to hear about admins who don't share :mad: I can understand it if somebody doesn't want to share a style, I don't share my styles too as they are a thing that defines a forum's character but I find it disgusting that they don't want to share hacks, especially in non-profit sites :mad: :mad: :mad:
I can't understand it. I just can't.

[Stephen3]

can some body clone the hack? :surprised:

[romow]

i don't understand why you don't understand it. you think styles can define a forum, but hacks do not? what the.... i can think of so many ways to make my forum unique by using custom hacks.
the hack is their own intellectual property. they have every right to keep it to themselves, or sell it for fee. i do not find it disgusting at all.

This sucks. I can't understand admins who don't share their hacks :mad:
I don't personally need this but it makes me mad to hear about admins who don't share :mad: I can understand it if somebody doesn't want to share a style, I don't share my styles too as they are a thing that defines a forum's character but I find it disgusting that they don't want to share hacks, especially in non-profit sites :mad: :mad: :mad:
I can't understand it. I just can't.

[Lea Verou]

Of course they have every right to keep it but I still find it disgusting if they use hacks from here and they don't release theirs.
If you don't release a style probably you don't also use one from here (that's my case, I've never given a style to the community but didn't use one from here either).
If they don't use hacks from here that's fine, but I think they suck when they only install other people's hacks and don't give their hacks.

[romow]

i completely disagree with your logic.

you said since you don't release a style, you don't use one from here.
but you technically "can" if you want to. so it does not make you any less disgusting.

"they suck because they install other people's hacks but don't give theirs."
if i ever used any open-source program, do i have to release all my precious custom codes in return? i respect those people who release their code voluntarily. but I do NOT blame those folks who do not. open your eyes to the real world.

Of course they have every right to keep it but I still find it disgusting if they use hacks from here and they don't release theirs.
If you don't release a style probably you don't also use one from here (that's my case, I've never given a style to the community but didn't use one from here either).
If they don't use hacks from here that's fine, but I think they suck when they only install other people's hacks and don't give their hacks.

[Lea Verou]

i completely disagree with your logic.

you said since you don't release a style, you don't use one from here.
but you technically "can" if you want to. so it does not make you any less disgusting.

"they suck because they install other people's hacks but don't give theirs."
if i ever used any open-source program, do i have to release all my precious custom codes in return? i respect those people who release their code voluntarily. but I do NOT blame those folks who do not. open your eyes to the real world.

Have you ever heard of the word "morality"?
Probably not.

And it doesn't matter if I technically can use a style from here. What does matter is that I don't.
"Technically" I can also go and kill somebody. According to your logic I should go to jail.

[romow]

again, if i ever used 10-line of open-source code, do i have to release my 1000-line of custom code to fulfill the "morality" spirit? i don't think so.
(i do not mean to downgrade all the free vb hacks out there)

you can also blame the vb author for selling it for fee even when they have been using other free bulletin boards for one way or another. :D

[Lea Verou]

again, if i ever used 10-line of open-source code, do i have to release my 1000-line of custom code to fulfill the "morality" spirit? i don't think so.
(i do not mean to downgrade all the free vb hacks out there)

you can also blame the vb author for selling it for fee even when they have been using other free bulletin boards for one way or another. :D

If you feel that the "morality" spirit is an obligation then don't release your code. Most people release hacks because they like to help people, not because they feel they have to. I just consider people like you selfish and disgusting (assuming that you don't release your hacks but use other's hacks). That's just my personal opinion, why do you care about it so much?
Oh and by the way, there are free hacks with 1000+ lines of code. ;)
You can't teach a person to be moral, they have to feel like it.
Just imagine if every bulletin board owner thought the same way as you do.
Afterwards, imagine if every bulletin board owner thought the same way as I do.
Which would be better? ;)

(damn, I wish I could answer in greek. There so much things I would like to say but can't due to language knowledge limitations :()

[romow]

hehe.. i respect that. you don't have to speak greek as i understand mostly what you are trying to get at. :D btw, i'm in no way affiliated with them. i just feel it's not fair to blame them that way when their forum is so business-oriented. they are not like chit-chat forums where people just come to socialize. serious business is being done everyday there, and they compete with others. there's no reason for them to release the mod to allow competitors an easy way to catch up.

anyway, apparently you are one of mod authors here at the forum, and i understand your sentiment. keep up the spirit. cheers,

[Lea Verou]

I am not talking about bussiness oriented forums but forums that someone has as a hobby. Btw if you don't want a competitor to install your hack then just put a copyright notice in it with a link to your forum and don't allow them to remove it ;) Who would directly link to their competitor? ;) :p And if, strangely enough they do, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. ;)
You know, I used to think like them and I had many arguments with opensource fanatics. And when I started making hacks I thought sometimes "hey, why release this and have dozens of other forums to have it? Why not making my forum unique with it?". It's human. But then I thought that if everybody did that then I wouldn't have all these nice hacks that are released around here, many from much better coders than I am. And also, it's nice to know you made somebody's forum a little better. It's really nice and rewarding to hear things like "awsome hack! My members will love it!".
Why not try to make the world a better place, even a little bit? ;)

[Paul M]

It's entirely up to an author whether they release their own hacks, no matter how many they may download from here. I really don't care if someone downloads every hack I have released here and doesn't ever release anything of their own. It would be very stupid of me to release stuff, and then complain that people actually use it.

[Lea Verou]

Certainly Paul. But would you have a good opinion for someone like that?

[kpr]

Namepros isnt a hobby forum i would say it is RJ's bussiness so why should he release what he has had custom codded so it goes elswhere when its bussiness

[Lea Verou]

Namepros isnt a hobby forum i would say it is RJ's bussiness so why should he release what he has had custom codded so it goes elswhere when its bussiness

Ok then. I didn't pay much attention to the forum, I just wanted to say how I feel about what I stated, as I've seen it maaaany times in greek forums and they are not bussiness forums... :(
I think there are only 2 greek coders here, me and the one that released the AWS. That's not because the other greeks don't know how to code, it's because they haven't learned to share :(

[Stephen3]

it's fine... argue is useless if namepro don't want to be share the hack,
I've a pay to click script if someone would like to integrade to vbulletin or create a similar hack I can send for them :)

[Lyte]

We should always respect people's time, effort and desire to be paid/compensated for both. Conversely, people should have the right to retain ownership (not share) without having their morals being called into question. :(

Lyte

[Paul M]

Certainly Paul. But would you have a good opinion for someone like that?Yes I would (or do), it's entirely up to them, and I'm not going to think any less of someone who doesn't want to share some code. I choose to share some hacks here, but I certainly don't share all my hacks - Cable Forum runs more hacks than are released here, some of them will never be released either.

[Lea Verou]

Ok then it's me. Sorry, I can't change how I see these people...
(I'm not talking about people who release less than the ones they make or people that share their hacks for money. I am talking about those who write many hacks and don't release anything at all.)
And Paul, you might say you wouldn't mind but if someone came and said "I'm not stupid to share my hacks! What would I benefit from something like that?" wouldn't you be mad at them? It's like calling you and the other coders stupid!

[Chris M]

It's best not to get mad at anyone for doing anything regarding coding - People create their own hacks and never contribute to this site - People create their own hacks and always contribute to this site - Some do half and half, 60:40, 70:30, 80:20 etc etc etc etc

Just accept it as people wanting their own work remaining unique to them and move on ;)

Chris

[Lea Verou]

Well I can't help it if they regard me stupid for sharing my work! Or "malaka" as it's called in greece :p
These people make me mad... sorry...

[Stephen3]

Two, I'm not comfortable with someone asking to clone someone else抯 property!?
If it's not yours and you've not been given permission to "borrow" it, then
anything else is stealing.?

Lyte

I've to say something here... the pay to click script are not the "property" of the namepros, so if you said i'm stealing namepro "property" I'm totally disagree with you because they're the people who "stealing" people property.
I even own a stronger script which have more funtion than namepro, I'm just need someone can make it integrade it. and THAT IS NOT NAMEPRO SCRIPT !